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Re: Fulop Rips Healy on Video
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Again. Im not bill m

I am however someone who sees the bs behind the scenes. I find it shameful that the fulop campaign accuses everyone of bring crooked, dirty, etc. Meanwhile, look at the inner workings of their campaign, filled with people who have done worse.

Id have more respect for his campaign if he came with a team that was impeccable in terms of their history in jc. Then everyone could fight on the issues. But they r not, so the issues stay in the background.

We know who healys team is...who is fulops team

Posted on: 2013/3/8 16:10
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Re: Fulop Rips Healy on Video
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I love how jclisters accuse healy of criminality. Do you realize that fulop bought many of the votes that got him his first win in 2005. Open your mind. Come on steve, you can address the accusation.

But you won't. .....your whole team if full of crooks. Lets get to the truth

Posted on: 2013/3/8 9:54
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Re: Dan is still Dan
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Steve didn't mention how in 2007. Or 8 william cortez, a campaign worker for fulops team, gave information related to voter fraud involving the 2005 election. While no one was charged in that plot that I know of, the remainder of the information he gave was confirned to be connected to a major identity theft ring run by eastern europeans out of nyc, and nj.

Woukd have added intrigue fir the commercial

Posted on: 2013/2/27 11:53
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Re: Jersey City election 2013: Mayor Bloomberg endorses Mayor Healy
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Bloomberg does have jc roots, his mom graduated from dickinson hs.

Posted on: 2013/2/22 14:39
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Re: corporate takeover of jc youtube video
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I am surne the fulop chronies were instructed to not comment on the video, but as a voter who is voting for fulop, does it make you think?

Posted on: 2013/2/22 14:19
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Re: Jersey City election 2013: Mayor Bloomberg endorses Mayor Healy
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Blomberg is an established success. Say what you will, whether he has any business endorsing is another question, but the same can be said for carpenters who live out of town.


Posted on: 2013/2/22 14:00
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corporate takeover of jc youtube video
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What a great video. It is well prepared, besides sound, and seems to have a lot of evidence that looks bad. Is this who you want as mayor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1sRhq84EA

Posted on: 2013/2/22 13:44
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Re: The Healy years: Nov 2004-today in hard numbers
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You say the average persons taxes doubled,, but back it up at least.

Posted on: 2013/2/18 13:33
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Re: We seek a unified Jersey City, not a divided one
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I wS born and raised here and still reside here. I am not from monmouth county, or east brunswick. My family is still here. I lve how I made it a point not to attack, just to point out what I believe to be valid issues and you all begin to attack.

Many of you have no idea what really goes on in the city, many of you cannot identify with a regular jersey city resident. You have your opinions and want to force them down the throats of jc residents.

Maybe you dont realiize that your candidate can't deliver what he promises. Maybe you dont care that the same things you hate in the current admin will continue with a new one. Watch the youtube video on the corporate takeover of jc

Posted on: 2013/2/18 12:55
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Re: The Healy years: Nov 2004-today in hard numbers
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Ok so let me guess

The following issues are the administrations fault too

World hunger
Gas prices
The recesstion
Food prices

Sometimes of of you live in a dreamland. You act as if jc is the only place that has had taxes rise over the years. Show me where a home in a large city hasnt had the taxes rise in 9 years. Thats right. 9 years. Its roughly a 4000 increase, averaged over nine years is only about 500 a year. That is not so bad actually

Posted on: 2013/2/18 12:40
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Re: We seek a unified Jersey City, not a divided one
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Truth be told...downtowners want to turn all of jc into newport. They do not want to tolerate low to middle class peiple and their neigjborhoods. That is why people wanted to secede. They feel as if low to middle class neighborhoods devalue their lives.

Jersey city has long been a melting pot. Long before downtowners drank the newport kool aid. If fulop wins our schools will become for profit institutions for out of town investors, we will have wal mart which will crush small business. We will lose the identity of a city where people of all classes could survive. Look at the elec reports, its clear that fulops team is poised for a corporate takeover. Sad

Posted on: 2013/2/17 19:36
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Re: We seek a unified Jersey City, not a divided one
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Quote:

user1111 wrote:
Quote:

Lima17 wrote:
What would it take for DTJC to secede?

A Fulop supporter? or just an idiot?


Idiot is not nice. But its really the way many of his supporters feel. They want to push the people who made jc OUT.

Posted on: 2013/2/17 18:40
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Re: We seek a unified Jersey City, not a divided one
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Quote:

Lima17 wrote:
What would it take for DTJC to secede?


Exactly what I am talking about

Posted on: 2013/2/17 18:28
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Re: We seek a unified Jersey City, not a divided one
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Ms osbourne

I dont know anything about you or your politics. As a jc resident my entire life, I do see your point about having a unified city.

If you were from jc, you would realize that jc has always been a unified place. The different neighborhoods could always relate to each other because one thingunified us, jc...exit 15e . Etc.

Th downtown began to change, a different type of person began to show up. There is nothing wrong with different, but early newporters wanted to have their own zip codes, their own police, even to secede from jc. It was ridiculous.

Fast forward to today, we are in the midst of an election tht is very important to our city's future. One side is the current mayor, winner of two previous elections and champion of joey jersey city. He brings 8 years of experience as mayor to the table. He brings documented information, crime stats, jobs, etc with him. Many fulop people may dispute the numbers, but thats for the voters to decide.

The fulop slate, in my opinion, is full of people who frown on jc for what it has been over decades and want to change it for their own benefit. Besides a turkey giveaway, or toy drive, when and where has the fulop ticket been in terms of wards a, b, c, d, and f. IMO, the divide comes in because the average person on the city feels this is an election about class, as opposed to who the better candidate is. Ifbyou speak to the average person on kennedy blvd, or westside ave, all they know is that healy is running against the guy from downtown.

Is it ignorant, sure, is it misinfomed, sure, but it is what it is. The divide is not coming from the healy camp, they are defending the rest of the city from the corporate takeover of jersey city.

If the situation w dr lyles and chris cerf is any indicator, fulop is nothing more than a wolf in sheeps clothing. He is doing the same thing he is preaching against. Look at fairview insurance.

Posted on: 2013/2/17 18:25
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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I am not a jc cop. I am involved in law but on the legal side. Not a lawyer. U cancall me a troll but call me correct. This grand plan is never happening.

Im sure the person who drew it up thinks it will work, of course they would. Any politician will say what's necessary to make you think they are new, different and effective. Does anyone realize that fulops team is a recycled group from when hefirst came out. If he showed up with a new crew and said this is my team to run the pd, id maybe see it differently, but he is not. He is recycling guys from years past, some of which you same people mocked when you heard some of tueir antics during elections past

?as for police first class, its not recognized by civil service, therefore there is no test. It would be politically appointed, but will never happen. It would have to be added to the collective bbargaining contract, in which one is already in effect for a few more years I believe. Things like that cannot be forced down a unions throat. It also adds more to the pension responsibility of the taxpayer in the longrun because any increase in base is pensionable.

So then you will have two politically appointed positions. Good job, just more room for nepotism.

Posted on: 2013/2/15 16:54
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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Of course you yawn. You are blinded by your own ignorance

Posted on: 2013/2/15 15:21
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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Can someone from the fulop team tell me how I am wrong about the impossibility of their plan being implementerd

Posted on: 2013/2/15 15:00
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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I do agree with going out of town for upper management to a point. It wlould be great to bring in a person with successful big inner city experience.

I say the same thing, the non civil service classes, class 2 guys will never happen. He makes it seem like he wants to make the pd merit based, however, it will never happen.

When you look at this plan, doesnt anyone realize that its impossible, and probably written by a guy who has been out of policing for almost 15 years.

Dan, any comment on what you think is needed? Will healy come out with a plan?

Posted on: 2013/2/15 14:13
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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It seems like no one will address the issue that this plan cannot be implemented while you all defend this plan as the change jc needs. Did any of you realize as wel that the community policing aspect has unsuccessfully been implemented under other failed administrations. I do not expect many of you to know that since most of you on this board did not live in jc until the past few years.

Id love to know what type of crime will be lessened with this plan. It doss not address attempting to enhance the prosecutions of cases. It doesnt address anything about putting criminals in jail. That is the only way you will truly be safe.

The fulop proposal is impossible to implement and I have not seen anyone with an explanation on that. Its like me saying, hey I am going to stop world hunger, I can't do it but it sure sounds good, will you vote for me?


Posted on: 2013/2/15 13:50
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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But its only words on paper. It cannot be implemented. How do you feel thay you are being fed a plan that is not real. Is all lies, just like when he won in 2005, but we know what happened with that.

Posted on: 2013/2/15 12:53
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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Sure you can supplement beat cops with the cars on the street.
I would like to see the pd at least give those beat guys some mobility like segways or something of that nature which keeps them with the people but mobile in an emergency

I still say and since this threadwill be here for years to come, it will be proven that this so called planwis just not feasable. Its never going tohappen. I know the people on this board are intelligent, cant anyone see through all of this?

Posted on: 2013/2/15 5:44
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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No, I am not a cop. Iam however connected to the jcpd through many people and have been around jc all my life. When I say changes are not needed, what I mean is that the overall mission statement is what it should be. The test to become an officer in jc is only open tojc residents. Everyone knows about it and applications are available all over.

I do agree that the the appointed higher ups should live in the city. Ithink that someone who lives here their whole career and makes it up the ranks should be rewarded. I dont agree with someone moving back to take the job or living in south jersey. I do however like this chief.
Everything can be improved. Maybe community policing would work in ward e.it will not work in any other ward.

I did not post to argue that, I just argued that the policy that so many of you are gawking at is not goingto happen even if fulop wins in a landslide. The ideas presented in it are literally a joke

Posted on: 2013/2/15 5:15
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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It is not about status quo. Jersey City is being pitched an anti-crime platform that cannot and will not be instituted because most of it legally cannot.

Most people do not know what goes into stopping real crime. Community policing is not it. Because the streets are physically free of drug dealers, does that mean that it is not going on. You would be surprised that the biggest drug dealers caught are not the ones on the corner of MLK or Ocean, many of them live in high rises and in homes right next door to many of us. How about a crime plan that focuses on getting rid of the problem through utilizing the skills of the police and a partnership with prosecutors, state and federal that will get rid of criminal through vigorous prosecutions rather than patting them on the back and saying, hey buddy this is our neighborhood, kindly move along and take your red bandana with you.

I am not saying that anyone should be content with the current level of crime. Of course, we all want the crime numbers to be big zero's, but everyone is afraid to be aggressive in that pursuit.

Whatever side you take, just realize that the plan presented by the Fulop side will never be instituted, it cannot be. So when it is not, what the plan then?

Changes are not needed within the JCPD. It is one of the top notch departments in the state if not the country. It is full cops making arrests every day. We are all for making it better, but BS ranks and adding half cops to the force, is that going to improve it, or ruin it - oh by the way, those things will nEVER happen

Posted on: 2013/2/15 4:51
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Re: Steve Fulop candidate for Jersey City Mayor announces anti-crime plan
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Seriously. Please read this crime plan. Anyone with half a brain who knows about the area and is not a transplant from another world will know that not only is this plan not practical, it is impossible to implement.

First of all, community policing IS one way to address crime. When utilized properly, it will make the public feel better about their area. Will it reduce crime? No. Will it move crime, sure. Where does crime go? Do any of you know?

Crime will move indoors, or to other areas of the city. That will make it legally harder for law enforcement to take care of business. If it is your block the criminal element moves out of, great, but what about the others that now will deal with it?
What about trying to eradicate crime? Anyone who has an unbiased eye will know that the JCPD is doing an excellent job. Name one major incident that has not been solved? The JJ is not a good indicator of what is going on. It is anti administration, so anything good the PD does will not be highlighted.

Obviously Fulop's plan is to satisfy his Ward E people with buzzwords and the feeling that things will change. It will not happen.


Police First Class Rank? never happen, will not be recognized by civil service, therefore will not be anything more than a position given as a political favor, nothing different than the current system. in JCPD there is only one rank that can be truly determined to be a favor, the rest of it is through civil service testing. In addition, you would have union opposition on it, it would have to be collectively bargained and since JCPD is in a contract for a while, cannot be added for years.

Class 2 specials? Hoboken had 40 people come out for the job, and 2 stayed. Tons of oppostion from the union with having scabs on the street - plus is it really safe? It opens the city up to tons of liability. NEVER HAPPEN
Also, the training for class 2 police officers is NOT the same as regular police officer, if it was, they would not be CLASS 2


Removing police personnel from administrative jobs? There are a few jobs that can be staffed by civilians - agreed, however there are many that should be staffed by police. It becomes a safety issue when civilians are answering emergency calls and dispatching calls...have you ever called the ones we have now? sounds terrible, but if you put cops in that position, it will work better. Is it fiscally the best thing? no, but when your house is getting broken into, i bet you would rather have the right person on the other line when you need them


District Line audit is nothing but trying to skew the numbers.

Also, who from the police department will be tasked to do all of this implementation? What do we know about them?


I welcome anyone to challenge me on any of these issues

Posted on: 2013/2/15 3:21
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