CommanderKeen wrote:
god hate PETA

flying_the_flannel wrote:
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tern wrote:
wibbit ,

Many children's parties have alcohol for adults, it's not unusual.

Robin.

I was about to post the same thing, but then I thought maybe Wibbit was saying that the person who had the open containers was out of their mind if they thought they could get away with it discretely with all those kids around?

I'm not sure but if wibbit could clarify I'd be into that.

hamlet wrote:
All I basically said is, cops should not allowed to be assholes and bullies. They were given a responsibility to protect us, not oppress us. I'm not contesting the law, or looking for sympathy, I'm asking if anyone had a similar experience. As usual JCListers get sidetracked in talking smack on each other :).

I didn't have 'CASES OF ALCOHOL', just 2 six packs of Heineken Light (for 25 adults) and i was never arguing with the officer, just pleading with his sense of reason.

The only reason i posted it 2 months later, is because i was waiting for the results of the Park Police investigation until now.

To whoever posted the contacts, thank you very much. Very helpful!

PS If we let them do this to us, they will. When the term 'breaking the law' becomes so vague and interpretive that a jaywalker is treated like a criminal, you will remember the liberties we all took for granted.

hamlet wrote:
Did anybody else had a bad experience with Liberty State Park police lately?

On September 16, I was throwing a birthday party at the Park playground for my 4 year old son, his friends and their parents. I have reserved my spot with the Park Office and had the permit displayed at the area. Everything was going great: i set up the balloons and 2 tents, games, snacks and pizzas, goody bags, birthday cake you name it. We had about 25 kids and 20 adults in total. Everyone was having a good time, until 2 Park Police cars pulled up to our area. The officer on duty came out and immediately singled a mother of one of the children. She was sitting at the table and had an open beer bottle next to her. He really got in her face, demanding to know if the beer was hers. She looked terrified and intimidated, so i stepped in and said the beer was mine. He told me i was lying and demanded to know who all the open beers belonged to. I told him they were all mine (i was really embarrassed by the whole situation and was trying to keep other parents out of it). I explained that we didn't know, we were not allowed to have them and that i would happily throw them away and remove the unopened bottles to the car, but it seems he was out for blood. I pointed out that this was a kids birthday party and all the adults were responsible parents, not thugs. I was pleading for him to stop being so aggressive and he told me that, if i said another word he would arrest me and disband the whole event. At this point my wife pulled me away and tried to reason with him, but he was completely unsympathetic. First he collected everyone's driver's licenses to issue summons. The parents were all upset and the kids were very confused by what was happening. After checking everyone's licenses in his system, he returned all of them, except my wife's who he issued a $75 dollar ticket. Then the police left, but the party was kinda ruined :(.

We didn't know the no-alcohol rule in the park, but we were happy to comply with it. There was no reason for the police aggressive and belligirent behaviour. He should've used his judgement and realised that we were not a threat to the public, and politelly asked us to remove the beers. Instead he terrified half of us and totally abused his power.

My wife and other parents complained to the Park Chief about it, and i just received a letter from him stating, that his investigation concluded that we were uncooperative and deceiving which caused the officer to become firm with us. In other word we were wrong and he was right. I'm so upset about it, that i will be gathering signatures of everyone in that party and sending letters to various local government agencies asking to investigate this matter further. Any advice on how to handle this, or who to write is greatly appreaciated.

Did anyone have any similar experience? Please let us
know.

PS I have noticed that the police is getting more aggressive and forcefull out there. What is going on!?!? Do they think that everyone is a potential terrorist. We must resist this at all costs, or we will wake up one day in oppressive police state.

West wrote:

Video and story.
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/video_derrion_albert

Iwitness wrote:

Three people can be a group, but I wouldn't consider three people a "large gang." And given the panic created at the use of the word "gang" it's hardly an objective term when used to describe criminal activity for which there has been no objective evidence of organized gang activity introduced.

There's another thread floating around that tells of eye-witness accounts of large groups of teens involved in violence. It's got people on edge, rightly so. Conflating this crime using buzz-words that evoke something other than what was reported is irresponsible.

Words matter.

jennymayla wrote:

Ha. Hardly. You know nothing about me except for some bullshitty things I post on a community message board. You have no idea. In all your "crime's down healy said so" ranting, have you and I ever engaged in a discussion about the total shitiness of the city we share? I think not.

Seriously, Icechute, STFU.

I simply stated the obvious. If it hits too close to home for you, perhaps because you jumped to the conclusion that I didn't believe you, then that's a shame. I've seen enough wacky stuff go on around here and since this is literally down the street from where I live, I wanted more details.

And now I have them.

And as for the inevitable hysteria I feared? Bring it. Totally justified, now that we have eyewitnesses.

Healy says he recommended approval of that building's request because it is "in an area that is clearly more remote than 77 Hudson."

griyenga wrote:
hi guys,

I am planning to buy a 1 bed apartment in the gradview, 61 grand st at jersey city paulus hook area. What do guys thik about this place in terms of :

- Sellebility at a later point in time?
- Area ?
- The building does not have amenities and that makes me think if I should buy at any of the newport condos. We are confused with a few apartments at the portofino.
I kow for a fact that Portofino is an older building, but is a full service amenity building.

What is your advise : Granview or the newport condos like Portofino, mandalay, trump?

Any suggestions advise is highly valued -!!!!

Thanks

Bogart wrote:

I suppose you also think you have the right to pull out of a parking space or driveway in front of oncoming traffic or to bypass a line of cars waiting to take an exit by driving in the through-traffic lane up to the front of the exit lane, then stopping, blocking the through traffic, while cutting into the exit lane?

Judgement call? Unbelievable.

Oh, and it sounds like you don't know or don't care that the speed limit on JFK and Montgomery is 25 MPH. I think that's ridiculously slow, but I blame the city, not the drivers.

Bogart wrote:
The respect for all the rules of the road here is the worst I've ever seen. I don't think I ever noticed the practice of jumping out to make a left turn in front of oncoming traffic as soon as the light turns green before moving here.

GnomeGeneral wrote:
Aw come on, rabies shots? WTF are the chances that this dog has rabies, what a pansy.

the victim's Goldman Sachs identification card

mfadam wrote:
Maybe some of these 6 figure employees will complain loudly about the crowding/delays with PATH and that will help out regular JC commuters.

As always the govt shells out dough to get these people here, but they don't think about the logistical considerations.

jennymayla wrote:
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wibbit wrote:
lsp and lsc are nice, but the driving to there is not. I remember getting off grand st and driving through the local roads there a couple times, and always you got gangbangers lining up the street.

Driving is fine just be alert if you are the only car at a stop light, but i wouldnt want to walk there.

You are making this up. Gangbangers? Lined up along the street? Always? I cannot accept this is true.

I have driven to LSP countless times over the years and never once felt unsafe. And I'm sort of a chicken.