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Re: Jersey City bursting at seams with population surge
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The density around town was tremendously higher, because half of what we consider DT wasn't just lower density,it was railyards and docks.


After the invasion of Japan got cancelled, my Dad received extended leave from the Army. He stayed in Jersey City with a squad mate of his in a Polish section of the city (from his description, I think it was around the Marion section).

He commented on how packed the place was with people, which being a kid from a Colorado farm, was a bit off-putting. The other thing he mentioned was that the sky was so thick with smog / smoke that the upper parts of the Pulaski Skyway would be rendered invisible in the airborne muck.


It's hard to imagine when all these houses were heated by coal, and the city was ringed by factories burning coal too. Ever hear of the great London Smog of 1952 that killed 4k people? There was also a 1966 New York City smog. These were seminal events of the air quality movement. I know you're pretty conservative, but these are the kind of regulations your party is against.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_New_York_City_smog

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Posted on: 2018/11/20 13:30
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Re: Leaving Jersey City Troll List
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Who else would be in the Jclist hall of fame?

Robin.


Makes me sad that the archives of those days are gone, every time a Nimby rears their ugly head I'd love to be able to link to the hysterical predictions of the coming Home Depot causing a traffic apocalypse. The battles with the HP dog people who were against constructing a dog run because they considered the entirety of the park their dog run were epic. Now it's just oral history, like the Trojan War.

Posted on: 2018/11/19 21:58
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Re: Jersey City bursting at seams with population surge
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Peak population 1930 316,000. Dwindled to 223,000 in 1980. Now estimated at 270,000. Probably population was spread out more evenly in 1930, but now the downtown area is littered with 50 story buildings increasing density in 07302.


The density around town was tremendously higher, because half of what we consider DT wasn't just lower density,it was railyards and docks. It's hard to get reference, but HP is just a hair above and left from dead center.

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Posted on: 2018/11/19 16:31
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Re: Worst traffic ever
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I think more need to question why they're driving in a snowstorm. I was supposed to run an errand yesterday afternoon, but I said screw it, it's not an emergency. Too many people think "yes, this is why I have my sexy SUV, so I can go out in any weather!" But those little cute ute's don't have the weight or handling for it, and their drivers don't have the skills.

Posted on: 2018/11/16 12:19
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Re: Leaving Jersey City Troll List
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However, I must confess that I just can't figure out how people have the time to contribute their voices thousands and thousands of times. There's a poster here with over nine thousand contributions.

Do the math--it's incredible.


Depends on when they joined. I have over 5k, but it averages to once a day over 14 years.

Posted on: 2018/11/16 12:14
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Re: Leaving Jersey City Troll List
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I just looked and there's a "New" tab that lists them in reverse chronological order. I don't see any gaming.


I'm just recently exploring it, it lists new topics but does not list topics by new posts like every forum software out there, and inside a topic, even if you hit "NEW" it still threads it, so you can't just see what the new posts are. It's playing the same popularity and social media acceleration games that FB does, making the "hottest" most voted up posts most visible. I remember back on the old Digg how gaming that by logrolling was brought to a fine art.

Posted on: 2018/11/15 21:28
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Re: Leaving Jersey City Troll List
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Meh., As you say Robin no great loss, and this site is obviously dying anyway. Sad thing is I hate the formats of both Nextdoor and Reddit. The former is too primitive for extended threads and hard to read, the latter can't simply list the newest posts without trying to gamify it. I don't do FB.

Posted on: 2018/11/15 18:56
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Re: JC v Hudson County (debt)
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This is why Yvonne is numerically illiterate. She has no idea how to compare apples to apples. She simply throws stuff at people like a monkey throwing it's shit, hoping to get a reaction. There's actually data out there, we're not best, below average, but far from the worst.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01 ... nces-116-US-Cities-Ranked

Posted on: 2018/11/14 20:57
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Re: New Amazon HQ
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Thankfully NYC just passed a measure to get all the old, white NIMBYs off their community boards (term limits), so it should be easier to get more stuff built in the future. Hopefully Jersey City does the same and completely neuters the NA's and Yvonnes in the future.


Have you ever attended or joined a JC NA? JC NA's have nowhere near the power of NYCs CB's. They have no official powers but are simply nonprofit orgs, while CBs are essentially a part of city govt. NA's only power is being organized and getting heard. There have been several times to my knowledge there have been competing NA's in the same area.

Posted on: 2018/11/14 11:49
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Re: New Amazon HQ
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I had a client make almost the exact same move. My travel time nearly doubled. So did my travel costs.

"Fighting you way through the streets?" Really?

Try DTJC to 21st & 21st in LIC vs 8th & 39th in googlemaps. Only a few minutes different. YMMV. And yes, trying to walk through the fucking gawking tourists between Herald sq and Times Sq is like combat.

The extra cost is what it is, but there's much worse commutes entirely within NYC. There's even parts of Astoria & Jackson Heights that would take about 40 min to get to the LIC waterfront, but cost a lot more than DTJC. And if you're trying to get to your weekend house in the hills, add at least an hour driving, more depending on when.

Posted on: 2018/11/13 21:50
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Re: New Amazon HQ
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The JC to Queens commute is not great, with both the PATH *and* the E/R trains getting very crowded.


Several of my clients moved from the garment center to LIC. Honestly, the travel time is the same since I'm not fighting my way to walk 1/2 mile through the crowded midtown streets. So, can JC be worth the extra fare to commute to LIC? Given that an unlimited Smartlink card is $1000/yr, you can easily save that in 2 months of rent over equivalent areas of Queens. Transferring at 23rd street to the F is a snap.

I'll also point out that outdoor recreation opportunities were on that list of requirements. I guess they downgraded it, but getting to the Catskills or Poconos is FAR easier from JC than Queens, one reason we moved here rather than Brooklyn 20 years ago.

Posted on: 2018/11/13 17:35
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Re: Recycling Ticket/Court Appearance
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Jesus, just got another! Funny thing is, it has the infraction date as 11-15-18. Think I can get it pitched just for that? If these assholes just put it in the door or mailbox I'd at least have an idea of what it was for, or not. But when it comes a week later I have no idea.

I'm not sure it's legal for me to break it up among my tenants so they feel the bite and the need to comply. This being JC and NJ, even if I knew for sure, I couldn't evict them.

Posted on: 2018/11/10 23:29
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Re: Recycling Ticket/Court Appearance
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I have one that they've postponed the court date twice now. The whole idea that I can be held liable for what a tenant, neighbor, or passerby does seems insane. If a tenant or neighbor were malicious, the opportunity to screw with a property owner by dumping stuff out front seems endless.

Posted on: 2018/11/9 15:19
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Re: JCBOE - who are you voting for and why?
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Sure, Brewster, I feel for the buggy whip makers too!
Yes! Exactly right! The True American longs for the days when women and minorities knew their place, and horseshit was real horseshit.

Posted on: 2018/11/7 12:39
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Re: JCBOE - who are you voting for and why?
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Excellent move bringing school board vote to November.


That's so harsh, won't you think of the poor poll workers put out on the streets who were depending on that election to feed their children?

Posted on: 2018/11/6 16:52
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Re: window replacement - historic district
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If you didn't want to restore to historic code, why did you buy something in a historic district? If you like the way the neighborhood looks, then why wouldn't you help to preserve it?

It just seems to me that all the people who try to get out of historic preservation codes just want to flip their properties and spend the least amount of money possible on their property.


Do you have a reading comprehension problem? MDM clearly said he owned there long before the district was created. He's a buy and hold investor. Besides, most people have other important uses for their hard earned money other than satisfying Dan Reiden's fetishes. When there's nothing to preserve, there should be no compulsion of the homeowner to restore.

Posted on: 2018/11/5 16:30
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Re: window replacement - historic district
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One day someone will stop Dan. However, it’s going to take a State Court lawsuit.


For most people the lawsuit would cost more than the windows, but I find it hard to believe that there weren't any lawyers among the many people who have dealt with this. Surely one of them would have escalated this fight to daylight?

Posted on: 2018/11/4 13:06
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Re: window replacement - historic district
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City Hall has them - I was able to walk in one day, and get a photo of my building from 1938 in about 5 min (and free). Very surprised!


Was that before or after Sandy?

Posted on: 2018/11/1 21:00
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Re: Female teen killed
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How do you stop and frisk a house?


Are you really this dim? You search it without a warrant.

Posted on: 2018/11/1 10:04
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Re: Female teen killed
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Stop and frisk still a bad idea?


Only if you care about the 4th Amendment. It's probably our most endangered.


Id rather have someones rights infringed upon for probable cause than someone dead. I guess we differ there.


"Stop and frisk" by definition is lacking probable cause other than a profile. You might feel differently when it's your own rights you give up so easily. Ready to have your house searched for contraband or code violations 'just because'?

Posted on: 2018/10/31 12:37
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Re: Female teen killed
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Stop and frisk still a bad idea?


Only if you care about the 4th Amendment. It's probably our most endangered.

Posted on: 2018/10/30 21:58
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Re: window replacement - historic district
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Sounds like someone got lucky or knew the right people Brewster. Chainlink fences have been explicitly prohibited in Jersey City for quite a while.


You sure about that? When they built a Bayonne Box next door in the heights they used chain link fence and gates in the alley between the properties. That was maybe 10 years ago.

I did not know this owner personally, but the case was used as a poster child for what they were saying was wrong at the Historic office. Supposedly he was told he needed to "borrow" an original cast iron section from the neighbor who still had the original, and take it to a foundry to have reproductions cast, at a cost approaching $100k. IIRC they eventually relented and let him install available cast iron fence. Perhaps someone closer to the issue has more details.

Posted on: 2018/10/29 20:07
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Re: Police horse unit may return in Jersey City
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Hey, you're gonna get beat up anyway--you're in Jersey City.
May as well add a little grace and finesse to the streets. Not much more beautiful than a horse. The kids will love seeing them.


you do realize those are idiotic reasons to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Posted on: 2018/10/29 15:38
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Re: window replacement - historic district
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Nothing to restore with vinyl windows. Problem is he won't be able to replace like with like. It's gonna have to be an all wood window in the historic district, whether Marvin, Pella, Anderson or any other of the larger window companies. They will allow casements in place of double hung, but only if they have the simulated check rail and a wide bottom rail to mimic the look of a double hung.


Why is there no "like with like"? I recall there was a case of a chainlink fence in HP that the owner could replace with a new chainlink, but an iron fence would have to be a replica of what was in the historic photo.

Posted on: 2018/10/29 14:07
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Re: window replacement - historic district
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Bumping this thread:

Anyone here with property in the historic district replaced non-historic windows? Found out my building is in one now. I want to replace the crappy vinyl windows installed by the previous owner.

If this project going to take hiring a lawyer to prevent being forced to install "historic" windows that cost a fortune to buy and need lots of maintenance... then I am keeping the crappy vinyl windows.

Trying to gauge how much of a bureaucratic pain the in ass this is going to be.


I seem to recall from the HPNA "uprising" some years back that in theory you'd be fine replacing vinyl with vinyl, it's "no effect", but in practice Reiden's office would illegally force people to "restore" their property to historic condition. Perhaps that's changed.

Which district is this? I thought all your property was in the Heights.

Posted on: 2018/10/29 12:26
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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was just reading in guardian that some jurisdictions will permit their police officers to smoke pot as long as they are not impaired on the job... seems common sense to me

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018 ... ficers-marijuana-cannabis


I'd much rather encounter a mellow, stoned, off-duty cop than a alcohol enraged one as many people have.

Posted on: 2018/10/22 17:20
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Re: Police horse unit may return in Jersey City
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I think mounted police in fact do normal neighborhood patrolling. I don't know why the bike squad was ended.

Another discussion -- https://www.rand.org/blog/2015/03/what ... ut-police-visibility.html


What I found interesting there is they were comparing it to foot patrols. You never see JC cops out of their cars unless they're responding to a call or they're moonlighting on a construction site. They also exaggerated quite a lot saying "Police on horseback are 12 feet tall". More like 8 ft, does little for the article's credibility.

Do the cops still drive through HP on the footpaths? Since my kids are no longer small I'm not there much, but when I would see that, it was iconic of everything wrong with the way they police. I'm not against horses per se, they are quite romantic. I just find the proposal a distraction not a solution.

Posted on: 2018/10/22 17:17
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Re: Police horse unit may return in Jersey City
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Not commenting cost, but how is putting a cop on a horse taking him/her off the street?


I don't think its a stretch to assume that a mounted cop will not be responding to normal calls or do normal neighborhood patrolling, assuming JC cops actually patrol at all. Wasn't the rationale for ending the bike squad that more cops were needed to respond to calls?

Posted on: 2018/10/22 15:03
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Re: Police horse unit may return in Jersey City
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How does one get up there?

If you look closely, there's a step just above the rear wheel on the left. You do need a bit of momentum though.

Seriously, who in their right mind thinks a police force that is unable to do even minimal traffic enforcement should be messing with horses? By my rough arithmetic a horse probably costs yearly the same as a cop, plus a cop is being taken off normal street duty to be on a horse. So horse cop costs us 2 street cops.

Posted on: 2018/10/22 13:48
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Re: Police horse unit may return in Jersey City
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According to studies in the UK, mounted police interact with the community far more than officers in cars and are far more mobile than officers on foot.


If only there were a vehicle that was far less expensive to purchase, maintain and transport than a horse, yet brought officers closer to the community and gave them mobility through parks and traffic. Say, something with 2 wheels that actually also kept the officers physically fit.

Posted on: 2018/10/21 14:20
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