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Re: Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark's neoliberal egomaniac
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You hit the main point right on the head. he hasn't finished his first job, and now the voters are promoting him to a higher office. I can't help but to just shake my head at the people in this state.

There are too many "low information" voters out there, and it's just sad.

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Great articles, but it's like pissing in the wind. This election was decided a looooong time ago by the media. I don't think there has ever been a politician with more staged rescues and photo-ops as this empty suit.

You get the politicians you deserve.

Clearly, NJ deserves the bottom of the barrel (and will be getting it!).


eh, I don't think his antics are staged. the guy is genuinely friendly, and puts himself out there. (during his Torico's stop, he happily agreed to take a photo with my foster hound, to feature on Petfinder.)

and I think he's just taking advantage of a prime opportunity to advance his career, as we all would.

that said, I'd much rather see him stick around Newark for a few more years, and actually accomplish more concrete objectives, or, at the very least, use his celebrity to benefit the locals more.

maybe we can hope as much for the next mayor of Newark?

full disclosure: I voted for Holt.

Posted on: 2013/8/13 16:24
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Re: Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark's neoliberal egomaniac
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Great articles, but it's like pissing in the wind. This election was decided a looooong time ago by the media. I don't think there has ever been a politician with more staged rescues and photo-ops as this empty suit.

You get the politicians you deserve.

Clearly, NJ deserves the bottom of the barrel (and will be getting it!).

Posted on: 2013/8/13 15:50
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Re: Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark's neoliberal egomaniac
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He certainyl has, which is why this election is a joke. The fact that Fulop supports both Booker and the resurgence of someone as corrupt as McGreedy is shaking people's confidence in him already.

Posted on: 2013/8/12 19:06
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Re: Cory Booker: the inexorable rise of Newark's neoliberal egomaniac
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My conversation with a stranger on the train talking about Cory Booker:

Me: "overheard you talking about voting for Cory Booker, why are you voting for him?"

Her: "because he's great, very inspirational"

Me: "inspirational? Why so?"

Her: "because he's just great. He's done a lot for Newark?"

Me: "he has?? I didn't know that...can you tell me more about something specific he's done?"

Her: "ummmm, well, he's like, made the city better and stuff"

Me: "oh that's cool, how has he made it better?"

Her: "well, he like, he turned it around and ummmm its nicer"

Me: "right but how? What specifically did he do to make that happen. And what exactly is 'nicer'?"

Her: I dunno, he's just awesome!

EXACTLY....SMH....

Posted on: 2013/8/12 1:42
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Re: Shocking conflict of interest between Booker and CNN
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My conversation with a stranger on the train talking about Cory Booker:

Me: "overheard you talking about voting for Cory Booker, why are you voting for him?"

Her: "because he's great, very inspirational"

Me: "inspirational? Why so?"

Her: "because he's just great. He's done a lot for Newark?"

Me: "he has?? I didn't know that...can you tell me more about something specific he's done?"

Her: "ummmm, well, he's like, made the city better and stuff"

Me: "oh that's cool, how has he made it better?"

Her: "well, he like, he turned it around and ummmm its nicer"

Me: "right but how? What specifically did he do to make that happen. And what exactly is 'nicer'?"

Her: I dunno, he's just awesome!

EXACTLY....SMH....

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I will not be joining the parade to elect Cory Booker based on name recognition alone. He has no legislative experience and the very best you can say about his record in Newark is "mixed." A gift for self-promotion does not mean he's earned a job promotion. (BTW, running out on Newark before completing the term he promised to finish.)

Unfortunately, with the trio of Holt, Oliver, and Pallone each taking their slice of the electorate, the election will look like a cakewalk.

Frank Pallone and Rush Holt have each done fine work representing their districts in the House of Representatives. Each would represent NJ well, and nobody would doubt that their #1 focus would be working in the Senate to benefit New Jersey and our nation.

Posted on: 2013/8/12 1:41
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Re: All the graffiti around town recently
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(And before anyone points out the obvious regarding another post about the sweep of 111 etc etc ...that's good long term detective work. The focus of this thread seems to be more on the day to day presence - or lack thereof - of the JCPD. Please differentiate between the two).

Posted on: 2013/8/11 19:07
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Re: All the graffiti around town recently
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The JCPD has more inertia than a train sitting in a grass field. Considering murders have gone up, they clearly aren't busy putting a stop to that. Considering quality of life complaints have gone up, they clearly aren't busy doing anything about that. Considering many other Infractions occur regularly lately with no reprecussions, one has to ask...what exactly is the JCPD doing right?

Oh wait...they're likely on vacation. It might make more sense to raise all of these concerns around September/October.

Until then...good night and good luck!

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I just noticed this doozy this afternoon. Right on the brand new building they are trying to build across from KeyFoods next to the Funeral home. Needless to say, if I were the builder/owner I would be pissed.

This also affects our neighborhoods by decreasing property values and quality of life. Meanwhile our taxes keep going up. Where is the JCPD?

Just as the JCIA finally removed the big graffiti tag from the corner of second and Jersey Ave, this one seems to have replaced it and will be an eyesore for a while.

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Posted on: 2013/8/11 19:02
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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And for the record, I wouldn't call criticism of Hoboken whining. The homogenous mass of yuppies who love it there can stay there in their insulated hub of blandness.

The point of the Hoboken comparison is to point out what we DON'T want DTJC to become. If any of you guys on here like Hoboken so much, why the hell do you live in DTJC? By all means, move back. We won't be mad at you. In fact, you might find volunteers to help you move :)

But don't try to change the more affordable DTJC to fit your ideal lifestyle. Get a promotion and head back to No-Jokin.

Posted on: 2013/8/6 19:46
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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Sorry I'm not sorry but Made with Love and the Greek place were awful. I don't support crappy establishments for the sake of checking the box on my "keep DTJC prosperous" list.

There are many thriving restaurants in DTJC that know how to price things appropriately and fill a need.

Posted on: 2013/8/6 19:42
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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Wow, you don't give enough credit to the numerous "properly lit and clean" restaurants in DTJC (Satis, Lighthorse, LITM, Skinners, Porto, Marco & Pepe, Abbondanza, Park & Sixth, blah blah blah), and instead focusing on the few eyesores that have been in JC longer than you.

If you like Hoboken so much, move there...oh wait, it's ridiculously expensive for crappy, cramped, outdated apartments. I pay 2/3 as much in DTJC for an apartment twice the size as what I could find in Hoboken. Oh, and I face the water with a large balcony.

I'll take my dollar stores over the bourgeois, homogenous crap you find in Hoboken. Hoboken, where one fist pumping bar resembles the next. A town flooded so many times, it smells worse than the sewage below it (or maybe it's the Aqua di Gio).

Focus on filling the empty lots and closed businesses before you start campaigns to kick out existing vendors.

And FYI, there's a Trader Joe's in Brooklyn Heights, on a street that resembles Newark Ave almost exactly. it's got a wide range of higher end stores and TONS of dollar/low end shops, so...there you go.


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There is a difference between grit and character and what is currently Newark Avenue.

It should not look like Perth Amboy or Elizabeth. Perth Amboy and Elizabeth don't have 300k condos, nevermind however much the Saffron is going for these days.

It's not a matter of making it look like Washington Street in Hoboken. But that said- you have a lot of things there that people here ask for all the time and instead have to go there and take their money out of the city for.

Sorry but we do not need multiple dollar stores and discount stores, halal groceries, check cashers, among others. Yes I'd rather a bank or dry cleaners, but really what would be nice is a Trader Joe's/(never, ever coming to be side saddle to Hollywood Chicken). How about a sports bar? We have Jordan's. It would be a tragedy to be like Hoboken; we may have drunken frat types instead of our current, preferred situation of shootings outside over there.

It doesn't work both ways; "Oh we're affluent, come here Whole Foods and we'll show you...just imagine all the people stopping in after their jaunt to CH Martin!"

I will ask my Hoboken friends how they are doing forced going to Target for discount needs, the mall for the dollar store, and having properly lit and clean restaurants instead of discount stores. I can imagine they are quite jealous!

Posted on: 2013/8/2 19:04
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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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Well, if we can keep this discussion civilized, should be ok to keep it. Webmaster took care of the VVParkMom Troll.

Posted on: 2013/8/2 18:24
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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Vindi, you know I'm a fan. But I want to play Devil's advocate on some of your points.

1. Your property value point is a good one, got nothing against that idea (except I rent, so when values go up, my rent goes up, but that's my problem). And like you said, it's not a race question. Saying you want an area to be less ghetto may imply race to some, but I get your point. There are ghetto types of all races hanging around and they don't add anything to the community.

2. there's actually a pretty good amount of homeless/vagabond (yeah I used that word hahah) types on washington st begging and bother people. It may not be as prominent as Newark ave, but that's also because there's a halfway house near Newark if I remember correctly. Change the stores all you want, you'll still have these types hanging out. Agreed?

3. I can only speak for myself when I say Hoboken can keep its Cake Boss show. I shutter to think of a store like that on Newark ave with it's ridiculous lines for sub standard pastries. And most of the restaurants on Newark/Grove have a pretty healthy crowds most nights. Parts of Brooklyn have it right, and have avoided cookie cutter, Hoboken-style businesses. Brooklyn has a healthy balance of grit and glitter. We can do that too. Let Hoboken be Hoboken. Let DTJC be its own thing.

4. Like another poster said, these 99 cent stores have been there forever. Clearly they're filling a need (unless they're fronts for drug dealers. I dont know). We should focus on filling in the empty spots before talking about getting rid of existing businesses.

Like I said, just trying to explore both sides of the coin here. I've got no magic solutions on this one. But ultimately, the community will decide.


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haha. you people are funny. Okay, let me respond to some of these ridiculous posts

To MikeyTBC, you mentioned race - I never mentioned race in any of my posts. I don't care if you are white, asian, latino, black, martian - the act of shopping at these stores is cheap and cheapness and ghettoness brings down my property values, which is really all I care about and what all of you should care about.

Speaking of property values, you know why DTJC's priemer street, it's famed "restaurant row" should be more like streets in manhattan and washington street in hoboken? Simply put, the properties in those areas sell for more. You can come with the usual "blandness" "douchiness" "cookie-cutter" terms. They mean nothing in the real world because the bottom line is money and the fact is those places are worth more than our properties.

In comparing us to washington st in hoboken, just ask yourself these questions:

Are there more homeless people harassing people on washington street or newark ave?

Are there more abandoned properties/torn down/empty lots on washington street or newark ave?

Which properties, on average, cost more?

Where is there more of a nightlife at night? Where are NYCers more likely to go if they venture out of the city?

Is there a tv show based on a store in hoboken (cake boss) or one in dtjc?


Also, posting pics of one 99 cents tore in manhattan does nothing to prove your point user. There are literally 3-4 99 cent/discount cheapo stores within a 4 block radius on newark's famed restaurant row. Unacceptable




Posted on: 2013/8/2 15:06
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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Agreed on all fronts. I'm born and raised in JC, lived here most of my life and want to see it prosper. But pure gentrification is garbage and leads to hollow cities like Hoboken as the biggest example.

I'm on my neighborhood association and am trying to make positive changes, but it's difficult with so many transplants thinking they know what's best for a city they hardly know.



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Quick question: how many people on this thread lived in Jersey City 10 or more years ago?

There was a time when Hamilton Park was sad, neglected, and dangerous. Now that area commands some of the higher rents in downtown.

If you want a place that is 100% gentrified then move to Hoboken or Park Slope. JC is in transition, stop bitching about it, you're the one who moved here voluntarily. Maybe join or form a neighborhood watch or litter patrol or even better, open a business in one of the empty storefronts. Bunch of monday morning quarterbacks on here.

Also I would rather see the empty storefronts filled before we talk about axing existing businesses. Think about it - they close, nothing goes in, that is NOT going to "clean things up." It will move us backwards.

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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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So what stores did you have in mind? Pita Grill? Panera? Maxwells (sarcasm). Any ideas? Quote:
mendezia wrote: Not offended at all. I just have an opinion which happens to differ from yours. They sell garbage you can buy in 20 other stores throughough JC. They don't add anything to the neighborhood, and they are eyesores. I don't group Morlees with this bunch because the store actually cleaned up its act, put up a nice sign, and brings something different to downtown. We don't need a dozen nail salons and bodegas in one block.... Quote:
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nyrgravey9 wrote: I may not frequent the dollar stores, etc., but I agree that all upscale, shiny stores isn't the answer. The last thing I want is for DTJC to become Hoboken. Talk about a town that is so homogenous, uninteresting and lacking character...Hoboken is it!! I, along with many of my JC natives, avoid Hoboken at all costs. Don't let DTJC become another Hoboken!!!!
Yes, because the dollar stores and other shitholes really add some much "character" to the DTJC. >facepalm<
they don't promise character. they promise stuff for a dollar. some people in downtown need or want cheap stuff. sorry if that offends you.

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Re: City Council to combine fire, police departments in Jersey City
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PRECISELY.

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At Monday's caucus, Ward C Councilman Richard Boggiano, a former Jersey City police officer who ran independently, said he was against merging police and fire since the two departments don't get along. Boggiano did not attend tonight's meeting.


He is against merging because they don't get along. What is this, high school? These two departments are sucking a combined city-teet worth how many millions of dollars?

I could not find an exact number but very curious as i'm sure it's in the 100's of millions. Can anyone provide exact budget numbers for JCPD and JCFD?

Posted on: 2013/8/1 17:45
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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Precisely. Either Mendezia is from Hoboken and didn't like my comparison, or just clueless. Either way, if dollar stores and a little bit of grime keep DTJC from becoming the Douche mecca that is Hoboken, keep em coming! Quote:
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nyrgravey9 wrote: I may not frequent the dollar stores, etc., but I agree that all upscale, shiny stores isn't the answer. The last thing I want is for DTJC to become Hoboken. Talk about a town that is so homogenous, uninteresting and lacking character...Hoboken is it!! I, along with many of my JC natives, avoid Hoboken at all costs. Don't let DTJC become another Hoboken!!!!
Yes, because the dollar stores and other shitholes really add some much "character" to the DTJC. >facepalm<
they don't promise character. they promise stuff for a dollar. some people in downtown need or want cheap stuff. sorry if that offends you.

Posted on: 2013/8/1 17:41
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Re: Storefronts on Newark Ave
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I may not frequent the dollar stores, etc., but I agree that all upscale, shiny stores isn't the answer. The last thing I want is for DTJC to become Hoboken. Talk about a town that is so homogenous, uninteresting and lacking character...Hoboken is it!!

I, along with many of my JC natives, avoid Hoboken at all costs. Don't let DTJC become another Hoboken!!!!


Posted on: 2013/8/1 14:19
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Re: Journal Squared Project to Begin
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Maybe I'm missing something (always a possibility). Why are we so concerned with attracting new people to JC, we're incredibly densely populated as it stands.

Why aren't we just focusing on making it better for EXISTING residents?

We don't really need new people at all, unless the city is planning to replace those in abject poverty with tax payers, which would net out positive. But if we're talking about just attracting new residents, why?

Are rents not expensive enough (from a supply/demand standpoint)?

Posted on: 2013/7/31 16:02
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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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PBW...the other thread of which you speak was talking about fines, one of which was a fine the poster received for having a dog off leash. So, it was relevant to the topic.

Try again...

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This thread specifically addresses dogs off leash and owners who don't clean up after them. It's not an open forum to just gripe on any issue.

Stay on topic chief.



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Why you are trying to bring up off leash dogs in other threads.
Webmaster owns this thread, you do not.


Posted on: 2013/7/30 19:28
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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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They qualify it further with the "rough/dangerous" qualifiers, so like I said it's debatable. Either way, I don't do either, so doesn't concern me.

But like I said, if any of those things bother you or anyone else, there's always a forum for it. Start a thread, join a neighborhood association and make changes.

At the end of the day, I don't know what any of that has to do with the price of tea in china. This thread specifically addresses dogs off leash and owners who don't clean up after them. It's not an open forum to just gripe on any issue.

Stay on topic chief.



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debatable, But, if this concerns you, start an "open letter to volleyballers" thread. Go nuts, and god speed to you.



didn't we learn earlier in this thread that volleyball and any ball sports ARE illegal in JC parks except in approved ball playing areas?


I'm sort of just trolling here, but this is what someone posted:

Soccer playing outside designated areas is also breaking the law according to JC Ordinances:

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? 239-12. Picnic areas; camping; horseback riding.

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Take part in or abet the playing of any games involving thrown or otherwise propelled objects such as balls, stones, arrows, javelins or model airplanes except in areas set apart for such forms of recreation. The playing of rough or comparatively dangerous games such as football, baseball and quoits is prohibited except on the fields and courts or areas provided therefor. Roller-skating shall be confined to those areas specifically designated for such pastime.

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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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debatable, But, if this concerns you, start an "open letter to volleyballers" thread. Go nuts, and god speed to you.

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The Cesar comment was a joke papi!

But yes, when off leash volleyballers become illegal, we'll start a thread on that too. If the drinking bothers people, then those people should step up and do something about it. I don't disagree with that at all. Especially if those people leave empty bottles around and litter the park. Don't just complain about then, go get 'em!

Either way, the argument "why call out X, when Y occurs too" isn't an argument at all. One doesn't excuse the other. It's like when a kid gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar but says "yeah but that kid over there is writing on the wall". Both are wrong, and both should be dealt with.


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The volleyballers may not be illegal but the open containers a couple of them appeared to be drinking when I was there this weekend are illegal.

Not to mention the fact that the wiffle ball game that goes on now happens right in the middle of the park path. When anyone wants to walk down to the end of the park they had to walk into the middle of an active game with someone hitting a wiffle ball at them.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with any of these activities. They may dominate the park a bit, but they all seem to be an easy going group and it's nice to see people having fun in the park on a beautiful weekend.

PS - anyone actively involved in dog training knows that Cesar Millan's dominance training methods are outdated and potentially harmful.



didn't we learn earlier in this thread that volleyball and any ball sports ARE illegal in JC parks except in approved ball playing areas?

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Re: Maxwells in Hoboken Closing end of July
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Journey?? Really? I'm not as old as you think...

VA2015 said it perfectly, "People will always twist their nostalgia to reflect the heyday". Much like CBGB's, there were good shows here and there, but nothing to write home about. Not in the last 5 years anyway. If Maxwell's closed without the news coverage, hardly anybody would have noticed.

To your other question, I don't play shows in Hoboken. I play Manhattan, frequently.


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I'm constantly amazed at how eager some people are to display their ignorance on the interweb.

"Maxwell's hasn't put on a decent show in years."

Don't stop believin, nyrgravy, the Journey reunion is on its way!

PS: did you ever get to play at Maxwell's?

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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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The Cesar comment was a joke papi!

But yes, when off leash volleyballers become illegal, we'll start a thread on that too. If the drinking bothers people, then those people should step up and do something about it. I don't disagree with that at all. Especially if those people leave empty bottles around and litter the park. Don't just complain about then, go get 'em!

Either way, the argument "why call out X, when Y occurs too" isn't an argument at all. One doesn't excuse the other. It's like when a kid gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar but says "yeah but that kid over there is writing on the wall". Both are wrong, and both should be dealt with.


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The volleyballers may not be illegal but the open containers a couple of them appeared to be drinking when I was there this weekend are illegal.

Not to mention the fact that the wiffle ball game that goes on now happens right in the middle of the park path. When anyone wants to walk down to the end of the park they had to walk into the middle of an active game with someone hitting a wiffle ball at them.

Don't get me wrong, I have no problems with any of these activities. They may dominate the park a bit, but they all seem to be an easy going group and it's nice to see people having fun in the park on a beautiful weekend.

PS - anyone actively involved in dog training knows that Cesar Millan's dominance training methods are outdated and potentially harmful.


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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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Cesar Milan approves!! Hahahahaha

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Re: An open letter to the Dog Owners of DTJC (brace yourselves)
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Bubble, you can add a dog run to LSP, and the people in Paulus Hook would still go to Morris Canal.

"Wait, you mean I have to walk 3 blocks?? Get out of my face!"

I've been hearing of more tickets being issued. Anyone get hit yet?

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Re: Maxwells in Hoboken Closing end of July
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What's even funnier is how much attention this is getting. Maxwells hasn't put on a decent show in years.

Every story out there quotes people as saying "I remember this great show I saw, 7 years ago" or "way back in the day" which is the point.

Hoboken continues its evolution towards a completely homogenous and uninteresting town lacking any character whatsoever.


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Montgomery Greene is awesome and the office is beautiful too. Highly reviewed on Yelp if that helps.

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Re: Waterside "first date drinks" locale?
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Good girl. Avoid Hoboken at all costs. It's gotten worse since you left. The bourgeois attitude is at an all time high.

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Thanks for all the suggestions. I don't know this person at all. We were matched on a dating website and at this point I'm ready to bite the bullet. There's only so much introductory crap I am willing to share with someone I haven't looked upon in real life. It seems like Marc Anthony's and Surf City are the big winners, here, but I am shocked that there aren't more waterfront bars here by now. Don't want to go to Hoboken--ever.

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Re: Bayonne man robbed at gunpoint in Downtown Jersey City, police say
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One has to laugh at how PC these descriptions of criminals are. They failed to mention race in this one, very very helpful indeed.

Keep an eye out for three men 5 foot 9. There aren't many in this city!

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A Bayonne man who was sitting outside of Holland Gardens Apartments in Jersey City was robbed of $500 last night, police reports state.

The victim, 48, said that he was sitting in the courtyard outside of the apartments on 16th Street near Erie Street around 10:30 p.m. when four men passed him and exchange "greetings," reports state.

Minutes later, three of the four men returned, pushed the man against a short cement wall and said, "Give us everything you have," reports state.

One of the men then pointed a silver 9-mm handgun with a gold handle, police said.

The man surrendered between $400-$500 cash, three credit cards and his driver's license, reports state.

The men are described as being about 5-feet-9-inches tall. One man is described as between 18-19 years old with a thin build, short dreadlocks and wearing a dark-colored jacket, reports state. Another is described as 30-years-old with a medium build and short, black hair, reports state. The third man is described as being about 18 or 19-years-old, reports state.

Anyone with information is asked to call (201) 547-JAIL.

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eblanco is the man, LOL. Very funny analogy!

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