hero69 wrote:
You would be singing a completely different tune if you lost your job, had a family to support and couldn't find a job!

hero69 wrote:
Yes, Germany does have a higher unemployment rate but you don't have the obscene poverty that you have in the US.

Also, an I point out that the employment rate in the US is not so fantastic relative to other rich countries.


Denmark : 4.8%
Netherlands : 4.7%
Sweden : 7.8%
UK : 4.7%
Austria : 5.2%
Finland : 8.4%
Ireland : 4.3%
Portugal : 7.6%
Germany : 9.5%
Spain : 9.2%
France : 9.7%
Belgium : 8.4%
Greece : 9.8%
Italy : 7.7%
Hungary : 7.2%
Poland : 17.7%
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Turkey : 10.3%
USA : 5.1% (in 2004)
Japan : 4.4% (in 2004)
Sources : Eurostat


Net-net, it does not seem that high tax rates and social benefits is a necessarily bad

hero69 wrote:
McCain also said that the oil companies might need to give something back. Is that socialist-leaning too?

elvis wrote:
So did you take your talking points from Fox News or Bill O'Rielly's website? Without looking it up, could you even tell me what a socialist is?

hero69 wrote:
THe German SPD likes Obama too.

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Br6dR wrote:
I think you should have to submit your fingerprints when you apply for a driver's license. I'm also for collecting a DNA sample from everyone commits a felony. What could it possibly hurt? My finger prints are on file. So far the bad people haven't hauled me off to a Big Brother mind control compound.

This issue is something David Koresh would have been paranoid about.

Ok, so let me try this without personal attacks and being totally 100% serious in my line of questioning.

Fingerprints from my perspective are similar to other "personal information" that I want to protect at all costs such as my SSN. Besides the fact that I just find it an invasion of privacy, dont you have any concern at all that either government or private industry will misuse or mishandle the data that they have collected? I mean, how frequently do you read about lost, stolen, or illegally accessed files of personal info...I'd prefer not to add my fingerprints to that scenario.

Also, I find it hard to buy that fingerprints are the way to stop financial crimes. Arent most of these crimes able to be tracked or uncovered through means like phone records, email chains, account numbers and transfers, and IP addresses? I cant see fingerprinting doing much at all to protect anyone.

Br6dR wrote:
I think you should have to submit your fingerprints when you apply for a driver's license. I'm also for collecting a DNA sample from everyone commits a felony. What could it possibly hurt? My finger prints are on file. So far the bad people haven't hauled me off to a Big Brother mind control compound.

This issue is something David Koresh would have been paranoid about.

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So if someone came to your place of work and said "Hey, I know you didnt commit any crime, but we need to take your fingerprints and store them...you know, just in case" You dont find that to be one bit of an anti-American way of doing things? Just because a bipartisan group approves this, or approved something similar in the past for the financial industry does not make it right.

P.S. - "friggin" is pretty much a curse from my perspective...it isnt something Id use in a business or professional environment, so thats how I classify it. You dont have to agree.

Wow, you really nailed me.

So it's OK to call someone David Koresh? Is that better than the word Friggin'?

You respond to one part of my post and don't realize the hypocrisy of your own post. Par for the course. Keep fighting for Ron Paul brother! I think he's really got a chance this year!

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Oh look, I made a new friend. I'm glad you find it acceptable to curse and call me names, but its not acceptable for me to voice an opinion that goes against the popular opinion on a popular candidate.

Anyway, this is not about Dems vs. Republicans. Its about Obama. He is supporting it, and I'm simply voicing my opinion that he quite frequently supports things that I find very un-American. If that makes you want to call me names, then good for you. My anti-Obama sentiment does not automatically imply that I support the Republicans either, which seems to be a common misconception.

Curse/names? Which word was that - "idiot"? Ok, because i thought it was you who compared to Obama to David Koresh - or was that someone else with the very descriptive moniker of "anonymous"? Do you find it acceptable to refer to a potential president as the leader of a doomsday cult? Right, I've read a ton of your posts and you like to shade the facts so they suit your needs. Got it. But lets respond to the rest of your post shall we?

Un-American, now please tell me, what does that mean? Does that mean approving warrantless wiretaps of Americans? Or does that mean water boarding them?

There happens to be a ton of rampant fraud in the mortgage industry, so what exactly is your objection to having a database of fingerprints for people who work in that industry? What is unamerican about protecting people who want to achieve the...what's that phrase.... oh yes, the "American Dream"?

The reason you're an "idiot" (which apparently is a curse word, i wasn't aware) is because you post links to the conservative Heritage Foundation as if it were a respectable publication that we ought to listen to. It's a blog post from a writer on that website and it doesn't list any of the other 18 people on that bipartisan committee who supported the measure. Who were the 2 people who voted AGAINST the measure?

Sorry if you don't like being challenged but when you post ad hominem attacks on people with no factual backing, someone needs to take issue with that.

So sorry that offends you. Please accept my most humble apology!

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More Anti-American ideas from Obama.

He is now behind an effort to create a national finger print registry.

http://blog.heritage.org/2008/06/09/o ... nal-fingerprint-registry/

This guy seriously scares me, I dont understand how he has the following that he does...but I guess the same could have been said about David Koresh.

Anonymous - you scare me - you're friggin idiot. David Koresh? What the F are you talking about?

This is a bi-partisan committee (1/2 dem, 1/2 repub, if you don't know what that means) that voted 19-2 to pass a measure that fingerprints people who work in the mortgage origination industry. This is already present in any number of industries such as the securities industry.

Ron Paul is a bit like a cult, wouldn't you say? Oh no, of course not, what was i thinking...

designknob wrote:
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Atsushi wrote:
Okay, so do bad guys break into just about any cars? Or do they choose more expensive cars? I drive a Honda civic, and I just don't see how anyone can benefit from breaking into my car. Should I still be concerned? Or unless I have a more expensive car, I won't have to worry about it? Since it's an old and cheap car, I'm not afraid of the cost to fix it. But I just hate to have the inconvenience.

But removing a fuse sounds like a great idea. Does anyone else do that?

Atsushi

Just look around the neighborhood and take note of what cars are the most "modified" etc. I see an awful LOT of Honda Civics. They are A-Cheap, B-Easy to get parts, C-easy to "ghetto mod"

injcsince81 wrote:
This whole election thing is very surreal.

The lines have been very clearly drawn - old vs young, white vs black (for some), conservative vs liberal (ugh, progressive), war vs peace (really?).

It will make for a great reality TV in Nov - the problem is that the US (and the world) is hanging in the balance.

My heart says go with Obama, my mind says go with McCain.

Not that it matters - Obama will take NJ, anyway.

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johnnytit wrote:
and, REALLY, that's all mcbush has on obama...and it scares the living crap out of them.

you are really a clueless dolt if you think bush and mccain have anything in common. but of course you probably rely on the mainstream media for your coverage so you don't know any better.

johnnytit wrote:
like we can get any worse, after having georgie and his boys run the country after 8 years...

and mcbush has a great economic plan up his sleeve???

puleez.

SalOnTheHill wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
I cant believe that people are going to be dumb enough to vote for a 91 yr old candidate. I have no issue with an older person in office...but 91 yrs old? Come on...are these the same democrats telling me that a 71 yr old John McCain is too old?

Yeah, because the job of President/Commander-in-chief is the same thing as that of a Senator. Riiiiiiight.

And yes, get your facts right. I'm not a huge fan of his, but Lautenberg is not 91 years old, nor is he the one whose finger is on the button.

Plenty of Senators, for good or for ill, have served well past Lautenberg's age. By contrast, John McCain, if elected, would be the oldest person to ever be elected to the presidency.

Br6dR wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
That cover should read:

"America's next economic disaster"

Which is what you would have been saying about Clinton in 92.

Br6dR wrote:
Your Democratic Candidate for President of the United States of America

GrovePath wrote:
Primary elections in Hudson County today

Tuesday, June 03, 2008

Voters today will choose candidates for the county Board of Chosen Freeholders and for Congress in today's primary election. The East Newark Borough Council is also on the ballot.

The polls are open until 8 p.m.

Here are the candidates:

FREEHOLDER

District 1-Democrats: David Longenhagen, Doreen DiDomenico, Mary Jane Desmond

District 2-Democrat: William O'Dea

District 3-Democrats: Ronnie Meadows, Jeffrey Dublin, Arnold Williams

District 4-Democrats: Sean Connors, Sonia Araujo, Eliu Rivera

District 5-Democrats: Ines Garcia Keim, Frank Raia, Anthony Romano

District 6-Democrat: Tilo Rivas

District 7-Democrat: Jose Munoz

District 8-Democrat: Thomas Liggio; Republican: Michael Bartulovich

District 9-Democrats: Albert Cifelli; Republicans: Jacob Hahn

EAST NEWARK AT-LARGE COUNCIL

(Two seats)

Democrats: Hans Peter Lucas, Jeanne Zincavage

U.S. SENATE

Democrats: Frank Lautenberg, Robert Andrews, Donald Cresitello; Republicans: Joseph Pennacchio,Murray Sabrin, Dick Zimmer

U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

9TH DISTRICT

Democrat: Steven Rothman; Republican: Vincent Micco

10TH DISTRICT

Democrat: Donald Payne

13TH DISTRICT

Democrat: Albio Sires; Republican: Joseph Turula

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dontstealmyrocks wrote:
Hey, maybe he'll make the oil companies pay?

...but taxing the gas companies on making profits is NOT the answer either.

Hell, why not nationalize them?

This way ALL their profits will go to the American people...

dontstealmyrocks wrote:
Hey, maybe he'll make the oil companies pay?

TheVillage wrote:
Has anyone noticed the Red BJ's shopping carts left around downtown Jersey City. They seem to pop up every few days on one corner, move to another street, after a few more days they move to yet another corner.

Anyone know where they are coming from, who is using them, what they are used for? I saw one again this morning on second street.

Just wondering?

SalOnTheHill wrote:
If McCain going to refrain from bringing up his military lineage? Hardly.