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rofl. You remind me of Karl Rove in 2012 on election night when he denied that Ohio went to Obama. It's common knowledge that GV is more dangerous than downtown. EVERYONE knows it. Most numbers are estimates - duh. But estimates are based on crime reports. You can argue that crime is under reported in dtjc but I can make the same argument for GV. The comparison and numbers aren't even close though. GV is not just estimated to be a few crimes more dangerous than DTJC, the difference is staggering.
Posted on: 2015/4/22 21:28
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I love it. First you say that crime is based on some sort of NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST division which mixes in several neighborhoods (which I proved based on JC's own description of those divisions) and then you go ahead and report that you've been a victim of crime in the ZIP CODE 07302 - which is all downtown. lolol. So 07302 is more dangerous than GV now? No, I don't know that UCR data is granular and solely based on EAST, WEST, SOUTH, NORTH. I do know that when crime is reported on spotcrime and on nj.com, there are usually streets mentioned. Zip codes define neighborhoods pretty well also. It might not be a 1 to 1 ratio but it's pretty clear. Also, via area vibes. Chance of being a victom of crime in Downtown is 1 in 74. In GV, 1 in 35. Looks like you were the unlucky 75th person. On average of course. But whatever - downtown is just as dangerous. Carry on. downtown might as well be detroit too - both can be just as dangerous.
Posted on: 2015/4/22 20:51
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07302 is most of downtown. Those two areas are part of downtown too. My original point was that zip codes better define neighborhoods than whatever "east district" encompasses.
Posted on: 2015/4/21 18:40
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Posted on: 2015/4/21 18:06
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Newport is not dtjc. Newport is newport
Posted on: 2015/4/21 17:01
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Nope. http://www.njjcpd.org/east-district The border of DTJC is the I-78 to the west. Not Garfield. Nothing beyond I-78 is DTJC. Also has parts of JQ Square in the east district. DTJC is The Village, Exchange place, paulus hook, liberty harbor north, powerhouse arts district. the waterfront, harismus cove, hamilton park, van vorst park. I believe all have 07302 as a zip
Posted on: 2015/4/21 13:57
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Let's not guess. Let's see what the methodology is: http://www.areavibes.com/methodology/ Crime Rates The 2 main categories of crime are violent crime and property crime. Within each category there are various types of crime. Violent crime includes: murder, rape, robbery and assault. Property crime includes: burglary, theft and vehicle theft. A total crime index is based on all total crimes. Higher weights are given to violent crimes as they are more severe. The score is calculated based on comparisons to both state and national averages. Data Sources -FBI uniform Crime Reports Here's your argument - Sites use "meager" crime reporting data which may not present the whole picture. So hey, just because it was reported that there were 10 shootings in GV, doesn't mean there weren't 100 in DTJC. (Since we are just making up stuff, what makes one assume that the crime in GV is not UNDER Reported?). More importantly, even if we have actual numbers, our perceived safety is different than what occurs in the real world. For example, you may be walking past a gun fight and to some people, the whizzing of bullets may be soothing. Who knows? Who's to judge? Finally, even if there are actual numbers and someone perceives danger, most of it is gang related and none of us are gang members right. (Forget that almost all of the gang related shootings are in GV and BeLa and last I checked, bullets don't always hit gang members). Great argument for GV. You might be wondering why I care so much? Well, people on this board give horrible advice and people moving to JC do come to this board to look for advice on neighborhoods to live in. GV is a crime ridden area of JC and dramatic things need to happen but can't happen if we all lie to ourselves. If we care about the safety of others, why would you ever recommend GV as a place to live for someone. I don't even think I would do that to an enemy of mine..
Posted on: 2015/4/21 13:48
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DTJC is now known as EAST? I thought neighborhoods were defined by zip codes...as 07302 is mostly DTJC and 07304 and 07305 is Bela and GV. Please show me that 07302 shows less crime, especially violent crime than 07304 and 07305.
Posted on: 2015/4/20 22:09
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You can guess all you want. The facts don't support your guessing. Kids around the world guess Santa Claus exists because they get presents but that doesn't make it true. You are less safe in GV and BeLa than in DTJC. Period. That is fact.
Posted on: 2015/4/20 19:53
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You ever been to an AA meeting? the first phase is just admitting you have a problem. I would love for a greenville resident to come here and just say,
"Look, there is a huge crime problem in GV. We are the worst neighborhood in JC as it relates to crime. We need more patroling, we need mandatory curfew, we need to step up neighborhood watch, etc" Instead, statements like "Crime happens everywhere" w/o mentioning incidence "You have to watch where you are everywhere" w/o mentioning that in GV, you have to watch where you are every second. "Compared to the rest of NJ, we are pretty safe"...okay...I bet if you compare GV to Iraq, GV is like heaven on earth. Give me a break, please
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see! It is always "my stats" lolol. Yeah, I actually control all crime reporting. So you are comparing yourself to all of NJ including cities like Camden and Newark. Great, you do that. Greenville is Jersey City which is one of the reasons why JC has such a bad rep and also one of the reasons why my home value is not as much as a home in Manhattan. You show me a petition which Greenville asks to break off from JC and I'll be the first to sign.
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Not my opinion. GV is crime ridden. YOU LIVE IN A CRIME RIDDEN AREA. I'll link you to some stats but I await your post saying that the numbers are imaginary. http://www.areavibes.com/jersey+city-nj/greenville/crime/ http://www.areavibes.com/jersey+city-nj/downtown/crime/ More than twice as likely to get hit by violent crime in greenville than in dtjc. Why are you surprised by facts? PS: I saw that you claim to "live" in dtjc. Must be on the corner of imaginary and wish streets
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For those searching for homes who may come across this thread, yes crime can happen anywhere.
the INCIDENCE of CRIME is NOT the same. Look at crime rates and the highest crime ridden areas of JC are greenville and bergen lafayette with the safest neighborhood being DTJC. So those who keep stating crime can happen anywhere are just trying to downplay the safety within their own neighborhoods. Yes, crime can happen in the upper east side and in brownsville brooklyn but crime happens MORE in one neighborhood than the other - just guess...
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Cool story. Another GV or BeLa resident sad about living in those neighborhoods. Anyone can makeup stories on an internet forum. I can make up stories about crime in GV or BeLa too except I don't have to as nj.com posts those crime stories DAILY. In any case, anyone interested in dtjc just needs to look at crime stats.
Posted on: 2015/4/18 22:31
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It's not up to me. If baby gap can afford to buy the place, they buy it, if the public wants it there, they will be profitable and stay. If no one goes there, they close. I do my part in expressing my pleasure or displeasure with stores. For example, every time I walk by a 99 cent store, I make it a point to look at the people judgingly as to discourage them from walking in so that the store may eventually close. Feel free to do the same at baby gap.
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So we shouldn't do anything "you" don't see as being good for downtown right? If baby gap opened and was profitable that still would not matter because you don't see it as being good? You related to Julius Cesar in any way?
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http://www.census.gov/censusexplorer/censusexplorer.html Type in your zip code. People are not poor in the dtjc area. A single person can pay 2500 easily with those median incomes. Median income in my neighborhood is 99k. People are not doing what user is suggesting. Maybe in his neighborhood where median income is 32k. Don't listen to a GV resident about real estate in DTJC. Might as well ask someone from ohio...
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I would also say that DTJC and Hoboken are pretty much separate from the rest of JC in terms of real estate.
We need to aim to have those Manhattan prices here. DTJC and Hoboken buildings offer better amenities, more space, and better finishes than MOST NYC doorman buildings. So let's not undersell ourselves.
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If you live in a doorman building with amenities in dtjc, don't go below 2500. IN Manhattan, you can't find a 1BR doorman building with amenities for less than 3500. Stop underselling dtjc. I am about to lease my unit too and will put it at 3000 and see if anyone bites.
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No one is forcing someone to live in a certain neighborhood. Just because you have been here for 50 years doesn't mean you deserve to be here for another 50 years, especially if you can no longer afford to live in the area. The fact that the population yous peak of is here and paying their rent means that they are able to live here - even if that consists of 20% or 90% of their salary. They don't have to live up to a subjective standard you set.. People like yvonne and the rest here is exactly why JC is taking so long to make it. Good, you bought a house here while dinosaurs roamed JC, thank you. That doesn't mean you get to dictate what happens to JC for all of us...and especially if you can't pay your rent. The first people who bought the iphone for $1000 are listened to no more than those who are buying the newest iteration of the iphone. The neighborhood owes nothing to you. You are one voice, no matter how disgruntled you are. Deal with it. Prices are rising and back to my original point, get a better paying job - something you are in control of...
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instead of wishing for the same or even lower rents and wishing your community doesn't improve how about you find a better paying job...
Posted on: 2015/4/15 17:35
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No, better idea - let's build stores you can afford to buy stuff from and places you could afford to live in. So let's build 100 more 99 cent stores so you can go on a shopping spree..yay!
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DTJC is so far apart from your section of JC user it minus well be the difference between the upper east side of Manhattan and Inwood, Manhattan. And whenever user mentions aholes, he is referring to people who care a damn to get a better paying job than him. Just so everyone knows...
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sleep cheap national discount store 99 cent dream super discount That meets the strict criteria of having those words in the name. Although most would also agree that ch martin and rainbow aren't necessarily targeting the rich and famous... You mean standards of the majority of americans? Cheap is walmart, 99 cent is desperate.
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where do you live? cause it's not dtjc. Right now, that special feel is the "99 cent value bargain feel" as there are at least 4 stores with the words cheap, dollar, bargain, and value in them within a 5 block radius. We could use a lot more chain stores. In fact, how about we propose that we can only have 1 value/99 cent store within a half a mile of each other. If we want government overreach, let's at least overreach in the right direction...
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It's just so ironic.
It's not like these mom and pop stores' number one priority is to better the neighborhood. Their number one priority is to make money. If it was any different, then they wouldn't charge some of the prices they do for their food. Take Cocoa Bakery for example - they offer expensive baked goods at similar pricing as Starbucks and many times, they don't have a full inventory... These mom and pop stores charging the prices they do in fact cause more displacement of the middle class which isn't what you anti-free market people are against?
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Let me first say, this is anti-free market at its finest. Even though I consider myself progressive, this is beyond stupid. I am disappointed in mayor fulop for suggesting this.
Secondly, so many jealous individuals on jclist. "overpriced, bland, chain, etc." when you are really jealous that other people have more money than you to live in dtjc. How about if you don't like dtjc, don't live in the area. It's not like you have a choice anyway because you are too poor anyways. Sorry, I meant dtjc is overpriced lol Haters going to hate.
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Unless it's manhattan, why would anyone rent a place w/o a washer/dryer in the unit? Even in dtjc...washers and dryers in units are common...
However, we are probably looking at diff types of buildings...
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You are incorrect. 1) Club Barks and a concierge dry cleaner are located on the ground floor of GC and are operating just fine. So those are the two ground floor retail units. Not sure which one you are comparing to a chevys?? 2) DTJC doesn't compete with Crown heights ?? Where are you getting this? DTJC is competing against areas like brooklyn heights and the financial district of manhattan. Compared to those places, DTJC is a bargain for the amenities residents receive. DTJC is a bargain compared to NYC.
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