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Re: Governor Christie landslide
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You can't pin the Obama economy on Christie. The Democrats in the Legislature putting a constitutional amendment raising the minimum wage will also hurt the NJ economy, don't blame that on Christie either. What does healthcare contribution by teachers have anything to do with tenure reform? They are two separate steps forward.

I'm not sure what no-bid contracts you're talking about, but the no bid contract for hundreds of millions of dollars to a radical college friend of the First Lady-now, that's one to get riled up about-but I'll bet you aren't, are you-especially given that it's been an abject failure.

You're right about the special election. He should have just appointed Chiesa to finish the entire term of Lautenberg. You'd have been ok with that, right?

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high unemployment, economic downswing, little job creation.
Teachers paying 1.5% towards health care is not tenure reform, awarding no bid ontracts to cronies is not reaching accross the aisle. Wasting 25 million on a special election in October is not sound economic policy.







Posted on: 2013/11/9 17:03
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The sad thing is compared to the tea baggers he may be a moderate. Like Reagan, Christie has a way of connecting to people despite his lack of accomplishments.


I guess getting pension reform, healthcare contribution reform, tenure reform, municipal tax caps, yadda yadda somehow missed your accomplishment list. (All done with a Democratic controlled Legislature, natch).

It's no surprise that the two most corrupt counties in NJ were the only ones to vote for Buono to win!

Posted on: 2013/11/9 4:23
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Had it not been for Sandy Christie would have had a hard time being reelected. Much like Giuliani and Dubya he got a big bounce from being the visible "strong" man during a crisis.

This idea of Christie as a moderate with bi-partisan support is laughable. He is anti marriage equality, is hostile to a woman's right to choose. opposed an increase to the minimum wage, cut funding for women's health centers and kissed up to the NRA over gun legislation. His claims of "real" reforms is a joke. Property taxes continue to rise across the state. He would prefer to squeeze state and municipal employees rather than increase taxes on the wealthy.

Christie was Karl Rove's choice for US Attorney. That speaks volumes. His "landslide" was a walk-over against a weak candidate while many craven Democrats sat on the sidelines. The man is an arrogant bully who at the end of the day will lay down with the Tea Party.


Nonsense. I guess even a moderate Republican with a history of working with those across the aisle with notable success is so threatening to the looney left that they bury their collective heads in the sand and ignore the facts, lol.


Posted on: 2013/11/9 4:09
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Pebble, you're using all the tools from the radical left playbook-lame attempts to humiliate and insult those who threaten your far left views. You can oppose gay marriage and not hate homosexuals-the vast majority of religions on planet Earth do just that.


Which proves what exactly? That "love", or is it "non-hate", can be so parsed and twisted around to include disparaging and marginalizing someone else's most cherished goal? I recall you right-wingers raked (then) President Bill Clinton over the coals for his loose definition of "sex".

There is nothing lame in calling out hypocrisy - if you are not going to treat someone with the respect you yourself insist on, you may not think you hate them, but your actions tell a different story.


Obviously the state's admiration of Christie seems to show that his opposition to gay marriage isn't a political or moral issue for him, only to a very vocal minority who throw hate words easily themselves. Again, the intolerance from those who demand tolerance is both sad and amusing at the same time.

Posted on: 2013/11/8 22:53
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And already the decline begins. His own party legislators gives him a bloody nose, re-electing Tom Kean, Jr. as Senate republican leader over his opposition.


A bloody nose? Seriously? That's all you got?

Posted on: 2013/11/8 21:58
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More multi-cultural accolades for Christie from the Muslim world this time.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governme ... Back-Against-Islamophobia

Posted on: 2013/11/8 13:47
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Pebble, you're using all the tools from the radical left playbook-lame attempts to humiliate and insult those who threaten your far left views. You can oppose gay marriage and not hate homosexuals-the vast majority of religions on planet Earth do just that.

And nothing proves this more than the way the citizens of NJ joined to re-elect Governor Christie-women, Democrats, African Americans, Latinos-they for sure didn't mind Christie's stance on gay marriage and knew he'd be better for all NJ voters, rich or poor, than the 'same old, same old' Democrat politics which have put us in such a deep hole.

Posted on: 2013/11/8 13:14
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Re: Jersey City tightening control of off-duty work for cops
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Off duty details have nothing to do we pension calculations, the pension is based on the base salary .


I would imagine that pension calculations include 'on duty' overtime that so many public employees pad in their final years to raise their pension. My question was whether these 'side jobs' like monitoring a worksite that is paid by, say, a utility is counted towards pension calculation.


Posted on: 2013/11/7 12:53
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Do the 'off duty, but in uniform' job revenues count towards pension calculation?

Posted on: 2013/11/7 0:35
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Pebble, look at the link (from the NJ State website), you can search by city or township to show per student expenditure, how much is divided between local taxpayers, state taxpayers, and Federal assistance.

Merging education expenditure, while ignoring WHO is providing the $, is at best disingenuous and at worst a lame attempt at disinformation.

And your claim I 'hate' unions is unfounded. I'm not in favor of public sector unions (mostly because they've bought the lawmakers who determine their salaries and benefits), but I've been a member of a private sector union and proud of it.

In any case, we can look forward to another 4 years of progressive reform of the education system by Governor Christie and his team, who received a mandate from NJ voters to do just that. Could there be another reason why only the two most corrupt counties in NJ voted for his opponent except for a desire to keep the status quo?


Posted on: 2013/11/6 20:08
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I spend more than 50% of my time in JC, but I'm a legal resident of Essex County, in a city who pays over 85% of the cost of educating our own children and has the highest taxes in NJ because of our tax money being diverted to cities like JC. So I feel helping to pay to educate JC children I'm entitled to post here since it's partly on my dime.


If seeing your taxes going to the education of children is such a burden, you can always move to an over-55 community in South Jersey, or better yet, somewhere out of state.


The bigger issue is that we're failing to educate the kids, irrespective of how education is funded.


Nonsense. Schools such as JC spend considerably more money per student than the highest performing schools (all of which fund their own districts rather than have their hand out to the state). When you have single family parents, absentee parents, parents with substance abuse issues, uninvolved parents, teenaged parents of children, multi-generation welfare parents, no amount of $ can overcome the obstacles that the parents of the students placed in front of their children. More money isn't the answer. Socially responsible parents are the answer. Union City is a great example of how involved parents can produce well educated and socially responsible children.


Posted on: 2013/11/6 19:14
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He got the 60% to call it a landslide.

?Nobody ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste of the American public.?
? P.T. Barnum


As for "pay their fair share"... I'm pretty sure we do. Unless you don't actually live in JC which would make it odd for you to be posting on a forum for JC residents...


I spend more than 50% of my time in JC, but I'm a legal resident of Essex County, in a city who pays over 85% of the cost of educating our own children and has the highest taxes in NJ because of our tax money being diverted to cities like JC. So I feel helping to pay to educate JC children I'm entitled to post here since it's partly on my dime.

Posted on: 2013/11/6 13:01
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Only in Essex and Hudson counties did Buono win-shocking! I guess the taxpayers in those counties want to make sure they continue to not pay their fair share in taxes. (NJ taxpayers pick up 86% of the school cost in East Orange, budget 250 million, 83% of the school cost in Irvington, budget 170 million, 81% of the school cost in Newark, budget 962 million, and 76% of the school cost in JC, budget 643 million).

http://www.state.nj.us/cgi-bin/educat ... dist_code2390&maxhits=650

Posted on: 2013/11/6 12:21
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Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
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When NJ loses jobs because of the ridiculous constitutional amendment raising the minimum wage-don't blame it on the Governor, he wanted a three year implementation with no lasso to inflation.


Posted on: 2013/11/6 2:56
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Hahaha suggit you Booker voters! Revenge sucks.

I'm confused. What does Booker, who wasn't on the ballot, have to do with this election? Also, who should be sucking what? Is this NJ sucking further down the economic drain?



Exit polls show voters in NJ rightly don't blame Christie for the Obama economy. Exit polls show huge gains by Christie among women (more than half voted for him), African Americans, Latino Americans-plus 30% of Democrats pulled the lever for him.

For all those who may have claimed Obama had a mandate after his second election (even though less people voted for him AND his margin of victory shrank)-I guess you have to say Christie has a much stronger mandate after this election.

Posted on: 2013/11/6 2:19
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Christie called winner one minute after polls close. Can you say landslide?

Posted on: 2013/11/6 1:25
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Re: Gov Christie to Teacher: "I Am Tired Of You People!"
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Before Monroe responds with, "Special Election was to make sure NJ voters were represented and it wasn't just Christie's pick!"

Special Election October 16, 2013
Date Election would have been held on: November 5, 2013

14 days weekdays

Let's just use the conservative estimate that special election cost 12 million. I don't think approx 850k a day was worth it......


I hate to say it, but a couple of million of dollars is chump change in a state budget-especially a state who subsidizes Jersey City taxpayers by paying almost 75% of its almost 650 million dollar school budget-year after year after year.

So that's your excuse? The state gives children an education so it's ok to just outright waste millions in order for the cowardly governor to not have Booker on the same ballot.

Wow. Just keep root, root rooting for your team! No matter what, you'll excuse it away...


Excuse? Nope, just supporting our Governor who is overwhelmingly admired by NJ voters and will get voted in again with the help of Democrats from all over NJ.

Posted on: 2013/11/5 23:07
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Before Monroe responds with, "Special Election was to make sure NJ voters were represented and it wasn't just Christie's pick!"

Special Election October 16, 2013
Date Election would have been held on: November 5, 2013

14 days weekdays

Let's just use the conservative estimate that special election cost 12 million. I don't think approx 850k a day was worth it......


I hate to say it, but a couple of million of dollars is chump change in a state budget-especially a state who subsidizes Jersey City taxpayers by paying almost 75% of its almost 650 million dollar school budget-year after year after year.

Posted on: 2013/11/5 22:26
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It's not about tolerance, It's about being Professional and having common courtesy, especially since He (Christie) is representing the State and the Taxpayers, You may like the way he carries himself , and You may think people should be thrilled with having their property taxes go up, but I for one do not. I wouldn't speak to anyone the way He speaks to his constituents and as a leader of this State I would expect Him to carry himself as an educated respectful leader not a bully., but again that 's just me,I would also have expected when He promised property tax relief I would have gotten just that. Shame on me for not understanding that He is not a man of his word just another Politician who only looks out for #1.


Nonsense. With a Democratic controlled Legislature there is only so much Christie can do re:taxes, with the exception of slowing the rate of increase-which he's done superbly. And done it in a bi-partisan manner. Ask why Sweeney and his Legislature refuse to pursue reforms in the area of sick and vacation payouts to retiring public sector employees-how much is that costing JC this year? And that's somehow Christie's fault? Er, no, it's the residue of decades of Democrats giving away the Statehouse to the special interests.


Posted on: 2013/11/5 15:59
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Governor Tubby? The intolerance of those who demand tolerance amuses and saddens me.


Posted on: 2013/11/5 15:36
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While it is true that Christie allowed an election to fill Senator Lautenberg's seat, when he could've simply filled the seat with a Republican. Why did he see fit to hold a special election a couple of weeks prior to the regular election , costing the taxpayers millions of dollars, when he simply could've left the seat open until the regular election? Doesn't sound like good business acumen to me. What it was is Politics at it's best.Christie didn't want to run the risk of having Cory Booker running during his re-election bid and thereby risking people simply voting along party lines. Let's call it what it is and not sing Christies praises as if he was being altruistic ,to believe otherwise is simply naive . He did it that way to benefit himself, not the taxpayers who now have to pay millions of dollars in election costs twice!! By the way I am a property owner and with all these so called great economic relief plans that Christie has implemented ,my property taxes have gone up steadily every year since 2008 ,I am not holding my breath waiting for his promised property tax relief.


He did the right thing, in both allowing voters 1) to choose the replacement Senator without having Christie do it for them and 2) doing it as quickly as possible. Some would accuse him of 'disenfranchising' NJ voters by waiting longer to hold the election. Let's see if the NJ Legislature will try to change the rules for special elections.

Of course, Christie knew from the moment Buono was the Dem choice he'd win easily, so he really didn't have anything to gain by separating the two elections.

As far as taxes, if you're a JC resident you should be thrilled with your low taxes. Imagine how high they'd be if you had to pay even half the 650 million dollar school tab, instead of other NJ taxpayers picking up your bill. As far at property tax increases, Christie has done a great job of slowing the rate of increase. Too bad Christie hasn't been able to get, say, the sick pay/vacation pay reform done because of the recalcitrant Democrats in the Legislature. Just how much is JC paying out this year?? That's Christie's fault? Nope.

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Here's a good, local example of the benefits of Christie getting tenure reform passed. One teacher worked THIRTY SEVEN FREAKING YEARS and kept his/her tenure despite missing 10% of working days! Thankfully the NJEA got on board with these reforms after Christie lit the fire under them. From the Star Ledger-

Under the law, which allows an arbitrator instead of a judge to make essentially the final decision on whether a tenured teacher can be fired, four Jersey City teachers have been fired based on arbitrators? rulings.

Three of the four were terminated because of excessive absenteeism, with one School 23 teacher missing 338 days from 2002 to 2011, according to the arbitrator?s ruling. A School 20 teacher missed 600 days, about 10 percent of working school days during her 37 years with the district.

Posted on: 2013/11/5 13:58
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Teachers are fired 'all the time' with tenure? I'll let you produce a link to support your claim. I'm not bothering to look it up, but I recall something like less than 10 teachers per year losing tenure-and that was usually due to a criminal issue, not from being a horrible teacher. But I'd love to see you support your statement. As far as the election, Christie could have appointed a replacement for the rest of Lautenberg's term, but he chose not to do so. In the sense of bi-partisanship, he moved to let the people decide as fast as possible. Imagine the bleating if he'd put a Republican in till the next scheduled election! And progress? Bi-partisan reforms in pension, tenure, healthcare-when did a NJ Governor accomplish anything remotely like this? In any case, today Democrats will join with Republicans to re-elect a Red Governor in an overwhelmingly Blue state. Which will make the looney left type Dems feeling mighty blue indeed!

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Its a requirement for all emergency services and military personnel to pass a psychological test prior to employment. Wouldn't it be in the interest of society that all elected and public officials be also tested ?

Out-bursts like Christie has displayed, might indicate he is a sociopath and might have a mental health problem that could be detrimental to him and us being a leader - Too often our politicians come undone and end up convicted of a crime or are so inept, it has a major impact on the community ... we have a history of them in JC and NJ!

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html


Geez. You should be more concerned about a 'leader' who looks the USA in the eye and lies dozens of times about keeping your doctor and your health plan. Now that's a sociopath combined with an ideologue, perhaps the worst combo ever.

Anyway, enjoy the election results tonight!

Posted on: 2013/11/5 11:46
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Peppers and eggs are the north NJ Italian breakfast sandwiches I grew up with. (The first Soprano's soundtrack CD was called 'Peppers and Eggs').

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aside from treating the President in a civil manner....what has Christie done / accomplished?


I guessed you missed his bi-partisan successes on pension reform, tenure reform, reining in the independent 'authorities' like the Passaic Valley Sewerage Authority and the Delaware River Port Authority, making low level drug users get treatment rather than jail, encouraging township mergers such as the Princeton's, municipal tax caps, his great handling of Sandy problems, balancing the state budget without raising taxes (and after being left with a multi-billion dollar hole that he didn't know about until after he took office). And all this, done in a blue state with a blue Legislature. Imagine what he'd have gotten done with a Republican controlled Legislature!

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Just imagine the taxes JC residents would be paying if they paid their fair share of school costs, rather than having other NJ taxpayers picking up most of it. (NJ pays for over 75% of the almost 650 million dollar cost of JC schools), local JC taxes cover less than 17%. My hometown pays 86% of the school costs with property taxes.

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If only we had a real leader in the White House who was willing to reach across the aisle and compromise the USA would be in a much better place right now. 2016 can't come soon enough.


Now that's a load of crap. The GOP has had only one goal: derail Obama.



Nope they oppose his stupid policies. Now that his SIGNATURE legislation has exposed him for what he is his legacy and Presidency is trashed, for cause. Wait till all those kids who voted him in see what redistribution of wealth means to their take home pay.

The most transparent administration in US history? lol.
Obamacare hearings on CSpan? er, no.
Bi-partisan? Obamacare pushed through without a single Republican vote in the Senate through a procedural trick.
Not allowing Congress to interview a single Benghazi survivor?

But this isn't about Obama, it's about Christie. Who does work in a bi-partisan manner, has dozens of elected Democrat officials endorsing him, and will easily win over a sacrificial Democrat lamb in a few days.

Who, by the way, earns more with her husband than Christie and his wife did last year! She's a 1%er!

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fat ass biker is hilarious-Christie is headed to, perhaps, an epic win and you think he was a bullied kid and/or is sensitive to 'fat jokes'? To a guy who brought a donut to eat on Letterman, lol?

Nope, he's had an incredible couple of years as a Republican in an overwhelmingly blue state-with a record of slowing the rate of tax increases, bi-partisan successes on pension reform, healthcare reform, property tax caps, township mergers (which we desperately need), going after independent authorities like the Passaic Valley Sewerage thieves (he fired the whole board I think), handling the multi billion dollar deficit left by Corslime, yadda yadda. I'm hoping he'll go after the Port Authority next, which is one area he's been soft on.

If only we had a real leader in the White House who was willing to reach across the aisle and compromise the USA would be in a much better place right now. 2016 can't come soon enough.

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"Tired of you people"
Would this suggest Christie is tired of all educators ? Maybe the root problem to our education system and standards IS Christie !


No he's tired of people being unaccountable for their job performance, unlike in the private sector. While his tenure reforms were a huge step forward (given that it would have been unthinkable under a Democrat) he did have to compromise (something also unthinkable to a Democrat) to get that accomplished in a bi-partisan manner.

Which is why he scares the liberal loonies so much-his reforms make bi-partisan sense.

Posted on: 2013/11/3 21:08
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