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Re: Is there anything you can do after getting your car keyed?
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My insight is that you shouldn't publicly accuse people of doing damage without proof. If that's trolling, I apologize. I'll delete my shut up, which was admittedly rude.

Posted on: 2010/11/5 16:59
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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brewster wrote:
Most of the time if you want to go into a field OTHER than handling large quantities of money, like the arts, education or social services, it's explained to you that you have a choice of doing what you love or getting rich. This clearly defines that there's non-monetary VALUE to a career in these fields. But somehow certain senior executives in these fields get to justify wresting outsized salaries by comparing their income to that of a banker or CEO (who rarely deserve the ridiculous amounts they get).


I am certainly not claiming, as a starving artiste myself, that there isn't value to an enriching and ennobling field in pottery. However, Ian is claiming that such ennobling and enriching fields have an equal monetary value as professions like doctor and lawyer - professions WHICH GENERATE ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF MONEY, which in turn used to pay doctors and lawyers their high salaries.

Ian seems to think that on the other hand, a school superintendent has some natural, moral right to make an enormous amount of money by virtue of having a longer education than some other professionals, which I believe is flat-out bullshit.

Now, I will state that I'd happily support a salary cap on CEOs and industrialists - say, a ceiling of 2 million dollars per year. But to try and say that superintendents should be paid beyond the value they generate because of some moral right disgusts me as much as any other form of robbery.

Posted on: 2010/11/4 19:30
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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^^^
I realize you're probably knocked senseless by the "shellacking." Would you like to continue this in a few days when the concussion fades?

Posted on: 2010/11/4 19:08
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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val·ue plus   
[val-yoo]
noun, verb, -ued, -u·ing.
–noun
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no relative worth, no merit, or no importance: no value; the value of nothing.


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Posted on: 2010/11/4 18:23
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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ianmac47 wrote:
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robotjustin wrote:
noun
1 - the material or monetary worth of something : prints seldom rise in value | equipment is included up to a total value of $500.

From my Mac built-in dictionary, you sicko.


Actually, your built in Mac dictionary said:

value |ˈvalyoō|
noun
1 the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance or preciousness of something : your support is of great value.
• the material or monetary worth of something : prints seldom rise in value | equipment is included up to a total value of $500.
• the worth of something compared to the price paid or asked for it : at $12.50 the book is a good value.
the usefulness of something considered in respect of a particular purpose : some new drugs are of great value in treating cancer.
• the relative rank, importance, or power of a playing card, chess piece, etc., according to the rules of the game.

I've highlighted the relevant portions.


1. You do realize that some definitions for the same word can be mutually exclusive, or have different... values, no?
2. The idea that you deride my public education is just too delicious. Thank you! I, for one, blame my grossly overpaid Superintendent.

To your misapprehension of definitions -
3.
1 the regard that something is held to deserve; the importance or preciousness of something

In the context of the SALARIES OF SUPERINTENDENTS, we are obviously talking about the MONETARY WORTH OF SOMETHING. In this case, labor vis a vis its effect on generating education that society deems to be worthwhile. In our society, for better or for worse, the typical way we define the success of education is future employment in a high-paying job, or in some capacity that benefits society as a whole. The vast majority of people leaving school will be seeking the former, and not the latter. As such, any fair (or fare, ha!) assessing of a Superintendent of schools job would be their success in fostering a learning environment which results in the most successful placement of graduates in positions that will allow them to earn the most money.

4.
• the usefulness of something considered in respect of a particular purpose

In this case, since WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VALUE VIS A VIS IT'S DIRECT MANIFESTATION AS A SALARY, we could rewrite the sentence as "monetary value is the usefulness of a superintendent, considered in respect of its worthwhile superintending."

Notice how at no time can the qualifier "monetary" be extricated from the sentence, since we are having the discussion regarding the SALARIES OF SUPERINTENDENTS.

Please, if you have some way to define the monetary value of a superintendent independent of the monetary value of a superintendent, please do share.

Posted on: 2010/11/4 18:22
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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noun
1 - the material or monetary worth of something : prints seldom rise in value | equipment is included up to a total value of $500.

From my Mac built-in dictionary, you sicko.

Posted on: 2010/11/4 17:38
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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^^^

That's the actual literal definition of value - you know, what something is worth monetarily.

If you and superintendents would like to somehow extricate yourself from this system, I suggest giving me all your money and material possessions so you can live free from the enslavement of basic, universal economic facts.

Posted on: 2010/11/4 14:34
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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Its not that the Hoboken PD does a better job, they're not dealing with the sheer volume Jersey City does everyday. If you think things are bad now just wait until February 1st when 100 cops get laid off. The city is doing it smart and waiting until the dead of winter when things are usually slow. A word of advice.....don't be out on the street on the first warm night of late spring. The job is gonna get real exciting again like the late 80s and early 90s. The waterfront should be kind of OK but the pioneer Yuppies who bought into the hood to get in on the ground floor of urban renewal are completely fu**ed. Oh Biff a newly renovated two bedroom overlooking Ercell Webb Park where our children can laugh and play in a multi cultural environment and to think we got the place at a steal. Oh Muffy its all part of the plan........good luck with that. No more narcotics unit, no more street crimes unit, just bare minimum manpower on each tour. Everybody cries that the cops make too much money, have too many benefits, are lazy etc.... They're knocking out pretty much a whole district in terms of manpower. Everybody on here who thinks the cops have it so good and should be cut are going to get thier wish. Think your taxes are going down when they get rid of these guys? The only thing going down is your property values. Might I add the majority of people living in JC rent. If you rent you dont pay real estate taxes so stop complianing about taxes. Only your landlord pays property tax.


1. Goodbye and good riddance. The crooked cops will be less dangerous as civilian criminals than as officially sanctioned criminals.

2. People who rent pay property taxes in the form of rent, duh.

Posted on: 2010/11/4 9:31
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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ianmac47 wrote:
Superintendents are highly educated and are not simply beginning their careers as executives of school systems. That's four years of undergraduate schooling, a master's degree, and at least a doctorate of education, or put another way, typically nine years of education beyond high school; all of that and typically many years spent working at lower paying positions as teachers and in school administration. By comparison, lawyers and business people spend less time in school with higher starting salaries. But I'm sure the best and the brightest will spend almost a decade in school so they can earn $175,000 a year placating a bunch of a-hole parents who earn more than they do.


The difference being of course that lawyers and business people generate wealth whereas superintendents generate future a-hole parents.

Posted on: 2010/11/4 9:27
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Re: Lincoln Park: Statue of Jesus as young boy is stolen from St. Aloysius Church
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MikeZ wrote:
Perhaps one of their clergy has an inflatable young boy they can use in its stead?


Hmm. Seems to me only a closet pedophile would be able to come up with the image you've so lovingly crafted.

Posted on: 2010/11/3 21:06
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Re: Albio Sires wins house seat
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So unionistas went out in full force for "yes," and everybody else stayed home.

Awesome New Jersey!

Posted on: 2010/11/3 12:16
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Re: 235 earn over $175,000 -- Christie pushes cuts & pay caps for school superintendents
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Real reform would be reducing the number of superintendents by eliminating school districts. Capping salaries just means driving qualified education executives into other fields or other states. Having more school districts than municipalities means a gross mismanagement of government resources.


But raising personal and business taxes doesn't drive wealthy people to other states?

BTW - Where is the evidence for any of your claims?

Posted on: 2010/11/2 17:02
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Re: Do we cut the public employees a break?
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^^^
Perfectly stated!

Posted on: 2010/10/31 20:56
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Re: Do we cut the public employees a break?
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STOP TELLING TEA PARTY LIES!!!!!!!!!

Posted on: 2010/10/31 15:54
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Re: Governor Christie halts new train tunnel into Manhattan due to cost overun
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^^

What I find amazing is that people who can accurately assess the awful intentions of the majority of elected Republican are incapable of doing the same for Democrats, and vice-versa.

Posted on: 2010/10/30 20:51
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Re: Governor Christie halts new train tunnel into Manhattan due to cost overun
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Yeah, not-blowing billions on a politically-motivated boondoggle is the exact equivalent of f-ing up Katrina.

Posted on: 2010/10/30 15:45
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Re: Governor Christie halts new train tunnel into Manhattan due to cost overun
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Dude, it's gonna be a rough couple weeks for you. I suggest booking double-time at your shrink.

Posted on: 2010/10/26 22:41
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Re: Developer prohibits volunteers from cleaning up contested Sixth Street Embankment
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Although thwarted by the evil developer Hyman, the Embankment Liberation Front kept their spirits high via an impromptu drum circle.


Posted on: 2010/10/26 22:32
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Re: Developer prohibits volunteers from cleaning up contested Sixth Street Embankment
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Binky wrote:
Ya know what?
My property extends to the curb in front of my house.
But that doesn't mean that I can keep anyone from walking on it.
And if I don't maintain it properly, the city can fine me or maintain it for me.
And then charge me for it.


If Hyman is breaking the law, then the city should fine him and maintain the property as cited above.

However, the Embankment Coalition is not the city, and they have no rights, moral or otherwise, to get on his property.

And you can certainly define who may or may not enter your property. We all agree, by our social contract, that in the city, people may pass over each other's private property via the sidewalk.

What I find so interesting here is that the no government agency ever saw fit to provide a sidewalk for citizens when they owned the land.

The right to travel via sidewalk does not apply to other activities - especially not having a social gathering.

I don't understand why it's so hard for people to understand the difference between what's theirs and what's other peoples.

Perhaps we all need to rewatch Sesame Street and go back to kindy garten.

Posted on: 2010/10/26 19:37
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Re: Developer prohibits volunteers from cleaning up contested Sixth Street Embankment
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1. I think Hyman is a douche.

2. It's still his property. He doesn't have to be consistent, and he doesn't have to accommodate his sworn hippie enemies. It's his property, to do what he wants with, within reason. And it is entirely reasonable to bar people he doesn't like and who don't like him from gettin' up on his grass.

Or do you think Hyman should be able to barge into YOUR house and start cleaning YOUR toilet?

Posted on: 2010/10/26 17:31
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Re: Developer prohibits volunteers from cleaning up contested Sixth Street Embankment
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Because it's not their property, and in the United States we have something called property rights.

Posted on: 2010/10/26 16:52
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Re: Developer prohibits volunteers from cleaning up contested Sixth Street Embankment
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I was in favor of saving the embankment until I read all the self-righteous crap in this thread and saw the picture of the doofy litter crew up above.

The only worry I have is that douche Hyman is going to build some ugly, Bayonne-style buildings. He should be forced to build stuff like the neat, contemporary row-houses in Liberty Harbor.

Tear down that wall, Mr. Healy!

And the parking deck at Newport while you're at it!

And most of C Columbus and Newark Avenues!

And Greenville, and the Heights, and Marion!

And Borinquen Gardens!

Thanks! That will be all!

Maybe they can move the stones from the embankment and just sort of drop them from helicopters all over the city, like our very own Easter Island Stonehenge.

Posted on: 2010/10/26 16:41
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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Once again - what are the proactive things we citizens can do?

Carry baseball bats!!!!!!!

0.40 cal Smith & Wesson ACP is preferred for me. Unfortunately.. this aint Vermont or Texas (or 46 other states that allow people to defend themselves)..
.. get mugged? Only thing legal in NJ is to defend yourself with harsh language.

Harsh language won't work it's not politicaly correct enough. Actually most of the Downtown new comers reek of political correctness with no backbone, sorry to say but it is time to refrain on that image you convey. Most of these mutants can pick out an out of towner especially Downtown where the money and pushovers are. These dopes wear sneakers, have all day to case the area and pick their prey. They are doing it in the obvious.


If you Jersey City originals are such scrappy bare-knuckle defenders of this great city, then why did downtown degenerate under your watch, and only become livable with the emigration of "out of towners?" Did you guys just abandon it?

Posted on: 2010/10/20 21:52
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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T-Bird wrote:
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robotjustin wrote:
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T-Bird wrote:
Who are all these people who are "defending" themselves in the 46 other states? How come there aren't a dozen stories a day about thwarted robberies, muggings etc. due to the armed citizenry?


Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I think the point is that the fact that the person you want to mug is probably carrying a gun acts as a deterrent.


Unlike your avatar (which, by the way, I love!), I wasn't being sarcastic. What you say seems quite sensible from a common sense perspective, if only it were true. Numbers don't seem to bear it out: 2007 Census Bureau Statistics

Total Violent Crimes (all numbers are per 100,000 people)

New York City 614
Newark 853
Houston 1,132
Dallas 1,069

Robbery
New York City 265
Newark 393
Houston 529
Dallas 583

Aggravated Assault
New York City 332
Newark 401
Houston 555
Dallas 429

Murder
New York City 6.0
Newark 37.1
Houston 16.2
Dallas 16.1

Total Property Crime

New York City 1,819
Newark 3,806
Houston 5,684
Dallas 6,776


Okay, so Newark stands out on murder (more than offset by the stark difference between NYC and Dallas/Houston.) Other than that, the numbers don't back up the claim that the option of arming citizens reduces crime.


These are interesting, but don't necessarily prove anything. The crime rates in Newark versus New York show, for instance, that population size doesn't proportionally increase crime rates. I'd be interested in also knowing the demographics of the perpetrators and the victims in Houston and Dallas. Is it MS-13 vs migrant worker? Black gangstar versus Hank and Bobby Hill? Ross Perot versus Ron Paul? What are the rates throughout Texas, proportional to rates in New Jersey?

Posted on: 2010/10/20 19:15
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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Crime in the area is an important issue and I think we can all agree that we would prefer to live in a community where carrying a concealed weapon is not necessary, regardless of your stance on the issue of gun ownership. We all can agree also that crime in Jersey City is on the uptick. Besides the economy, why is this? What should be done? I like JC but I will not stay here and have a family if this is a continuing trend. For one, I think we need to get our police out from behind desks and on the streets, and increase their numbers.

Basically, let's get back on topic.


I agree.

Here's an idea - maybe we can leave out bags of doughnuts or lines of coke on our stoops - so that while the boys in blue are grazing they might stop a crime once in awhile.

Also, neighborhood watch. Open your windows, turn on your lights. The street is the community, the public square. Own it.

Posted on: 2010/10/20 16:20
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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T-Bird wrote:
Who are all these people who are "defending" themselves in the 46 other states? How come there aren't a dozen stories a day about thwarted robberies, muggings etc. due to the armed citizenry?


Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I think the point is that the fact that the person you want to mug is probably carrying a gun acts as a deterrent.

Posted on: 2010/10/20 15:56
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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Boiled_Mussels wrote:
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You should move to Texas right now. Please don't waste any time doing it.


I don't understand. You think that people shouldn't be able to defend themselves against thugs who are out to do us all harm?

Oh right---you're part of that group that believes only criminals should have guns. Makes sense.


No. I think everyone should have guns. As a matter of fact, everyone should have uzi's and play tag with them in the park. We need citizens, thieves, and everyone else firing away at each other. That'll teach em!



Not that I am a fan of guns, but bullshit:

http://hnn.us/articles/871.html

Posted on: 2010/10/20 15:47
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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We have third-world cops to address third-world crimes in a city striving to be cosmopolitan.

The election cannot come soon enough. It's time for JC to grow up.

Posted on: 2010/10/20 0:33
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Re: Woman Robbed at Knifepoint on Mercer St.
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6:30!?!?!

Time to move to Hoboken!

Posted on: 2010/10/19 23:42
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Re: Paula Abdul is taping a dance show in Liberty State Park this weekend
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I walked by and it looked pretty neat.

Haters probably can't dance is all.

Posted on: 2010/10/18 3:10
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