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Re: Are we doing too much or not enough about this?
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NYC Inmate 'Baked to Death' in Cell

By JAKE PEARSON?
Associated Press
Mar 19, 2014

Jerome Murdough was just looking for a warm place to sleep on a chilly night last month when he curled up in an enclosed stairwell on the roof of a Harlem public housing project where he was arrested for trespassing.

A week later, the mentally ill homeless man was found dead in a Rikers Island jail cell that four city officials say had overheated to at least 100 degrees, apparently because of malfunctioning equipment.

The officials told The Associated Press that the 56-year-old former Marine was on anti-psychotic and anti-seizure medication, which may have made him more vulnerable to heat. He also apparently did not open a small vent in his cell, as other inmates did, to let in cool air.

"He basically baked to death," said one of the officials, who all spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not permitted to discuss specifics of the case.

The medical examiner's office said an autopsy was inconclusive and that more tests were needed to determine Murdough's exact cause of death. But the officials, all with detailed knowledge of the case, say initial indications from the autopsy and investigation point to extreme dehydration or heat stroke.

Advocates for mentally ill inmates in New York say the death represents the failure of the city's justice system on almost every level: by arresting Murdough instead of finding him help, by setting bail at a prohibitive $2,500 and by not supervising him closely in what is supposed to be a special observation unit for inmates with mental illnesses.

Department of Correction spokesman Robin Campbell said in a statement that an internal investigation will look into all circumstances of Murdough's death, "including issues of staff performance and the adequacy of procedures."

Campbell acknowledged that the temperature in Murdough's cell was "unusually high" and that action has been taken to fix mechanical problems to ensure safe temperatures, "particularly in areas housing vulnerable inmates."

Murdough's 75-year-old mother, Alma Murdough, said she did not learn of her son's death until the AP contacted her last week, nearly a month after he died. His public defender was told of the death three days after the inmate was found, the DOC said.

"He was a very lovely, caring guy," said Murdough, adding that her son had bipolar disorder and schizophrenia and that she had not seen him in about three years.

"He had beer problems. Drinking beer. That was his downfall. Other than that, he was a very nice guy. He'd give you the shirt off his back."

Family members say Murdough grew up in Queens and joined the Marine Corps right out of high school, doing at least one stint in Okinawa, Japan.

When he returned from the service, his family said, both his mental illness and thirst for alcohol became more pronounced, and he would often disappear for months at a time, finding warmth in hospitals, shelters and the streets.

"When he wanted to venture off, we let him, we allowed him to come and go," recalled his sister, Cheryl Warner. "He always came back."

Murdough's criminal record included 11 misdemeanor convictions for trespassing, drinking in public and minor drug charges, said Ivan Vogel, a public defender who represented him at his arraignment on the trespassing charge.

According to the city officials, Murdough was locked alone into his 6-by-10 cinderblock cell at about 10:30 p.m. on Feb. 14, a week after his arrest. Because he was in the mental-observation unit, he was supposed to be checked every 15 minutes as part of suicide watch, they said. But Murdough was not discovered until four hours later, at about 2:30 a.m. on Feb. 15. He was slumped over in his bed and already dead.

When Murdough was found and his cell opened, his internal body temperature and the temperature in the cell were at least 100 degrees. Those temperatures could have been higher before he was discovered because the cell had been closed for several hours, the officials said.

Dr. Susi Vassallo, an associate professor at New York University School of Medicine and a national expert on heat-related deaths who monitors heat conditions at Rikers Island, said psychotropic medications can impair the body's ability to cool itself by sweating, making it retain more heat than it should.

Exposure to intense heat for a couple of hours by someone on such medications could be fatal, she said.

Last year, only three Rikers inmates died from non-natural causes, according to Department of Correction statistics.

Of the 12,000 inmates who make up the nation's second-largest jail system, about 40 percent are mentally ill, and a third of them suffer from serious mental problems the department said. Advocates and others have long argued that correction officers are not sufficiently trained to deal with mentally ill inmates whose needs are complex.

Catherine Abate, a member of the New York City Board of Correction, an agency charged with overseeing the city's jails, suggested at a recent public meeting that Murdough should have been referred him to psychiatric care, not to Rikers Island.

Jennifer J. Parish, an attorney at the New York-based Urban Justice Center's Mental Health Project, said Murdough appeared to be a man in need of care.

"So Mr. Murdough violated the trespass law. So he suffered the consequences by going to jail," Parish said. "But the jail system committed more serious harm to him. And the question is, 'Will they ever be held responsible?'"

Wanda Mehala, another of Murdough's sisters, said the family wants an explanation.

"We want justice for what was done," she said. "He wasn't just some old homeless person on the street. He was loved. He had a life. He had a family. He had feelings."

More: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ap ... baked-death-cell-22968762

Posted on: 2014/3/19 16:57
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Re: Any flooding in west bergen during sandy or irene?
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That's what real estate companies are calling the area, doesn't carry the stigma of "Greenville".

And from what I saw, some properties in Country Village got hit pretty hard during Sandy.


No doubt. Some people are surprised when I tell them that the neighborhood east of Garfield and south of Danforth is one of the more peaceful areas in Jersey City.


I love that area, I was interested in a house there on Princeton but decided to walk away due to no parking. Its like the country over there.

However, That area is also a part of GV but I hear it might be in for a name change as well with all the new development behind the Richard street station. My area is slowly loosing its GV name due to the park.

Soon GV we will be a 4 block radius with all the name changing. sigh.. Too bad, I actually like the name.


I think it should be called Cerelyville again.

Posted on: 2014/3/19 15:45
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Re: Any flooding in west bergen during sandy or irene?
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That's what real estate companies are calling the area, doesn't carry the stigma of "Greenville".

And from what I saw, some properties in Country Village got hit pretty hard during Sandy.


No doubt. Some people are surprised when I tell them that the neighborhood east of Garfield and south of Danforth is one of the more peaceful areas in Jersey City.

Posted on: 2014/3/19 12:53
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Oops! Christie Port Authority appointees kept campaign manager informed on fallout from GWB

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Governor Christie?s top Port Authority appointees were keeping his campaign manager informed about the fallout from the lane closures from their earliest stages, according to documents released today by the George Washington Bridge investigative committee.?

The Port Authority executives each forwarded campaign manager Bill Stepien an email on Sept. 12 ? the third day of the closures, which caused huge traffic jams in Fort Lee -- from the borough?s mayor, who complained that the closures endangered the public.?

In the letter from Fort Lee Mayor Mark Sokolich, the Democrat complains that he is ?reaching the conclusion that there are punitive overtones associated with this initiative.??

Baroni forwarded the letter to Stepien, along with the note, ?Following up.? The campaign manager replied, ?Thanks.? Wildstien also forwarded the letter to Stepien. All three men used their personal, rather than official, email accounts. No further discussion is contained in the documents.

More: http://www.northjersey.com/news/docum ... wb-lane-closures-1.744676

Posted on: 2014/3/19 12:14
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Re: Any flooding in west bergen during sandy or irene?
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I had no idea that area is called West Bergen.

Posted on: 2014/3/19 11:33
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Re: Young men on bikes pursue alleged purse snatcher
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I'm surprised such an experienced criminal made the mistake of boarding a city bus with the expectation of a quick getaway. One can often walk faster.


It's because most of them are stupid. Only a stupid person would do something that would get them locked in a cage with other guys for years.

Posted on: 2014/3/19 11:28
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Re: New Jersey City University to celebrate NJ's 350th birthday
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When the English arrived in 1664 they found a place that was already relatively diverse in its inhabitants. In addition to Native American populations, Swedish and Dutch settlers had already made the arduous journey to what would become the Garden State. This characteristic of diversity continues to be a hallmark of New Jersey today.


Was the person who wrote that trying to be funny?

Posted on: 2014/3/19 0:32
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Re: Hoboken mayor claims Christie administration held city's Sandy recovery funds 'hostage' to help deve
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Chris Christie town hall disrupted by protesters again

SOUTH RIVER ? A group of Rutgers University students, as well as union representatives, were kicked out of a town hall meeting with Gov. Chris Christie today.

The group rose up in unison after Christie finished answering a question about why parents who send their children to Catholic schools have to pay taxes to support public schools and started shouting at the governor, blasting him for his handling of Hurricane Sandy relief aid.

One of the protestors called out a chant and the rest echoed it, line by line.

"Governor Christie, we are here to demand, you stop your corrupt uses, of Hurricane Sandy money," they said. "There are still families without homes who have received no aid."

"Be quiet," one woman in the audience yelled at the protesters chanted.

The hecklers specifically took aim at a housing project in New Brunswick that received federal Sandy relief aid.

More: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _by_protesters_again.html

Posted on: 2014/3/18 23:40
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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Again: If that is your concern, look at his donor list. I even gave you a link right to it.

If you do, you'll see that the single biggest donor to the Fulop campaign is... Steven Fulop. By a huge margin. Go figure.


Interesting, though, that his personal contributions are listed as "loans". I guess this is normal...? I can't say I've ever looked at this sort of list before...

Anyway, regarding this whole issue with redacting the calendar entries - it could very easily be resolved if they were simply redacted with a side-note along the lines of "met with private citizen, name redacted for confidentiality". Heck, I'll pay for the rubber stamp that says it. The problem I have is that when so MUCH is redacted, it's easy (normal?) to assume that there are a lot of other things going on, besides individual meetings. Redactions, as potentially innocuous as they may be, obviously inspire conspiracy theories.

On a side note, the constant "my guy does this, but YOUR guy is much worse!" claims and deflections do absolutely nothing to advance an intelligent discourse. We should be able to have an intelligent discussion about the present and this specific issue without constantly drudging up the past (or current, ancillary distractions). Do we all really need to constantly be flame-bating, internet tough guys?


"Everyone who criticises my guy is a flame-baring troll." Haven't heard that one before.

Posted on: 2014/3/17 15:01
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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(Same thing, bigger stage.)

"If you screw up in government, just mark it top secret." - Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt

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WASHINGTON (AP) ? The Obama administration more often than ever censored government files or outright denied access to them last year under the U.S. Freedom of Information Act, according to a new analysis of federal data by The Associated Press.?

The administration cited more legal exceptions it said justified withholding materials and refused a record number of times to turn over files quickly that might be especially newsworthy. Most agencies also took longer to answer records requests, the analysis found.?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03 ... ty-records_n_4976597.html

Posted on: 2014/3/17 14:58
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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Give me one scenario where someone needs confidentiality when speaking to a mayor.


Hypothetically:

Let's say a home or business owner is trying to get a permit for improvements to their property or business and they feel they are not getting a fair shake from the building dept. So they schedule a meeting with the mayor or their ward council representative to discuss it. They are then told that their name and meeting date/time are subject to public disclosure. They might be wary of having this meeting for fear the building dept will get wind of it and make the situation more difficult.

A more critical situation would exist where a person wanted to discuss accusations of malfeasance within the police dept or prosecutor's office.

To be clear, I have not had these types of concerns and I am not a conspiracy theorist so would not be compelled by public disclosure either way. But good governance requires that all citizens feel safe when communicating with their elected officials.

Citizens should have this right to privacy whatever the reason. For those wishing a public audience, they may always avail themselves of our open-to-the-public, televised city council meetings.

Kudos to the administration for adhering to this.


Fine, then the mayor can redact that meeting. But the press shouldn't be hindered from knowing when a mayor has met with potential donors.

Like I said, the same people who are excusing everything Obama does were saying the exact opposite when the same thing happened under Bush. I've come to the conclusion that American politics is little more than a football game.

Posted on: 2014/3/17 14:17
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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Oh those big mean dogs have pooped on my azaleas again. Who can help me with this?

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I better not find out you've been talking to the mayor, old woman

Posted on: 2014/3/17 14:01
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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Give me one scenario where someone needs confidentiality when speaking to a mayor.

Posted on: 2014/3/17 12:04
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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Amazing, Brian Stack, ignore this rule when he meets with the public.

We're supposed to believe Stack -- who has been running a solid political machine in Union City for years -- is as transparent as glass, because someone you know said he meets people in the street?

Do you genuinely believe that if you put in a FOIA request for his schedule from the past 6 months, he would give you the names of the people he talked to on the street? That he talks to people in the street specifically so he can record and report his schedule?

Even under the most charitable interpretation possible, I'd say you are confusing transparency with good ol' fashioned retail politics.


Nothing illegal ever happens when you meet people on the street.

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Posted on: 2014/3/17 2:11
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Re: How is the area by the Westside Ave HBLR Station?
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It's a hellish war zone. If you like falling asleep to the sound of gunfire and explosions this is the neighborhood for you. The choice can be between hunger and running the gauntlet to Pathmark. Sometimes the bodies bake for hours in the noontime sun.


Don't forget the scenes evocative of "28 Days Later."


Yeah, good description of the Pathmark parking lot and shopping experience:

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This film is about a virus that makes the infected person mad with extreme rage and hungry for blood.

Posted on: 2014/3/17 1:53
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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NONE of Fulop's meetings should be hidden from the public. None. 0.

For at least the 3rd time....

They cannot release the names of private individuals. That would be a violation of state law.

You wanna know his entire schedule? Change the law.


I stand correctef. So New Jersey Democrats and Republicans pass a law that prohibits them from revealing the names of people who are meeting them to give them $$$. Hooray!

Posted on: 2014/3/17 0:13
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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What about developers who meet and ask for favors? Are they considered private people? Anyone who walks into a public building should not expect privacy. Granted the public may not be privilege to the content of the information but that is not the same as an individual or groups who enter city hall. The public should know.


Absolutely right. The content of some meetings can hidden but not who he's meeting with.

Posted on: 2014/3/16 23:30
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Re: Why are almost half of Fulop's meeting hidden?
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Some meetings have to be private in order for things like this to happen.

Many of us who pay taxes have met with the mayor, council president, and chief of police to discuss quality of life issues.. It is done in private to protect one's identity and safety.


Posts like this are why I don't regret being booted off of Democratic Underground. How stupid do you think people are? Keep up, Fulop, and you'll have a 40% approval rating like Obama does.

NONE of Fulop's meetings should be hidden from the public. None. 0.

Posted on: 2014/3/16 23:19
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Re: How is the area by the Westside Ave HBLR Station?
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It's a hellish war zone. If you like falling asleep to the sound of gunfire and explosions this is the neighborhood for you. The choice can be between hunger and running the gauntlet to Pathmark. Sometimes the bodies bake for hours in the noontime sun.

Posted on: 2014/3/16 22:03
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Re: Rennovations w/o permits
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Who do you contact to report someone who is doing work w/o permits?


How does this affect you?


It all matters to everybody pal. Your wall is their wall, your roof is connected to their roof, their porch could connect to your fence, if I do sh*t with a permit, they should do sh*t with a permit.


Cause everyone knows that being concerned about a structural wall in the 3 story house next yours is the same as turning in the neighbor across the street who you've been feuding with about his parking habits.

Edit: I like the nod to Robert Blake in your post. Nice touch.

Posted on: 2014/3/16 18:53
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Re: Rennovations w/o permits
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The horror!




Decks have rules too. How close they can be to the building next door, for example, or how much land they cover. Collapsing isn't a joke either - particularly if it's higher up or people are injured.


I actually said a front porch but try as I did I couldn't find an image of a deadly front porch collapse.

Posted on: 2014/3/16 13:33
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Re: Candice Osborne for Mayor? Political Insider Thinks So - JJ Today
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Claim Fulop is a dangerous socialist with no morals. It worked for Karl Rove in 2012. Oh wait...

Posted on: 2014/3/16 13:25
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Re: Packages being stolen downtown again & seeing Spotters
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I don't understand why they leave packages lying around in downtown JC. They don't do it in Greenville or anywhere else I've lived. If you're not there to sign for it you have to go pick it up.

Posted on: 2014/3/16 11:19
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Re: Candice Osborne for Mayor? Political Insider Thinks So - JJ Today
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The no loud music councilwoman?

Posted on: 2014/3/16 1:40
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Re: Rennovations w/o permits
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The horror!




Posted on: 2014/3/15 20:58
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Re: Rennovations w/o permits
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Really?! So your attitude is that people should do whatever they want without the requisite permits? What if they are making serious work and burst a gas line? Or, maybe they are doing electrical work and cause an electrical fire. Yes, it IS their property, but given the density around this area, any such "mishap" can have SERIOUS consequences for neighbors.


What if they're just building a porch? That's why I asked.

Posted on: 2014/3/15 15:54
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Re: Rennovations w/o permits
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Nori wrote:
Who do you contact to report someone who is doing work w/o permits?


How does this affect you?

Posted on: 2014/3/15 13:24
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Re: The birth of Hollywood began at 900 Broadway in Bayonne
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Neat, I guess we are living on one of those old farms.?


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1926 Bayside Park, when it was first being developed.


Cool this book has a lot of details about the early film industry in Nj:

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Posted on: 2014/3/14 21:05
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Re: The birth of Hollywood began at 900 Broadway in Bayonne
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Weren't films being made a decade earlier by Edison in West Orange?


And Fort Lee and pretty much all over NJ. The point was that the independent studios moved to Hollywood to put space between themselves and Edison's patent lawsuits.

Posted on: 2014/3/14 20:54
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The birth of Hollywood began at 900 Broadway in Bayonne
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Today Bayonne seems an unlikely setting for cowboys and Indians, surrounded as it is by urban dewellings, industries and the waters of both Newark and New York bays. In 1908, there were still two farms which formed a boundry between Bayonne and Jersey City. Both bays were less industrial and there were yacht clubs and summer resorts in Bayonne. Where the Palisades ended there was a clump of woodland which, for a few years, was peopled with adventuresome actors in greasepaint and chaps.


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Posted on: 2014/3/14 20:26
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