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Re: Parking Issues Around Hamilton Park
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Your logic is confusing. Yvonne blocked the permit hours extension because she said it would make it harder for people who don't live downtown to park downtown. So now more, not less, cars can come in after permit hours end at 5, not less. That doesn't lessen car ownership at all. In fact, its exactly the opposite effect.


Why on earth the council sided with and validated that despicable fat slob, who knows. They should know by now her and her parking cabal spout nothing but made up facts and nonsense.

Posted on: 2016/9/21 21:38
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Re: Parking Issues Around Hamilton Park
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Staying static and becoming dense to the point of not having adequate parking are not the same thing. With regard to your comparison to Columbus and Marin, I think it can't go unnoticed that he housing stock there is very different. The Hamilton Park Neighborhood has always been mostly brownstones. The recent addition of multi unit housing was never part of the original fabric of the neighborhood. While, I am not totally opposed to some development, the development should be more appropriate to the area and should not depreciate the quality of life in the neighborhood. If we were to carry your argument further, it would stand to reason that you may support the idea that Hamilton Park should be converted into more multi unit buildings or a parking deck. Which I think would be a disaster Quote:

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So you just assumed a nice neighborhood close to Manhattan would stay static? If there was plenty of parking, by the second law of thermodynamics, that parking will be equalized with the rest of the city. Do you think people who live on Columbus & Marin have street parking?


MDU development is necessary because we're in a huge housing crunch right now. Unless you want us turning into San Francisco, the only solution is to build up than around.

There are also plenty of people living in downtown that don't own cars and don't need parking spaces that pay the same tax you do. Why should MY tax dollars pay for your stupid luxury of free street parking when we have tons of half empty garages throughout town you can utilize to make your life easier?

I suspect your answer will be "Wah wah wah, it was like this when I got here, I'm ENTITLED to it!"

Posted on: 2016/9/21 17:38
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Re: Small Ignorant and Intolerant Minds Masquerading as Enlightened
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This website is a private entity, much like Facebook or Twitter. It is the owner's jurisdiction to moderate and/or delete posts as they see fit and the owe no explanation.

If you don't like it, start your own forum dedicated to religious gatherings in JC.

Posted on: 2016/9/18 3:46
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Re: Jersey City mayor-elect orders end to citywide reval
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It is in the article besides, I spoke to the reporter who wrote the story. O'Donnell receives legal work from JC, he is on the committee to pick the reval and he gave a 100% score to the firm in his building.


Just because the firm is in his building doesn't mean there's a connection. I work in a building with lots of other companies, doesn't mean I'm personally or financially connected to them in any way.

Posted on: 2016/9/16 21:19
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Re: Masterplan meeting at City Hall tonight
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Well, that was an exercise in "we're listening" theater. I'm surprised they didn't suggest the JC master plan could bring peace in the Mideast, they seemed to believe it could solve all sorts of other problems like social justice and employment. No discussion at all of the "ecosystem" of the city, how and why changes in density and usage make a plan obsolete.


Could you elaborate? Did they have a blueprint in place already? What was the general sentiment of what people were calling for in there? My fear is that these meetings will be packed with Yvonne acolytes and neighborhood association types that will advocate for half the city being turned into a parking lot.

Posted on: 2016/9/16 2:20
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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Real Estate 101 teaches that all else equal a home in a quiet spot will have a higher value per square foot than one next to a club open til 2AM.

Brightside Tavern has been a consistent problem for their neighbors. I'm told the owner has been reasonably helpful and tried to work with the neighbors. Even with owner assistance there are still quality of life issues that would not be there if there was no bar.

328 owners want live music and a sidewalk cafe. Do you really think they are properly soundproofing the structure?



FWIW, I live right near Brightside and I've had zero issues. Perhaps a couple loud people walking down the block or people stumbling around, but guess what, that's part of living in any city. I appreciate the fact that they're there and I have a local place to go and meet my neighbors and grab a bite. You seem to think a shuttered storefront is a better option.

Your concept of real estate may be valid for suburbs but certainly not a modern city. If you need proof: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/17/rea ... bars-and-restaurants.html

And no, just because most of Van Vorst is zoned historic, that does not mean it should be hermetically sealed and sterile zone. In fact I would love it if the updated master plan had some zoning changes to bring the ground floors of these old buildings into commercial use.

It seems certain people forget the "CITY" part of Jersey City. And cities change. Move to a suburb if you don't like it.

Posted on: 2016/9/14 20:11
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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If you look at the streets which share the courtyard with 328 - Mercer, Varick and Monmouth are all residential. Montgomery has a laundry place and a shuttered museum; otherwise residential. Laundry spots tend not to lead to late night drunken noise, loud commercial HVACs, kitchen exhaust smell, etc.

No chip, just been around the block long enough to know that putting a big bar in a residential area leads to a lot of quality of life negatives, lower property values etc.


Except all the things you state *are not true*. We keep bringing up the examples on PJ Ryan's and Brightside. Did property values plummet and quality of life go down when they opened up? Quite the opposite. This bar/restaurant is not at all large by bar/restaurant standards. The fact you think that a street with existing commercial property adjoining streets with no existing retail is a reason for there to be nothing is idiotic.

If you want a sterile residential community, there are plenty of suburbs in Bergen County.

Posted on: 2016/9/13 22:40
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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DanL - unfortunately 328 Montgomery is in the Montgomery Gateway Redevelopment area. The Plan was written back in tbe 1970s when that stretch was vastly different than it is today. This is exhibit A for why the city needs a new master plan.

It makes no sense to have a 2500 square foot club/restaurant in an area that is otherwise residential. Furthermore, the owners are counting on the JCFD to NOT enforce the 49 person max occupancy.

Those who know restaurant math - please share the economics on how any owner could make money leasing 2500 sq. feet with a max occupancy of 49 (staff included)...


Well, thankfully for the people in the area that DO want to see more residential and local retail, there's nothing you can do to stop it at this point. I maintain in the absence of proof, your absurd claims aren't true.

For what it's worth, I live two blocks from where this will be and I'm hoping this jumpstarts more businesses coming to that area. Many of my neighbors that I've had this discussion with agree we need better and more local retail, so once again, we have no evidence the views of people opposed represent a majority of people in the area. I hope this becomes a successful business and brings more restaurants and actual useful retail to that block.

And if anything, this will all serve as a giant middle finger to neighborhood NIMBYs who think they're entitled to keep Downtown JC circa 1975 around forever.

Posted on: 2016/9/13 15:01
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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If you wish to see the plans that show there is only one way in and that is the same way out, the Planning Department at 30 Montgomery St, will be happy to show them to you.

Then you will be able to see for yourself.


Sorry, burden of proof is on the accuser. Making what sound to be unrealistic claims and telling me if I want to see evidence I need to march to city hall and ask is ridiculous.

Did you yourself do that? I think not. It's easy enough for people to jump on the NIMBY bandwagon and keep making ridiculous claims. Sorry Bread and mfadam, it's on you to back up your claims.

As I said, I suspect you won't because it'll invalidate every stupid argument you're trying to make.

Posted on: 2016/9/13 2:01
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Re: Drop By Barcade to Support the Embankment Preservation Coalition
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Wasn't there some chatter about making the space part of a light rail expansion if the park concept doesn't work out?

Posted on: 2016/9/12 18:48
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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not sure anyone knows whether it will be Hard Grove 2 or something else.

what is public are the architectural plans and they show a very small number of dining tables and a lot of space devoted to bar/lounge area...



Again, can you please post a link to said public plans so we can verify your other claims of one ingress/egress? You already admit that you don't know for sure that it will be Hard Grove 2, so that already blows one of your arguments out of the water.

Brightside has a very large "bar/lounge" area and not too many dining tables, as does PJ Ryan's. Again, this is ridiculous conjecture and NIMBYism at this point.

Posted on: 2016/9/12 15:21
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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I don't think comparing the new Hard Grove to PJ Ryans or Brightside is all that accurate. Both those bars were existing establishments when the current owners moved in. Some may even consider the bars they replaced as nuicance bars. ( PJs former occupant was known for a special menu that was sold in grams, and Brightsides's former occupant was a veiled experiment in nihilism (but kinda fun) called Booney's). Hard Grove is going into an area that hasn't had a bar in 40 years. So it's understandable that the neighbors are leary.
Hard Grove istself changed from a family friendly diner with great Cuban food, cheap, drinks, and dancing at night under the original owner; to a disco that served "not as good" food during the day, under its current owner. So thats another reason to be leary.
I prefer Rolon's above other DTjC bars, which coincidentally started on Monthomery, maybe the same spot of new HG, before moving to Keyhole in early 70's.
BTW Brightside is not an Irish bar.


I think it's also not accurate and unfair to take the past performance of an establishment in a different location and say with 100% certainty it's going to be a repeat. The neighborhood and demographics have changed quite a lot in the area.

I have yet to see any of the NIMBYs railing against this produce a single shred of documentation or evidence supporting their claims of what the concept will be and that this is going to be some neighborhood nuisance. It's all been hearsay and conjecture based on a couple people's personal dislike of the owners. As far as I'm concerned, there's no evidence it's even going to be called "Hard Grove", all we know is that the same group/owners that ran the prior establishment are setting up this current one.

Will all you NIMBYs and VVPA people *please* present some hard evidence to back up your claims? Until you do, as another poster stated, this is NIMBYism at it's worst and thinly disguised racism. I suspect they either can't or will not because like most NIMBY arguments, they easily fall apart in the face of real facts and they end up looking like fools.

Posted on: 2016/9/11 18:13
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Re: Drop By Barcade to Support the Embankment Preservation Coalition
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Your point is that the city shouldnt spend money on anything but basic shit like parking lots and things like the highline which has brought world class attention to nyc are a complete waste of money.

Again the highline aspiration is a bit much for JC and i dont think its necessary for the embankment but theres still room for basic historic conservation especially for public green spaces without blowing obscene amounts of $. Bridges with stairs and fences wont cost millions of dollars and maintenance of the trail itself can be handled by volunteers.

The last thing the city should do is develop it or turn it into a parking lot.


Kinda telling that the only other person that shares this view is Yvonne.

Posted on: 2016/9/11 15:16
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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This is what we need more of. Unfortunately, the neighborhood associations have way too much latitude in determining what businesses get to come in and whether or not to allow businesses to open up at all. If someone doesn't properly tithe or kiss the board's rings, they get deemed a "bad neighbor" or some such thing.

Posted on: 2016/9/7 17:52
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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It's a nightclub pretending to be a restaurant. No sane person wants this in a historic district/residential area given all the associated problems.

You think they're gonna do a good job soundproofing it? You think they're gonna stick to their max occupancy of 49 (staff included) daily? Do the owners have a good track record with neighborly relations?



What proof or documents do you have that this is intended as a "night club"? And what sort of nightclub is such with a capacity of only ~45 people (if you exclude employees)?

There are other bars in the neighborhood such as PJ Ryan's and Brightside Tavern that present no problems, and I'm sure the usual VVNA braying occurred when those establishments were coming in.

This is nothing more than NIMBY bs.

Posted on: 2016/9/7 14:45
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It blows my mind that people would have a problem with a restaurant renovating a blighted space on a block full of already blighted looking businesses that's mostly surrounded by section 8 townhouses (Montgomery Gardens). It seems most Van Vorst area residents think this area is some sort of Pleasantville and everybody has multiple cars and is going to drive into the area to patronize a neighborhood establishment.

Not to mention any complaints about noise are not at all credible when it's already sits on a very busy and very noisy 4-lane section of Montgomery.

The VVNA crowd pulls some sort of excuse out of a hat every time something larger than two stories attempts to get built in the area or god forbid somebody might want to open a business and bring some life back into the area. From vague generalities like "they're not good neighbors" or the old standby of "PARKING PARKING PARKING!", they never seem to lack irrational excuses for opposing literally anything.

Posted on: 2016/9/7 3:51
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Re: Hard Grove Cafe
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And these people are going to park "where"? And emerge late at night drunk "Where?" I'm sure I am not the first to say "WTF?"
[Am I allowed to type that?] How do we fight this?


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As usual, the trash in the VVNA would rather have abandoned storefronts than a useful business in the area and come up with ridiculous reasons like "parking" and noise (despite the fact this is a very loud, busy 4 lane highway).

I'd have more respect for them and their worthless board if they just came out and said "we want to maintain the glory days of 1985 forever. The neighborhood was a shit hole and had nothing in it, but at least we all had unlimited free parking!"

Posted on: 2016/9/4 18:29
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Re: Dullboy for sale
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UPDATE: Seems the listing was posted in error and it is, in fact, NOT FOR SALE:

http://jerseydigs.com/dullboy-cocktai ... eet-jersey-city-for-sale/

Posted on: 2016/8/16 21:24
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Re: Jersey City mayor-elect orders end to citywide reval
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I just heard through the grapevine that some homebuyers are getting spot reassessments at sale value, just for ownership transfer, not for reno or condo-ing etc. Can anyone confirm this? They said it's just been in the last 2 years.


"Spot reassessments" - what "grapevine?"

Call the tax assessor's office and explain to them what you've heard. They're friendly and at times surprisingly forthcoming with information.

I think that is likely BS but anything is possible.


I did hear of this anecdotally on the Harsimus Cove NextDoor page. I believe someone purchased a single or two family on 5th street for around $750k. Saw their taxes jump from $5800 to $15500.


I recall the thread - it was a recent purchase, combined with renovation work the prior owners did (required permits to be pulled) that triggered it. Most people probably have nothing to worry about.

Posted on: 2016/8/15 20:42
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Re: WAZE App showed me the rest of JC
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The replies I'm seeing here are absolutely ridiculous. So the OP made some naive and ignorant sounding remarks. At least he/she seems self-aware of that and wants to want to get out and make some positive change. The "community" here should look beyond the cause and focus on the effect.

How many of you drive through those same parts and say "this part of JC is a dump, *someone else* should do something about it?" At least he wants to try and make a positive change and wants to get off his ass and do it. All anyone on this forum seems to do is bitch about the mayor, taxes and transgender bathrooms without personally contributing anything themselves. Why not do something to actually encourage someone who wants to make a positive change? Unbelievable.

Posted on: 2016/8/15 14:13
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Re: Rainbow to be replaced by Hoboken restaurant group responsible for 1 Republik
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They seem to know what they're doing and we don't know what the concept will be. They'll of course do a study of demographics and what local tastes generally seem to be and cater accordingly. This (probably) does NOT mean loud music and bros are on the way, since even today, that's way out of step for JC. Let's wait and see what the concept is first before getting out the torches and pitchforks.


The flaw with your reasoning is that they'll be targeting DTJC residents at all. Hoboken and DTJC are both now destinations. Look at Hoboken, the age of it's avg resident has gone up quite a bit, but the bars are still full of 20 somethings from out of town. The late unlamented Music Box on 7th, far from the beaten path, had a clientele entirely from out of the neighborhood.


That is true, but it's also a risky bet on the part of the owner's that they'll be able to pull in a demographic much different than what's already here. We can assume they're paying a ton in rent, not to mention the cost of a buildout, new equipment, etc. With that much outlay, I'm just guessing they'd rather not take a risk on something out of sync with the local market and will go for something they know would do well and appeal to a wide range of people.

Having a stream of out of town bros come in on a Friday and Saturday night won't be enough revenue to keep a place that large afloat if it's not appealing enough for local residents on weekdays.

Just my observation is that JC is attracting more the Brooklyn hipster crowd than finance bro types. I would expect to start seeing a much larger influx now that the details of the L train shutdown are being made official and I would assume they're going to bake these changes into whatever concept they come up with.

Notice though, I say "guess" and "assume" a lot, so I could wind up being completely wrong and we get a douche hellhole :)

Posted on: 2016/8/7 17:05
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Re: Rainbow to be replaced by Hoboken restaurant group responsible for 1 Republik
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I think everybody here is hyperventilating a little bit. The same group that bought the other space owns 3 pretty successful bars, 1 Republik just happening to be one of them.

They seem to know what they're doing and we don't know what the concept will be. They'll of course do a study of demographics and what local tastes generally seem to be and cater accordingly. This (probably) does NOT mean loud music and bros are on the way, since even today, that's way out of step for JC. Let's wait and see what the concept is first before getting out the torches and pitchforks.

Posted on: 2016/8/7 15:40
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Re: BIKE LANES in Jersey City
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Have even been renderings of protected bike lanes released anywhere?

I really, really don't see why Montgomery and Grand need to remain 4 lane freeways through most of downtown. Those two roads would be a perfect pilot for those. Even ripping up half of them for new light rail expansions would be a better use.

Posted on: 2016/7/21 14:57
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I'm not going to agree or disagree with whatever discussion comes of this, but is there a way for us to filter stuff that really isn't Jersey City or local politics related out of the forum feed?

There are a million other places people can go to where national politics can be debated. And no, clicking all the other forum categorizations doesn't work as this nonsense cuts across all forum categories.

Garbage like this bubbling to the top is the reason why nonsense threads like the Muslim thread and despicable Yvonne's rantings get so many responses. What happened to the forum upgrade that was being discussed a couple of months ago?

Posted on: 2016/7/18 22:36
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Poor Yvonne must be having the biggest existential crisis of her life right now. A poor surface parking lot is being dug up...bad. But a big, beautiful, possibly unnecessary parking deck is going up in its place...that's great! But there's going to be awful, awful street level retail with a much needed grocer and create an enjoyable public plaza...terrible! And not to mention it could back up traffic in parts of the city...horrendous! What to do??

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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Jersey City Up Front has an article posted today regarding details of the planned Whole Foods space:

http://www.jerseycityupfront.com/neig ... ullboy-expands-food-menu/

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Link to the original article on Jersey Digs:

http://jerseydigs.com/whole-foods-met ... owers-jersey-city-update/


I'm surprised no one has chimed in about the FIVE LEVELS of parking integrated into the building. That's a parking lot across from another (the one at 50 Columbus, which is usually mostly empty) and across the street diagonally from another parking lot (the one at Grove Pointe) that is usually somewhat empty, as well. I thought we were trying to move away from the idea of reliance on cars and towards more pedestrian friendly concepts.

In any case, I think it also speaks volumes that neither the Planning Board, nor Traffic Department, seem to think that traffic in the area is already a chaotic mess. WTF?


Normally I would agree with you, but this is a grocery store.

Do you intend to see folks walking across those major roadways with shopping bags in tow or pushing their carts to these other lots and then returning those same carts to the store?


Um, yes? It's a dense as hell city and this location is on top of a subway station. There is no need for parking, especially with other (empty) garages on the same block.

How much parking is allotted for the Trader Joe's in Brooklyn Heights? That's a neighborhood with similar density and similar % of car ownership to DTJC.


You need to escape your bubble and realize that most people need cars, especially when going to the grocery store.

No chance in hell to get any kind of major grocer in DTJC without plenty of parking.


How do we know this was really up to the city? Perhaps planners did want to shelve parking or severely restrict it, but Whole Foods is very, very picky and has strict requirements for the places they pick. For example, the WF in Gowanus is relatively new and encircled by a huge surface level parking lot and that area has a comparable density to DTJC.

If WF pushes back against parking restrictions and walks, the city doesn't get its high end grocer and you still have a populous clamoring for better grocery options.

Personally, while I don't like all the extra parking, I don't mind it so much if it's well hidden and NOT on the ground floor, so we can still have an engaging commercial space. Too many projects have gone up with parking smack on the ground floor, forever eliminating the chance to have useful retail or something else there.

Posted on: 2016/7/13 19:40
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Re: Tender Shoot Farm Closing
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Despite the huge population coming in, our grocery options somehow keep getting reduced.

Posted on: 2016/7/1 17:36
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Re: Boggiano 2017 Signs
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If you've ever read the Jersey Journal, it's clear my father isn't afraid to speak his mind. One of the perks of not having gubernatorial ambitions is that he's liberated to say what he believes.

Maybe that'll cost him the hipster vote, but 30+ years of history suggests it's pretty popular with people who care about issues such as litter, potholes, functioning public services, and government accountability.


You certainly didn't do your father any favors by dismissing the concerns of downtown voters and referring to them as hipsters. Yes, because the people moving and living downtown are all broke college kids and not working professionals? Very nice.

So far you've done nothing to reverse the perception that your father is out of touch and only cares about what people like Yvonne think, who make up a very small voting bloc of the city, despite what they themselves believe.

Maybe that's fine if he has no intention of running for mayor and serving his ward till the end of his days. He can continue insulting the mayor, Downtown residents and anybody under the age of 40 and cruise to reelection if that keeps working for him. If not, as of this point, he can enjoy the 30% of the vote he's shaping up to receive in any city wide election. If he has his sights set on higher office I really recommend he reads up on modern urban planning and figures out what other cities are doing to keep themselves economically competitive. He's probably be surprised to find out it's not preserving street parking at all costs and making the city miserable for anyone who doesn't own car (which is about half our population at this point).

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He only cares about what he believes to be best for Jersey City...

Sometimes newcomers have great ideas, and sometimes those ideas are well intended but naive or impractical. National and international politics rarely apply at the local level, but if there's anything the Brexit, Donald Trump, and Bernie Sanders all have in common, it's that there's a large number of people who are tired of elites rigging the system and dismissing the concerns of common people. If it helps, my father voted for Bernie Sanders.


You better believe that if your father has his eyes on the prize and you're claiming to speak here on his behalf, this forum is monitored by print media and he will be called to back these statements up.

Personally, I agree with what another commenter stated about him seeking to turn Downtown into Bayonne. I'm convinced your father just doesn't get the fact that Jersey City is moving closer and closer into the 24/7 sphere of NYC and is widely becoming an extension of it. Bemoan that all you want, it's unstoppable at this point. More than anything, Downtown and the Journal Square area are going to resemble Brooklyn and we need a mayor with 21st century urban policies to reflect that, not someone overly concerned with preserving street parking, automobile rights and kowtowing to the regressive views of the Yvonne Balcers of the city.

Better huddle and think of an effective response to these criticisms if you want to win any voters in Downtown.

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Richie also has a history of referring to people who are Jersey City residents but not native as "outsiders" and a general anti-outsider tone, which will undoubtedly be highlighted in any city-wide election. That prejudice may fly in his neighborhood but how can he possibly win a city-wide election without support of non-natives? He wants to turn the pedestrian plaza back into a car road, how will downtown residents like that? He should enjoy his twilight years with family.


I also recall seeing a video of him being livid that the awesome eyesore parking lot next to City Hall was torn up for the Charles & Co. building. Right, because Downtown has a shortage of run down parking lots and we're in desperate need of surface-level parking. This might be the kind of thing people in his district want, but he's woefully out of touch with the real needs and development issues of areas like Downtown.

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