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I'm sorry but merging the FD and PD is not a financially sound idea. If each department were cross trained to begin with, I would say it is feasible - like federal park rangers cross trained in LE, structural firefighting, wildland firefighting, HAR, SAR, and HAZMAT. But they have received the training up front.
The amount of time and money necessary to train the FD in PD operations and vice versa far outweigh any potential benefits. Aside from the initial training, then the new FF's and LEO's will have to undergo in field training. I think it puts the employee and the public more at risk. Also, will the FD have to start carrying long arms in their rigs, wear tactical gear and then have to change out when there is a fire? Will the PD be required to carry bunker gear in the cars and change out of their tactical gear when the get to a fire? I don't know how the Benton Harbor operates its FD or how much understanding Mr. Harris has of that operation, but I know in NYC and JC the FD doesn't just sit around all day waiting for a call. Building and hydrant inspections are supposed to b done, in service training is supposed to be done, and yes while sitting at the fire house maintaining the equipment, maintaining physical conditioning, and equipment rehabbing is done. Are there times when some FF's are just sitting around and relaxing. You bet. Dealing with what they have to deal. with day in and day out, they deserve some time to decompress
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Only 142 at 5 pm at Grace Church downtown.
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I found this on the NJ Statutes website. This question has been raised before and no one has been able to provide an answer.
Does Jersey City impose some other regulation regarding parking near crosswalks, stop signs, etc, or does the city just adhere to 39:4-138 e(1) and h? If JC has it's own regulation, what is it and can someone provide the specific reference to the municipal code? 39:4-138.6� Municipal authority to set certain permissible parking distances. 2.A municipality may mandate by ordinance the permissible distance a person may park a motor vehicle from a crosswalk, side line of a street or intersecting highway, or "stop" sign.� A municipality may not, however, permit parking within 25 feet of a crosswalk or side line of a street or intersecting highway or within 50 feet of a "stop" sign in a school zone during hours when school is in session. L.2009, c.257, s.2.
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I found this under JC municipal code:
Chapter 332 - VEHICLES AND TRAFFIC ARTICLE III - Parking, Standing and Stopping ? 332-22. - Parking prohibited at all times. [Amended 4-28-2010 by Ord. Nos. 10-058, 10-059; 6-23-2010 by Ord. No. 10-079] No person shall park a vehicle at any time upon any of the streets, or parts thereof, listed below. Third St North Brunswick Av to Newark Av I'm not sure if this is where you parked.
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I watched the white tow truck hook up and tow away a car yesterday morning in like 5 seconds. There was no way that someone called about the car unless it was a spotter. The tow didn't even slow as if to verify it was the correct vehicle - just pulled up, turned, backed up, snatched, and drove off.
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I like to call it debating. You raise points and I either agree or disagree and debate on a point by point basis. Am I looking for a right answer? No. Am I looking for a wrong answer? No. I am just giving you my point of view from my experience and my facts. Am I right and you wrong or vice versa? No. Do I want to stir controversy? No. Am I frustrated? Yes, at the unresponsive and contemptuous JC government. Am I actually trying to get influence change in JC policy and government this through this medium know as JCList? You've got to be kidding me. Do I, like so many other people, old timers and newcomers, come here to complain and vent full knowing that I will get responses ranging from sympathetic to outright disingenuous and uncalled for? Yes. Quote:
Interestingly, when my wife moved to JC, her vehicle was registered to her parents, and she provided the deed for her residence and various bills. The JCPA would only give her a temp permit with 30-days to register the vehicle with the current address and the vehicle registered in her name. Quote:
When they ticket resident vehicles at 6:30 AM and don't ticket the vehicle with a police shield in the windshield, yes they are out to get the resident and exhibit favoritism towards a fellow law enforcement officer over residents. Enforcement has recently had nothing to do with preserving parking and is all about increasing the money in the city's coffers. The JCPA and PD hide this new ticketing campaign under the guise of public safety, but the JCPA admitted to taking a hit when alternate side was canceled for two months and neither the JCPA or PD had such aggressive enforcement done before for the same violations. Only time will be the judge when we see if this steeped up enforcement continues when their pockets are overflowing. Quote:
I never asked for changes. I am just pointing out discrepancies in policy and enforcement and just would like some consistency across the board. Believe you me, I know more about trying to implement changes in government than I would care to know. Let's just call it an occupational hazard for me. Quote:
I have no problem paying my fair share of taxes and I am happy for you when taxes didn't go up for years. I don't appreciate my taxes going up 333% in 7 years and getting lousy services in the form of policing, education, waste management, infrastructure, and non transparent corrupt government. Quote:
I am not cranking up with the masses. As I have said these are my personal experiences. Maybe if so many people are "cranking up" with the same bad experiences it is actually JC that is making things worse for the residents. Are there people out there with a sense of entitlement? You bet. Are there people that like the status quo? You bet.
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Ok, somehow I don't think that the owners of the KY or NY vehicles with the permits for Zone 5 of all places work here. They are more than likely residents. Also, just what states are these people traveling great lengths from to park illegally in NJ? NYC folks that work in JC won't want to hazard the traffic of Manhattan to get into JC. CT folks wouldn't either. Pennsylvania types typically take the Martz buses. And the cars I see with the NH and ME plates probably aren't commuters either. What I find in the mornings and find more believable are other JC residents from other parts of JC and NJ state residents from outside of JC parking downtown and hopping on the PATH into NYC. I don't think that the great influx of vehicles with NJ tags in the morning in Zone 5 that disappear by the time I get home from work belong to residents and they certainly don't belong to employees at the waterfront.
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I don't condone what Healy's son did, nor am I going to debate how much firefighters should get paid, however I wouldn't call the firefighter physical exam basic. If it was so basic, everyone would be doing it to collect the salary.
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Like I said, I would actually expect an increase in weekends. And two of those eight cars with out of state plates have resident parking permits. How does a KY and a NY registered vehicle get a resident permit? And yes the license on the permit matched the license on the vehicle.
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So what you are saying is that if you are not visiting residents, you should not be in JC for more than two hours. That's a great way to generate revenue for JC businesses. And remember don't keep your car in a zone for more than 2 hours because even if you move your car to another spot within the zone, you can get ticket. Quote:
Now that is a reasonable answer, but I would hope that if someone were buying permits on a regular interval someone in the JCPA would have enough common sense to realize that there is probably something else going on. Quote: The next question is a bit tricky.... But here you go... I believe it is because in the past there have been people who have not exactly followed the rules. They have gone into the JCPA and bought visitor permits and didnt have an valid paperwork but paid for the permits with a personal check . Believe it or not people have bounced checks for $3.00 or $6.00 and without valid paperwork the JCPA has no way to collect what is owed. Cash is not an option and Im sure you can understand why. So paying withmoney orders is the best option. Actually, cash is acceptable for visitor permits but there is a limit as to how many you can purchase with cash. So the only thing I understand is that the JCPA is probably pocketing money in small amounts. And if the JCPA can keep track of all of our violations, why not keep track of who has been bouncing checks and make those people pay with money orders. Quote:
Should I have asked while I was there? Yes. Did I? No, because it didn't cross my mind as I was so annoyed that I had to pay a fee for a money order in order to pay the JCPA in an alternate method. And just as an aside, in the seven years I have been here, every time I have called the JCPA or asked a JCPA employee a question while I was there in person, I have always been given misinformation. I have even called three days in a row and asked a question about parking regulations and have been given three different conflicting answers. I think the JCPA should be disbanded and the JCPD can enforce the parking regulations llike they do anyhow. Even better, let's roll up the JCPA into a separate department within the JCPD so it is no longer an autonomous agency and is more accountable to the people of JC. Somehow I think that would save JC some money as overhead costs should decrease. Hmmmm, kind of like the NYC Parking Enforcement Agents getting rolled in with the NYPD. Oh wait, why should we follow the lessons learned from another city because we like doing things our own way.
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No, booting was done on a first violation basis for many years up until recently. My sister-in-law's ex-boyfriend was parked on Jersey Ave and was booted after his first offense. It was probably because he had NY plates and the JCPA thought it was an easy target. I'd have to do some searching around the threads but I know other people had been booted on their first violation. Wasn't the JCPA ordered to reimburse the boot fee for those that were improperly booted? On my way back from doing laundry, I took a quick notice of how many out of state cars are packed in a five block area around my part of downtown. It is the weekend so I would expect a greater number of out-of-state vehicles here. I counted 8 cars with non-NJ plates and two of them, one with a KY plate and one with a NY plate, had resident parking permits that expire sometime in the next eight months. I would bet that these cars belong to residents and not non-JC residents that work here. Again, I don't see this huge number of out-of-state vehicles parked in downtown. Maybe if the JCPA could provide numbers in the form of a study rather than conjecture of how many out-of-state vehicles are actually illegally parked, as as well as how many within state vehicles that are illegally parked, I would give this notion of millions of dollars lost some more credibilty. I don't understand how a 3 FTA violations takes month and a 2 FTA process takes weeks. So you still haven't won me over with this being a big issue rather than the JCPA going down rabbit holes.
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I propose the city establish the Jersey City Feral Cat Authority (JCFCA), an autonomous agency whose function would be to register and license all feral cats within the city, corralling feral cats into designated Urban Feral Cat Zones (UFCZ's), and provide food, shelter, and domesticating programs for those feral cats trying to get back on their feet. Agents would be provided with the latest Cushman, catnip, and 5 cans of Friskies cat food.
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From CRS Report for Congress Federal Law on Parking Privileges for Persons with Disabilities "State law generally governs parking privileges for people with disabilities. However, federal regulations offer a uniform system of parking privileges, which includes model definitions and rules regarding license plates and placards, parking and parking space design, and interstate reciprocity. The federal government encourages states to adopt this uniform system. As a result, most states have incorporated at least some aspects of the uniform regulations into their handicapped parking laws." From briefly skimming the report and your link, I don't see a federal parking law. The federal government has a set of regulations and guidelines that states can adopt, but there is no federal law or any CFR that specifically indicates that someone can receive a ticket for improperly parking in a handicapped space. Those are laws developed by states and local municipalities.
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I went to renew my permit the other day at the JCPA and while I was there decided to pick up some visitor parking permits. Can anyone answer these questions for me?
Why can you pay with a personal check when picking up a resident parking permit, but are forced to use a money order when picking up visitor permits? Fortunately, the USPS is right next door, but frankly I find it ridiculous that the JCPA forces the public to use two different forms of payment. Both forms of payment should be acceptable for either type of permit. Also, if you are picking up a visitor permit, why do you have to provide proof of residency? What if I was just a person visiting JC just for visiting JC and had no other ties to the city? Why can't any random person just walk in and pick up a visitor permit?
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Pardon my ignorance, but exactly what parking violations violate federal law? Quote: Here is a kick for all who have there vehicles parked and registered in NJ.... Ready......... Um, not really news. And until recently, the JCPA was booting first time offenders, with in-state and out-of-state plates. And maybe I'm the only one, but I really don't see an unusually high amount of vehicles with out-of-state plates parked downtown. Sounds to me like JCPA is trying to do something about a non-issue. And just what changes would the JCPA request in the ordinance? Report them to out-of-state DMV's? They can report these scofflaws, but since the JCPA has no jurisdiction outside of JC, why would out-of-state DMV's even care? There is no financial benefit to out-of-state DMV's. Why would they suspend a driver's license or vehicle registration for out of state violations? Again, it's the JCPA trying to do something about a non-issue. Interestingly, I have noted that what out-of-state vehicles I have seen, they have had valid JCPA parking permits. Don't you need to have a vehicle registered in NJ before the JCPA will even consider giving a non-temporary permit?
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Law and parking enforcement agents should use discretion when issuing tickets for violations. However, JCPD and JCPA don't use discretion, but rather favoritism. I posted in another thread that a few weeks ago I watched JCPD write tickets for 7 of 8 vehicles parked too close to the corner on Jersey Ave and First Street at 6:30 in the morning. Vehicle number 8 had a police shield in the windshield -one of those big shield with the three suction cups affixing it to the windshield. Worst of all, this car was actually parked in the crosswalk. The end result was no ticket issued. Quote:
You don't seem to understand. Getz011 isn't asking for a definition of discretion. He'd like the municipal code code regarding Jersey City be posted in an easily accessible place for the public. This way the public is informed as to what is legal and illegal and the enforcement agencies aren't applying the law unequally.
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Maybe the solution would be that the city works with local hardware stores to make sure that certain style and types of recycling bins with appropriate markings (i.e. recycling symbol, plastics only, paper only, etc) are stocked, then pass a ordinance requiring all buildings buy and utilize these bins, and then fine people that don't.
Will this just lead to people throwing garbage into public trash receptacles? Probably. Will this just lead to people throwing their trash in with their next door neighbors? Probably. Does the city have enough capability and coordination to find a way to undertake this effort without cost to the taxpayers? probably not. After all, didn't you say that this city was incapable of properly managing a Girl Scout cookie fundraiser. Actually the city would be able to manage one, but somehow it would always show a negative profit, the Girl Scouts would be forced to buy cookies from some friend, relative, or contributor to the city council, and the head girl scout would be pulling down a $100K a year job with city pension (and, of course, this would be the leader's third taxpayer paid pension).
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The above does not specifically refer to plastic shopping bags - it refers to all plastic bags. In NYC, plastic/metals are placed in clear blue plastic bags. Our building used to have a paper recycling bin that we placed outside that was clearly marked as a recycling bin, but after getting stolen and/or thrown out with the trash we no longer place the bin outside and consolidate using twine, cardboard boxes, or paper bags. Quote:
Our building separates the regular garbage, plastics, and paper/cardboard into three separate piles. The only reason collectors don't pick items up is because of laziness. I have watched them just pick a few bags and move along. No whistling or yelling from the supervisor involved. People need to take responsibility for themselves. A government provided bin does not necessarily equate to people becoming responsible.
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Here is the part you you complain about the comments. I don't think there is a need for the city to find some other reason to tax us more for the few services we get for the high taxes we pay. I already stated why I don't think it was a good idea as from my observations, and those of many other jclisters, the good people of JC would just increase their improper methodology of disposing garbage. Do I have any solution? To what? I don't see that there is a problem to be solved. You posted an idea, a lot of us disagree. Move on. If you don't want comments, DON'T ASK FOR THEM! EDIT - Oh and just how will charging for excessive garbage equal less dog excrement all over the sidewalk?
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Yeah, but unfortunately this is not Ithaca and it is Jersey City. People already throw their personal garbage into the few existing already overflowing public trash receptacles. I just watched some woman two nights ago drop her garbage into a public trash can. Why didn't I take a photo of her? Because I was getting out of my car as I came home from work and don't carry a camera with me 24-7 (and no the camera on my phone wouldn't have provided a quality image at that distance for positive identification from a legal standpoint). Did anyone else in the immediate area notice or even care? No. And I have had to confront my neighbors who seem to think it is perfectly normal piling all of their trash with ours. They claim creating a mound in front of my building is for the benefit of the trash collectors so they have one collection point and fail to realize that I don't like having a 20 foot long by 4 foot long and 4 foot wide landfill in front of my building, aside from the fact that we will get the ticket for whatever violations they could be guilty of. So no, I do not think it is a good idea to start charging for excessive garbage.
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JCPD was out at 6:30 am for 3 days in a row on Jersey Ave about 2 weeks ago ticketing all the cars that were parked too close to the intersection. I'd be happy about this if they didn't skip the cars with police shields in their windshields.
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Where did you find all of this information?
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This May 26, 2010 article about red light cameras in Glasboro, NJ has a section on how RLC's are supposed to work. No guarantee that they have been set up correctly in JC and that you won't get a ticket. Knowing JC, you'll get a ticket it, fight it, and lose. I wish you luck in not getting one at all. Red Light Cameras in N.J.: Improved public safety, and a revenue source for towns Here's the section of note for those that don't want to read the entire article: The cameras work in conjunction with sensors that are set up in the intersection which automatically triggers the video cameras when vehicles are going through the red lights. The sensors then trigger the cameras to provide three separate pictures from the intersection: * One shows the vehicle crossing the stop bar painted at the intersection. * The second shows the vehicle crossing the bar. * The third shows the license plate picture for ticketing purposes. According to the officials, some of the common misconceptions and fears that motorists have regarding the red light cameras are: * A common misconception about the technology is that the triggering mechanism is activated on the yellow light. If a driver is stuck in an intersection and the light changes, they will not get a ticket. * All four tires have to be behind the stop line for the system to trigger itself, not half way through, not two or three tires or one, but all four. * Violations are sent to the motorist that is registered as owner by the Motor Vehicle Authority. A recipient of the fine is not penalized with any points, their driving record is not blemished and there is no effect on insurance. * If a car stops for a right turn on red intersection and then swings around at one speed, then they will get a ticket. * If the car stops at a right turn on red intersection, and a driver does their due diligence to stop and then go, there won't be a ticket issued.
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Dear Mercyme,
Please provide answers to the following: Quote: does anybody know what happaned in Paulus Hook last night around 10:00 through 1:00 a.m. I was walking my dog and saw undercover cops busting about 3 black men and puting them in an unmarked car - then took off with sirens blazing. Can you describe on and off? Every 5 minutes for three hours? Every 15 minutes? Once every hour? Were you walking you dog for three hours? Quote: If you read what I wrote - I SAW the police cars and SAW people getting arrested. Did you see the police cars responding to the same place for 3 hours? Did you see police cars for three hours or see them for a bit and hear them for the rest of the three hours? Please explain the differences between police, ambulance, and fire sirens and your proficiency in identifying each by sound only. If you were out for three hours, why didn't you just ask the police what was going on? Quote: I am renting - i thank God I never bought here - its very dark and scary - and there is a certain bad element that is coming back out now that the weather isn't freezing.... Why are you happy that you didn't buy here? What certain bad element are you referring to? Where did they go when it was freezing? Does the bad element hibernate? Please cite specific sociological and scientific references when answering. Quote: I simply asked what happened. A bunch of arrogant snots on this site - I have lived here for years - but when a bunch of dregs of society come into my neighborhood, I want to know what's going on. Please define dregs of society and their identifying features. I think everyone here would like to make sure they can properly identify dregs when they come in contact with them. I don't know who "THESE" people are. Please be more specific. Who are they? Quote: Yeah - not backpeddling; trying to be ironic; but again, what the actual IQ level is versus what you all think you are, is a big difference. Please use proper grammar and syntax when answer the questions. Define the word ironic and how you used irony in your previous posts. What is the IQ of each person that responded in this forum? Explain what methodology you have used to ascertain their IQ. Please provide analysis and references to support your arguments. Why wouldn't you call the police for an explanation as that would be the easiest, simplest, and most logical means to determine the nature of the incident? LOL is not an acceptable answer. Please explain more explicitly. What exactly is your IQ? What is your occupation? What is your age? What is your annual income? These last questions are for statistical purposes only and will not be used to form any opinion of you.
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Sawadee, More, and Box are all owned by the same people.
Posted on: 2011/3/1 23:51
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I've never experienced the pleasure of being towed out of the Shoprite parking lot, but I've read somewhere on this site, maybe even in this thread, that JCPD indicates that there is nothing they can do and that the car owners have to pay. Anyone know if this has changed or is inaccurate?
Posted on: 2011/2/22 14:29
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Re: Downtown: 30 Chinese immigrant men living in "firetrap" conditions
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Okay, I'll bite. Why does it make any difference that it is right by a school?
Posted on: 2011/2/13 16:57
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Re: HUGE GAS PIPELINE COMING - through Jersey City
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Is it me or do we seem to hear about a gas explosion in the news once a week? If that is rare, I'd sure hate to see commonplace.
Posted on: 2011/2/11 16:32
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