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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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StevenFulop-

Ordinarily, I would applaud you for taking the time to respond to the concerns of residents. But this response is so lacking in honesty that it's appalling. Moreover, the fact that you pile on to name-calling in attempt to subvert the truth is equally non-mayoral.

Let's skip over your efforts to paint yourself as a victim for people confronting you with verifiable proof, despite the fact that you ran around for last three years trying to elevate yourself, not on your record, but by calling Healy a criminal.

First, if you are going to comment on something, know that there IS a record of what was said in the press and you can't plead blissful ignorance while calling others trolls for pointing these things out. If you would have bothered to look at the Jersey City Independent article attached about Sacco attending your fundraiser, you would notice that the article was dated October 31, 2011. Is that more than a year from today? No. That's an outright lie. Moreover, you were quoted as saying you had a "good relationship" with Sacco. You don't get to now revise history and say that "it's a stretch to say that I have had ANY relationship with him". ANOTHER LIE. Nice attempt to explain away your epic hypocrisy. Guess you don't want to be too close now that he is being investigated.

Next, no support for Dave Donnelly? Didn't Fairview Insurance give him $2,500 on 10/13/10? The same Fairview Insurance that has supported you with thousands of dollars over the years and the one that just received a large insurance contract from the Board of Education that you now control? Mere coincidence, I am sure and I am a troll for pointing this out.

You want to criticize the Hudson Reporter for a "BS article"? Is that the way handle addressing media that questions your actions? Not very professional. Contrary to your point of view, reporters have a right to ask questions. You chose not to comment on the record and now you attack the reporter. That's cowardly.

Your campaign IS NOT extremely cautious about fundraising and proactive in returning money. As had been pointed out earlier. Review the posts above, you have Dale Hardman of "No Gas Pipeline" literally working on your campaign and who attempted to explain away your acceptance of $20,000+ in money from the attorneys for Spectra Energy from as far back as October of 2011. You didn't return their money until July of 2012 after an article came out from the same Hudson Reporter that you now slam. Coincidence, of course, it must have been in the pipeline of things to do after the election.

The same can be said of Impact PAC and Impact JC LLC, when you broke the law you championed and violated Redeveloper Pay-to-Play. It wasn't until June 2, 2010, the same date that an article came out in the Jersey Journal addressing the issue, that your campaign decided to return the contribution as reported in your 7/13/10 ELEC report.

I guess these got by the "vetting of your group of volunteer good-government activists" as you state in "Fact 3".

Finally, appreciate the parsing of words and efforts to prevaricate as to the law firm referenced in the story. Scarinci Hollenbeck has been there for 10 years, but the firm you should be addressing is FLORIO PERRUCCI. You know, the ones who didn't have a contract with the Board of Education until you took control of the school board and after they started raising money for you.

To anyone who pays attention, you have shown exactly what you would do if you would become mayor, despite your phony representations to the contrary. You don't believe that patronage in the form of giving contracts to your donors is corrupt. You have shown that in just a few months at the helm of the BOE. You just like to brand it that way because it isn't YOUR patronage.

Thank you for allowing anyone who pays attention to get a glimpse at the real Steven Fulop.

Posted on: 2012/9/19 0:09

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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T-Bird wrote:
Steve didnt campaign for Esther nor for any other reason than she is very conservative (tea party rallies, etc).

He wasn't involved with the election for Donnelly.

You would be hard pressed to get anyone in the political machine to say that Bill O'Dea is an HCDO stalwart. He has run independent off the line more often over his career than anyone.

Last and most importantly, the Reporter article entirely lacks facts. So no, it doesn't appear Steve lied.

I guess we are resorting to buffet-style denials to the information where there may be deniability, while ignoring the rest and hoping it goes away.

You address O'Dea and the HCDO, but don't touch the Sacco issue with a 10-ft. pole? I guess it's pretty hard to deny the Sacco stuff since Steve went out of his way to acknowledge him at a fundraising event and make sure that his appearance got publicity in the news.

As for your "last and most importantly".....that is the weakest effort at discrediting a reporter that I have ever seen. The writer cites direct sources and approached Fulop and his pal Ramon for their comments.

Ramon Rivera issued a "no comment" to what should be a very easy thing to deny, if he didn't solicit money on his behalf. No comment is legalese for I better not be on the record because if someone produces documentation or is questioned under oath...people may find out that I did solicit money for Steve Fulop.

Posted on: 2012/9/18 3:00

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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HeightsBrat says

"there is a difference in playing the game & being gracious & being in bed with"

Is that what "Open and Transparent" government is to you, to Fulop.....a game?

That's sure the way it seems when you attack others for having more than one governmental job because they endorse your opponent, while months earlier, you boast of support from a notorious North Hudson boss who has three public jobs. That's called being a hypocrite.

But judging by your level of discourse, I'd say you are too far gone to be honest with yourself that the only genuine qualification that Fulop has is that he may or may not drink alcohol. It sure as hell isn't honesty.

Perhaps if we go back to the Prohibition Era, then that would mean something.

Posted on: 2012/9/17 4:02

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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Rorschach wrote:
At the end of the day I think this election will hinge on whether the HCDO fully supports Healy or if stays out of the race. Fulop seems to have some real issues in the African-American community. If the HCDO and the black community back Healy it will be difficult for Fulop to win.

Look at the bright side, he went to great pains to compliment North Bergen's Mayor/Deputy Superintendant of Schools/State Senator at a fundrasing event in October of 2011.

"But Fulop was the star of the evening, starting his six-minute speech by acknowledging Sacco, whose presence raised some eyebrows since Fulop?s political guru Tom Bertoli and Sacco are longtime political rivals. After the event, Fulop, responding to questions via email, said that he and Sacco have a ?good relationship? and was happy that Sacco came to his fundraiser."

Guess he had no problem with the triple-dipping and the ever-present allegations of bossism in North Bergen when it worked to his advantage. That's his brand of reform.

http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... r-players-and-supporters/

Posted on: 2012/9/17 1:45

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/fu ... ey_city_story_left_column

Posted on: 2012/9/16 17:34

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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T-Bird wrote:
The truly surprising thing about all of this is you actually get paid to do this, because you aren't very good at it. "Nothing infuriates me more than fake sincerity." Well, Josh - clearly I'm not all that concerned about what infuriates you.

But tell me - in all of your digging into ELEC forms, where exactly is it that I - or any of Fulop's 450+ volunteers - show up on the payroll? Hack? C'mon - I hope you can do better than that. There's got to be more substance to this than just clever tweets, right?

And there is....all you have left. No more principle, no more rectitude of the cause, no attempt at a defense, nor acceptance of the fact that maybe he shouldn't try to sneak excessive contributions from disgraced former politicians.

You would earn some respect if you acknowledged that latter, but alas, all you are left with is ad hominem attacks at a person you think is responsible for exposing the truth about Steve Fulop's real ambition to win at all costs.

Posted on: 2012/9/10 1:56

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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T-Bird wrote:
What's the point in answering. You know the answers to the questions you ask - the point for you is in the asking. You know Fulop returned the excessive contributions you cited earlier - the return is in the same ELEC filing as the contribution. So yeah - funny game.

It must be fun to do this for a living (from your website):

At White Horse Strategies, we bring something different to the table ? a fresh, knowledgeable, strategic approach to political strategy and communications. We?ll solidify your positives, define your opposition and frame the debate. We?ll also help you deal with all types ? from long-time political insiders to newly-minted netroots outsiders. Most importantly, we know how to motivate and move both voters and public opinion.

http://www.whitehorsestrategies.com/about

So, to be clear, you are acknowledging that Fulop received $5,000 from Senator Torricelli. At some point later found out that it was a contribution that exceeded the legal individual contribution limit of $2,600 and returned $2,400.

What you are also saying is that only a White Horse Strategist can look up publicly available information about NJ ELEC contribution limits and what interested parties contribute to Steve Fulop?

I think that is insulting to the average voter.

It doesn't take a paid consultant to tell you that if you are candidate claiming to be all about good government and the reform of politics as usual, that you shouldn't take $5,000 or $2,600 from former politicians whose career very publicly ended due to ethical sanctions while serving in the Senate.

Apparently, Steve Fulop wants it both ways. That's the epitome of hypocrisy and nothing infuriates me more than fake sincerity.

Obviously, you think it's okay because you work for him.

You are no better than the partisan hacks you throw stones at on the other side.

Posted on: 2012/9/10 1:39

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JCFree

Re: Incumbent As Underdog

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Of course that is what is taken away from the article. Not the fact that Fulop was claiming that endorsements don't matter publicly, but behind the scenes he was apparently courting Jeff Dublin, Sean Connors, and Mark Smith.

He wanted their support, but now that they have chosen to back Healy, he slams them as "pension padders" and that "the only endorsement that matters is that of the Jersey City residents".

Remember, it's not what Fulop says, it's what he thinks he can keep from the public eye.

Posted on: 2012/9/10 0:48

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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T-Bird wrote:
Ah, but the man himself said he would return it. Has he? There is a higher standard that most people hold their elected officials to than waiting for the feds to come with a warrant or a subpeona. Dan Levin gave a speech on the steps of city hall at the time saying that exact same thing. But I'm sure you got comfortable with that model some time ago.

You started this thread by asking if Fulop was in Charlotte. That was answered. From what I hear, your boss and Matsikudis sat down there staring at each other, so I'm not exactly sure what the point of his trip was. As I said before - I doubt anyone at the convention who matters from outside the state of NJ knows who he is.

If you would like to start another thread about all of the many positive reasons to vote for Fulop, please do so. As one of several hundred people who volunteer for him, I'm happy to participate in that conversation. I'm sure others would join me. But then again, despite your claims, that's not really what you are looking for, is it?

Actually, I took the time to review the allegation which went from $20K to $50K according to T-Bone......now $17K per this thread and can tell you that Healy has donated exactly $16,580 to date since he made the promise to donate the money.

That calculation was only counting churches, non-political civic organizations, youth athletics, etc.

Posting it in this thread too....so that you don't think I ignored your allegations. Now perhaps you or Steve Fulop can start answering some questions?

Posted on: 2012/9/10 0:43

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JCFree

Re: Won't keep $17G tied to Dwek, Healy says

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T-Bird wrote:
Ah yes - here it is. I knew I wasn't imagining things. Does anyone know if there is paperwork that shows this money was ever returned? It doesn't show up in ELEC.

Posted on: 2012/9/10 0:39

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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dtjcview wrote:
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JCFree wrote:
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I had specifics which have yet to be refuted in any way, shape, or form.

I don't know, maybe Healy went down to Charlotte to support the Democratic President of the United States. Maybe that was point.

Whereas, I guess Fulop had more pressing things to do like sure up the Hudson County Teenage Republican vote from Demetrius Terry and figuring out how to accept more Spectra money, violate Pay-to-Play, or secure more money from disgraced former politicians.

All you posted was some supposed facts that you then used to infer and insinuate some kind of violations of ethics on the part of Fulop.

If we're sticking to the facts, Healy has been arrested and convicted, Fulop hasn't.

You can eliminate the word "supposed" if you just did the minimal amount of work to look here. I have cited the report dates, so not too hard.

http://www.elec.state.nj.us/ELECReport/StandardSearch.aspx

Posted on: 2012/9/9 14:15

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JCFree

Incumbent As Underdog

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Excerpt

-Last week the Healy campaign announced the support of five Hudson County elected officials who have endorsed his campaign, including Bayonne Mayor and Hudson County Democratic Organization Chairman Mark Smith; State Assemblyman Sean Connors (33rd Dist.-Jersey City); Assemblyman Jason O?Donnell (31st Dist. -Bayonne); Hudson County Executive Thomas DeGise; and Jersey City?s Democratic Chairman, Jeff Dublin.

Some of the endorsements are notable because they came from officials Fulop either helped in the past ? like Dublin ? or people he reportedly tried to cultivate for his own campaign. Several sources last week said Fulop placed a testy phone call to Smith after his endorsement of Healy was made public. Fulop had hoped that Smith would either endorse him or stay neutral in the Jersey City race for mayor.-

Read more: Hudson Reporter - The incumbent as underdog He?s been down but Mayor Healy and supporters say don?t count him out

http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/fu ... ey_city_story_left_column

Posted on: 2012/9/9 14:11

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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T-Bird wrote:
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JCFree wrote:
I am sure that if any money was improperly withheld that the appropriate authorities will make that request.

Ah, but the man himself said he would return it. Has he? There is a higher standard that most people hold their elected officials to than waiting for the feds to come with a warrant or a subpeona. Dan Levin gave a speech on the steps of city hall at the time saying that exact same thing. But I'm sure you got comfortable with that model some time ago.

You started this thread by asking if Fulop was in Charlotte. That was answered. From what I hear, your boss and Matsikudis sat down there staring at each other, so I'm not exactly sure what the point of his trip was. As I said before - I doubt anyone at the convention who matters from outside the state of NJ knows who he is.

If you would like to start another thread about all of the many positive reasons to vote for Fulop, please do so. As one of several hundred people who volunteer for him, I'm happy to participate in that conversation. I'm sure others would join me. But then again, despite your claims, that's not really what you are looking for, is it?

You haven't presented anything with respect to the contributions and whether they were returned or not. Things like who made the contribution, the amount, etc. Just stating another fact.

I had specifics which have yet to be refuted in any way, shape, or form.

I don't know, maybe Healy went down to Charlotte to support the Democratic President of the United States. Maybe that was point.

Whereas, I guess Fulop had more pressing things to do like sure up the Hudson County Teenage Republican vote from Demetrius Terry and figuring out how to accept more Spectra money, violate Pay-to-Play, or secure more money from disgraced former politicians.

Posted on: 2012/9/8 16:54

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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Seems like we are stuck in a world where I have to work for Healy, so the ethical lapses of a guy who guy who tauts transparency and good government can remain unanswered.

Honestly, I can't follow what you are claiming. I am sure that if any money was improperly withheld that the appropriate authorities will make that request.

How does that absolve Fulop from his unrefuted transgressions? Is the point that you think Fulop should make character his central qualification publicly, then do whatever it takes behind the scenes to win?

Then, I guess it comes down to whether the devil you know is better than the one you don't know.

Posted on: 2012/9/8 15:52

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JCFree

Re: Another Fulop Paid Hack

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mrrogers wrote:
Just in case any body was wondering who this new troll is just
Google white horse strategy
This is the firm running Healys election.
They have grown but they started out as just Internet bloggers.
When you google them you will see they are connected to the PR firm of message and media. Same firm who ran Healysvlast election in 2009.

It would be amusing if it wasn't sad that Steve Fulop's supporters are more consumed with name calling and attempts at guessing my identity on a message board, where they too are anonymous, rather than being able to discredit any of the information presented. That tells you all you need to know about the truth of the facts presented.

Just deal with the substance of what is being discussed within the rules of jc list or ignore me, lest you have no interest in things like free speech, good government, and transparency.

Good thing Hitler is dead, otherwise that would be the next logical guess to discern my identity.

Posted on: 2012/9/8 5:10

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JCFree

Another Fulop Paid Hack

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Mouse wrote:
The choice is simple:

Either continue with the inept, money grubbing, do nothing, corruption loving current administration.

Or, try something new. Easy, isn't it?

Some of us are not happy about the culture of corruption that has flourished under Healy. JCFREE, are you REALLY trying defend this? LOL, what a joke.

?Leona Beldini, 74, of Jersey City, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right (Deputy Mayor of Jersey City)

? Joseph Cardwell, 68, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with agreeing to offer bribe to public official (Longtime political consultant and a commissioner of the Jersey City Municipal Utilities Authority)

? Joseph Castagna, 53, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right (Health Officer with the Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services)

? Guy Catrillo, 54, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with attempted extortion under color of official right (Recent Jersey City Ward E City Council candidate; Jersey City planning aide; member of the Mayor?s Action Bureau)

? Edward Cheatam, 61, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right & attempted extortion (Former Vice President of the Jersey City Board of Education; affirmative action officer for Hudson County, Jersey City Housing Authority commissioner)

? Maher A. Khalil, 39, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right & attempted extortion (Jersey City Department of Health and Human Services deputy director; former member of the Jersey City Zoning Board of Adjustment)

? James P. ?Jimmy? King, 67, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right (Former Jersey City Ward C City Council candidate; former head of the Jersey City Parking Authority)

? Lori Serrano, 37, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right (Former Jersey City At-Large City Council candidate; former chair of the Jersey City Housing Authority)

? Jack Shaw, 61, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right (Political Consultant)

? Mariano Vega, 59, of Jersey City, NJ, charged with conspiracy to commit extortion under color of official right (Jersey City Council President; director of the Hudson County Department of Parks, Engineering and Planning)

Is that Fulop's sole qualification for the job of CEO of the 2nd largest city in the state of New Jersey? Because right now, the only things that I can tell is that neither Fulop, nor Healy appear on that list.

Oh, and by the way, Fulop provided funding for Jimmy King for years. Also public information available through ELEC.

Fulop also supported a convicted felon in former dual officeholder (otherwise known as pension padder) Mayor of Perth Amboy/State Senator Joe Vas.

Read Excerpt:

"Fulop is powerful in the downtown district, a fact he proved when he got the vote out for Perth Amboy Mayor Joe Vas in a primary battle for the 13th District House of Representatives seat in which West New York Mayor Albio Sires won in nearly every other district in Hudson County."

Read more: Hudson Reporter - Between the lines Pulling a Torricelli
http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... ines-Pulling-a-Torricelli

Guess he made bad choices in who to support too. Guilt by association?

Posted on: 2012/9/7 18:05

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JCFree

T-Bird Is Clueless

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Quote:

T-Bird wrote:
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JCFree wrote:
Where does the money come from to fix the potholes, retain and hire cops, and stabilize taxes? Answer: state and federal grant money. It's more than mere fraternizing, it's essential to making the place you represent a priority for other elected officials who notice who you represent. You don't go it alone and govern in a vacuum.

Where does the money come from to fix the potholes, retain and hire cops and stabilize taxes? Um, that would be my insanely high property taxes - which have doubled while your boss has been in office.
Fixing potholes is a function of the DPW - they are a part of the city budget. Police are a part of the city budget. "Stabilize taxes"? Who knows what the hell that means.

T-Bird-

I am starting to think you don't read local news media and are absolutely clueless about the state of the economy and what is happening to municipalities around NJ.

Street Repaving- That does not happen without significant funding from the state and federal government. For reference-consider the repaving of Christopher Columbus Drive.

If you don't like to read- Look under Newark Avenue Gets Brighter and you will see the line "the entire project is funded by the federal government".

http://www.hudsonreporter.com/view/fu ... umbus-Drive-get-makeover-

Hiring Police- Jersey City Get $1.9 million in federal money to hire police officers

http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... al-funds-to-hire-15-cops/

Hiring Firemen- Jersey City Nabs $8.2 million grant to hire new firefighters

http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... to-hire-new-firefighters/

Maybe Steve Fulop should have you assist with such endeavors so that you are more informed in the future.

Posted on: 2012/9/7 16:54

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JCFree

Re: No Fulop Updates From DNC

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JPhurst wrote:
I suspect he is not at the DNC because the delegate slots are reserved forr supporters of the current power structure.

Would you call Senator Torricelli "not part of the Democratic power structure"?

Because that's who he takes money from these days. Someone has come a long way from being the reformer/outsider.

Posted on: 2012/9/7 16:29

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JCFree

Re: T-Bird Obviously Works for Fulop

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T-Bird wrote:
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JCFree wrote:
Where does the money come from to fix the potholes, retain and hire cops, and stabilize taxes? Answer: state and federal grant money. It's more than mere fraternizing, it's essential to making the place you represent a priority for other elected officials who notice who you represent. You don't go it alone and govern in a vacuum.

Where does the money come from to fix the potholes, retain and hire cops and stabilize taxes? Um, that would be my insanely high property taxes - which have doubled while your boss has been in office. You really think Trenton and D.C. are supposed to fill our potholes?.

You actually want to debate with me again? Let me ask, does Fulop not pay you enough to come up with accurate answers or just enough to make it worth your while to tell outright lies?

You claimed Fulop "does the right thing unprompted" and I pointed out two instances where he not only would have kept money from Spectra's lawyers and a designated redeveloper in violation of the Pay-to-Play ordinance, he only gave the money back AFTER newspaper articles were published questioning him about it.

Because remember- it's not what Fulop says, it's what he thinks he can get away with.

Kind of like receiving an ELEC violating $5,000 excessive contribution from the Honorable Senator Robert Torricelli last quarter. Again, public information, so feel free to fact check me.

Fulop claims to be independent of the "establishment" and gets a pass from some on this board due to this perception, but it's completely false.

How do you justify taking money from an establishment politician, whose career endeded due to ethics violations while in office? Is this who he aspires to become?

Sorry, Jersey City is not his stepping stone to become the next Senator Torricelli.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/31/nyr ... tml?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Posted on: 2012/9/7 16:26

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JCFree

Re: JCFREE IS A CLASSIC TROLL

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Mouse wrote:
Although the post was meant to slam Fulop and JCFree is doing some very nice TROLL work, it does provide an opportunity to discuss what is really important.

At the city/municipal level, government should concern itself with such items as repairing the streets and keeping them clean, dealing with crime/ keeping the streets safe, keeping taxes low, and otherwise making life for citizens as good as possible. These are not really partisan (Republican/Democrat) issues, but are straight forward "good government" issues.

Yes, Hudson County is predominantly Democrat, and yes it would be good to marshall as much good will as possible with the national Democratic organisation, but this is not critical. What is important is that at the local level we get good people elected and to rid City Hall of the crooks.

So, JCFREE, keep trolling and I will keep pointing out that many of Mayor Healy's Deputy Mayors have ended up in handcuffs and that current Deputy Mayor Kabili Tayari (who has also worn handcuffs) is a disgrace and recently proved it again, but Healy refuses to fire him and will keep him and all his buddies (including you, I suspect) on the payroll until the bitter end.

What you stated is directly contradictory. You talk about marshaling good will with democrats and cleaning streets/fighting crime/keeping taxes low as if they are mutually exclusive. They are not.

Where does the money come from to fix the potholes, retain and hire cops, and stabilize taxes? Answer: state and federal grant money. It's more than mere fraternizing, it's essential to making the place you represent a priority for other elected officials who notice who you represent. You don't go it alone and govern in a vacuum.

All ths makes you wonder whether he has the understanding of government to do a decent job. After all, what has he ever managed?

Posted on: 2012/9/6 18:39

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JCFree

Goya Headquarters Moves To Jersey City

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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ie_joins_goya_in_gro.html

Posted on: 2012/9/5 22:20

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JCFree

No Fulop Updates From DNC

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Is Fulop a democrat in name only? How do you seek to be mayor of the second largest urban city and not show up to support the re-election of the sitting president, who is a democrat?

It's not like he has a day job now. Tell me I am wrong and he is there and not seeking publicity.

Posted on: 2012/9/5 22:15

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JCFree

Re: Jersey City school board rejects contract for new superintendent

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Has anyone reviewed this contract? Could we have a $300K+ per year Superintendant? Absurd! I thought this new school board was supposed to be comprised of people who would watch the bottom line?

http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... verpower-education-board/

Posted on: 2012/8/31 2:35

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JCFree

Contaminated Land In Ward F Transforming Into Green Oasis-Berry Lane Park

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http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... en-oasis-berry-lane-park/

Posted on: 2012/8/31 2:29

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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T-Bird wrote:
You raise a great point. Fulop has proactively returned over $50,000 in contributions. These contributions were not violations of anything. There was no public pressure - just someone trying to do the right thing, as he did with the Impact contribution.
On one hand, you are attacking someone who does the right thing unprompted.

A simple google search of Decotiis represents Spectra shed some more light on:

More to "proactively returning money, no public pressure, and doing the right thing unprompted". Consider that Fulop and Dale Hardman knew about the Decotiis/Spectra connection as far back as October of 2011, yet it was not until the late July 2012 ELEC filing that Fulop returned the contributions. Why you ask?

http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php ... offset=0&total_comments=9

Because the proactive man that does the right thing in the absence of public pressure became aware of a newspaper article which touched on the Spectra/Decotiis contributions from the Hudson Reporter dated July 20, 2012.

http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_s ... nstance=home_Most_popular

T-Bird....that's two instances now where he not only didn't "proactively do the right thing"....it took media pressure for him to return the money.

Your credibility is through the roof. Why don't you just come out and let us know that you work on the Fulop campaign?

Posted on: 2012/8/27 3:08

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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T-Bird wrote:

Let's be honest here. Clearly it is political season and you are a troll. You surfaced to defend Dan Levin once he decided to compromise himself and run with Healy and you reference Esther the tea partier (certainly that doesnt mesh with the Occupy ethic, does it?) who is also running with Healy and abandoned her views once getting on the library board. The library board! Can you imagine her fealty to him if he ever somehow managed to get her elected to a council seat???

What is fact is that the only thing that team Healy can run on is drag other people down because their record on crime, taxes and corruption are embarrassing. If I were as full of questions as you are, I'd be asking Esther and Dan - people you support - why they would sell out their "principles" to be a part of that.

I'd say we've come a long way T-Bird. The thread started with you questioning the basis for the title and likening it to a "how often do you beat your wife question" to you conceding a Pay-to-Play violation, albeit a separate ordinance.

I will let you go back to elevating political discourse by calling me a troll for discussing verifiable facts.

Are you sure you still want to question other people's beliefs as if Fulop has any real principles?

Posted on: 2012/8/26 16:34

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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T-Bird wrote:
On one hand, you are attacking someone who does the right thing unprompted. So what do you say about someone who takes bribes to fund his campaign? Given your sharp, if misguided, moral compass, you must be outraged about that. You should have a conversation with whoever you are posting for about that - be it Healy or people who are running with him.

Really, Healy is corrupt? I hadn't heard that before now. But you know what, that's not a reason for me to vote for Steve Fulop for Mayor. The only discernable message I have heard from Steve Fulop over the past three years is vote for me, I will reform and Healy is corrupt.

I have read it in print and watched Fulop say it in the video interview attached in the "Healy/Fulop Gloves Are OFF"...he says, "Watch what Healy does and not what he says". That's thought provoking and a que to the public that there is no need to think about what Fulop says versus what he does.

Well, you claim that Fulop "does the right thing unprompted" with respect to his return of campaign contributions. Since you are well-versed in the Pay-to-Play ordinances and intimately familiar with ELEC, then perhaps you can explain to me how he did not violate Pay-to-Play when he accepted $1,500 from IMPACT PAC the political fundraising arm of IMPACT JC-LLC, a City designated redeveloper, on 2/19/10 as reported in his ELEC filing dated April 19, 2010?

As you must know, he had 30 days from the applicable filing date (April 15, 2010) to return the contribution and avoid violating the ordinance. A check for returning the money was issued on June 2, 2010 as reported in his July 13, 2010 ELEC filing- JUNE 2ND IS THE SAME DAY THE JERSEY JOURNAL PUBLISHED THE ARTICLE ADDRESSING THE INCIDENT. That's called being prompted. That's called returning the money because you were caught violating the ordinance you championed in the news. That's called watch what I do and not what I say.

The same thing undoubtedly occurred with Spectra Energy's lawyers. You mean to tell me the Downtown City Councilman, who has Dale Hardman of "No Gas Pipeline" working on his campaign, had no idea that Decotiis represents the entity that is the scourge of Jersey City? You mean after the partners gave him $30,000+ it was never once mentioned, "hey you know we represent Spectra Energy?" C'mon.

I'd say someone said to him, you better give that money back before people start asking questions. Questions like, did Steve Fulop write a single letter to any state or federal officials urging them to oppose the pipeline project? And if he did, did he stop after the Decotiis money started rolling in? But I know, you think he deserves a cookie for returning Spectra's influence peddling.

I am sure that Spectra's lawyers gave because they were all about his message of reform. They had no business friendly interest in exhibiting such generosity. The spirit of upholding Pay-to-Play reform was alive and well.

So, forgive me if I listened with keen interest to hear Fulop's response to Esther Wintner's question at the City Council meeting. And I ask Fulop again, has Ramon Rivera raised money for your mayoral campaign?

Because it's not what Fulop says, it's what he believes he can get away with that counts.

Posted on: 2012/8/26 0:31

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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I see impartial civic discourse is alive and well on this board. I simply raised a question that came up at a City Council meeting and apparently you prove just how innocent Fulop is by answering for him and bashing the person making the inquiry. Very rational.

This wouldn't be the first time that Fulop failed to exercise due dilligence in considering where his campaign money comes from in the political action committe context and whether they do business with the City or in the case of Spectra Energy's lawyers the Decotiis Firm- against the City.

http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerse ... 75460854146290.xml&coll=3

Posted on: 2012/8/25 6:34

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JCFree

Re: Dan Levin in talks to run with Healy

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JSleeze- Give it break. It's kind of pathetic to smear everyone who potentially runs against or criticizes Fulop. You are starting to come off like the informaiton czar for the Politburo.

Dan Levin and Esther Wintner have been outspoken community members who have criticized the present administration. They also have a strong desire to serve their respective communities and look out for the tax payers.

Being a reformer does not consign you to hating and opposing one, while ensuring that you support another no matter what.

That's not being reform minded, that's being blindly partisan.

Dan Levin and Esther Wintner are anything but blind partisans.

Posted on: 2012/8/24 21:29

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JCFree

Re: Fulop Violating Pay-To-Play?

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T-Bird- Why should I rename the thread? I framed it as a question, one already asked by a resident at a public meeting and directed to an elected official.

I think the public and the media should demand an answer, unless the requirement of following the law only applies to elected officials and candidates for office whose name is not Steve Fulop.

Can Fulop or one of his supporters answer this simple question, has Ramon Rivera raised money for his mayoral election campaign?

Posted on: 2012/8/24 21:09

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