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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Looks like non-condo owners are seeing the biggest tax benefits. Commercial properties look like the net losers.

The value of vacant land is much less than I thought it would be...

Posted on: 2017/12/14 15:30
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Posted on: 2017/12/14 15:28
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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dr_nick_riviera wrote:
Can someone explain the distinction between the Downtown section and the "12 UNITS OR LESS(Resi NBHDs)" on this document here?

http://jerseycity.hosted.civiclive.co ... ndo%20NBHD%20Analysis.pdf

Average increase for Downtown condos looks to be 30% but the "12 UNITS OR LESS(Resi NBHDs)" is about 10%. Does this mean that smaller, walkup condo buildings in Downtown can expect an increase of less than 30%?


FINALLY!!

1.62% ?!? Much higher than I thought, even though property taxes are going down. Makes to sense.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 15:26
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Quote:

bodhipooh wrote:
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jc201jc wrote:
http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/RevaluationUpdate

if you click "1-4 family neighborhood analysis" on the bottom of the page, it opens a PDF with average tax increases by neighborhood. Downtown JC taxes are looking to go up by 50% (unless I'm misinterpreting the table). But...tell me again how the housing prices won't be affected by this?


Going by the document, it looks like the increases in DTJC are anywhere from mid 50% to 75%, with the sole exception of the Van Leer neighborhood (WTF is that?) which is expected to go up by only 41%.

Interesting... I expected DT to get even higher increases. But, overall, the picture is bleak for the administration in terms of optics. Just as had been argued and pointed out multiple times prior to the reval, the current tax situation was a reverse Robin Hood scenario, and the numbers are damning. EVERY neighborhood outside of DTJC is going to see reductions, some quite substantial, with five rare exceptions, expected to have minor increases, three of which are under 5%.

And, it seems like they are expecting the tax rate to come out at about 1.62%. While that is welcome news for the DTJC homeowners, it is likely bad overall for the city, as pressure is likely to increase to force JC to take on a larger share of the local school budget if the property tax rate is so low compared to other NJ towns. At 2%, the city could argue that anything higher was a huge burden on residents, but at 1.6%, I believe that would be one of the absolute lowest property tax rates in the state (outside of Cape May county) and makes us a target for increased pressure.


The Heights and JSQ averages seem super low especially for the Heights which had the greatest increase this year in prices.

Also, how could anyone whos taxes arent increasing / substantially dropping (greenville & west side) complain that downtown isnt paying enough ? Seems like everyone wants a free ride these days

Posted on: 2017/12/14 15:24
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Re: Dish TV Users - Are you happy with service ?
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can't speak for Dish, but i have Directv and it's great. I don't get outages unless there's a blizzard or some sort of severe storm. Regular rain/snow won't affect my image. I do have YES/MSG and CBS. And the DVR functionality is great/easy to use.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 14:50
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Re: Dish TV Users - Are you happy with service ?
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Our building has an agreement with some middleman that basically forwards the Dish Network's service. I do get outages in particularly bad weather. Not all the time, and usually not for long. But it's noticeable.

Then there's the fact that Dish Network doesn't carry YES network or MSG. They even got into a dispute with CBS and weren't carrying them for a while!

We just got FIOS installed in our building and I'm looking to switch the other way, so I am curious about your experience!

Posted on: 2017/12/14 14:46
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Can someone explain the distinction between the Downtown section and the "12 UNITS OR LESS(Resi NBHDs)" on this document here?

http://jerseycity.hosted.civiclive.co ... ndo%20NBHD%20Analysis.pdf

Average increase for Downtown condos looks to be 30% but the "12 UNITS OR LESS(Resi NBHDs)" is about 10%. Does this mean that smaller, walkup condo buildings in Downtown can expect an increase of less than 30%?

Posted on: 2017/12/14 14:24
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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brewster wrote:
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bodhipooh wrote:
Anyway, really interested to see what others have to say/opine about the property tax rate potentially coming out at 1.62% and what the implications may be for our city and residents.


So many moving targets it's hard to guess where it'll end up. Is the rate vs home value a zero sum game where your increase stays the same? My DT taxes are $17k, I won't be surprised if they double, but I've done well over 20 years on value and rents. I'm sure I'd be less zen if I bought recently.


Just to clarify, that 1.62% number was taken from the document (linked earlier) provided by the city as an update on the ongoing reval now that it is 85% completed. Based on that, I am guessing the final rate will be somewhat close.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 14:12
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Re: Rep. Albio Sires & Net Neutrality
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Congress can apparently countermand the FCC with a CRA (Congressional Review Act) so keep the pressure on Congress if you want net neutrality to survive.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 13:31
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Quote:

bodhipooh wrote:
Anyway, really interested to see what others have to say/opine about the property tax rate potentially coming out at 1.62% and what the implications may be for our city and residents.


So many moving targets it's hard to guess where it'll end up. Is the rate vs home value a zero sum game where your increase stays the same? My DT taxes are $17k, I won't be surprised if they double, but I've done well over 20 years on value and rents. I'm sure I'd be less zen if I bought recently.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 12:57
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Quote:

brewster wrote:
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bodhipooh wrote:
Going by the document, it looks like the increases in DTJC are anywhere from mid 50% to 75%, with the sole exception of the Van Leer neighborhood (WTF is that?) which is expected to go up by only 41%.


I believe Van Leer is the area by 18th & Coles, where a chocolate factory once stood.

As for AMo, you can't expect everyone to recall every detail of every thread, even if they read it. This is not a "true names" site, no one should be called out for anonymity, though civility would be nice (excepting extreme provocations like mealymouthed hypocrisy).


18th & Coles... that's the area now christened as SoHo West by real estate dolts, right?

As for AMo, and the matter of anonymity, I agree that using that as a argument to dismiss an opinion or post is silly. This BBS is definitely based on screen names (some of which can be easily "translated" to real life names with a quick Google search, such as mine) so I agree with your overall post/logic. I was just pointing out that Aaron has been forthcoming about his real name on several other threads, so I wouldn't necessarily say he is anonymous in here.

Anyway, really interested to see what others have to say/opine about the property tax rate potentially coming out at 1.62% and what the implications may be for our city and residents.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 12:36
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Re: Pipe Bomb went off in Port Authority in Mamhattan - only bomber injuried
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JSleeze wrote:
These issues are incredibly complex and are going to require a lot more thought than it takes to jam a massive tax break through congress in days just so you can appease your donors and have a "win". They won't be solved by one "team" "winning" in this endless political super bowl we seem to be engaged in.


I heard an amazing point from Megan McArdle of Bloomberg on Econtalk, one of the best podcasts out there:

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America is like a marriage. It's like a marriage in a country with no divorce. You cannot win a marriage. You can only win something that ends before you do. And so, you can't just beat the other 50% of the population. They are here. You've got to figure out a way to live with them. If we want, we can have a bad marriage. There were lots of them around before divorce was legal. There are still some around now. We can have a terrible marriage where we scream at each other and we are bitter; we say nasty things to each other all the time. But you don't win that. You lose that. You lose that. Because, now you are in a miserable marriage. And the other person has just as much power to hurt you as you have to hurt them. And that is, I think, in a lot of ways the lesson of Trump--is that people--and you know, you can also say the lesson of gay marriage, where social conservatives turned around and said, 'Why is everyone beating me up?' and, like, 'Well, these people felt like you were beating them up for a long time, that's why.'


http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2017/10/megan_mcardle_o.html

Posted on: 2017/12/14 12:32
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Re: Pipe Bomb went off in Port Authority in Mamhattan - only bomber injuried
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Sensible reform is always welcome, but simply doing away with chain migration is ridiculous. The 'best and brightest' may not even want to come here if they can't bring their family over. My point is to not make bizarre conclusions because one jackass decided to terrorize subway riders. Politics has nothing to do with it, it is pure math.

As for changes to chain migration, sure. After going through all the background checks, the legal fees, etc. It would be nice to have less wait time. Some people wait decades. The system is capped yearly so lengthy waits are unavoidable but 20+ years? That's crazy.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 12:12
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

iGreg wrote:
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bodhipooh wrote:


Wow. Is this a recent change? I used to launch my kayak from there often and never had an issue. I was not even aware that there is/was a fee to park there. Is there any signage to that effect? Also, where does one buy/pay for a launch ticket to avoid a parking fine? Thanks!


For boat/trailer receipt you'd pay way down the end in the small office/administration building (near flags).

Also looking for an update on this as I've not done it in years but I'd go out solo with a Klepper Kayak and gotten ticketed for leaving my car in that lot.

It's a drag to leave your gear on that little dock and then have to park your car down much further in the free lots.


There's a separate "Car top Boat Launch" designated in the last lot so you don't have to deal with the ramp fees at all. That's all I've ever used. It's just a nasty rocky beach, but they have a no parking/loading zone right by the break in the fence if you don't have wheels or you can't get a spot close.

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Posted on: 2017/12/14 11:56
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Quote:

bodhipooh wrote:
Going by the document, it looks like the increases in DTJC are anywhere from mid 50% to 75%, with the sole exception of the Van Leer neighborhood (WTF is that?) which is expected to go up by only 41%.


I believe Van Leer is the area by 18th & Coles, where a chocolate factory once stood.

As for AMo, you can't expect everyone to recall every detail of every thread, even if they read it. This is not a "true names" site, no one should be called out for anonymity, though civility would be nice (excepting extreme provocations like mealymouthed hypocrisy).

Posted on: 2017/12/14 11:46
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

bodhipooh wrote:


Wow. Is this a recent change? I used to launch my kayak from there often and never had an issue. I was not even aware that there is/was a fee to park there. Is there any signage to that effect? Also, where does one buy/pay for a launch ticket to avoid a parking fine? Thanks!




For boat/trailer receipt you'd pay way down the end in the small office/administration building (near flags).

Also looking for an update on this as I've not done it in years but I'd go out solo with a Klepper Kayak and gotten ticketed for leaving my car in that lot.

It's a drag to leave your gear on that little dock and then have to park your car down much further in the free lots.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 11:45
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Quote:

jc201jc wrote:
http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/RevaluationUpdate

if you click "1-4 family neighborhood analysis" on the bottom of the page, it opens a PDF with average tax increases by neighborhood. Downtown JC taxes are looking to go up by 50% (unless I'm misinterpreting the table). But...tell me again how the housing prices won't be affected by this?


Going by the document, it looks like the increases in DTJC are anywhere from mid 50% to 75%, with the sole exception of the Van Leer neighborhood (WTF is that?) which is expected to go up by only 41%.

Interesting... I expected DT to get even higher increases. But, overall, the picture is bleak for the administration in terms of optics. Just as had been argued and pointed out multiple times prior to the reval, the current tax situation was a reverse Robin Hood scenario, and the numbers are damning. EVERY neighborhood outside of DTJC is going to see reductions, some quite substantial, with five rare exceptions, expected to have minor increases, three of which are under 5%.

And, it seems like they are expecting the tax rate to come out at about 1.62%. While that is welcome news for the DTJC homeowners, it is likely bad overall for the city, as pressure is likely to increase to force JC to take on a larger share of the local school budget if the property tax rate is so low compared to other NJ towns. At 2%, the city could argue that anything higher was a huge burden on residents, but at 1.6%, I believe that would be one of the absolute lowest property tax rates in the state (outside of Cape May county) and makes us a target for increased pressure.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 11:37
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

iGreg wrote:
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Monroe wrote:
The boat launch lot has a fee.


Used to launch a small boat there and if you parked in the lot with a trailer attached you needed a receipt in the window showing that you paid - you could launch a kayak and leave your car in that area for free if a trailer was not present, but understand they started ticketing any cars in there w/o a launch receipt.




Wow. Is this a recent change? I used to launch my kayak from there often and never had an issue. I was not even aware that there is/was a fee to park there. Is there any signage to that effect? Also, where does one buy/pay for a launch ticket to avoid a parking fine? Thanks!

Posted on: 2017/12/14 11:22
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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brewster wrote:
Land in the middle is not a replacement for the waterfront. When I launch my kayak there I'm always astonished at the number of people who drive there and just sit in their cars taking in the view. Not my style, but it's PUBLIC ACCESS to a PUBLIC ASSET.

This has a lot in common with Trump removing protections for western lands. Taking public assets and giving them away to private interests.


YES! And I'm not sure that the birds that nest south of the marina would welcome all the boat traffic.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 10:55
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/RevaluationUpdate

if you click "1-4 family neighborhood analysis" on the bottom of the page, it opens a PDF with average tax increases by neighborhood. Downtown JC taxes are looking to go up by 50% (unless I'm misinterpreting the table). But...tell me again how the housing prices won't be affected by this?

Posted on: 2017/12/14 10:55
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

Monroe wrote:
The boat launch lot has a fee.


Used to launch a small boat there and if you parked in the lot with a trailer attached you needed a receipt in the window showing that you paid - you could launch a kayak and leave your car in that area for free if a trailer was not present, but understand they started ticketing any cars in there w/o a launch receipt.



Posted on: 2017/12/14 10:40
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Re: Pipe Bomb went off in Port Authority in Mamhattan - only bomber injuried
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It's interesting to watch people of opposite political views go at each other without trying to see the other side so we can solve the problem. Chain migration was done with little oversight or focus on the mindset of the "family member" being granted the privilege of entry into the US. This needs to be done much more carefully.

But I also get the desire to have family members who want to come to the US to be with other family members to experience the American opportunities (freedom and protection from oppression). There is a way to balance these two ideologies. Open borders and Globalization is a recipe for total disaster. So is unchecked chain migration.

We pay a ton of money (billions a year) to government officials so they can figure out a way to make this work while keeping Americans as safe as possible. Lets get them to do their job and stop the partisan trash talk.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 8:52
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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The boat launch lot has a fee.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 8:41
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

iGreg wrote:
Quote:

brewster wrote:
When I launch my kayak there I'm always astonished at the number of people who drive there and just sit in their cars taking in the view. Not my style, but it's PUBLIC ACCESS to a PUBLIC ASSET.



Are you able to leave your car there (in the launch parking area) or do you need to pay and have a recipe for boat launch to use the ramp as a kayak put it?


The south end of the park is heaven and not commercialized and hopefully can stay this way.



If he is referring to the public boat launch area, that lot appears to be free. Some weekends that launch parking lot is packed and I have never seen signs indicating there is a parking fees or boat launch usage fee.

The area is patrolled by Park Police / JCPD and it is a watercraft staging area for the State Police Hudson River Training. Can't imagine the proposal leaves that free water access open.


Posted on: 2017/12/14 7:06
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

brewster wrote:
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135jc wrote:
Fulop can play hardball here but folds to developers and increases the paulus hook height restriction. The truth is any footprint a marina would take up can be made up by expanding into the areas of the park that are not open to the public. Make the marina pay for the remediation of the land and for the bulk head. LSP is a beautiful space but huge and if done right this could be a nice addition to the South end


So tell us, how often are you at the south end? Sounds like never. Land in the middle is not a replacement for the waterfront. When I launch my kayak there I'm always astonished at the number of people who drive there and just sit in their cars taking in the view. Not my style, but it's PUBLIC ACCESS to a PUBLIC ASSET.

This has a lot in common with Trump removing protections for western lands. Taking public assets and giving them away to private interests.


While I agree that land in the middle is no replacement for waterfront areas, I do think that a thoughtfully drawn plan for this could yield a result of a nicely integrated marina that does not inhibit public access as it exists today. I just came back from a trip overseas in which I got to enjoy a bunch of waterfront areas that incorporated marinas, walking trails, cycling lanes, and other amenities, and it seemed quite nice to be able to have it all in harmony. I am not sure why it is that assumed as fait accompli that any marina here would preclude the public from being able to continue enjoying the waterfront.

At the risk of getting clobbered or flamed, why not support a plan/proposal that allows for a marina while ensuring unencumbered public access to the waterfront and the amenities that currently exist (or, even upgraded ones paid for by the marina leaseholder?) and enjoy the windfall of some extra revenue to help with park maintenance and upkeep.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 6:53
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

iGreg wrote:
Quote:

brewster wrote:
When I launch my kayak there I'm always astonished at the number of people who drive there and just sit in their cars taking in the view. Not my style, but it's PUBLIC ACCESS to a PUBLIC ASSET.



Are you able to leave your car there (in the launch parking area) or do you need to pay and have a recipe for boat launch to use the ramp as a kayak put it?


The south end of the park is heaven and not commercialized and hopefully can stay this way.


The question was not directed at me, but I will answer it since I have also used that ramp on a bunch of occasions to launch my kayak: I normally unload my stuff on the area around the boat launch (kayak, life preserver, oars/paddles, dog, etc) and then move the car to the surface parking lot area and leave it there until I get back. No issues, no hassles.

My only complaint about the launch area and channel tere is that the asswipes from Liberty National have a boat tender that whisks members from elsewhere (most likely the WTC area) and they show zero courtesy to others by speeding inside the channel, causing a fairly large wake that is just annoying for other small crafts, particularly canoes or kayaks. Slowing down to leave next to no wake would be the right and courteous thing to do.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 6:47
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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Quote:

brewster wrote:
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AMo wrote:
So what I don't do is respond to attacks from people too cowardly to identify themselves.


You seem pretty anonymous to me, AMo. Plenty of people know who I am, but I can't claim to not be anonymous here.


Huh? He has publicly identified himself in other threads, particularly the one about the pedestrian plaza, the one about the "food trucks wars" and the one about the chain businesses ordinance.

Posted on: 2017/12/14 6:39
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Re: Just say 'no' to 'millionaires' marina on the south side of Liberty State Park
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Quote:

brewster wrote:
When I launch my kayak there I'm always astonished at the number of people who drive there and just sit in their cars taking in the view. Not my style, but it's PUBLIC ACCESS to a PUBLIC ASSET.



Are you able to leave your car there (in the launch parking area) or do you need to pay and have a recipe for boat launch to use the ramp as a kayak put it?


The south end of the park is heaven and not commercialized and hopefully can stay this way.

Posted on: 2017/12/13 23:35
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Re: Rep. Albio Sires & Net Neutrality
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He posted 5 hours ago on FB that he voted to delay the net neutrality vote and remove it from tomorrow's agenda. Not clear if he means remove all together tho

Posted on: 2017/12/13 22:48
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Dish TV Users - Are you happy with service ?
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Hi All,
Getting tired of Verizon and having to pay for Fios service plus cable boxes, etc... Curious what DISH TV users think? Is there a lot of weather interference affecting service? Are you happy with DISH services? How's there internet service? and what are you using if for phone service (I need a wired service for work). Any feedback is appreciated.
Happy Holidays!

Posted on: 2017/12/13 22:41
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