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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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How media covered Christie. This is the biggest news today.

http://observer.com/2014/01/chris-christie-coverage/


You do know the Observer is owned by the Kushner family, whose head served jail time for illegal campaign contributions to Democrats, right? And have strong McGreevey ties? You don't think they'd love to support Fulop by doing this-nah.

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Posted on: 2014/1/9 21:12
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Re: Christie: Have I ever been angry with Steve Fulop? 'You bet I have' but ...
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A Jersey City mayor complaining about Hudson County-like politics is pretty amusing, no?


Posted on: 2014/1/9 21:06
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.


So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 20:59
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Good manners mean more to me than correct spelling, generally, especially with smartphones and tiny keyboards in the mix.


Seriously, are you suggesting that calling people who don't agree with you politically the Loony Left to be within the realm of good manners?


I use 'looney' because it's more fun to read that way. And not everyone I disagree with is looney, only some.

But I generally mirror the tone first given by others, and respond in kind. Which I think is fair and balanced.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 20:36
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Pebble has his/her dunce cap on again.

He/she wants me to prove that the fix is in (right, a Democrat and Obama financial contributor and supporter being put in charge of the IRS investigation), talk about a fox being put in charge of the hen house,

and then he/she says

the Kelly woman already has a job. Did I miss that somewhere? Care to offer up anything to support that??

Baroni and Wildstein forced to resign is the same as being fired, like Martin Bashir and Baldwin 'resigning'.

And Stepien was given the heave ho, did you miss that?

Posted on: 2014/1/9 20:30
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Fulop was asked for an endorsement, and refused. Did I miss the Marin Blvd access lanes to the Holland Tunnel being diverted to the main access??

Posted on: 2014/1/9 20:25
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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The linked article begins with an epic fail-the mayor of Ft. Lee has said he wasn't asked to endorse Christie, so how could he be 'punished' for not doing something he wasn't asked to do?

Bwwwaaaahaaaaaa!

Posted on: 2014/1/9 20:21
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Let's be real, folks. Those gleeful over this weren't going to vote for Christie for POTUS before conegate anyway, right?

Independents, becoming a larger group year by year, have been enthusiastic for Christie overall and are likely not going to be deterred by a molehill mountain over a couple of traffic jams-of which he had no knowledge anyway.

Conservative Republicans would feel much more strongly about Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi than any Christie issues.

So, far out from people declaring for POTUS, conegate is unimportant.

(Of course, and this is a big of course, barring any emails/phone messages/texts connecting Christie to conegate). Given his very genuine press conference today I doubt it highly. I'd say there isn't a semen stained dress situation hanging in someone's closet with DNA evidence. Or a pizza grease stain on a memo! :)

Posted on: 2014/1/9 20:06
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Christie didn't know anything, yet he was actively trying to cover up the investigation a month ago.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/S ... 4477704579254012674389146


The article is about a month old, and Cuomo has fully backed Christie at every opportunity over conegate, nothing new here.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:50
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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The more relevant point is that this move DID delay ambulances. Whether or not this woman could have been saved is not the point. Messing with traffic is damn dangerous.

And I ask again, what if this woman had been your mother? Would you so casually shrug Bridgegate off?





My mother died at 67, if she made 91 I'd have been thrilled. I'd love to see a stat on how many 91 year old women survive heart attacks under any circumstances, let alone a few minute delay in response from an ambulance.


Still missing the point. Purposely, I assume.


Fail. First, you'd have to prove that the 91 year old woman, already in cardiac arrest (and maybe already dead but undeclared) lost her life over a few minutes delay. If that is so, then I said throw the book at the people involved.

No connection has been made to Christie over this, so his exposure is zero-unless you're one of the 'it's his culture as exec that encouraged this' in which case we're back to Obama and IRSGate, which you'd then be calling for his head as well. Along with Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi.

But you won't, of course, because that's intellectually honest and non partisan.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:45
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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People keep mentioning Benghazi. It's already been proven that the attack was spontaneous and then co-opted by local warlords. Kind of like looting a store. Stevens didn't want a massive security detail. He was well liked by Libyans and had just helped them win their liberation. He knew things weren't great there but no one knew of any specific threats. The anti-Islamic film sparked the outrage and warlords co-opted the outrage to make a political statement. Only thing I disagree with is that Obama has allowed the prime suspect to remain free. In any case, this Christie thing will probably blow over by next year. He just better hope he kept a reasonable distance from the actual machinations. Kind of like what Healy did in the pay for play scandal. No doubt Christie knew something but for his sake he better hope that only his subordinates take the fall.


Nonsense, unless you're drinking Kool Aid through a straw made from the page of a discredited NY Times article. And the article has been discredited by Democrats as well, it's a bi-partisan rejection of the Hilary puff piece.



http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-yor ... -benghazi/article/2541379

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:41
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Re: Resident of Jersey City luxury high-rise faces weapons charge, authorities say
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A Jersey City man armed with a loaded handgun was arrested last night in the parking deck of the Downtown luxury high-rise building where he lives, officials confirmed this morning.

The man drew attention from police in Glen Rock and Ridgewood in Bergen County and Jefferson in Morris County after reports that he had threatened a relative.

The man was charged with unlawful possession of a weapon when he was located by Jersey City police in his high-end vehicle in the the parking deck of 77 Hudson St.

Details on the man's arrest were not immediately available.

Is this the rich peoples building? Hmmmm
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ge_authorities_say_1.html


I had an alert, he was driving a silver Porsche Cayenne, not a Range Rover.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:25
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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The more relevant point is that this move DID delay ambulances. Whether or not this woman could have been saved is not the point. Messing with traffic is damn dangerous.

And I ask again, what if this woman had been your mother? Would you so casually shrug Bridgegate off?





My mother died at 67, if she made 91 I'd have been thrilled. I'd love to see a stat on how many 91 year old women survive heart attacks under any circumstances, let alone a few minute delay in response from an ambulance.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:14
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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I saw the press conference, and it was a convincing performance. But there is this:

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It's true that there is nothing (yet) to prove that Christie knew about this. However, common sense tell us that his aides and political advisors would not be acting so recklessly without his approval or a strong basis to believe he approved based on prior behavior.


If you think this is likely, I'm sure you feel the same way about Obama and IRS gate? (The one difference is the IRS gate may have won Obama's 2nd stint in office).

Which action by reckless aides and advisors had more importance? And now we have an Obama financial and political supporter placed in charge of the IRS investigation? Would you be comfortable if NJ appointed a financial and political supporter of Christie to investigate cone gate?

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:12
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Haters gonna hate, lol.

But the real issue, vis a vis 2016, is what will be the bigger scandal

Bridgegate in NJ, in which there were a couple additional traffic jams added to the thousands daily in NJ

or

Benghazigate, in which four Americans were killed, dozens injured, no one held accountable for not increasing security in a North Africa Arab country on the anniversary of 9/11 after repeated requests to Mrs. Clinton's office, and where we still have no knowledge of what Mrs. Clinton did during the attack-no email trail, no phone records, zero accountability, and no one fired for their poor decisions.

And Mrs. Clinton hasn't given an hour long press conference taking question after question about her role, as Secretary of State in charge, about her leadership and accountability.

Maybe Christie should have said 'what's the difference'?

And did you notice how Christie calmly responded to certain questions that were trying to get him to lose his cool? Didn't work.


http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationn ... sey-bridge-death-20140108,0,2864014.story

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In September, according to a report from the Bergen Record, paramedics trying to reach an unconscious 91-year-old woman in Fort Lee, N.J., got stuck in a traffic jam that had apparently been created by Christie's associates as political punishment for the borough's mayor, a Democrat. Multiple lanes were forced to merge into one, gridlocking traffic for days.

The woman later died at a hospital of cardiac arrest, according to a Sept. 10 letter that EMS coordinator Paul Favia sent to the borough's mayor.

"Paramedics were delayed due to heavy traffic on Fort Lee Road and had to meet the ambulance en-route to the hospital instead of on the scene," Favia wrote, the Record reported.

Although Favia did not explicitly blame the woman's death on the traffic delay -- the paramedics got to her in seven minutes -- it was one of four such delays reported by the coordinator, the newspaper reported.


I'm sad for that poor woman-but she was 91 years old, already in cardiac arrest, and the delays that may or may not have been caused by traffic amounted to a couple of minutes. Did the traffic jam kill her? A 91 year old woman already in cardiac arrest? They don't have doctor's on board ambulances, she may well have already been dead just not declared dead.

And if these knuckleheads are in any way criminally liable for this, let the heads roll-Christie has already done his part by firing them.

(I won't make the comparison of Mrs. Clinton and four murdered Americans again, I shouldn't need to) except to say not only has no one been fired, but that no inquiry has begun. In fact, Mrs. Clinton's State Department, both when she was the Secretary and now, has refused to allow on site victims to testify to Congress about the terrorist (not video inspired) attack.

Now, conspiracy folks, that's a coverup!

Posted on: 2014/1/9 19:00
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Haters gonna hate, lol.

But the real issue, vis a vis 2016, is what will be the bigger scandal

Bridgegate in NJ, in which there were a couple additional traffic jams added to the thousands daily in NJ

or

Benghazigate, in which four Americans were killed, dozens injured, no one held accountable for not increasing security in a North Africa Arab country on the anniversary of 9/11 after repeated requests to Mrs. Clinton's office, and where we still have no knowledge of what Mrs. Clinton did during the attack-no email trail, no phone records, zero accountability, and no one fired for their poor decisions.

And Mrs. Clinton hasn't given an hour long press conference taking question after question about her role, as Secretary of State in charge, about her leadership and accountability.

Maybe Christie should have said 'what's the difference'?

And did you notice how Christie calmly responded to certain questions that were trying to get him to lose his cool? Didn't work.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 18:32
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Good manners mean more to me than correct spelling, generally, especially with smartphones and tiny keyboards in the mix.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 18:09
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Of course, we just find out that the person in charge of investigating the IRS/Obama scandal is an Obama political donor, appointed by Eric Holder and the DOJ! The fix is in . . .

Back to Christie-he fires anyone involved with cone gate, yet the haters are still hating.

After calling them 'abject idiots' (obviously not handling his own staffers with kid gloves, he's an equal opportunity plain talker), do you think he's worried about a smoking gun email somehow connecting him?

Nope, and that's why it's already becoming a non story.

Posted on: 2014/1/9 18:05
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Hahaha, haters. Still waiting to see proof Christie was responsible for any of this.

At least he manned up, faced the press right away, apologized, etc. Wish the same could be said for others *cough cough Hillary* *cough cough Barry*


The people who would never vote for Christie anyway still won't vote for him. The ever increasing base of people who classify themselves as independents just found more reasons to vote for him. Fringe Republicans can do nothing but admire how he fired staff who are culpable, which they haven't seen from Democrats in the same position.

A human and brilliant response from Christie, taking every single question and answering it-no spin, no dodge.

And he's looking great, for all the self hating fatties who criticize him for his size.

To be clear, though-I loved the fleece, but initials belong on the shirt front, not the sleeve cuffs, Governor!

Posted on: 2014/1/9 17:38
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Re: Steve Fulop says he shouldnt have to 'kiss a ring' to get good legislation passed
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Yes, and the Port Authority is an independent agency in charge of the bridge.
Why would Christie want to create a huge traffic jam?
Why would Christie purposely lose Federal money for New Jersey education with the Race To The Top program?
Why would Christie turn down Federal Transportation Money for the ARC Tunnel?



Feel free to try and dump on Christie on another thread-but, again, there is zero connection between Fulop needing the Democratic held Legislature to pass his pension reform and Governor Christie.

He simply has nothing to do with the process, it's controlled by Democrat Sweeney and his allies. I'm not sure how hard that is for you to understand, other than trying to throw some shit against the wall and hoping it'll stick.

What's beautiful is that Fulop is trying to follow the footsteps of Christie in achieving pension reform. Even Democrats are learning that public worker/union compensation is unsustainable at current levels, although they are quite late coming to the table. (I suppose Fulop, doing a 180 degree turn in borrowing to pay off retirement benefits, has seen the light).

But I will comment on the Tunnel to Macy's basement. Any funding for such an immensely expensive project, with benefits for NJ, NY, and the Northeast corridor, which places all of the inevitable cost overruns (untold billions, as in the Boston Big Dig) on NJ SOLELY would have been disaster for NJ taxpayers. He was absolutely correct in pulling the plug.

Were the Feds and NY willing to be equal partners in the overruns as they were in the base funding I'd say go for it, although I'd like some changes in the design.

People who want NJ to be the patsy in this may disagree, lol.

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Re: Steve Fulop says he shouldnt have to 'kiss a ring' to get good legislation passed
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Everyone seems so eager to blame this on Fulop, at the same time we learn exactly what Christie did to the mayor of Fort Lee with the GW Bridge lane closures.
Think maybe the legislation would have passed had Fulop endorsed Christie?
Has everyone for gotten Brett Schundler's experience working for Christie and the Race to the Top education funding?
It's a pattern, folks.
It's not Fulop's fault. I'm glad he is shining a light on this petty tit-for-tat by the State, carried on at our expense.


Democrat Sweeney has all the control over this issue, Christie, in the Executive branch, has none. Did you not see who Fulop chose to get into a pissing match with??

I know today's a good day to try and dog pile Christie, but there is zero connection to be made between Christie and this issue.

Why would Christie want to NOT achieve pension reform?? That's been what he's been about.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 23:13
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By the time the 2016 race begins, the 4 killed in Benghazi under Mrs. Clinton's watch will be a MUCH bigger deal than a few traffic jams under Christie's.

Both disavow involvement.

Of course, we haven't seen every email between Mrs. Clinton's staff, the embassy, US armed forces that may have saved lives over the 12 hour assault. Nor have we found out why she lied about the video.

What we do know, is that when Christie found out, he fired close friends from cushy, six figure income jobs, and will likely fire the gal apparently behind this.

Which will be three more people than Mrs. Clinton fired over the FATAL Benghazi attack and its coverup.

But I totally get how the looney left are getting stiffies and moist over this-enjoy your moment, because it won't last.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 22:57
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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I have 5 employees that work for me and they don't send emails on my behalf without me knowing about it. Lets not make excuses for a bully who's staff did a shitty thing. If he did not know what his staff was doing, what kind of leader is that? Not a very good one.


I guess than you'll be shredding Obama over IRSgate?

Or Mrs. Clinton over Benghazi??

Please don't be partisan.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 15:42
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Re: Chris Christie 'Suspiciously Connected' To Revenge Traffic Jam
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Until I see something tying Chris Christie himself to the lane closures (not his 'office') it's all ado about nothing. Likely it was an overzealous staffer thinking she was doing her boss a solid.

Like the people in the PA that he forced to resign, he'll do the right thing and fire this woman as well.

That's what leaders do.

On the other hand, all the Christie haters better not get too gleeful about this, since Fulop's decision to blockade the trucks coming from the Port Authority ship terminal for 'safety reasons', while in a dispute over $400 million he says the PA owes Jersey City, appears eerily similar, causing similar traffic jams. Except that Fulop is tied directly to that himself. If the drive-by media is getting their panties all moist over Christie and cone-gate, then this would warrant similar attention, no?

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Re: Steve Fulop says he shouldnt have to 'kiss a ring' to get good legislation passed
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They had a short piece on the issue during last nights 'Chasing NJ' on Channel 9 at 10pm. While they did speak to the two prospective bidders, and the money McCabe will pay JC, zero mention was made about the in or out of network concerns to the taxpayers who will be using the winning vendor, and how the costs will vary between the two.

If this was a concern to me I'd contact Chasing NJ about this.

http://www.chasingnj.com/

Edited to add-this is trying to be a new, hip way to view NJ politics and interests-almost TMZ like in format-that has been noticed by NJ pols, as Christie has cracked some jokes about them, as they jab him on occasion and he's jabbing back!

Posted on: 2014/1/8 13:49
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When riding our bikes we picked up a menu from the place by the light rail-I ended up tossing it out, because it was either never open when we drove by, or when we called and got through no one could speak English and my Spanish is virtually non-existent so we didn't order.


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Wow really? They didn't seem to change much, so what did they do just change the name and sign? The decor looks the same and those huge statues on the patio are still there.


You're thinking of the one near the light rail tracks.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 12:46
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Re: Rutgers graduate, 22, dies after car plunges into water off Jersey City
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Let us not forget two police officers did something similar by driving in the water. It is dark in the early morning hours. The city has no problem issuing parking tickets but doesn't recognize the danger this cause?


There is no comparison you could make between the tragic accident of the policemen driving off the bridge, which was the case of both equipment malfunction followed by human error, and this which (likely) is due to a person making a bad choice and driving impaired.

http://www.njlawman.com/Memorial/Jersey-City.htm

Posted on: 2014/1/8 2:37
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Re: Nope, he will never make it through the Republican primary election
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I disagree, but time will tell. One encouraging thing is that polling is trending very well for Christie against other Republicans, and that the far right at this point just wants to get a Republican back in the White House.

We're a long way out. Some pundits are even saying that Mrs. Clinton will run on a 'repeal Obamacare' program because the baggage from Obamacare will be too big of a burden for her to overcome otherwise.

Posted on: 2014/1/8 2:05
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some republicans would say christie is a sell-out


Yes, that's true. The same thing is said about Obama re: Gitmo, NSA spying, random drone murders from the far left. The furthest from center will never be happy with those in the center.

The left, currently, is trying to play this up to position Christie as unsupportable in the primaries. Not surprising they want to derail his ascent, as they fear him the most among Republicans.

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