S.E Cupp, a Republican political strategist and CNN "Crossfire" host, said that Christie was "very believable" and "humble and contrite" during his lengthy appearance that she noted would satisfy some people.

"He's not completely out of the woods," Cupp said, noting that there are more questions to be asked.

John King, CNN's chief national correspondent, said it was a defining moment for Christie in terms of his credibility.

"He stood there and took it," King said of the barrage of questions from reporters, noting that his demeanor was uncharacteristically low key. "He understood the gravity of the moment."

CNN Chief Political Analyst Gloria Borger said that Christie did well, expressing humiliation and apologizing. But she said he did not answer why one of his top aides thought apparent retribution was a good thing to do.

"The reasoning behind this still remains an issue," she said.

But situation still could deepen Christie's political woes, David Gergen, a CNN senior political analyst, said on Wednesday.

"If a woman died here," he said of the public safety issue raised in Fort Lee, "he's in deep, deep trouble."

Even if he had nothing to do with the traffic snarls, the allegations could have serious consequences for the two-term governor, analysts said.

"There's something about this that's so petty and so vindictive, and it feeds into this narrative that he's a bully. ... He's going to have to find some way to defuse this to prove he doesn't run a shop like that," said Gergen, a former adviser to several U.S. presidents.

As criticisms of Christie's management style of being heavy handed and petty come to the forefront, Christie said, "I am not a bully." But he added that he is "soul searching" about why he created an environment in which his staff felt they had to lie to him.

The whole article is worth reading to appreciate just how thin-skinned the governor really is. The piece points to example after example of Christie using the power of his office to punish rivals ? even other Republicans ? who?ve offended him in minor and inconsequential ways.
The governor obviously doesn?t want to be blamed for the Fort Lee fiasco, but looking back over the last four years, the available evidence paints a deeply unflattering portrait of an intemperate bully, willing to use the power of his administration to intimidate, punish, and harass.

Looking ahead, several state officials have raised the prospect of a criminal investigation, and as state Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D) said on the show last night, there?s an expectation that the matter would be directed to a federal prosecutor because New Jersey prosecutors are appointed by the governor.

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...too bad, call the Wahm bulance. This won't be the end of Christie but it makes him and his cronies look petty and childish.

What's significant - this scandal will mark the end of Christie's presidential aspirations.

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"Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee." Wow.

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If you are a rich then vote Romney and if you are a social conservative who is against gay marriage, don't believe in global warming/climate change, have your panties in a bunch over God and your guns -- thinking both being taken away -- and don't like people of color and long for the old days when blacks and Mexicans knew their places, vote Republican.

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You not believing the head of the NAACP means you won't believe anything that disproves your 'theories', not matter the truth in question.

Which part of what the head of the NAACP do I not believe, are you saying? Will you point me to the specific statement that he had made?

I looked at the link you had posted, but I didn't find much, except that African Americans finance hasn't improved under Obama, which I had already agreed many times.

'African Americans voted overwhelmingly for Obama because they know their lives are better under his presidency and would be worse under Romny's.' said atsushi

No, you didn't say just their finance, you said their lives are better under Obama-and made a supposition about how they'd be under Romney.

So black unemployment continues to be basically double that of whites, as it has been for a long time. Obama's policies have kept the status quo. Had Romney kept the status quo it would be the same as under Obama. No change in that case, no improvement for blacks who believed in hope and change instead of 'same old, same old'.

Of course, as a job creator, Romney knows how business works, unlike Obama, who never had a private sector job (except maybe dealing choom in high school to other stoners).

You not believing the head of the NAACP means you won't believe anything that disproves your 'theories', not matter the truth in question.

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I didn't expect atsushi to believe me, but I figured he'd accept the information from the President of the NAACP-but since the President of the NAACP agrees with me he's not credible to atsushi. Yup, the head of one of the largest and most honored group supporting African Americans disproves atsushi's theory. Oh well. I'll bet the head of the NAACP doesn't have Fox News or Sean Hannity on speedial, lol.

I thought that I had already agreed that the lives African Americans have not improved under Obama?

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And I'll add something else-many of my friends who are Obama supporters point to the stock market of how he's managed the economy. Gee, the rich have gotten richer under Obama!-how has that helped the poor and the lower middle class?

Yes, and if Romney became the President, the rich got even more richer.

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If atsushi is concerned about the poor affording ID (which many Republican groups have offered to help, and all the Democratic groups trying to enroll minorities to vote should do the same)

Really? That's new to me. Which Republican groups?

If this is true, it does tell me that not every Republican is a racist (But I kind of knew that already). To be clear, I had never said that every Republican is a racist. I said, "GOP is a racist party" or "GOP policies are racist."

But whether or not this is true, to me, things like this is more credible (I know; it's Huffington Post...has to be taken with a grain of salt).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12 ... oter-fraud_n_4455110.html

From the article:

"In August, former U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell criticized the argument of North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory (R) that his approval of a more restrictive voting bill would combat voter fraud.

?You can say what you like, but there is no voter fraud,? Powell said at the CEO Forum in Raleigh, N.C. ?How can it be widespread and undetected??

Colin Powell should have followed up the news as reported a few months later, when thousands of suspicious voters registered and voted in the previous election.

http://www.chathamjournal.com/weekly/ ... months-later-131024.shtml

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I didn't expect atsushi to believe me, but I figured he'd accept the information from the President of the NAACP-but since the President of the NAACP agrees with me he's not credible to atsushi. Yup, the head of one of the largest and most honored group supporting African Americans disproves atsushi's theory. Oh well. I'll bet the head of the NAACP doesn't have Fox News or Sean Hannity on speedial, lol.

And I'll add something else-many of my friends who are Obama supporters point to the stock market of how he's managed the economy. Gee, the rich have gotten richer under Obama!-how has that helped the poor and the lower middle class?

If atsushi is concerned about the poor affording ID (which many Republican groups have offered to help, and all the Democratic groups trying to enroll minorities to vote should do the same)

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Black wealth was eviscerated by the housing crisis as that is where most blacks accrued wealth, which vanished due to subprime predatory lending. That cannot be blamed on Obama. Agree with Atsushi, I don't think we can say that blacks would have been better off under Romney.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2012/0112wicks-lim.html

And yeah, why would a black person vote for him when his religion espoused views like this? http://www.alternet.org/belief/mormon ... sign-gods-curse-no-longer

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Are you kidding? By what standard have African American's lives improved under Obama?

Care to share some facts to support your theory? (Like poverty levels, unemployment, food stamp participation).

And let me debunk your argument in advance

it's not Bush's fault, and there is no evidence that 'it would have been worse under a Republican'.

My theory is that black people are smart enough to determine which candidate would be better for them.

I didn't say that African Americans situation improved under Obama. Decades of systematic racial discrimination and downfall can't be just wiped out over night just because we have a black President for 5 years.

To argue that African Americans made a bad choice is one thing. But to say they are too stupid to make a decision for themselves is racist.

Perhaps you can enlighten me how African Americans would have been better off under Romny.

But how could possibly African Americans have come to such conclusion that Romny would be a better choice for them a year ago?

Remember 47% comment? He clearly said that it's not his job to worry about these people. A good portion of 47% is African Americans, yes?

First, it's insulting or ignorant to misspell Romney. I avoid calling our President, say, Nobama.

Second, circle back to your statement that blacks are better off under Obama, and would be worse under Romney.

I'll wait for proof of your statements before proceeding, of course.

Of course, you may want to check with the head of the NAACP for his, er, somewhat more involved interest in the subject.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2 ... people-worse-under-obama/

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Atshushi, asking voters to provide the same information they need to open a bank account, board an airplane, or get a drivers license is hardly onerous, except to those who want to support voting fraud.

Please read up on Jersey City mayor Frank Hague when you get a chance . . . lol.

And btw, just how easy is it to become a citizen in Japan if you're a foreigner and how easy is it to vote there? I'd love to know.

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Are you kidding? By what standard have African American's lives improved under Obama?

Care to share some facts to support your theory? (Like poverty levels, unemployment, food stamp participation).

And let me debunk your argument in advance

it's not Bush's fault, and there is no evidence that 'it would have been worse under a Republican'.

All well and good, but if 99% of white voters voted for a white candidate running against a black candidate you'd be the first to cry 'RACIST!'.

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As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

This, here is why you're a hateful idiot. You literally just contradicted yourself (emphasis on DICT).

I am happy and proud to be called that by a racist like yourself. Thank you!

Boy, do I wish we had this debate in person.

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As someone who truly believes GOP is a racist party (though I don't think Christie himself is a racist)

This, here is why you're a hateful idiot. You literally just contradicted yourself (emphasis on DICT).

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If there's nothing to this, why did Christie's PA appointees resign?

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... _closure_controversy.html

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At the same time, it shouldn't be dominated by one party. So we need a great counter balance. The current GOP is NOT a good counter balance. They are just too anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science. GOP is a relic of the past.

This whole white washing (no pun intended) of the GOP needs to stop. It makes you and people like you sound woefully ignorant.

You take the stances of the most visible and stupid (Palin and her ilk) and apply it to the whole party.

Trust me, the Dems have quite their share of racist (Sharpton, etc.), pro-life/"anti women" (Jim Oberstar, Joe Donnelly, Steve Driehaus), anti-minority (Obama - don't really see many/any high ranking minorities in this cabinet do you? Robert Byrd), anti-science (Robert F Kennedy, California Dems who supported Prop 37), so don't play this stupid game.

NO, I will not stop. At every opportunity I get, I will continue to speak how racist GOP is. You do what you have to do to promote your agenda. It's your prerogative.

GOP is a racist party.

Atsushi, please provide us with some examples of the GOP's racism. I think you would be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your argument with some facts. It just sounds like you're ranting.

http://republicansareracists.com/

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/

Don't take my words for it.

Those are both links from very biased sites. Do you have anything from an unbiased site that doesn't just support your misgivings about the GOP? I'm not supportive of either party, but you sound worse than the nut job right wingers on Fox News. Your language is full of hate, and it doesn't help your party's image. Since we're throwing links around, here's one to check out:

http://hnn.us/article/3554

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GOP is a racist party.

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Christie vs. Clinton. Either way, you have a democrat in office.

My prediction exactly.

It would take another decade for GOP to get their sh** together.

But in a decade or two, I don't think GOP will be a national party.

It would be great if Tea Party splits off from GOP.

Who is looking forward to GOP primary debates? It's going to be quite a circus.

The Republicans and Democrats are the same party at this point. They work together to screw you, the common man, financially. People need to figure this out and start to consider voting for third party candidates who don't subscribe to one party's ideology vs. another. Fiscally conservative, and socially liberal would be a good middle ground for me. Democrats and Republicans seem to know one thing these days, and that's how to spend all your inflated tax dollars into debt.

We need another 21st century party that embraces the social things that DEM does and at the same time, being fiscally conservative.

Being fiscally conservative goes against what the Democratic party represents, which is why I can never vote Democrat and choose third party candidates.

Yes, and I understand that. Voting for third party candidates is a lot better than voting for GOP.

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At the same time, it shouldn't be dominated by one party. So we need a great counter balance. The current GOP is NOT a good counter balance. They are just too anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science. GOP is a relic of the past.

This whole white washing (no pun intended) of the GOP needs to stop. It makes you and people like you sound woefully ignorant.

You take the stances of the most visible and stupid (Palin and her ilk) and apply it to the whole party.

Trust me, the Dems have quite their share of racist (Sharpton, etc.), pro-life/"anti women" (Jim Oberstar, Joe Donnelly, Steve Driehaus), anti-minority (Obama - don't really see many/any high ranking minorities in this cabinet do you? Robert Byrd), anti-science (Robert F Kennedy, California Dems who supported Prop 37), so don't play this stupid game.

NO, I will not stop. At every opportunity I get, I will continue to speak how racist GOP is. You do what you have to do to promote your agenda. It's your prerogative.

GOP is a racist party.

Atsushi, please provide us with some examples of the GOP's racism. I think you would be taken more seriously if you actually backed up your argument with some facts. It just sounds like you're ranting.

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At the same time, it shouldn't be dominated by one party. So we need a great counter balance. The current GOP is NOT a good counter balance. They are just too anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-women, anti-science. GOP is a relic of the past.

This whole white washing (no pun intended) of the GOP needs to stop. It makes you and people like you sound woefully ignorant.

You take the stances of the most visible and stupid (Palin and her ilk) and apply it to the whole party.

Trust me, the Dems have quite their share of racist (Sharpton, etc.), pro-life/"anti women" (Jim Oberstar, Joe Donnelly, Steve Driehaus), anti-minority (Obama - don't really see many/any high ranking minorities in this cabinet do you? Robert Byrd), anti-science (Robert F Kennedy, California Dems who supported Prop 37), so don't play this stupid game.