owlie wrote:
Sigh... just what we need is yet another Bar. How about something we don't have...like a real Mediterranean Restaurant ...

Yvonne wrote:
How do the people from Greenville or the Heights get to use that public space when there is no parking? It is basically for people are are close by.

tommyc_37 wrote:

Anybody else annoyed by the opaque glass guard which prevents you from seeing ANYTHING behind?

bodhipooh wrote:

Closed / OOB: Carrino Provisions / Osteria / Bell & Gray, Lee Sim's, Thirty Acres, Powerhouse Lounge / 6th Boro Lounge, Sushi Tango, Box, Nu Bar, Azucar, The Kitchen.

Greenvillechick wrote:
apparantly DownTown is its own city of Jersey City - GAG

https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-brook ... y-state-125773642747.html

JadedJC wrote:
Anybody know what's up with these guys? I walked there twice this weekend, on both Saturday and Sunday, hoping to get some ice cream and they were closed on both days. Odd for an ice cream place to be closed on a hot weekend in August.

jcgurl wrote:
I remember the bodega. It didn't have garden seating. That's the difference. "Maybe get your facts straight before ranting."

jcgurl wrote:
I'm trying hard not to get too drawn into this but it seems like some of the commenters don't understand the concept of zoning. Areas that are zoned as "residential" prohibit businesses from opening up there. This helps protect the character of a neighborhood and protects property values. Without zoning, a car repair shop could open next to my brownstone and leave broken down cars all over the place.

In all honesty, there are now a LOT of places to grab a great burger. Like, a ton (Dullboy included, by the way - their double-patty is OUTSTANDING).

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The market has always ended in December, so I don't think that's anything strange.

Thanks for clarifying most of my questions, but I think you misunderstand (or perhaps purposefully obfuscate) the statement.

The fact that it's past December should have no relevance to a food truck operating somewhere in the vicinity. The taco cart, for example. was a phenomenal addition to the area and one I miss more than most, especially late nights. They were not part of any market, yet no longer seem to be in that area.

Clearly that is due to the sporadic nonsense about being 300 feet away from a restaurant or get hit with some enormous ticket.

Sad face... you JCListers are too cynical! I wasn't trying to obfuscate - I just misunderstood/read to fast. So it is two things driving the fact that you are seeing fewer food trucks: 1) markets were part of the reasons you saw food trucks (they were legal there under markets) and they end in December and 2) food trucks were illegally parked there during non-market hours and they are probably being enforced due to business owners calling in complaints.

That is why I say that the root of the problem here is that the legislation surrounding food trucks overall is no good and needs to be overhauled. Thriving brick and mortar is not mutually exclusive to food trucks. We should obviously be encouraging food innovation. Solutions for food trucks is something that is 100% being worked on.

Candice, I really appreciate the insight you have provided to this thread and I'm sure many others do too. And I'm heartened by your recognizance of the need for reform and your work on solutions.

Thanks for doing what you do!

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The market has always ended in December, so I don't think that's anything strange.

Thanks for clarifying most of my questions, but I think you misunderstand (or perhaps purposefully obfuscate) the statement.

The fact that it's past December should have no relevance to a food truck operating somewhere in the vicinity. The taco cart, for example. was a phenomenal addition to the area and one I miss more than most, especially late nights. They were not part of any market, yet no longer seem to be in that area.

Clearly that is due to the sporadic nonsense about being 300 feet away from a restaurant or get hit with some enormous ticket.

I think Candice addressed your issue at the end of her post talking about the 300 foot rule. That law was recently put on the books (within the past 2 years). It must be the basis for the huge tickets.

How did it get there? Well, I wouldn't know for sure, but given the Two Boots owner's "outspoken" stance on the issue, it seems pretty logical to me that he was instrumental in lobbying for the 300 foot ban. Also, since it seems the 300 foot rule has only recently been enforced (leading to the total absence of food trucks from the plaza), I would think that Two Boots and the other listed owners are behind this recent enforcement as well.

After all, the same arguments they use to justify the ban of "prepared food" from the Farmers Market are equally applicable to the times when the market is not in session. Finally, given Two Boots posts, it would stand to reason that he would oppose reform of the law that he likely helped implement.

If I'm wrong about any of this I'd love for him to correct me.