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Re: I Made the Streets of JC a Bit Safer
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Eh. I'm a huge fan of seeing people step up...love the story about the big guy with the cane, that's great stuff. But I can see how someone may have an issue with this story.

First, the title of the post is a bit over the top. That indicates to me that a heroic light is the only one that's going to shine, from an individual who is both the protagonist & the sole witness (except for the driver).

Does it's glare properly portray the incident? I wouldn't be surprised if it did, actually. But nobody is out of line for questioning.

The apparent co-intoxication is another issue- And please, PLEASE, I don't think there's anything wrong with crushing a few beers on a nice afternoon and strolling on home. In fact, I admire and encourage such behavior. However, alcohol does....distort things, a bit. Everything becomes a bit bigger, a bit brighter, a bit more meaningful...such as a guy tripping on his shoe laces being perceived as "stumbling and tumbling"....which to me means he was what, rolling in the street?

I'm also disturbed by the apparent lack of charges by the JCPD. If they could have hooked him up, they would have. But they didn't. They took him to the medical center to sober up, which leads me to believe they couldn't find a reason to lock him up, even for public intoxication. Neat and clean for the cops- now the guy probably won't drive, and it's the hospital's problem if he does.

Point being you "detained" a guy for 10 minutes. I'm foggy on this, but if I recall my old criminal justice courses correctly, citizen's arrests only work for felonies witnessed by the arrestor- Believe it or not, DWI isn't a felony. It's not even a misdemeanor, unless it's changed over the last 15-20 years- It's in title 39, which is motor vehicle violations, not 2C, which is the NJ criminal code.

So basically, if that's the case, you.... well, you legally probably shouldn't have done what you did.

Whether what you did was right or not we can leave to philosophers, but I'm glad the guy didn't end up hurting anyone.

On balance, if it matters, I'm glad you did what you did- but it's a pretty fine line you have to walk if you're going to deprive someone of their liberty- not something to be taken lightly, even for a short period of time. Probably best not to do it when not of a perfectly clear mind. Guy could have a speech impediment, or some sort of infirmity that makes walking/talking hard but driving no problem. I know that's pretty thin, but it's certainly a possible reason for his behavior, and having had a few yourself you'd be hard pressed to smell the booze on his breath.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/6/29 17:13
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Re: PARKING: Jersey City might refund drivers for 'illegal booting'
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I can't believe the comments here re: water under the bridge- Putting aside the fact that what was happening was purely illegal, what kind of precedent are you setting? Every time the city oversteps & takes money from someone they get to keep it?

You're basically rewarding bad behavior- Of course, nobody realized it wasn't legal. It won't happen again. But we're keeping the $$$.

All of this is moot anyway- Some lawyer is putting together a class suit as we speak, I am sure. In the end it won't be anyone's choice as to what happens- The city is going to disgorge some $$$$, period, either by defending the lawsuit (and probably losing) or by cutting some checks.

Imagine for a second if you completely and innocently took an extra $1000 a month from your employer for 5 years, in a way that was completely not the employer's fault. Do you think you'd be able to simply say, "I don't have any records, sorry about that" and it's over?

My guess is the folks on the council & in the mayor's office will have some time to think about this one & change their minds- I can understand being concerned about hurting the city's finances, but what's right here seems pretty straight-forward.

Posted on: 2009/6/29 15:06
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Re: Exchange Place Gunfire Injures Two
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I think you were pretty clear- But I think you meant to say, "Shooter". The "shootee" is the one who was...well, shot.

Posted on: 2009/5/26 15:12
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Re: MOTORCYCLE RIDER
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Quote:

Cleo wrote:
He lives on Jersey just near 7th close to my house. For months he has been going out on his bike several times a night at varying hours, almost always after 11 PM. The bike has no muffler and is very loud. He parks it in the front yard and when he takes it out he rides down the block on the sidewalk right under the neighbor's windows revving his engine until he reaches 6th street from where he takes off in a trail of noise. This usually starts our and everyone elses' dogs going and would be comical if not so annoying.

Almost everyone nearby has spoken to him at one point or another, and he just ignores it. He used to park the bike on the sidewalk but several months ago someone slashed his tires. Otherwise, he pretty much keeps to himself and doesn't bother anyone. I'm a heavy sleeper and tolerate the noise, but a lot of neighbors are really upset.


This guy's steps face Jersey & he puts the bike in the yard now, right? Not a Harley. Some sort of import.

Posted on: 2009/5/12 19:36
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Re: Testing of the new County- Wide Alert Notification System 5/15/09
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Hmmmm verbal instructions- I imagine they won't be very clear from more than a few hundred feet, at best.


Wonder if they've considered a blast text message/email. I know a few campuses set up systems after the Virginia Tech murders. If I'm not mistaken, the feds are also working on one that would broadcast nationwide.

Would be alot more effective than a bunch of air-horns going off, followed by a loudspeaker.

The AM radio thing is kind of silly- Is someone on the street going to be carrying an AM radio on them when they're away from home? This is a statistic that I'm making up on the spot, but it's accurate regardless- There is a 2983828329% higher probability that the average person you stop on the street has a cell phone on them than an AM, or really any, radio.

What if the power's out, which it could be, under a number of emergency situations?

The voice on a pole is probably going to be telling me what station to tune in to, but I doubt I'll hear anything more than I hear when any of the various Mayoral candidate loudspeakers are driving more than half a block away.

Sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher.

Anyway, it's good to announce this, because otherwise I'm sure there'd be some concern over air raid sirens going off, and for all I know they're going to use some sort of electronic system in the future, but I don't see anything about it on the Hudson County OEM website.

Maybe the loudspeakers work great- My concern is based on current experience with the PATH/subway excellence in fidelity I've come to expect from government work, and that might not be exactly fair.

Still should set up text messages/email. I'd sign up in a second.

Posted on: 2009/5/5 17:44
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Re: Why is there a new flight path today - low commercial planes towards EWR
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Update: New video. I should have known.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGGhLihDmFk


Whoever this "Ghostrider" idiot is, he's dangerous.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 16:45
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Re: Why is there a new flight path today - low commercial planes towards EWR
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re: that email- Yeah, no. It's obvious just from this thread alone that the flights occured prior to that 10:10am email. GrovePath's first post was at 10:06.


Even if it was sent out 20 minutes prior, that's no where near an appropriate amount of time.

I am guessing that it's going to work like this: DoD and FAA did send out an informational, but they probably send out 20 a month for different little ticky tacky things. It was duly received by PA, NYPD, JCPD and filed under, "Don't worry about it until someone calls"...you can't have everyone know about everything at all times.

The problem was that this wasn't a "3 helicopters are going to be flying over the tunnel" type event- It was, "Air Force One is going to be tear-assing around Manhattan with 2 fighters on it at about 3000 feet."

What needed to happen is that whoever was putting the info out to the various agencies should have put, "Seriously- No effing around, I know we spam you guys but please read this one, no joke, this little event is going to be pretty serious".

But they didn't, and I think the fact that PA, NYPD, JCPD, NJSP, etc etc etc all appear to have been surprised by this tells you that the outbound communication, if it happened at all, wasn't positioned in a way to give the consumer of that information a real idea as to how big a scene this was really going to be.


I mean, not every agency can be 100% dropping the ball on the same day over the same issue, right?

....right???

Posted on: 2009/4/27 16:11
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Re: Why is there a new flight path today - low commercial planes towards EWR
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It was Air Force 1, or at least whatever AF1 is called when the President isn't on it.

Of course, rumors run wild, but now the story is it was a photo op, a training exercise, or a combination of the two.

I understand the need to train the pilots who drive our President, and maybe there's a real good reason why it had to be done where it was done, number 1, and number 2 why they couldn't give anyone advanced noticed..which apparently was the case.

But I would like to hear those reasons, because frankly, that was bullshit without some good ones- People were piling out of buildings like their lives depended on it, and that's just here- I am sure all over Manhattan and the Waterfront the same thing happened. Even now there are huge crowds of people outside trying to get back in their buildings.

EDIT: Update from the Journal.

http://blogs.wsj.com/middleseat/2009/ ... jet-over-lower-manhattan/


Photo op? Oh, someone needs to lose their job then.

Not to boo hoo hoo it, but alot of us were here 8 years ago... same kind of feeling, glad it was a different result- But someone's a major league idiot for springing this on a population that probably numbers over 25 million on a week day (NYC, JC, Newark, all points in between).

Original headline said the PA had no idea it was going on, but they took that down, so maybe they did.

Re: Red tailed jet- Tuskegee Airmen? Do we have some sort of "legacy" squadron in the airforce? That would be kinda cool.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 14:38
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Re: Embankment at 6th & Erie - Fire Department on Scene
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The thing is, I don't think the city is at fault, it would have to be Hyman's bitch. She doesn't shovel her sidewalks either, so at this point they are just asking for the lawsuit, it doesn't matter to them though they got bank and don't give a *&^%. That's why nobody in the neighborhood likes them and wants a park...get it?



Hyman's what?

Posted on: 2009/4/14 11:50
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Re: So much for all of you folks who predicted a JC/NYC RE Crash
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Not sure if this has already been posted, but here's a fun little illustration of the size of the most recent runup.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2757699799528285056


Submitted for entertainment purposes only.

Posted on: 2009/4/8 20:14
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Re: Head Shops in Jersey City?
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The store @ grove used to offer quite a bit of paraphernalia, conveniently placed near a very large and truly viscious looking collection of knives they had for sale.

Very convenient one-stop shop for our PCP addled residents.

I think they 86'd the knives and went with the pipes- They were well within their rights to sell both that way, but just cause it's legal don't mean it's right.

Posted on: 2009/4/3 18:32
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Re: Warning about shopping at FYE
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Quote:

Crazy_Chester wrote:
Hope the debit card cancellation doesn't negatively affect your credit score. A credit card cancellation would, even if you were the one canceling it. Not sure about the debit card.

Also, using a debit card gives you less purchase and fraud protection than a credit card. I don't really understand using a debit card to begin with unless you are afraid you wouldn't pay your credit card bill in time.

And, yeah, the FYE "gift" sounds like a real scam. You should have just been vigilant with about canceling the subscription before going to the bank.



Debit card cancellation wouldn't do anything. Getting a new credit card number won't, either. He's not closing the account, he's just switching account ##'s.

If you close SEVERAL accounts down at once, it can be negative to your credit in the short term. But just getting a new account number would have no effect at all.

Part of the reason you can hurt your credit by closing an account is what it does to your ratio of available credit. If you have 2 cards, each with 10k limits for a total of $20k, and have 10k on one and nothing on the other, you've used 50% of your available revolving credit. If you close the card with nothing on it, now you're using 100%....ie, you're maxxed out. Lenders don't like to see that you have no resources to float expenses if something happens.


ANYWAY- regarding FYE- Their employees, shockingly, are amongst the most helpful & friendly in the mall. It's between them and the folks at Radio Shack.

Get into the habit of reading the fine print. If you don't have time to ask or do so, don't accept what they're offering.We're seeing the consequences of people not understanding (or being willfully ignorant- that's not directed at the OP btw) what they're getting themselves in to. Hence mortgage defaults, "I didn't know, I thought the payment on a $800,000 house should always be $1000 @ 3.1% IO", etc.

Fraud is an entirely different matter, but that wasn't what this was......



GWB

Posted on: 2009/4/1 12:20
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Re: Heights: Paintball player arrested for possession of a weapon
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Sounds like a "We didn't catch you doing what you were actually going to do, but we know you were about to do something, so you're getting charged" situation.

As far as I know posession of a paintball gun in and of itself is not illegal in Jersey, nor do I believe are they considered firearms.

Having played paintball a few times, it does hurt to get shot- Generally you're so fired up that it's not a massive amount of pain, but it hurts for sure. However, if you are not wearing protective gear, a paintball will absolutely positively destroy your eye if you get hit there at anything close to a medium distance.

So shooting someone outside of a game could without question be considered agg assault, as there is a real chance that the object being used could cause serious bodily injury.

I'm not a prohibitionist, but I wasn't heart broken when the Sports Authority or Modells or whatever it is over near the mall stopped selling them.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/3/3 15:55
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Re: Top 10 Beer lists: In anticipation of Zeppelin Hall (beer garden)
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Big fan of the Liberty Ale.

Big fan of Hoegaarden.

Delirium Tremens I've had and won't likely have again- to say the least it ain't a beer you can drink all night.... 3 would probably get you a pretty fat buzz.

Smithwick's is a recent favorite- Not sure why. Just got on a bit of a kick with it.

I'll pretty much drink anything except for Bud. Even the other "mass produced" (aren't they all?) beers of that ilk are drinkable in a pinch (I'm not above picking up a sixer of the Silver Bullet). Bud just has some sort of aftertaste that doesn't make me very happy.

Keep em coming.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/2/23 22:53
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Re: NYPD: Drunken Jersey City cop mows down and kills young woman, injures man in lower Manhattan
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Couple thoughts-

First, the reason **generally** that stories like Drew Peterson & the like make the news is because they're man bites dog stories- Not the norm.

And let's face it, it's more interesting than "Joe Blow the truck driver killed his wife". When it's a cop, it's a made-for-TV movie waiting to happen. Nancy Grace and the rest of the ghouls can't get enough.

Second, the mother may be a pig. She certainly lacks decorum & class. But to be perfectly honest, this is what moms do. She's probably a wreck, and while she should be thinking about what she's saying about the victims, she's obviously much more concerned with her son. As would your mothers be, if you have a decent relationship with them and are going to be perfectly fair about it.

Third, she may be telling the truth. Those two could have just jumped into the street- we've all seen it happen, and we've all done it, and it doesn't make them bad people or responsible for what happened- It could have just been an accident- BUT FOR the fact that this tool was driving drunk. Doesn't matter after that- The "other guy" could be completely at fault, but if someone gets killed & you have a load on, you're toast- as you should be.

Fourth and finally, I too have followed the trevails of big "hiring drive" JCPD cops. It does seem that there were alot of problems- who was covering for drug dealers, who had a gang history, obviously now who got involved with a fatal accident.... Alot of this I think has more to do with the demographic (young, male) than it has to do with any sense of entitlement or anything else.


Horrible for everyone involved. Stay out of the friggin' cars. It's NY. I can't imagine a worse place to be driving with a load on.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/2/9 22:05
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Re: Hoboken will be just a walk away
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Quote:

jcpissed wrote:
You know what this means people? Those Hoboken folks will now be able to walk into Jersey City!!! What can we do to stop this??!!!


I was thinking the same thing. When you say "walkway" I hear "corridor" and when I see "Newport" I think "Danzig", and I don't mean the dude from Lodi :)

GWB

Posted on: 2009/2/4 19:13
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Re: No Happy Meal: Heights man used a .357-magnum to shoot out McD's windows in Union City
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Who knew the Hamburglar was from JC?

Posted on: 2009/2/3 13:34
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Re: Dogs' owner may be charged with assault - pair of bullmastiffs involved in three alleged attacks
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Toast. Between the witnesses who have come forward and her unbelievably stupid comments to the paper, DeFazio will have zero problem obtaining an indictment.

I guess comments to a reporter are hearsay....any lawyers here? But that doesn't matter in grand jury proceedings.

So friggin' stupid. Would she have been indicted anyway? Probably. But like a moron she basically taunted the victims in print, and did it so specifically that it gives a prosecutor a big fat hook to yank her with...the grand jury is going to say, "Well, I don't know if it's criminal or not, but it's obvious she's lying about aspects of the incidents, so let's just send up a true bill & let the trial jury sort it out"

So when DeFazio says "possible charges", that's just him paying a little heed to proceedure. The PO has decided to hit them with an agg assault charge. That's exactly what they're going to end up standing for or pleading down from.

Nice! I don't know how you prove intent for an agg assault charge, maybe because it was a repeated pattern you could....they let the friggin' dogs try to eat people 6 different times. But agg assault is a 2nd degree crime in Jersey, with a presumption of a custodial sentence if convicted, even if there is no criminal history at all.

Have fun, dummy!

GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/30 13:36
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Re: Next Meeting with Captain McDonough
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I think it's natural to have a bit of a lashing out at the city administration, the police, whatever.

Maybe some of it is deserved, maybe it isn't. But a family lost their dad & husband today, and while I strongly doubt they'll be here any time soon to check the old JCList, if they did this sort of bickering back and forth is going to seem awful petty.

The man died not 8 hours ago. If you want to advocate against a candidate or the police chief, pick a better venue, guys, or at least make another thread.

Say a prayer for them tonight, then say a prayer for the killer's soul under the assumption he has one. What to do about city government & cops at constructions sites, if anything, will still be there tomorrow.

GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/27 22:37
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Re: Downtown: One dead in shooting on Coles Street in Jersey City this morning
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Horrible. Just horrible.

A shooting on Coles at 9:50AM... robbery? Seems like an awful dangerous spot for a scumbag to do something like that. There are people all over the place that time of morning. Cops, kids included.

I guess McNair locked down?


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/27 16:47
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Re: 'SCARED TO COME TO MANHATTAN' - feels like a flashback to the 1980s
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Quote:

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Not nostalgic for seedy Times Square but many of the ethnic neighborhoods are disappearing and being able to visit many parts of the world without leaving NYC has always been something that you could only experience here. As the distinctive neighborhoods disappear, so does the character of NYC.



I appreciate the sentiment here, but it's a little self-absorbed. I would argue that integration of ethnic groups into American society has been an enormous boon, both to the groups & to the country.

Irish & Polish & Jewish & Italian and on and on. Now Puerto Rican and Dominican and Southeastern and on and on. Eventually everyone spreads out & integrates- if not the new immigrants than their kids. They keep what's good from their homes, leave behind what's bad, and off we go.

Leaving someone in a ghetto (and I use the word in the classic sense) or hoping that they stay there, whether because you want to "contain" them or because you dig the food in the long run is not healthy.

Not saying that you're suggesting that, but I can only view the deterioration of ethnic enclaves positively.

Besides, now you can get authentic Polish cooking in the burbs. Today, pierogis & kiebasi, tomorrow, real tikka masala & empanadas!

That said, this article is hysterical, also in the classic sense. I wonder how long the folks interviewed that live in alphabet city have lived there. Probably since 2005.

And are squeegee men really back?? Any independent confirmation of this from anyone here? I certainly haven't seen any.

GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/26 17:13
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Re: Unleashed Mastiffs Attack JC Man Downtown this Morning
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Holy crap. Forget the dogs for a moment- that battle's not going to be won or lost on this thread. THIS LADY IS NUTS! 3 incidents, and she tries to explain them all away.

"My dog would have bitten right through his arm". Real nutjob comment. "She dropped the baby". Nutcase comment.

The best part of all of this? Her idiot statements are going to be thrown in her face by DeFazio, with the "little chinese lady", the reporter, the young Rodriguez guy & the first guy, along with other witnesses. They're going to take her statements & pick them apart. When the find that any little fact doesn't line up with what the witnesses are saying (assuming she chooses not to testify in front of a grand jury) she is going to be SCREWED.

All it takes is ONE person who saw that the "little chinese lady" wasn't "jumping around" and "dropped the baby" and DeFazio's office is going to get her indicted, no problem at all.

Such an arrogant idiot. Too stupid to know that when you're being looked at for a felony, the LAST thing you want to do is go telling stories in the newspaper.

If you're reading this, lady.... WAY TO HANG YOURSELF. You're toast. You may have had a shot before, but you waved the cape in front of the bull (mastiff?).


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/22 14:49
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Re: Greenville Mom tracked down son's mugger
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So that's 2 stories- One where the lady finds the guy on the internet, and this one. I'm not so concerned that the citizens & not the cops are finding these guys- I am concerned that they all have recent convictions, violent ones, and are out.

Is it the Prosecutor's office cutting deals? The judges?

I don't want to start another gun debate thread, but rather than focusing on the headline grabbing political stuff, how about some old fashioned tough convictions?

How about locking him up for more than 15 or 16 months? Let's give that one a shot, see how it goes.

It's obviously not just these two stories- Every JJ article where they catch the guy, second to last or last paragraph, "Blah blah was in prison for blah blah, blah blah, blah blah for 2 months in 05, and for blah blah blah in 06 for 3 months, and got out 3 weeks ago".


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/10 23:40
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Re: Boomerang: Great new vintage/junk store opened Downtown on Brunswick in the Village.
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....The Village?

GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/7 16:46
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Re: Morning Murder at LSP Light Rail Station
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Sue everyone society. How a mentally ill person stabbing a guy on a train platform somehow becomes the fault of NJ Transit I do not know.

How is it a "dangerous area"? The perp could have done what he did at Grove, at Exchange, in front of the White House.

People watch too much TV. Even in Super Tort New Jersey not everything has a civil cause of action.

I guess they should sue the people on the platform with him, as well as the maker of the knife.

They may squeeze a settlement out of NJT with a nuisance lawsuit & the attendant bad publicity, but if they went to court I think they'd prevail, barring a runaway jury.

I think it's more likely that NJT gets dropped from the suit. For reasons I do not completely remember, it's pro forma to name almost every single possible proximate entity in law suits. Any lawyers on the board? Something to do with screwing up your claim against who you really want to go after. The superfluous defendants get dropped somewhere before the process gets anywhere near brass tacks.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/6 20:40
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Re: Christ Hospital apparently threw out dead baby's body with trash
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Ugh. Horrible story.

It's showing up in national news now. I don't know what the hospital is thinking re: their PR person. She is NOT helping their position. Maybe they feel the need to respond to the lawyer's public statements, but they look horrible trying to argue with the family.

You threw out their baby's body, folks. Might be a good idea to maintain radio silence, hope the body is found & let the court deal with it- which it will.

And that whole "it was stillborn but we can't prove it because someone took the body out of the morgue & threw it in the garbage" defense is going to have a maximum effective range of zero at the Hudson County Court House, so get ready & keep the stupid statements to a minimum.

I mean, really- "We threw out the baby but hey it was stillborn, sorry to the family". That's what you want to go with?


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/6 19:56
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Re: Morning Murder at LSP Light Rail Station
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Quote:

MYBEAT wrote:
Quote:

GeorgeWBush wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson


You can't force a mentally ill person to do anything unless they're a danger to themselves or others, or they can't care for themselves.

One of the places where freedom of the individual & the rights of society rub up against each other & chaff themselves raw.

Well maybe its time to change the law, since its very apparent that it aint working !

How many more people need to lose their life because some deranged maniac was allowed to roam the streets looking for Prey????

GWB



Please fix your post- it looks like your post is part of my post.


It's not a matter of just "change the law". You could pass some involuntary commitment type law through the legislature, which would immediately be challenged by the courts & likely be struck down at the state level. If it wasn't, it would go to the US Supreme Court and probably meet the same fate.

This happens from time to time, and of course 1 time is too many. I personally believe that mentally ill people are also ill served by the current law of the land.

But as I said, this is a flashpoint for individual rights vs. society. I am sure the halls of academia run blue & black with the buckets of ink spilled in law journals by bright-eyed young students. I am equally sure that social workers & medical students also spend alot of time & typing on the issue.

That's because it is so thorny, so contenious, so "flesh and blood". Do you slam some guy in the loony bin for.......well, ever, just because he "seems scary", even though he's not hurt a fly in his entire life? Or do you go the other way and let lunacy build on lunacy, allowing the abnormal behavior to reach a level where it has no where to go but into violence?

Most reasonable people of course will ask, "Isn't there a middle ground?" And of course there is. That part is easy to answer.

"Where is it?" is the harder one.

I'm not saying that in this particular case that mistakes weren't made- Obviously, OBVIOUSLY they were. Anyone who evaluated this guy and said he wasn't dangerous is provably wrong. Any judge that decided he shouldn't be committed obviously blew it. It's a pretty tough call, though- Throw a guy in jail, basically, against his will, stripping him of every right he has, even though he's broken no laws. Or don't, and live with the consequences if he actually does explode.

Horrible. For the family of the victim, even for the family of the perp, this is a disaster. In this particular case, it does seem a little wrong that the guy's FAMILY was saying, "listen, you gotta lock my kid up" and somehow the "authorities" thought they knew better.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/6 15:51
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Re: Morning Murder at LSP Light Rail Station
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Connor_v._Donaldson


You can't force a mentally ill person to do anything unless they're a danger to themselves or others, or they can't care for themselves.

One of the places where freedom of the individual & the rights of society rub up against each other & chaff themselves raw.

GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/6 15:27
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Re: What Jersey City Restaurant Do You Miss the Most?
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Home away from home


I know it wasn't technically a restaurant, but I'm surprised....not one single mention of Uncle Joe's.

How many years has it been gone now? 4?

I'm not an anti- new resident guy at all, and I know alot had changed downtown prior to Joe's actually getting condo'd (is that a word?), but for me Uncle Joe's going away was as good a historical marker as any between the way it was/the way it is (or at least my perception of).

Why oh why can't I just go into a muddy backyard, sit on a filthy couch, and put my beer on a telephone cable spindle?

GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/2 14:55
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Re: Woman attacked heading to work on 2nd and Colgate
#90
Home away from home
Home away from home


LOL 21st Century Mugging, meet "old as mankind" response.

Winnah- old faithful.


GWB

Posted on: 2009/1/2 14:45
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