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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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One great thing about the dog run is that it's an attraction for small children. They can stand outside the fence and watch all the dogs without worrying about being licked or bowled over, and the parents can let the kids watch without worrying that the kids will harass the dogs.

The one thing I don't like is that VVP still doesn't have the equivalent of Basic at Hamilton Park: a small, family-friendly restaurant where small children can go to the bathroom in exchange for the parents buying a cup of coffee.

Another possibility: if those for-pay public bathroom kiosks work out in Manhattan, maybe someone could install one right outside the library.


The library is right next door and has bathrooms (and books) for kids.

There's also a Diner and Beechwood and Sweet Pricilla's cafe just two blcoks away in differnt directions - so whichever way you are headed that's only one block less convenient than BASIC. And the Jersey City museum is close by too.

Take that Hamilton park, whatcya got?

Posted on: 2007/3/28 15:28
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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ok rabbit, you did one of two things:

1) you moved to Jersey City, and bought a dog.

or

2) you owned a dog(s) and moved to Jersey City.

either way, you knew what they city had to offer regarding dog friendly environments/recreation, so why complain about anything at all? the VVP dog run is more than what the city had before. give parkman a break, and be happy you have atleast somewhere to bring your dog to now.

if you don't like the VVP run, than just deal with what you had before. exactly what you had when you moved here, which was, and still is, very little.

you can't squeeze blood from a stone, bro.

you love your dogs so much, such a priority for them to run and play.....move out to the suburbs.

these dog discussions make me crazy.


Friendly nieghbor.....to answer your multiple choice scenario, the answer is none of the above. I moved to jersey City and ADOPTED a dog (I would never BUY one). You ask me to deal with what i had before and I do. When the dog run is overcrowded, which it is frequently, we don't go. We walk elsewhere and that is fine. It's what we had before so I am more than cool with it. And when the dog run is less crowded, we enjoy it. And my dog enjoys it. And we talk to other users who also bitch and moan about the urine smell and the cruddy surface and the omnipresent signage (3 signs to explain the rules? please - it's overkill) and the lack of a promised drainage system.

as for moving to the burbs? please, don't be an ass.

i give kudo's to parkman for taking on this project. i would never have the guts or initiative to do so. therefore i didn't. but parkman knew that this would not be an easy project and that it would be a long, tedious process and that shit happens and not everyone is always pleased. in fact, i heard folks on the subway bitching and moaning that it sucks and they dont even have dogs. It's a public project and it's gonna be controversial. I am just pointing out the obvious. don't like it? don't read.

the fact that these dog discussions make you crazy is half the fun. if they make you crazy, don't read them. no-one is forcing you to turn your PC (or MAC) on and read a post by Rabbit Rabbit. But since you feel compelled to read my blatherings about dogs, read this: you're making me hot.

Posted on: 2007/3/28 14:35

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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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Parkie -- what's with the urine absorbing volcanic ash covered dog run? It smells liek a friggin litter box and it's not even summer yet. Guess you were sold a load of (turkish) shite.
Don?t use the run, keep the dogs on a leash while in the park, stay off the pet free areas, help me deal with crapkins, and we stay good enemies for life.

Maybe the lavender and roses we?ll be planting on May 5th (want to help?) will divert your sensitive orifices from what dogs in great numbers tend to produce in an enclosed space.


it's funny how the run became the hidden tool you have used to allow you to put up all the other signs int he park restricting usage. what the hell is with the 6 foot leash restriction. dickwad.

as for the urine smell comment - why do immediately retort with "don't use the run". you sound so defensive! i am just commenting that the super-surface you touted before you bought it as odor-absorbing seems to be odor retaining. funny how you get so uppity, you old mess. perhaps you should have done your homework...... and by the way, what's with the forgotten bluestone?
I?ve donated the last year of my life to build this run for the community and the park, why don?t you stop bitching and come help me. We don?t officially open till May 5th because we still have work to do, including $4,000 worth of plants that the Friends of VanVorst Park contributed and will plant around it?s perimeter. We will be resetting the bluestone, and install three benches in the run by that date.

The 6? leash restriction (without me resorting to name calling as you constantly do), is the law on the books; all these so called restrictions are not a ?hidden tool? of mine but rules and laws that have not, to date, been enforced; but they will be in VVP.

And as far as being defensive, try dedicating yourself to something you believe in and see how objective you become after making your best efforts and then have someone who hasn?t lifted a finger, made constructive suggestions or contributed financially and then does nothing but complain.

This run was never built to handle to handle the entire population of dogs in our community, that?s why it?s necessary to construct a much larger one in HP and find locations for dog populations in other wards in JC.

So your bitching is not over as you claimed, welcome back but now I have to change my signature.


Dude - you know it's all about the love. I'm just voicing the same things you think about. "damn - they told me that volcanic ash was gonna absorb the odor, but it doesn't seem to". You know I'm right. Nothing i have said here is incorrect - and nothing I have said here is my opinion alone. You know I love you, you old fart - but i simply don't love the fact that my dog was attacked yet again, the place smells like the men's room in grand central in the 70's (don't ask) and that my floors are covered with crap the dog drags in. Does my dog love the dog run? Absolutley. And for that i thank you.

Posted on: 2007/3/28 14:26
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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Parkie -- what's with the urine absorbing volcanic ash covered dog run? It smells liek a friggin litter box and it's not even summer yet. Guess you were sold a load of (turkish) shite.
Don?t use the run, keep the dogs on a leash while in the park, stay off the pet free areas, help me deal with crapkins, and we stay good enemies for life.

Maybe the lavender and roses we?ll be planting on May 5th (want to help?) will divert your sensitive orifices from what dogs in great numbers tend to produce in an enclosed space.


it's funny how the run became the hidden tool you have used to allow you to put up all the other signs int he park restricting usage. what the hell is with the 6 foot leash restriction. dickwad.

as for the urine smell comment - why do immediately retort with "don't use the run". you sound so defensive! i am just commenting that the super-surface you touted before you bought it as odor-absorbing seems to be odor retaining. funny how you get so uppity, you old mess. perhaps you should have done your homework...... and by the way, what's with the forgotten bluestone?

Posted on: 2007/3/28 3:13
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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Parkie -- what's with the urine absorbing volcanic ash covered dog run? It smells liek a friggin litter box and it's not even summer yet. Guess you were sold a load of (turkish) shite.

Posted on: 2007/3/27 21:47
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Re: Downtown Jersey City Rap label drug bust, 23 arrests
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Sanjaya was about to get a short back and sides land a record contract there

Posted on: 2007/3/21 19:34
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Re: Illegal dumping in city trash can caught on tape
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Frankly CCTV is a disgusting invasion of privacy and not particularly effective at preventing crime, only moderately successful at prosecuting people. If you want to really reduce crime, start with adding more beat police, remove minor crime offenders like panhandlers, install more outdoor lighting, and enforce strict gun control laws.


Get one of these on the park on WAYNE STREET

Posted on: 2007/3/8 21:16
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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Please note that no dogs over 25 pounds are allowed in the small dog run.


That's one rule i will not be following. I have two, one large pup type who wil stay in the big run , but one VERY old dog who can't play with the big boys as he is fairly frail and they play rough. It's the little dog run for me. We walk at seperate times and he will be using the small run. Look for me parkman, make a citizen's arrest. Dare ya.

Posted on: 2007/3/8 14:45
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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I can't believe it, has the hand of God touched RR wih these responses?



Jesus died for someone's sins but not mine

Posted on: 2007/3/7 23:29
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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bluedog wrote:
I'm coming late to the discussion but just to add my two cents, I think the divider makes sense. I have a small 15-pound dog who has been bitten twice by dogs three times her size. Both times the dogs got away from their owners and both times I really feared for my dog's life. And here's the funny part, both times the horrified owners declared they had no idea their dogs were capable of that.

If you have a bigger dog, I'm sure it doesn't matter whether there is a divider or not. But if you have a small dog, yes, it makes sense.


ok - if that's the real deal then i will agree to never bring up the division again. nobody wants to see a dog get attacked by another. so i will no longer be vocal on the split - at least in this board. HOWEVER, I would like to see the dividing fence have some capability to be opened when users wish for a full run and closed when people wish to have a seperate run. people are VERY cordial in the run - we are all friends. and if someone came in with a small dog and asked for it to be closed, they would get no grief. chances are it would stay seperate 98% of the time becuase everyone is so lazy, but there are dogs out there who like to run, and there are times when a LOT of dogs come out at once and it gets a little crowded. That might be a nice compromise. and by the way bluedog, it's not just the little k9s who get into a scuffle. I have a larger dog who has also been bitten by other dogs. sometimes dogs - like psople - just do't get along. sometimes it's a long conflict that lasts years and sometimes it's an intermittent arguement, like "give me back my ball." Still, if you or your dogs (and others in the area) feel better, well then, parkman, you have my blessing. I have completed my bitching.

Posted on: 2007/2/14 14:16
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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parkman - i hate to say this but i like the new gate and the fencing looks nice. friend sent me pictures from this afternoon.

so let's leave it at that and forget the divider, ok?

Posted on: 2007/2/14 5:41
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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I'll never use the dog run parkie, but I wouldn't waste my breath keeping certain individuals happy with a response.

You have an agreement on what people wanted months ago, so stick to it. If some people aren't happy then bad luck.


Grade: B+

Posted on: 2007/2/12 12:52
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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parkman wrote:
Oh, this one is fun..


Not half as fun as my reply.

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You have no choice but to capitulate, you?re wrong!


I have plenty of choices, PM. And I am not wrong. but i'll amuse you, lover.

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I always felt that the run was much too large for the size of our park, but I?m following what the community voted on, in the majority, including the division of the run.


that's your opinion. and i think the run is a great size for the park, but that if it's divided in two, both sides will be too small. you can't get me to change my mind. it is what it is. so save some of the precious money you can't seem to raise and forget about the middle fence. no one wants it. go take a poll with the people who are enjoying the dog run every morning, after work and at night. not many want your stupid divider. but if it goes up so bee it. i can still think it's too small and i can still voice my opinion. and i will . it's america, dude.

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As I?ve told you before, we will be replacing the trees that were removed due to them being diseased..


ha! we'll both be dead before that happens. a new tree will never survive in a pit of dog urine and you know it. and if those trees WERE diseased, you might as well take all the trees in VVP out. they all looked exactly the same. funny how the only ones removed were the ones "in the way" and they were removed juts BEFORE you started breaking ground. c'mon james patterson, write some more fiction.

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As I have also told you, the fence contractor will repair the damage the City caused to the garden fences, gratis, as a favor to us..


Well that would be a surprise and a nice one at that - but you never told me that. you only said that you, too, were dissappointed. good work, you old fossil.

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don't hate you, lover. but i do hate the surface and i think you and your cronies made a miserable choice. you obviously are not DOG OWNERS. the problems caused by that surface in cleanliness of our homes and dogs strips some of the bennies of park cosmetics. my dog threw that shit up this afternoon after chewing on a ball incased in it. you obviously couldnt have known, but who ever you hired should have. if i was Trump I would have fired you a long time ago.

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Next time, you try dealing with the City and get something completed on time. You?re fortunate that it has gotten this far..


I don't start something I can't finish. And I am certainly smart enough not to think I could get something of that magniture done in JC with this f'd up government. You're either a moron for taking this on, or a martyr.

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Standing by you?re comments, puts you on one leg..


I don't really understand that comment, but you spelled "you're" wrong.

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And, last but certainly not lest , you would be so lucky!


Ditto. If you can still rise to the occasion.

Posted on: 2007/2/12 5:01
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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no capitulation.

just that my dog likes it and that makes me happy. still he is dirtier than he was before the run. he won't pick up a ball cause all that grit is all over it. and he shits the stuff the surface is made of (recycling?). and i don't think it'll be good for him. but i could be wrong.

let me be clear so no-one thinks i am back peddling.

i originally thought the run should be in a less used quadrant of the park.
i do not think it should be split in two cause i think both sections will be too small.
i hate that trees came down in the making of the run.
i hate that the city crushed garden fences in building the dame thing.
i hate the surface.

and i doubted it would ever get made. on that i admit my error (although it took far longer than promised and still aint done.)

i stand by ALL my comments.

and that you might be one of the best lays i;'ve had in a long time.

Posted on: 2007/2/12 2:35
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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parkman wrote:The surface in the VVP run is the same product being recommended by the Parks Dept. of NY, 2 large dog organizations in Manhattan, and is presently in the 72nd st. and Thomson Sq. parks.
Although the reccomendation may be true, that shite is not used in the west 72nd street run, nor is it used in the Thompson Sq. Park run. Both are soil and woodchips, sucka.
Now you?re calling me a liar? I physically went to the 72nd. St. run during our research period and have the picture to prove this is the identical surface used there. We ordered from the same supplier and received the same material. They used neither soil nor wood chips, what they didn?t do was make the surface deep enough and the landscape material below is being dug up by the dogs. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
ok PM, i'll give you this one. i havent been to that run since late 2005, and it was dirt and hay (yes, hay) back then. i guess the trump plaza residents on the west side highway complained. but pictures can be altered and since i work up that way, i'll take a peek myself and report back. so - where's the picture of tompkins sq. dog run. i BET that's still woodchips. either way - the surface still sux. but i'm enjoying bringing my dog there. so you aint all that bad for an old fool.

Posted on: 2007/2/12 2:18
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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Oh it is OVER, Rabbit. Yes indeed. Miss me.

Where is NON?


1. Something I said?
2. Like I care.

Posted on: 2007/2/11 18:21
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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jennymayla wrote:
RabbitRabbit, you know I harbor quite the crush on you but ENOUGH. It is unfair to blame the new dog park for your friend's situation without knowing all the details. It sounds horrible and I am sorry it happened to your friend's dog but it could be blamed on several things, not just the new dog park.

And it's even worse to constantly imply that Parkman and Parkman alone is responsible for every single little eensy teensy thing you dislike about this new dog run. First it was funny but now it's not. Honestly, it is completely unfair and you should knock it off. PLEASE.

In the meantime, Parkman, it seems silly to close the dog park until the next rain or hose-down. If people don't like it, people don't have to use it. I like it and my dog likes it and there seem to be quite a few other people who like it too. Plus it's easier to wipe off the gravel dust from the dog park than the goose sh*t from Liberty State Park.

Have a nice day.


listen you little thing... i never meant it to be funny. glad you were amused but that was never the point. And the friend's dog's eye condition is DIRECTLY and SOLELY attributable to that stuff. It was IN THE DOG's EYE just as it is in my dog's CRAP and MOUTH. you know not of what you speak.

I like the run as well - as does my dog - and am doing my part by cleaning up crap left by other owners and the like (probably you). lots of dogowners are there all times of the day - and we talk - and no-one I have spoken to is enamored with the idea of splitting the run or of the dusty, crappy top-surface that Parkman was suckered into buying.

Of course I don't blame him SOLELY. It's just more fun that way since I have no-one else to blame. That doesn't make my arguement any less signifigant, or your amusement and more befuddling.

And as for your comment, "If people don't like it, people don't have to use it," the same can be true of my posts. Don't like what I say, skip over to the next moron. Your choice.

There. Did I kill your crush on me yet? You don't have the right pipes anyway. Parkman has a better chance of getting a piece of the Rabbit - and I've seen Parkman, so that puts things in persepective.

Besides, you have a vag and you know where I stand on that.

Posted on: 2007/2/11 18:10
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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parkman wrote:The surface in the VVP run is the same product being recommended by the Parks Dept. of NY, 2 large dog organizations in Manhattan, and is presently in the 72nd st. and Thomson Sq. parks.


Although the reccomendation may be true, that shite is not used in the west 72nd street run, nor is it used in the Thompson Sq. Park run. Both are soil and woodchips, sucka.

Posted on: 2007/2/11 18:02
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Re: Van Vorst Park---Dog Run
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and hats off to the wonderful dog run, which seems to be bringing much business (now and in the future to area vets). My next door nieghbor, a nice woman with a really sweet dog, was so excited to have soemwhere to take her dog off leash. she is too old to chase it otherwise and refused to let it loose inthe park before. the dog has gotten a horrible eye infection and the vet - not sure which one, says that the dusts and debris, probably attributable to the new surface, is the cause.

i still don't know why, with so many nieghboring dog runs to use as examples, parkman chose this surface. there are surfaces in NY that are plain dirt, wood chips, concrete, small gravel..... none of those cause me to have to wipe the dog down before going bank into the hoouse, scrap a pair of work shoes cause they are filthy, or take the dog to the vet and incurr unforeseen medical expenses (not me yet, but rue the day).

the dogs love it. but the dogs would have loved to run on other, btetter surfaces. parkman, sho sold you on this flawed product? it sucks.

Posted on: 2007/2/11 14:58
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Re: Van Vorst Park---You're on notice!
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Can we get back to how the topic at every instance of visiting the dog run is:

a: how the dogrun is a great size for the dogs to run
b: how we will do what we can to keep dogs off the grasses, unles they cant exercise in the run after it's chopped up
c: how bo-one, even the little dog people want to see it chopped up
d: how the surface has already ruined shoes casue its so dusty and how people are takingthier dog to the groomers more to wash them casue that shit is everywhere
e: how one person found the grit in her dogs irritated eye and poop.
and lastly,

how the local stray cats are using it for a litter box!

Posted on: 2007/2/10 18:27
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Re: Van Vorst Park---You're on notice!
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Kindelan wrote:
First let me say that I am a dog lover. My girlfriend is also a dog lover who is currently mourning the loss of her beloved mutt. But we both think the dog run in VVP is WAY TOO BIG for the park that it occupies. The thing is about the same size as the one in Washington Square Park in the city but WSP is a much bigger park. You took out the nice grass and picnic tables to put in this monstrosity???


Don't get me wrong if the community wants a dog-run--fine but aesthetically doesn't everyone see that this dog run dominates terribly the space that it is in? I think it could have been about half the size.


it's no where near as big as the one in washington square park. i couldn't throw a ball from one end of that run to the next. in VVP i could toss a whiffle ball over the fence no prob.

Posted on: 2007/2/9 22:37
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Re: Wireless Internet - Steven Fulop
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would you trust your internet connection to city hall? they can't even trim a tree, pick up trash or fill a pothole.

this will be another mismanaged project.

Posted on: 2007/1/21 15:42
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Re: Jersey City's Parks and Open Space Master Plan
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not mellowing - just not interested in Pavonia. you know i am all about the brownstones. now get that dog run finished.

Posted on: 2007/1/18 5:53
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Re: Jersey City's Parks and Open Space Master Plan
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parkman wrote:If you pass up this opportunity, you will be accepting T&M?s design and will not be able to effect any changes once implemented.


and if you make suggestions, please don't think that ANY of them will be considered. Proof point = VVP Dog Run

Posted on: 2007/1/17 23:46
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Re: Price reduced for that one family from $9 mil to $6.5 mil OR $32,000 per month ( Brunswick at 1
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offer wont go above $2mill if that. it's a turd outside with trump inside. i wouldnt want to stay the night - and i am a slut.

Posted on: 2006/12/31 21:21
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Re: COMING SOON: STRAINS ON JC POWER GRID, SEWAGE, ROADS AND TRASH
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maybe it was trash day?

Posted on: 2006/12/7 19:33
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Re: COMING SOON: STRAINS ON JC POWER GRID, SEWAGE, ROADS AND TRASH
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I'm thinking of finally buying a condo next year, back in Downtown (since prices will likely be friendier by then).


don't count on it. new york metro area, of which we are a part, bounces back from every real estate burst faster than the rest of the nation. if you like the place and you plan to stay, buy.

Posted on: 2006/12/7 19:26
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Re: Steven Fulop - Newark Avenue Update
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re-naming is silly. ever hear of newark, DE? or newark, OH?


no

Posted on: 2006/11/21 16:28
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Re: The City Hall Gang: Shouting, shoving, then they're all smiles
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the sad part is that these a-holes could have had their meetings and subsequent fights in a Jersey City Hotel and kept some of their monies here at home supporting local business. The waitresses they tipped would have been most likely from JC and they could have all walked home, beaten and battered, and saved the city from coughing up the hotel bills.

Parkman should be plenty peeved and Fulop for participating in this moeny wasting frat party.

Posted on: 2006/11/18 18:06
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Re: New York magazine article on downtown Jersey City
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Maybe they need to include a JCList glossary as a sidebar. First entry being crapkins, obviously.


coined by RABBITRABBIT don't forget

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