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Re: WHY ARE CYCLISTS BEING ALLOWED TO RIDE THOUGH NEWARK AVE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA??
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I have read as many as I have seen and all of the ones that get forwarded to me. That is exactly why I have rarely posted anything on these forums. All the posts are single-minded and you never see any resolve. Ever. Ban this ban that, it just gets ridiculous.

There has to be balance for things to work.

I have had a few instances over the years but zero on sidewalks because I make sure not to travel quickly (in many cases not even pedaling but pushing along) and I always give the pedestrians the right of way. So, I am an asshat to you despite many of those years being spent keeping my son safe as he learned to ride a bike in a city.

I think most people don't understand the fact that they are living in what will soon be the most populated city in New Jersey. This isn't the suburbs and it definitely isn't Hoboken.

I have been doored several times and have had a few people jump out from between cars. It is never pleasant and despite them jumping out from between a car I feel horrible since I am 285lbs and the majority of the time ride a very heavy bike. They usually pay harder than I.

BTW riding across the Brooklyn Bridge is always nuts during the day. Everyone walking looks at you like you are doing something wrong. When I first moved to Hoboken I used to love riding up to the George Washington Bridge, ride up through the hills in Harlem and then ride down to the PATH or later the ferry at the WTC.

Be safe.

Posted on: 2015/7/13 16:39
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Re: WHY ARE CYCLISTS BEING ALLOWED TO RIDE THOUGH NEWARK AVE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA??
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It should be REALLY interesting to see what happens when the first hipster douche gets shoved off the sidewalk and get his plaid shirt ripped, his ironic t-shirt soiled and/or his beard messy.


This is a little violent don't you think? Should cyclists run-over pedestrians not in the painted cross-walks? If someone crosses a street where there is a light and they decide to cross because they think they can make it, they are free game in your theory because they are not following the rules.

Again, there are sections of JC that it is impossible to share the road (safely) with traffic and occasionally cyclists need to jump up on a sidewalk. If someone does this at full speed they are simply not a good person. Hopefully they will have consequences for their actions.

I think as part of a society it is better to understand that sometimes things can't been done exactly as they are expected to. Which is why we should all be aware of those around us and treat each other with respect.

I have been on and off these forums for years and usually choose not to ever post because it is rare to see a discussion handled with level heads and understanding. I chose to post here because, as someone who has been riding a bike through the streets of Hudson County for 27 years, I thought I might be able to add some perspective. Unfortunately, as with every topic on these forums, it seems to be a, "Me vs. You or Us vs. Them," attitude that always prevails. Very sad.

Posted on: 2015/7/13 15:28
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Re: WHY ARE CYCLISTS BEING ALLOWED TO RIDE THOUGH NEWARK AVE PEDESTRIAN PLAZA??
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I have been riding down Newark through Grove Street for nine years it is odd to suddenly prohibit it to cyclist, cars, buses, etc. I have lived in Hudson County since 1988 and have been in JC for almost 11 of those years. I have seen many changes for good and bad in those 27 years. Despite the fact that the plaza makes no sense what-so-ever and has no actual purpose it exists for some reason to someone. To call it a pedestrian plaza is strange considering all of the other types of traffic I witness in there from children to adults. Every morning the car traffic at the corner of Newark and Barrow has become quite amusing as cars pull over to let people out to walk through the, "new city green paint grass" park. The cars do this and block other vehicles as they try to make their way across to Eirie. Pretty sure there will be an accident, fight or a pedestrian or cyclist hit. Oddly that is part of living in a city. Simply painting a street green and blocking traffic doesn't make it for pedestrians only or for that matter fair to other local businesses who don't benefit (or suffer) from this newly defined area. There are a few spots throughout Jersey City (some of which I assume many on these forums have never been) where it is impossible to ride in the street with traffic. So in these cases we carefully ride on sidewalks and then enter the roadway as soon as it is possible. Because we are adults. This is completely in line with State and local laws. BTW look out for the teens they ride crazy and fast... as teens should do.

Posted on: 2015/7/12 22:48
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