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Re: Jersey City Police Department lay offs and budget cuts
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For once I somewhat agree with robotjustin. Waging a war with the public by using sensical reasoning is more than likely useless. However, the system the way it is reaps what it sows. I grant you that there are quite a few who should not be cops simply based upon their lack of basic knowledge in the use of the English language and the proper usage of it when it comes to the written word.
The problem lies with the system. There is a constant insistence that the candidates for police only be from city residents. Therein lies the problem. The police are paid a good salary. Why wouldn't and why shouldn't the citizens of the city demand that they get the best possible candidate for their tax dollar. Who cares where the person comes from. I want then to be intelligent and highly qualified. The old argument that a city resident cares more just doesn't cut it. It is the individual who cares. I'm sure that dedication has nothing to do with where you live. It is a pride thing that makes people strive to do their jobs and I for one want these intelligent driven people to be working for my tax dollars.

Posted on: 2010/12/3 4:33
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Re: Jersey City Police Department lay offs and budget cuts
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Once again robotjustin comes up with a doozy (is that spelled right, is that a word) let's ask the English teacher. It's obvious by any posts he or she has made there is nothing in the old noggin but slush.

Posted on: 2010/12/3 1:41
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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Hey carpetbaggertil718,I'm done. I should know better. I don't know why I do this to myself. JSleeze and robotjustin proved my point. They have nothing to add except idiotic rants. By the way I am not a cop. Good luck in your future out of control crime ridden city.

Posted on: 2010/11/23 16:27
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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Hey carpetbaggertil718, we are wasting our breath with people like JSleeze and robotjustin. The only hope with posting on this forum and for the people of Jersey City is that some people with a modicum of intelligence do read these posts and will receive some factual and realistic points of view. It is obvious by their jaded sense of intelligence(LOL) that their only response is inflicted with hatred for whatever happened to them. This is obvious in the way they may respond to a post answering them or even better they just ignore what is sent to them regarding their ludicrous comment. So to you JSleeze get it through your thick skull that police oficers when they retired are NOT paid for their accumulated sick days. There are none.

Posted on: 2010/11/23 14:15
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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Very incisive retort robotjustin. Can anyone on this forum discuss the facts and not cry about their speeding ticket or the one time they had an encounter they didn't like with a police officer. responding to these comments can get tiring when idiots are allowed to post.

Posted on: 2010/11/23 2:09
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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Hey JSleeze you got me. Comparing a construction worker or as you say it a poor schmuck who falls into a cement mixer to a police officer tells me your mentality. Sounds to me like someone who posts to this forum is a little mixed up.

Posted on: 2010/11/22 23:18
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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Hey Adonis....the city can reserve the right to make layoffs and the police reserve the right to not give anything back. Sometimes it's a give and take and sometimes it's not, however the city cannot dictate terms without some dialogue. It's a proven fact since it has happened in the past......The police have also helped out in past years in giving something up for something else and then down the road that something else was taken away without them getting back what they gave up for it. These politiciaNS ARE NOT TRUSTWORTHY.....so yes I'm sure if it comes down to it they will want a promise of no layoffs if they decide to help out. Yes, they will kep their jobs and you and the citizens will keep a sizable police force for a city that needs it.

Posted on: 2010/11/22 19:08
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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Even if they were to give back some of the MINIMAL raise they received, the city will not promise no layoffs. Oh, and by the way a majority of the last class hired which will be laid off are VETERANS who have served the country in Iraq and Afghanistan. They come back, take a job with the PD to serve the city, start their non-military lives, get married, have kids and a fine how do you do. We're letting you go. I am sure that if the city tried hard enough many savings could be found elsewhere.

Posted on: 2010/11/22 16:40
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Re: JCPD cutbacks
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At one time the Healy administration had aspirations to go to a 1,000 man police department. Now they want to go to a department in the 600's or so. Wait until the census figures come out and we learn that JC is now the most populous city in the state. Now they want to lay off young cops who make the least and probably work the hardest. Let's not forget what you will do for morale. Oh, I know the general public will cry who cares about morale, but it does mean alot. Let's not also forget that if you do lay off those officers that when they finally are brought back you may have ruined an exceptional employee. As for the supervisors, despite what people think supervision is quite necessary and in the last year it seems that an ample amount have retired and come off the city's payroll. Despite the public and taxpayer hatred for the police, let me clue you in on something.......they are necessary. Do not hate and despise them for doing a job that many would not want to and do realize that when things were better with the economy no one cared. Many older veterans took the job when the pay was not very good. Now the pay is a lot better (rightfully so) and everyone wants to crucify them. The people you should be mad at are the politicians who mismanage your taxpayer money. The police had a pension system which was among the best in the nation at one time until the politicians raided the system to help the general public, but where is the taxpayer thanks for that. That pension system is contributed to by the police at a greater percentage than the public seems to know. So go on crying and complaining and not caring about the loss of police on the streets. Those streets may soon look like the streets in the "Walking Dead" television series.

Posted on: 2010/11/22 14:57
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Re: JC needs $22 million for payouts for unused sick, vacation & compensatory time to city retires
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YOU do not know what you are talking about. Get the facts. The police do not get paid for unused sick time and do NOT accrue sick time. Do not lump Jersey City police in with other municipal and state employees.

Posted on: 2010/10/24 23:54
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Re: Police Salaries_Star Ledger
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I'm done....I give up....you people are pathetic...no matter what I say you will have some unsatisfied idiotic response...good luck in your life...and I really mean that!!!

Posted on: 2010/10/2 22:40
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Re: Police Salaries_Star Ledger
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Money well spent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on: 2010/10/2 14:11
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Re: Big cop party at Puccini’s Tues 9/28/10 5:00 p.m. ???????
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What makes me laugh is the fact no one complains about the supposed heroes who get PAID to sleep, are supplied with sleeping equipment, hang outside their place of employment and shoot the breeze, and learn to be gourmet cooks. This all being paid for by the taxpayer who is fooled by it all. The job they work is like a second job to them. It's nice they are all rested in the morning to go to their real jobs........but no complaints about them......wait till the city lays off cops, then you will have a crime rate to complain about. Oh, about those other heroes. When they have to work I wouldn't want to do what they do, but really it's not like it was in the old days. They are basically paid laborers whose training cannot come anywhere near that of a police officers.

Posted on: 2010/10/1 15:44
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Re: Big cop party at Puccini’s Tues 9/28/10 5:00 p.m. ???????
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Hey Neverleft,
That so called PARTY was an informational meeting on how the state was and is in the process of screwing the cops. Apparently, you may like that, but be assured that you won't when in the future you see the quality of the police that will be serving you.

Posted on: 2010/10/1 15:09
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Re: Police Salaries_Star Ledger
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Hey Josiered,
What do you mean YOU pay for the off duty officer. Unless you are a contractor you pay absolutely squat. The taxpayer does not foot the bill. What makes me laugh is the fact no one complains about the supposed heroes who get PAID to sleep, are supplied with sleeping equipment, hang outside their place of employment and shoot the breeze, and learn to be gourmet cooks. This all being paid for by the taxpayer who is fooled by it all. The job they work is like a second job to them. It's nice they are all rested in the morning to go to their real jobs........but no complaints about them......wait till the city lays off cops, then you will have a crime rate to complain about. Oh, about those other heroes. When they have to work I wouldn't want to do what they do, but really it's not like it was in the old days. They are basically paid laborers whose training cannot come anywhere near that of a police officers.

Posted on: 2010/10/1 14:23
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