jyscorp wrote:
Just wanted to give this place some love...I don't think I go here often enough. Went to Sava's tonight with a friend and we were both raving about how good it was. The flavors and tastes of this food are pure pleasure. Amazing. We are lucky to have a place like this in our hood. It's better than any Russian/Polish joint in the East Village, easily. Deeply satisfying, affordable meals served by a true character of a Polish Grandma in an unpretentious, genuine atmosphere. Without question one of the best eateries in Jersey City. This little resto is the real deal.

Mouse wrote:
To quote U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, "sunlight is the best disinfectant.?

OK Jersey City, what say we show up and give democracy (and free speech) a try?

It is important that we keep the pressure on the council and make it clear that their actions will be scrutinized.

September 9th...6 PM... City Hall... be there.

-M

JRL wrote:
The protest seems to have a hand in pushing Corruptarano out in Hoboken. As for Jersey City we do need to go deeper than Vega, he would only be one council member, which is a start.
We also have the Lopez situation which should be some low hanging fruit we can go after too. Naturally there is Healy, we can only hope the FBI comes to get him soon. There would still be 6 Council Members left from Team Healy in which still gives them a majority and deep ties to the machine.
They all have that same exact smug behavior and pretty much laugh at us citizens of Jersey City who want them out. Unfortunately until we can get good people on the council, along with a Mayor that actually cares, we will continue to have the crime situation and people, police officers will continue to get shot.

There are folks out here on the board that think we should not go after Team Healy with pitchforks and torches...Well it looks like it worked in Hoboken.

Let's keep working on pushing them out....We need to keep the pressure on.

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jc123 wrote:
In support of what's been said already: Can't we stage another Hoboken-like protest in front of City Hall to keep the pressure on securing Vega's resignation now since we're not sure when the next wave of info will be released by the FBI?

Police officers are losing their lives in the fight against crime in our city and Vega was arrested for is taking bribe money for his own benefit. After his smug behavior at the council meeting on Wednesday, we must resolve to get him out!


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JRL wrote:
If Healy ends up gone because of the corruption, resigns, goes to jail, then we should also look into those who benefited from the Team Healy campaign war chest, perhaps a recall of those council members. Most likely Vega will be gone, then there is still the Lopez issue and she could possibly be gone.
We as citizens should the work to change the council, see about a recall, or pressure them into resigning too. Then we can break the machine. I agree those from Team Healy left standing could get reelected, or even become Mayor. That's why we could not wait 4 years, we would have to see what we can do now in terms of recalling Team Healy people left standing.
We still need to wait to see how this all turns out with the FBI and the ongoing investigations.



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o73o2 wrote:
in any case, money or not, healy has lost his credibility.

the question becomes whether the electorate will remember this in four years. unless we are reminded frequently what the accusations are - not against him but against his entourage - and how these accusations implicate him, he could actually count on voter apathy and forgetfulness in four years' time.

we have a responsability here to remind the electorate all across the city that he has been elected by the very active support of several individuals who are implicated in a major scandal. and even if none of these guys goes to the slammer, we cannot simply let this scandal disappear into the fog of memory.

there is a political machine in jersey city and hudson county. healy owns it. even if he is gone - resigned, in jail or in retirement - he is still the owner of the machine, and nothing will happen politically in the city without his knowledge, permission and patronage.

it is like killing weed. we can neutralize healy, but the body and his time will survive. and given their pure strength, they may be able to reelect some people who clearly are implicated in this scandal without being charged.

four years is a long time and memories fade fast.

JRL wrote:
If Healy ends up gone because of the corruption, resigns, goes to jail, then we should also look into those who benefited from the Team Healy campaign war chest, perhaps a recall of those council members. Most likely Vega will be gone, then there is still the Lopez issue and she could possibly be gone.
We as citizens should the work to change the council, see about a recall, or pressure them into resigning too. Then we can break the machine. I agree those from Team Healy left standing could get reelected, or even become Mayor. That's why we could not wait 4 years, we would have to see what we can do now in terms of recalling Team Healy people left standing.
We still need to wait to see how this all turns out with the FBI and the ongoing investigations.



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o73o2 wrote:
in any case, money or not, healy has lost his credibility.

the question becomes whether the electorate will remember this in four years. unless we are reminded frequently what the accusations are - not against him but against his entourage - and how these accusations implicate him, he could actually count on voter apathy and forgetfulness in four years' time.

we have a responsability here to remind the electorate all across the city that he has been elected by the very active support of several individuals who are implicated in a major scandal. and even if none of these guys goes to the slammer, we cannot simply let this scandal disappear into the fog of memory.

there is a political machine in jersey city and hudson county. healy owns it. even if he is gone - resigned, in jail or in retirement - he is still the owner of the machine, and nothing will happen politically in the city without his knowledge, permission and patronage.

it is like killing weed. we can neutralize healy, but the body and his time will survive. and given their pure strength, they may be able to reelect some people who clearly are implicated in this scandal without being charged.

four years is a long time and memories fade fast.


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JRL wrote:
It will be interesting if/when Healy gets charged by the FBI, how Team Healy reacts. After all without that 3 million dollars which we now know had illegal contributions in their campaign war chest of money in which helped all of Team Healy get elected they might not have won their council seat. Those council races were close, some went to run-offs. That money helped put them over the top.

Even though Team Healy has not pushed for Vega's resignation, none of then seem Pro-Vega, or even make mention any longer of the Great Mayor Healy as Brennan would go lengths to say at the council meetings.

They all seemed very uncomfortable yesterday and not fit to run our city.

Mayor Healy, Mariano Vega and the members of the Healy Team have broken the trust of the residents of Jersey City.


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T-Bird wrote:
Speaking of the campaign.... Anyone else notice a huge difference between the posts of April and the discussions now? I am not reading any pro-Healy (or pro-Team Healy) posts on here. Sure, there's an occassional post that urges patience or questions someone's rush to judgment - but nothing that would qualify as a defense of him or Vega or the rest of the team. I find that telling.