Charini wrote:
Yes, people who litter do suck and they should be approached when littering, but you can not blame the bb court on this. Most of the people who use it do not litter. I see litter outside of stores, pizzerias, the PATH station, etc. Do you close those places down as well? The bb court is a positive thing and it seems that the people complaining have deeper issues that involve the kids who go there.

sandstone wrote:
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Vigilante wrote:
I find that the supporters of the BB court appear the most racist. They reason that if the "kids" don't have basketball then they will be out and about mugging and killing people. As if they only have those two choices! Now that is racism!
BTW? Kudos to Phil Rivo and Dave for cleaning up last night and emptying the garbage cans. It's a shame that residents must clean up after other people.

You're crossing a line here and taking this to an ugly place. Go to the embankment dog area, go to Enos Jones dog area, talk to all those you normally talk to. You will find that each and every person is in favor of the bb court. You know us, you've talked to us about many things. Do you really think because we are in favor of the court we are racists? You're desparate to win an argument that you lost a long, long time ago. Come out from behind this veil and tell us how racist we are in person.

Everyone is thin-skinned but you, right, Vig? Stop whining. Kids littler.

jcnick77 wrote:
It is funny to me that all the transplants in the downtown area of Jersey City are all suddenly scared that the 'thugs' from other areas are infiltrating into the area... news flash : that precise downtown area for years was the bowels of the city... you couldn't pay someone to live in that Paulus Hook area it was always a desolated, gang- ridden war zone. Older family friends have expressed to me that in the past this area was a meeting ground for disorderly groups to drink, party, and handle heir differences. In the past, it was group rumbles with maybe some weapons, today it is guns and killings... The natives of Jersey City know that all the downtown area is, is make-up put on the surface of the city. What some of you should do, is instead of hopping on the Path to NYC on a hot summer night, you should jump on the light rail and head south and west,. By doing this, you will be able to see how beautiful Jersey City is. Make sure you get off at the Virginia / MLK stop and enjoy the sights. Most of you wouldn't get off the train..Maybe after your nice little tour of the city on a summer night, you will appreciate the J.C.P.D. and all their efforts.. You all dont realize how safe you really are ...

robotjustin wrote:
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Dog runs are a place to let your dog run around and play with other dogs while they are off leash. They should not be used as a place to let your dogs relieve themselves.

Hold up. So sidewalks, lawns, streets, and wherever all else are fine, but dog runs are sacrosanct?

Can you see why so many people despise the entitled attitude of dog owners?

snowflake20 wrote:
If there is a dog run at the park, how hard is it to take them there to do their business? It's not like the park is that big.

jcnight wrote:

People are crazy for pulling over and yelling.
But......... I was on the grass over the weekend with both my dogs chatting with a couple that was takeing in some sun and a police officer told me that I had to get off beacuse there are no dogs allowed on the grass. Did they change the rules again? He actually went thru the park and told all owners to get their dogs off the grass. I think it is very confusing beacuse the signs are not up yet.
I would like to know are we or are we not allowed on the grass?

I will not go on it if we are not allowed but it is very hard to enter the park and not have them sniff around the grass.

I was also told that the fine was being raised to some where in the hundreds after the signs go up. Is this true?
Where are the alleged signs?

Amy wrote:
As stated earlier in this thread, on Saturday 6/5 at 9 am there was a meeting at the gazebo in HP to organize a regular clean-up effort. I wasn't one of the organizers, but I attended the meeting. Each of us filled out a form with our contact information. They're asking for a minimum commitment of one day per month of maybe 30 minutes of clean-up time. Can one of the organizers please put info here about who to contact, in case anyone else wants to volunteer?

I still have hope that someone will organize an effort to communicate with the basketball players about participating in keeping the park clean. As was already stated here, complaining on a message board won't do much to solve the problem. I'd rather have someone clean up the court (including me) than not have a court at all simply because it gets trashed.

Sutherland wrote:
I didn't make the meeting either. Because of my odd work schedule and other commitments I probably won't be able to participate in an organized clean up effort. However, I have picked up a few nights in various areas of the park including both the BB Court and the children's area.

I am sure anyone who cannot participate in an organized effort is welcome to clean up in the park as they can.

Any effort will be valuable and appreciated.

There's no point of arguing with the losers on this site who do nothing but rank on their neighbors who have made efforts to improve the neighborhood.

It's better to take action and take care of this gem we are uniquely fortunate to have.

Vigilante wrote:
The basketball court was absolutely trashed again tonight. On matter of principle I cannot clean up after those people.
Why are there no signs posted or an officer writing tickets? Time to end the mis-directed hysteria aimed at dog-owners and start a movement to close that court. It is a big open sore on the new park. Shameful.

Waver wrote:
We don't go to Central Park, Liberty State Park, VV Park, etc. and litter & make late night noise. It is a matter of education & enforcement, not a matter of demographics or geography.

Waver wrote:
My problem with most complaints on this thread has been exactly that. I get that there is a litter problem and late night noise issues, but the language used here like hooligans, undesirables, kids from other neighborhoods, etc. urks me to no end.

Well, maybe I misconstrued it, but I thought I detected a bias against people not living directly around the park, e.g. black kids from Holland Gardens, and also a sense that only stakeholders, those right in the immediate environs of the park had standing to opine. I am happy to think I am wrong and that my discolure was extraneous.

Sure, basketball should stop at 10:00 pm, but there are many ways to accomplish this.

I'll propose a solution: Put a CLUB on the basketball rims at 10pm. Take it off in the morning. I had a court in my yard years back and the neighborhood kids would play games in my yard during the day when we were away. So I put the CLUB there and it stopped them from playing and ruining my garden.

Actually there is a noise ordinance, the park does close at 10pm, and the cops will enforce it if we bitch enough. The problem is you can't part bitch. You cant have the cops enforce part of the law and not the other ( park closeing at 10pm.) So the kids can scream and I guess who ever wants to use the park after 10pm can do so also.

The basketball court has been packed with guys enjoyng it every time I've been down there, so that shows that there is a need for it.

Nice thought BUT... Big but.....
My friggen tax hikes this year alone paid for more than enough. You ask me to pay for a dog run or tennis courts and I might @#$#$%^&%^ you!! I would have agreed if the politics in this city were even half way honest but they already have us property owners pretty locked up

Call me cynical, but I suspect that the scheduling of the park opening ceremony in the middle of a weekday has everything to do with Healy's preference for a low turnout. He knows that the hardworking downtown folk of HP (as in those of who will be working during that time of day) see right through him and his corrupt cronies. I hope that those of you who do go will call him out on his shenanigans, and loudly boo this shameless leader of a council of crooks (minus Steve, of course).

Attention car 28, white yuppies are complaining of brown people in front of the pizzaria, please respond over.