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Montgomery Gardens
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Any update with Montgomery Gardens?

Does anyone know where the majority of the tenants relocated to? I read there are still a few living there but did the rest stay in JC or move to another city? Did they get vouchers to move to a certain neighborhood or housing?

Just curious.

Posted on: 2013/8/7 2:51
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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How did you know the deal on that property was 2009? The tenants are just talking about it now. I don't think they knew.

They should think about the PATH train now, not later. Or make more Water Taxi's now or create a bridge where people can walk, bike, drive, take public transportation.

Posted on: 2013/7/27 3:27
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Thanks for the video laughs. I bet it probably will look like that in 2020. I think it's sick. I wouldn't want to live like that.

As I mentioned before if you read my first post - I'm not against the development my concern was for the working class people that are being forced out. I'm wondering where are they supposed to live. Does that mean they have to live in the ghetto? What's wrong with being concerned about my (nice and hard working) neighbors.

And yes I did make that post for the TT because I wouldn't want to be clustered in the new building holding over 1800 people situated on top of a train station. Do you realize that you wouldn't even have to leave the building to go inside the PATH? Personally, not my cup of tea. I'm sure it will be a matter of time when they want to knock down my building to continue developing in this area. With that in mind I don't see anything wrong with planning to live someplace nice like TT. It seems more professional than other places I've seen.

By the way, one doesn't get years notice, one has to get approved for the new development and who knows if it will be official or not. Look what happened at the lot by the fountain in JSQ. Those people were pushed out not paid out. They shut the water on them and did a bunch of things to get them out of there faster and now the land is empty.

9/11 did change things. Don't be in denial.


Posted on: 2013/7/25 2:39
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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"If you're a renter, do you honestly believe the mere presence of these towers is going to drive rents around JSQ up so dramatically that you'll be forced to move? That, to me, seems extremely unlikely. Sure, in a best case scenario, JSQ gets completely turned around and, inevitably, rents rise. But we're talking about a slow progression over years or a decade."

Yes, I believe that the rents will drive up dramatically. There is a lot of planned construction in the area.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 0:25
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Like I said, I'm for developing the area, but it gets ridiculous sometimes that hard working people need to leave. (I'm not talking about ghetto minded crackheads. I know these things happen but it probably doesn't happen to people like you. I'm just saying, if you lost your house or apartment or even your job - that affects you and where you will have to relocate. Then it would bother you.

I guess you think you are exempt. This can happen to anyone. You should count your blessings.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 23:41
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Can Pavonia/Newport accommodate 10 cars?
What about Christopher St, 9th St, 14th street and 23rd street? I don't think so. I currently count 7 or 8 cars max.

If one is to develop for improvements, we should not have to deal with certain doors not opening. That was before 9/11. The catastrophic events of 9/11 changed everything. I don't know how many people will feel comfortable with doors not opening (I'm not). What if there's an emergency and we have to get out the train? Those issues should be addressed as they have development in mind, since this is why people are moving closer to the trains. All exit doors should open.


Posted on: 2013/7/23 22:48
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Well, PATH isn't MTA. It's not that fast. Even if they were to add more cars, the doors won't be able to open (they will still be inside the tunnel without access to a platform). You'd have to walk through the cars to get out at a platform - and you know how no one wants to move or those who leave their backpacks on.

Think Christopher St, when you're at the last car. You have a thin ledge by the wall as you try to leave or enter. OR you would have to be in the middle cars (to avoid the cars where the doors won't open) and it's already packed as it is.

That will affect Grove street. The train might pass right by and not even stop with announcements telling you there's another train right behind that one as you grow hot and impatient.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 22:07
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Well, lets say you were living in area that was decent and stable and close to transportation for many years with no intent on leaving. Now someone (an owner, the city, someone that makes decisions over your head) tells you that you have to leave (for whatever reason).

It wouldn't bother you that you have to leave the conveniences of being next to work, transportation supermarket, etc so that someone else can enjoy it while you have to go searching for another place to live that's out of your market range? It's not so much the new people, but the fact that you got to pick up and leave and can't even stay in the proximity of the neighborhood so they can have those privileges.

Honestly.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 21:58
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Yup. McLaughlin said no thanks. They wanted their parking lot too and they said no.


I don't think the PATH is prepared.

People will move here for the PATH and be stressed out that they can't even line up for the train. They will have to let a train or even two pass by before they can get on an actual train, for like, the 33rd Street train. It will defeat the whole purpose of why to live there. Almost makes you want to live in NYC where there is more affordable middle income housing - the thing is - it takes years to be on a list and the New Yorker's get first dibs.


Posted on: 2013/7/23 21:24
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Yes KRE bought the block, except for McLaughlin Funeral Home, but he bought the ("JW's Welcomed") Parking lot to the left, the 2 or 3 doctor's office with vinyl siding, the empty Verizon parking lot, the 5 story residential building, the brick building to the left of that (had lawyers, doctors, a Marine Architectural firm) and bought the parking lot that belonged to the really old house on the corner of Summit Ave.

@ Steve - The Slumlord made out like a fat rat I'm sure. He sold out so he's not "poor".

Posted on: 2013/7/23 20:30
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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@MDM - The building I am talking about that will be demolished is a 5 story building with 30 apartments. It's a nice looking building with character and quality materials. It's actually sad to see something pretty gone.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 20:13
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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That is true, but where are the hardworking middle class people that have lived there for years supposed to go? Especially if they were here before the newcomers. That's my question.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 20:09
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Thanks.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 20:04
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Where is this Italian Village Section? What street?

It is going to be built. I saw some guys out in the parking lot discussing the plans and a truck emptying the old doctor offices near McLaughlin funeral home.

@ JC Progress -Are you planning to move into the new residences? Is that why you can't wait?

Posted on: 2013/7/23 19:57
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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No, this is 3 towers. One tower will be 50' high, another 60' and the other 70'. It will be a total of about 1,840 units - something like that. The developer is KRE.

See the image here: http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... -change-the-neighborhood/

This is supposed to be the tallest building in JC. It's called J2 (Journal Squared).

You might be thinking of the one by the fountain that has been an empty lot for years. That's a different developer.

Posted on: 2013/7/23 19:45
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Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Hi,

The Journal Squared project at Journal Square from Pavonia Ave to Summit Avenue is about to begin.

I have mixed feelings: At one end, I enjoy some of the nice newer developments in the JC area. Because of them, I get to enjoy nearby restaurants, shops, parks, and just a nicer area than the current JSQ area, which is still clustered and dingy. At the other end, some nicer residential towers that are currently up and running demand rents that I, honestly, cannot afford.

This brings me to the residents about to be displaced. Where are middle income tenants like that suppose to go if they cannot afford to live in a nice building? They are being pushed out so others can enjoy the proximity to the trains leaving the current residents to find something (near transportation) with rent that is $2600+/a month or they would have to move out of JC.

Maybe it's just me but I feel there is no middle ground. It's either a place you can't afford in the luxury towers or a residence that is worse than where one currently is.

With that said, is there a place for middle income residents in JC that's decent?


Posted on: 2013/7/23 19:28
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Re: Trump Plaza - Jersey City
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Hello,

I know this thread was years ago, but what are your thoughts now of the Trump Tower in JC?

Is it worth purchasing there for a new home buyer?

Did that area flood during Sandy?

Are those of you who purchased there still content?

Thanks,

Posted on: 2013/7/23 18:01
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