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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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Put the four floors of parking underground


Is that even an option considering how prone to flooding that area is?


It's possible of course, but underground structures in general are very expensive to construct, which is why this developer went the cheap way out and proposing it go above ground. I say that's not acceptable and they need to find some other way of providing parking that won't ruin the experience as people walk by the building. I especially like Fomite's idea about the stoops and windows at street level. It would blend better into the neighborhood. What's really important is making sure they got the bottom floors right.

I absolutely hate walking around Newport. Above ground parking garages that are visible from the street should be banned in much of the city, especially in a historic area. Finding a creative way of providing parking should be the cost of doing business for the developer.

I feel like the tone of this thread has shifted, and the right questions are being asking about the design of the structure, rather than the conversation to date, which have been focused solely on height.




Posted on: 2015/6/4 12:32
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Re: Jersey City Weekly Update
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StevenFulop wrote:
Every week, we send out an update on some of the things we are working on as a team. I know that JCList has many people who read it, some of which have strong opinions, and many who are not on my e-mail list, so I thought it would be helpful to also share the update here on a weekly basis.
Hope all is well with all of you (including the frequent critics)
Steve


This is very helpful, thanks! I would love to hear more about the new developments taking place in the city.

Posted on: 2015/6/3 22:19
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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Wishful_Thinking wrote:
People should look closely at the criteria in the Redevelopment Plan - which are very subjective with respect to the design of the new building, how the parking is handled, etc. - and ask how they are enforced, who decides, etc., and push hard to make sure they are iron-clad and result in a well designed, contextual building.


The recent approval of the KRE proposal on Marin between 8th and 9th Streets might be instructive. The City Planning Board and Council amended the 14 story height restriction in the long-standing redevelopment plan for this area in favor of the 19 story proposal from the developer. I suppose they need more taxes for the City Budget, and more donations for future political campaigns. The take home for me: redevelopment plans and zoning restrictions mean little or nothing in Jersey City.


Because plans are a guide, not gospel or a commendment. If you chose to believe otherwise, you're going to be thoroughly disappointed.

The KRE proposal was on the edge of a historic district and the lands were long vacant. It would have been a different story if smack in the middle or replacing a historic structure. Plus the benefits the city received in exchange for the extra height was deemed an appropriate trade off - benefits that would have been impossible to envisioned when the plan or zoning was first drafted. This is why we have an amendment process!

My main issue with this building is the parking garage, not the height. Put the four floors of parking underground and the building deceases of 14 to 10. That may be the trade off. I also am fascinated and have yet to hear a decent rebuttal why 7 floors is okay but anything above 7 is bad planning and/or equals the destruction of the community. That's because there is none, and it's just knee jerk reaction...

I'll censor myself as to my opinions why there is such a strong reaction.

Posted on: 2015/6/3 22:15
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Re: A casino in Jersey City? Venture capitalist wants to make it happen
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Thanks!! It looks very impressive!

Posted on: 2015/6/3 18:33
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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I love it! Hypocrites that claim they are for development and building a stronger Jersey City until development is proposed in their own backyard.

I wonder if this is the mindset of those against this development: I spent a lot of money to live in this historic district, and I'll be damned if I let anyone else move in nearby that didn't pay as much as me.


Given that this developer is planning on making lots of money, I doubt that any of the units will go for cheaper than the going rate at the, mostly historic district, units around them.

You know what would be hypocritical if approved: through the front windows of our unit we would see a four story parking lot and a 18 story tower but yet we would still not be able to replace the now aluminum windows by anything but custom made windows - wooden with panes in a specific green color ! - in order to preserve the historic nature of our street/building.


As I stated earlier, the design of the building, especially the parking garage, is what concerns me, not the height of the building. I'm hopeful these issues can be ironed out and the 'gargantuan' tower can proceed. That area of Christopher Columbus needs this development.

Posted on: 2015/6/1 15:52
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Re: Fulop to solicit proposals from for-profit companies to replace FOL in running the Loew’s theater
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Maybe now that court case is over the folks who took an active interest in preserving the Loews will be able to use the grant funding to continue to revive the theatre.

Handing it over to a private entity will result in $150 Ticketmaster
prices and Beyonce can kiss mah azz.

This property should be used by and for Jersey City, students should have access to plays and use of the stage for their needs and development.




Do you intentionally want the theater to return to disrepair? It needs to generate positive cash flow to pay for maintenance. Giving it to students for free sounds very idealistic but students are not going to pay the bills.

Posted on: 2015/5/30 22:38
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Re: Fulop to solicit proposals from for-profit companies to replace FOL in running the Loew’s
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I think some of the anti-FOL people should remember-the theater would be either an office building or a giant hole if they hadn't stepped up, voluntarily, to stop the wrecking ball . . .


This is true. Let FOL have its remaining five years and then turn it over to a private operator with a capacity to make it great.

FOL deserves we respect the lease, because without them, there would be nothing.

Posted on: 2015/5/30 22:33
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Re: Jersey City Mayor Seeks to Limit Chain Stores Downtown
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Is this the official end of the soon to be Whole Foods in downtown?


It's based on market area, as the population and household income of Jersey City grows, it's years,only a matter of time for all those upscale retailers to get in on the action.

Whole Foods, Trader Joes, Starbucks at Journal Square, Apple Store, and a couple Applebees in Jersey City all within 15 years guaranteed. If downtown doesn't permit chain stores, they'll just open up in Newport of even Journal Square if the area rapidly gentrifies.

Posted on: 2015/5/29 14:50
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Re: Jersey City Mayor Seeks to Limit Chain Stores Downtown
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This seems like a solution in search of a problem. It's been my experience that millennials shun chain stores anyway. And to the person talking about going to TGI Friday's for a steak?! Barf!! There are soooo many better chain/non-chain restaurants to get a good steak. Have a higher standard, man!

Posted on: 2015/5/29 14:47
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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one can be pro-development and concern about community preservation. who says that site needs to have a gargantuan tower and not a 7-story tower. if the developer can't make money with a 7-story building, then he should sell it to someone who can


On the same line of reasoning, why is a 7-story tower seen as okay and how would a taller building harm the community? Yes, it's written in the redevelopment plan for 7-story but it's a plan, which means it can and should be amended when appropriate.

The design of the building, to make sure if fits into the surrounding area, is much more important to me. And based on what I've read so far, needs a lot of work. It's foolish just to focus on the height and numbers when it comes to city building.

Posted on: 2015/5/28 16:47
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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K-Lo wrote:
This site is approved under a Redevelopment Plan for 7 stories, like Charles & Co and the building going in at the former Borinquen site.


It's also legally permissible to propose a modification to a redevelopment plan, which is exactly what is happening now. Just because it's 7 stories now, that doesn't mean 7 stories is gospel until the end of times or that the redevelopment plan should be used as a tool for those against development.

I'll be speaking at City Hall in support of the modification of the redevelopment plan and I invite like minded individuals to come with me.

Posted on: 2015/5/28 16:32
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I love it! Hypocrites that claim they are for development and building a stronger Jersey City until development is proposed in their own backyard. It's the same thing with the Hilltop people up in Journal Square. Literally 100 yards from the PATH station and 20 yards from one of the tallest buildings in Jersey City but would rather the site stay a parking lot.

I wonder if this is the mindset of those against this development: I spent a lot of money to live in this historic district, and I'll be damned if I let anyone else move in nearby that didn't pay as much as me. Cry me a river.

Posted on: 2015/5/28 16:28
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Re: Gargantuan Tower Proposed for Barrow and Christopher Columbus
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Wow! Do you live in the historical district? Did you see the plans for this building? Do you own a building that you restored to it's historical glory? I'm guessing its a big fat NO.

I'm all for development as well, but these plans do not fit into this neighborhood. End of story.



No, it's not end of story. I'm all for historic preservation, but this particular site is not by any means historic and fronts Christopher Columbus Rd. I fail to see how restoring a historic building down the street from new development somehow gives you veto rights over that development. Had this been at Barrow and Newark, then I would be right there with you righting this development, it would be way out of context. Christopher Columbus is a major street and is fair game for intensification.

Posted on: 2015/5/28 16:15
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This is probably a stupid question, but why would Two Boots oppose a high-rise in the neighborhood for business reasons? Wouldn't more people (many without cars) be good for their business?


Hi! I had to register to express my frustration at Two Boots. I love their pizza, but if the original post reflects the opinions of their owners, I'll be boycotting that establishment! I love Jersey City, and it's entering an exciting new phase with all these developments. It's only getting better, and I will not support a business actively standing in the way of making a better city for selfish or misguided reasons.

And wouldn't a responsible business owner that relies on street traffic be supportive of new high incomer earners living in the neighborhood? Their position shows an anti city building bias. Where would Two Boots be had there been no Jersey City renaissance or development around Grove.

I say bring on the tower, and it's a shame it's not of higher density. What really matters is the design of the building, so it fits into the neighborhood at street level, especially the bottom six floors. I think I read that this building which subsequently approved, which is great news and means our city council doesn't pander to a minority of illogical loud mouths.

Don't worry Two Boots, this new business will probably increase your bottom line, in-spite of your anti-city building attitude.

Posted on: 2015/5/28 0:44
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