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Re: Stop the Planning Board from making Peter Mocco's Liberty Harbor North into skyscraperville
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Brewster, you are looking for logic and fairness and what is right for the city. You will not find it here. As I have said before, there is so much wrong with this, you don't know where to start. The planning office, is now in name only! They are the least progressive people in the city and they have no fight in them at all! If they are prepared to throw this plan in the garbage, we are all in trouble.

Posted on: 2012/8/28 13:03
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Re: Stop the Planning Board from making Peter Mocco's Liberty Harbor North into skyscraperville
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"This is the finest example of architecture and planning Jersey City has ever seen," city planning director Bob Cotter said Tuesday. "This is going to be one hell of a development project." October 31, 2003, Hudson Reporter


Today's Jersey Journal, City Planner Bob Cotter, who has endorsed the changes, echoed Mocco?s statement, saying the plan ?is the essence of New Urbanism,? an urban-design movement that stresses walkable environments, public spaces and diverse neighborhoods.

There is so much wrong with Cotter's statement, you have to believe it was written by city hall for him to say. First, you still have the so called "squat buildings", just now you put towers on top of them. Hadn't this guy looked at the plan? It?s a 13 story base with massive towers on top of them. The original plan called for modest density and a Central Park West feel. This is not that at all! The original plan had density similar to Hoboken's tallest buildings. Maybe someone should tell Mr. Mocco and Mr. Cotter that the highest rents and sale prices come out of Hoboken, where you can barely find a building over 12 stories. And by the way, Central Park West building being built today, are 22 stories, not 55 stories. Don't these guys to their homework!!

Second, this will not be a diverse neighborhood. The planning office didn't put affordable housing into it!!none! Nada! It may look diverse, but there is nothing diverse about it. And the park space is for the residents, not Downtown, the folks who will feel the brunt of this folly with traffic backed up from Newark Ave, down Jersey Ave, to create solid grid lock for everyone. Even if you don't own a car, you will feel it with traffic and car fumes.

And third, why no public meeting with the community groups that surround this project, Van Vorst Park, Paulus Hook , including Morris Canal and the hospital with 1200 employees on Jersey Ave, not to mention the Board of Ed. Is it true this amendment is three years old and is now being rushed to the city council for a vote. Three years and still no planning board hearing! Hey, bob, everything changed in the last three years, including Mocco filing for bankruptcy this spring. He has demonstrated he can't do the low rise buildings without filing for bankruptcy, what makes you think he can build 55 stories.



So what happened Bob to "one hell of a development project". You blew up Liberty Harbor North, the same way you blew up the Powerhouse Arts district. This amendment is a vastly different plan from the award winning Duany plan that the community supported and played a pivotal role in getting approved.


I watched this plan take shape and I applauded the planning board and Mr. Mocco for bring Mr. Duany up to Jersey City to work with the community to create something unique and special for our city. Now it looks like another "bait and switch" by the planning office and developer. Two planning board members who voted for this now look like prophets: Jeff kaplowitz, the chairman, who expressed reservations about Mr. Mocco and Councilwoman, Mary Donnelly, Dave Donnelly's mom. She expressed reservation about now affordable housing.

Both have been proven right.



Density is great for a city if it done correct. These buildings have no green requirements. NONE!!!!!!! It?s a recommendation! And will all know how developers follow recommendations! The community and city get nothing from this density.This plan requires the developer to do nothing sustainable! This is a gift, pure and simple. But for the developer, its" one hell of a plan". Right, Bob!



Read more:Hudson Reporter - New town in town City approves phase I of 4 8 billion Liberty Harbor North plan







1) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... iberty-Harbor-North-plan?



2) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... ent-on-brink-of-approval?



3) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... ey-were-kept-in-the-dark?



4) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... aterfront-s-big-projects?



So what happened Bob to "one hell of a development project". You blew up Liberty Harbor North, the same way you blew up the Powerhouse Arts district.



I watched this plan take shape and I applauded the planning board and Mr. Mocco for bring Mr. Duany up to Jersey City to work with the community to create something unique and special for our city. Now it looks like another "bait and switch" by the planning office and developer. Two planning board members who voted for this now look like prophets: Jeff kaplowitz, the chairman, who expressed reservations about Mr. Mocco and Councilwoman, Mary Donnelly, Dave Donnelly's mom. She expressed reservation about now affordable housing.

Both have been proven right.



Densification is great for a city if it done correct. These buildings have no green requirements. NONE!!!!!!! The community and city get nothing from this density. I would have more respect for the Planning Office if they followed the lead of Battery Park City and mandated green buildings and infrastructure. This plan requires the developer to do nothing sustainable! This is a gift, pure and simple. But for the developer, its" one hell of a plan". Right, Bob!



Read more:Hudson Reporter - New town in town City approves phase I of 4 8 billion Liberty Harbor North plan







1) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... iberty-Harbor-North-plan?



2) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... ent-on-brink-of-approval?



3) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... ey-were-kept-in-the-dark?



4) http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... aterfront-s-big-projects?

Posted on: 2012/8/28 12:57
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Re: Stop the Planning Board from making Peter Mocco's Liberty Harbor North into skyscraperville
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I couldn't agree more with paulushooker.This is a failure of our planning board and planning leadership. It's a disgrace that they would throw this plan out, for an ill conceived skyscraper deal. It's truly a disgrace!

Posted on: 2012/8/21 12:17
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