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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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Credit to NJ.com for doing the research.

Posted on: 2015/12/21 14:03
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Re: Where can I print ~50 pages?
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I'm not sure if they have a page limit but the Library is by far cheapest option.

Posted on: 2015/12/9 15:17
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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Throw around whatever nasty accusations you want. They don't matter.

More and more people realize that personal safety comes above political correctness and avoiding hurting people's feelings. And that our enemies couldn't care about being PC in the slightest.

So keep talking about racism, xenophobia, bigotry, or whatever the latest buzzword is. Doesn't matter.


Obviously facts and even basic reality don't matter to you, as you are so happy to believe Trump's lies.

And personal safety? White supremacists are as dangerous as Islamists. White supremacists have killed twice as many Americans as radical Muslims since 9/11. Funny how white supremacists overwhelming support Trump.

Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/ ... of-top-terror-threat.html


So less than 1% of the population is responsible for 35% of terrorism related deaths. That's very alarming.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 17:23
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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mr. john kerry says it will take time for the us to defeat isis, but that it will be quicker than al-qaeda. it seems to me that isis defeated al-qaeda, and not the us. am i missing something?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/1 ... sis-idUSKCN0T833X20151119


AQ is alive and kicking. Jabhat Al-Nusra is AQ.

Posted on: 2015/11/20 15:27
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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I didn?t think I needed to post a list of murdered gay people for you to know that gay people are murdered due to hatred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_ ... ople_in_the_United_States

It is not an exclusive list to Christians, but there are enough in it that you can see the consistency.


And in how many primarily Christian countries is the state executing gay people?


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PEW data on what? Your sentence is vague and should include a link to the information you are claiming.


It was already posted in this thread.

http://www.pewforum.org/files/2013/04 ... s-society-full-report.pdf


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It doesn?t matter how many they killed. They weren?t part of a larger movement. They were extremists that were operating without a larger directive.

Here?s the problem: Your argument seems to be that we shouldn?t take in refugees because they might create a coordinated bombing.

Here?s what happened in France: A Belgian citizen along with several French citizens coordinated an attack. Along the way, they recruited someone from Syria.

In the end, I?m unsure why you?re more worried about an attack that is harder to bring forth (a massive coordinated attack like the one in Paris) versus an easier terrorist action, such as the Boston Bombing.


Lol are you kidding? Not part of a larger movement? You never heard of the concept of "Global Jihad"? The ideology is the movement! My only point is that Islam is incompatible with western values of equality and religious freedom. There are some inherent risks with accepting migrants from countries where regressive beliefs are so widespread.

Posted on: 2015/11/17 22:48
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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Your second sentence has been proven false. Otherwise we wouldn't have people speaking about the murder of gays with three presidential contenders...


Nope. If the biggest problem with Christian extremism is rhetoric not actions you have failed to prove your point.


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This is not actually proven true.

The question isn't whether radical Muslim views are held by Muslims in general. It is whether radical Muslim views are held by American Muslims.

Given the vast amounts of poverty throughout the Middle East and the type of anger, vitriol, hate and violence that such poverty creates (see gangs in America and recent shootings in JC), the concept that there are a lot of poor Muslims angry isn't far fetched. We know this is a problem with our own poor. However, we also see that this type of recruitment is significantly reduced.


Again you are wrong, check the PEW data. American Muslims don't exist in a vacuum.


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This is a false. The Boston bombers fall into the ?lone wolf? category as well. They were not part of a mission or coordinated attack. If anything, they can directly be compared with the brothers Benjamin and James Williams that I posted earlier. You have two people, influenced by bad elements and then acting upon it.

We have a lot of people of different stripes in Jersey City. Up close, we can see a variance of each of these here. Blanket claiming that Muslims are a problem is lazy and intellectually dishonest.

In reality, what does it really say about us when the governor of Texas uses ?because they can get guns easy? as a reason why he doesn?t want Syrian refugees? When statements like that are made, the issue isn?t Syrian refugees?


You never actually pointed out what was false. The Tsarnaev's only killed three people because they were lone wolf assailants. Those types of attacks aren't where the concern lies. What we need to be weary of is a coordinated attack carried out by multiple individuals. Those types of attacks have been carried out disproportionally by Islamic Terrorists. You are being dishonest with reality.

Posted on: 2015/11/17 22:10
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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And how many gay people has Mr. Swanson murdered? The belief that gay people should be killed is much more prevalent in the Islamic world and is state sponsored in some instances.

I don?t have a specific count on the number of people that Mr. Swanson has murdered. What I know is that he is openly expressing a desire to murder American citizens based purely on how they were born.

What I also know is that people like Benjamin Matthew Williams and [James Tyler Williams take this type of talk to heart and act on it. This is no different than those extremist priests in the Middle East screaming about murdering Americans. Well, it is, in fact, different because the person speaking is a white Christian?


Take over to abortions and you see that people like Scott Philip Roeder and Clayton Waagner have acted based on their faith as well.

Would it be acceptable to you for an American president to be scene with a Muslim screaming about killing Christians? Why is it acceptable that three presidential candidates to be on stage and hugging a guy that screams about killing gay people?

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Noted Syrian refugee, William Hudson, was likely screaming "Allahu akbar!" before shooting his gun off.


I like this strawman that because murder exists Islamic Terrorism isn't something to be concerned about. "See everyone does it!"

Where did I write that we shouldn't be worried about Islamic terrorism?


You are eagerly downplaying with these false equivalency arguments.

Eagerly??

I?m downplaying the idea that big scary brown Muslims is a myth. I?m saying that there are bad people of all stripes and colors. When it comes to the day to day fear and concerns that we should actually bear, Muslims don?t really register. There is a lot of other problems out there that we need to be addressing.



This is all a false equivalency. Christian extremism is not a problem in modern western society. These radical positions are rejected by most Christians but embraced by a sizable percentage of Muslims. Lone wolf attackers like Holmes that you cited do not pose the same danger as a group of coordinated ideologically motivated assassins. We've seen the worst case of what an individual can carry with Anders Breivik and of course that was horrible but Islamic Terrorists are capable of and have repeatedly carried out attacks on a much wider scale. An attack much greater than 9/11 is certainly a possibility.

Posted on: 2015/11/17 20:10
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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Noted Syrian refugee, William Hudson, was likely screaming "Allahu akbar!" before shooting his gun off.


I like this strawman that because murder exists Islamic Terrorism isn't something to be concerned about. "See everyone does it!"

Where did I write that we shouldn't be worried about Islamic terrorism?


You are eagerly downplaying with these false equivalency arguments.

Posted on: 2015/11/17 18:07
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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It's obvious that a literal interpretation of the koran is incompatible with western society.


True. Just like the old testament and much of the new testament.


Do modern Christians stone people? Honor Killings are still a thing in Islam.


Kevin Swanson held a rally in order to advocate for the murder of gay people. Sadly, three people running for president attended this event.

Honor killings aren't occurring in America at nearly the same rate as gay people are getting murdered due to bigotry...


And how many gay people has Mr. Swanson murdered? The belief that gay people should be killed is much more prevalent in the Islamic world and is state sponsored in some instances.


Posted on: 2015/11/17 18:05
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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Noted Syrian refugee, William Hudson, was likely screaming "Allahu akbar!" before shooting his gun off.


I like this strawman that because murder exists Islamic Terrorism isn't something to be concerned about. "See everyone does it!"

Posted on: 2015/11/17 17:58
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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It's obvious that a literal interpretation of the koran is incompatible with western society.


True. Just like the old testament and much of the new testament.


Do modern Christians stone people? Honor killings are still a thing in Islam.

Posted on: 2015/11/17 17:56
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Re: In case you missed the news.. major cooridinated Islamic terror attack in Paris
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It's obvious that a literal interpretation of the koran is incompatible with western society.

Posted on: 2015/11/17 17:36
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Re: Chick-fil-A, on the way!
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lol unless "organic" food are made in a vacuum they aren't going to be "chemical free", whatever that means. I've worked on a farm before and when they sprayed the shit blew everywhere including into the "organic farm" next door.

Posted on: 2015/11/12 16:36
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Re: Chick-fil-A, on the way!
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Organic is definitely bullshit.

Posted on: 2015/11/11 22:57
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Re: Powerhouse Lounge
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This place has been closed for months. Wonder if they will try another misguided reboot.

Posted on: 2015/11/4 1:19
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Re: Chick-fil-A, on the way!
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Excited about this, downtown needs better fast food options. Fuck your elitism.

Posted on: 2015/11/3 14:11
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Re: NO RESTAURANT AT 61 ERIE STREET
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I think some of your fears are a bit over the top (and you are doing a disservice to your cause by being so hyperbolic), but I certainly understand why residents on that street would be weary of this. Especially if you live in that or one of the adjacent buildings.

Posted on: 2015/10/28 20:10
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Re: regarding commercial property as a neighbor
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what makes you think they did something illegal? seems like an assumption based on nothing. you think city should maintain a policy of trying to keep storefronts vacant?

Posted on: 2015/10/28 4:10
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Re: Fulop would oppose Iran deal
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This deal will be a great coup for Bashar Al-Assad. I think it's highly likely Iran's unfrozen assets will be used to bolster Iranian proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, Assad).
I think it's highly likely it will be used to buy ice cream sundaes for a group of kids visiting the museum. I think both of our theories have equal merit and fact backing them up. I also think that 95% of the people with strong opinions on the Iran deal don't have a clue what's in it or what they're talking about, including a majority of politicians.


Are their assets not being unfrozen? Is Iran not funding various wars throughout the region? I don't care about the nuclear stuff because I don't think Iran is a threat to the US, but they will have increased capabilities at bringing more violence to the region. Assad has said himself he thinks the deal will lead to increased Iranian support.
Possibly, but you don't know that for sure. Besides, Saudi Arabia funnels lots of money towards violence in the area. So does Israel. And the UAE, , and Turkey, and Qatar, and Pakistan, and guess what, so does the USA! Why is Iran the odd one out getting all the hate?

That's all a red herring though, isn't it? This deal is about nuclear reactors. No amount of sanctions will stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons if they want them. Even starving, dirt poor North Korea made nukes. You can sanction them until you're blue in the face, it won't do a lick of difference. This deal gives the world access to their reactors, and makes it impossible for them to even attempt going for weapons-grade nuclear material without the entire world knowing (since they would have to construct tons of centrifuges and spend years working on it).

This deal finally gives the US and the rest of the World the access it wants to oversee Iran's nuclear program and ensure it's for civilian purposes only. It gives the world more diplomatic channels into "The Axis of Evil" and takes everyone a few steps back from the brink of war (bad news for the pro-war crowd who really wants to bomb Iran.

And yes, it unfreezes Iran's assets and sanctions. But you know what? Those sanctions can go right back in if needed. And sure, Iran may use some of it covertly, but Iran isn't nearly the boogeyman you think it is when compared to some of the stuff our "allies" in the area are doing.

The people opposed to this deal either have no idea what the deal does, or they have a simplistic view of the world that says the only way to get stuff done is to flex your dick and bomb countries. Because that always turns out sooooo well for the US.


Saudi Arabia and Iran are two sides of the same coin fighting for dominance. Both are bad, and believe me I wish we didn't prop up the House of Saud either.

It's almost guaranteed Iranian proxies will see some benefit from this. They already give those groups billions annually, I find it hard to believe they wouldn't increase their assistance now that they have the capability to do so. Maybe now the SAA can drop conventional weapons on civilians rather than barrel bombs.

I don't think Iran is a threat to the US, I'm fine the status quo. No war and no deal either.



Posted on: 2015/9/9 21:52
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Re: Fulop would oppose Iran deal
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This deal will be a great coup for Bashar Al-Assad. I think it's highly likely Iran's unfrozen assets will be used to bolster Iranian proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, Assad).
I think it's highly likely it will be used to buy ice cream sundaes for a group of kids visiting the museum. I think both of our theories have equal merit and fact backing them up. I also think that 95% of the people with strong opinions on the Iran deal don't have a clue what's in it or what they're talking about, including a majority of politicians.


Are their assets not being unfrozen? Is Iran not funding various wars throughout the region? I don't care about the nuclear stuff because I don't think Iran is a threat to the US, but they will have increased capabilities at bringing more violence to the region. Assad has said himself he thinks the deal will lead to increased Iranian support.

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Re: Fulop would oppose Iran deal
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This deal will be a great coup for Bashar Al-Assad. I think it's highly likely Iran's unfrozen assets will be used to bolster Iranian proxies (Hezbollah, Houthis, Assad).

Posted on: 2015/9/9 15:09
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Re: Monty's Public House
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EST. 2013

Posted on: 2015/8/26 20:55
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Re: Would-be thief tries ripping chain off JC man's neck (VIDEO)
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good idea robbing a guy who was holding a giant knife

Posted on: 2015/7/27 22:29
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Re: Chick-fil-A, on the way!
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Fast food kicks ass, I welcome some cheaper options downtown. Just wish they weren't all concentrated in the mall.

They aren't. You have McDonald's on Grove. You have Dunkin Donuts next to it. You have Little Sandwich Shop for a quick sandwich. There are pizza places all around. Hollywood Fried Chicken for that... Seems as though the fast food options are aplenty.


so pizza plus four places (one that only serves breakfast, and another with limited hours). that doesn't sound like many options. I welcome the addition of another affordable place, not everyone downtown is rich.

Posted on: 2015/7/21 15:23
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Re: Chick-fil-A, on the way!
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Fast food kicks ass, I welcome some cheaper options downtown. Just wish they weren't all concentrated in the mall.

Posted on: 2015/7/21 13:54
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Re: South House
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What kind of food do they have? Is it BBQ?

Posted on: 2015/7/20 18:03
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Re: Dinner/Bar-hopping advice
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Wow, this forum is getting nuts. The guy was simply asking for suggestions on where to take his wife out for a date night. When you're the parents of a 2-year-old life is pretty stressful and he has a babysitter for tomorrow. So he was asking for suggestions. Not levity, not sarcasm, not attacks. Just helpful suggestions and information. That's what this forum used to be about and still should be for those of us who live in JC (some of us for decades) and it sure would be nice if this forum could return to its original intent.

So it would be wonderful if people would post when they have something HELPFUL to add to the question at hand and otherwise not post at all-


you are taking this too seriously

Posted on: 2015/7/17 7:19
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Re: PILOT Program question
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You 100% would not get a hypothetical bill. Why would the City waste time producing that? Some municipalities don't even send you a bill if you have a PILOT, there is sometimes a fixed schedule of payments in the agreement.

Posted on: 2015/7/16 1:56
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Re: HELP Another Man's Treasure Vintage Store Move & Expand
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What happened to businesses taking out a loan?

Posted on: 2015/7/8 19:27
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Re: Newark Avenue Pedestrian Plaza -- Reopening?
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The green paint does a great job of absorbing heat.

Posted on: 2015/7/6 20:29
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