ianmac47 wrote:
Healy said crime is down.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
It should never be something exclusive or out of reach to those who may not be able to avoid it.

neverleft wrote:
Yeah way too much to clean up that mess of land. Also same thing with the Bayonne golf course too costly for city to clean it up. At least both courses have public walk ways along the water so we can see how the other half lives. If you have never taken the Bayonne walkway try it it is really cool. Heli pad and Yacht dock included in the tour.

neverleft wrote:
I don?t know if the car pound privatization passed yet. Let?s hope the Pump lot and the adjacent Car Pound lot doesn?t go to a developer who will NOT let the citizens of JC use it. Like our ..err I mean their Liberty National Golf Course.

dtjcview wrote:
Are you OUT OF YOUR #OOPS#ING MINDS?

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Belgium can kiss my American ass.

And don't be calling bullshit on my can-do spirit, bud, because I came to this country from rotten Europe with $100 to my name, and now I am proudly a 1-percenter, in the OWS parlance.

Every cent of it earned by hard, honest work, not WS shenanigans. Could never happen in Europe. Please tell the kind Belgians to go eff themselves from me. Thanks so much.

how are you American if you came here from Europe?

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Belgium can kiss my American ass.

And don't be calling bullshit on my can-do spirit, bud, because I came to this country from rotten Europe with $100 to my name, and now I am proudly a 1-percenter, in the OWS parlance.

Every cent of it earned by hard, honest work, not WS shenanigans. Could never happen in Europe. Please tell the kind Belgians to go eff themselves from me. Thanks so much.

I conveyed a simple observation made by two people from northwestern Europe who were not particularly interested in finding fault or generating criticism of the United States, and because of that they?re supposed to kiss your ass and go screw themselves? Your alleged ?can do? spirit is unimpressive because it?s a narrow-minded, ?I can do for myself, and the rest of you can go to Hell,? attitude that?s reflected in the ease with which you?re willing to dismiss tremendous national problems that are specifically addressed by peer nations. You are saying, ?No, we can?t do that.?

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I take Cory seriously. Because he's absolutely right.

Anonymous cowards on jclist don't count.

Frank_M wrote:
Socialist nanny-state, huh? Thanks, I was wondering how long it would take you to regurgitate that hackneyed line. Free enterprise? That sounds great on paper, but the concept of free enterprise is raped on a daily basis by entities too large to even comprehend their own nature, much less if what they accomplish is healthy for the nation.

When ?people like you? so easily dismiss the dehumanizing effect our ?imperfect? society has on such a large number of its citizens, you?re the ones who are seemingly content to be lazy, know-it-all, entitled, cowards blindly rushing toward a dead-end that we?ll all have to share. I?m calling bullshit on your ?can do? spirit.

My wife and I had two very kind guests from Belgium visit last evening. Coincidentally, one of their comments about what they?ve seen here included the phrase ?third world country,? and they weren?t trying to be cynical. Rather, they were genuinely saddened by it. While that may be acceptable for ?people like you,? I would be ashamed to be content with that.

hero69 wrote:
I can't wait to have a chai latte on the Embankment. Maybe with Snooki and the Situation.

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I want my park.

And you want ME to pay for it.

So say it.

Just say it.

You will pay for it just as you paid the pension of a 52 year old retired JCPD officer who lives in New Smyrna Beach, Florida.

JPhurst wrote:
I have never taken credit personally for the Embankment being saved. The Conservancy was a supporter, and I did serve as President for 3 1/2 years, but support was established by my predecessors and continued by my successors.

The EPC has been the main organization, of course. And there are several people who have put in a lot more time, money and effort and my defense of them on this board has not been to preserve any legacy of myself. Rather, it has been a defense of those ill-informed, cynical, and hateful attacks on good people who have done work for no personal benefit.

Calling someone a "fraud" could be conceived as many as defamatory. But since no one takes you seriously I don't really care.

hero69 wrote:
I want my park.

hero69 wrote:
The Wall Street Journal has an interesting article on Jersey City's High Line hopes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001 ... html?KEYWORDS=jersey+city

I remember when people said the High Line was a WASTE!

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Open space is at a premium in Jersey City. We need more of it.

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I think one thing that corybraiterman and I are trying to raise that is obviously falling on deaf ears here (no surprise) -

THIS IS NOT MONEY WELL SPENT.

The city does not have the 7 million to buy out Hyman, and does not have untold millions more to develop that "historic" structure into a park.

Oh, wait, maybe they do - they will pick MY pocket.

Me, who will use the Embankment Park maybe one time, like I used the Highline in NYC.

Once, and that was enough.

So you are brazenly telling me that because YOU believe it should be a park, all of JC taxpayers should pay for it.

Wow.

Could there not be a more productive way to make your argument than continue to type a redundant argument on a board with "deaf ears"? Perhaps put together your own association to argue your points at say city hall or take it to the paper? Maybe that will help you feel heard and as a taxpayer you can feel like you're doing something if you think this is so wrong.

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An ill-informed public represents a weakness that has a negative effect on an entire society. I don?t care if you identify yourself as conservative or liberal, only that you use your head in a way that allows you to comprehend both the strengths and weakness of your own opinions in both a subjective and objective context. Unfortunately, the refusal to be self-critical is a selfish trend that seems to be more prevalent among Americans than our peers in other advanced nations. If you don?t see the weaknesses of your own opinions, there?s a good chance that they are poorly formed opinions. Go ahead and vote on those grounds if you like, just don?t be surprised to find you've made a laughing stock of your nation.

Well put. Unfortunately the modern American political system is based on swaying the "undecided", who are usually there due to ignorance. Don't get me wrong, there's plenty of ignorance among the decided voters, but they're not being contested. So the basic campaign is more or less who can say the simplest, most stripped of nuance argument for themselves and their policy. Nuance doesn't work on the ignorant, they have no context to process it in.

@Frank_M and brewster:

Yeah, in Europe the voters are much less ignorant than here (or so they say), and lately it has economically sucked over there much more than here.

The bottom line is that it does not matter.

The "smart" Europeans got in an even deeper shite than "dumb" Americans.

I suppose you could compare the United States to say, Greece, instead of Germany, but only if you wanted to present an ill-informed opinion that compares apples to oranges. In the meantime, read up on the use of wind power and other renewable energy sources in Germany since that?s the subject at hand.