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Re: Boonton Reservoir
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I have no idea what your real agenda is here, but now that you've brought this to my attention, I plan to support it. Thanks!


Same here!! I had no idea this was up for discussion and vote, but now that I do, I plan to support it and will encourage others to do the same.

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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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For anyone who wishes to see actual data, and not the lies pushed by Yvonne, refer to the actual JC budget documents, or take a look here: https://public.tableau.com/profile/jer ... 11-2016/2016TotalRevenues.

You will see that PILOTs account for a full 35% (a little higher, actually) of the taxation revenue (~128MM out of 350MM).

In order to replace that much revenue, you would need to have 16 BILLION worth of real estate property, paying the new rate of 1.62%. Remember that the city only gets to keep about half of that rate (with 25% going to the county and 25% going to the schools) which is why 16 BLLION would only generate 128 MM in taxes. Explain to me how we are going to replace 128 MM worth of revenue by adding a paltry 3 Billion dollars worth of real estate??

Posted on: 7/10 15:48
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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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bodhipooh, bodhipooh, bodhipooh, Collecting more money still put JC in the hole compared to towns that do not give out tax abatements. Before reval, the ratable base was 6 billion, about $2.4 to $2.8 billion is missing know as tax abatements. If they were added the ratable base would be nearly $9 billion and the tax rate would probably drop down to $55.00 per thousand instead of the $78.00 per thousand.


Goodness, woman. You are SO USED to your own lies, that repeating them must come easy. Adding the existing abated properties to the regular ratables will not lead to lower taxes! That's a TOTAL LIE. Those properties are paying taxes in the form of PILOTs, and the city gets to keep 95% of those funds. If you could wave a magic stick and overnight convert every abatement to a ratable, you would have a HUGE budget hole. How would that hole get plugged??

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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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If property is tax abated, it does not help, that is a contract and the city spends that money as fast as it receives. If it is not tax abatement then it is a ratable, which stabilizes the tax base and the county, schools will get their fair share.


You have NO IDEA what you are talking about, but that has already been established! Ratable or abatement, it is still money to the city. Whatever money the city gets from an abatement, it represents actual "income" which means the city needs to raise less money via regular taxation.

And, of course, there is that little pesky fact you choose to ignore: the abatement payments actually add more money to the city coffers than if the property in question was paying regular taxes. Why don't we talk about that??


Bodhi, you know I am a fan, and it pains me to say this, but Yvonne's point is very valid. Yes, abatements add to the city's coffers, but at the expense of the schools. It works as long as the state never realizes they're overfunding the district and the state aid continues unchanged, or increases.

Right before our very eyes, we're seeing the house of cards situation unfold. The state now recognizes it sends way too much money to Jersey (those paying property taxes post reval will have one of the lowest property tax rates in the state), and are pulling the funding. If you had less abatements, the city would be better prepared to absorb the tax increase that will result from the state pulling the aid. Instead, they're going to levy a corporate tax. And when that option runs out, guess who pays? The rateable portion of the city. Fulop will stop at nothing to keep from raising municipal taxes to fund the schools, because he has a streak to protect, but that day WILL come. And it's going to be ugly.

Abataments definitely have their place. I'm not anti abatement. But, abatements in JC help any sitting mayor fund pet projects that win votes. When abused, you create a massive fiscal issue, just like the 30 year delayed tax reval.


Yes, abatements don't get shared with the county (except for a paltry 5%) but the city still contributes to the school budget! The school does not rely on just direct taxation and contributions by the state and federal governments. The city government also sends a chunk of money to the BOE.

The part that drives me nuts about Yvonne's selective presentation of information is that she conveniently leaves out that the city collects MORE money through the abatements than it would under regular taxation. That larger amount translates to lower taxes. Ultimately, the budget is essentially a fixed amount (call it X) and it is made up of several sources of revenue, mostly taxes, PILOTs (abatement payments) and things like fines and fees. If the PILOTs were to go down, then the revenue has to be made up elsewhere, and since you can't force fees and fines high enough, fast enough, the only viable solution is to increase revenue from taxation. That means taxes would have to go up to make up the decrease from revenue generated through abatements, and go up by a larger overall amount than the one paid through the PILOT to make up the effective difference.

Posted on: 7/10 9:19
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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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This item has been moved to the July 24 Planning Board. Tonight's big item is the Mocco projects, built way beyond permitted plans using materials strictly forbidden. Should be fun.


Now THIS is something that people SHOULD be vigilant about, and insist that the city hold the developer accountable. Enforcing approved plans, and ensuring that suitable materials are used, should be a major concern of the city's buildings department and inspectors.

Posted on: 7/10 9:06
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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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If property is tax abated, it does not help, that is a contract and the city spends that money as fast as it receives. If it is not tax abatement then it is a ratable, which stabilizes the tax base and the county, schools will get their fair share.


You have NO IDEA what you are talking about, but that has already been established! Ratable or abatement, it is still money to the city. Whatever money the city gets from an abatement, it represents actual "income" which means the city needs to raise less money via regular taxation.

And, of course, there is that little pesky fact you choose to ignore: the abatement payments actually add more money to the city coffers than if the property in question was paying regular taxes. Why don't we talk about that??

Posted on: 7/9 20:20
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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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Does every crevice of the city have to be built up as soon as possible as much as possible?

I used to live on Monmouth on the other side of Old Colony Mall. I still take my kids to P.S. 3. I go shopping at Ranch 99 and have the occasional craving for Popeyes or a donut from Dunkin Donuts. A while back I used the auto body shop to fix a banged up car for a few hundred bucks that the insurance company insisted was totalled. Point being that I've been around there and still have occasion to go there.

Sure you could spruce up those few blocks and build some townhouses or apartments, but is the city really hurting because they haven't done so yet? If the current landowners are really squatting or speculating that's one thing, but if it's just a question of waiting a couple of years, or maybe building a little smaller, then why give a developer the power of eminent domain at the expense of current owners, residents, and business owners?


In light of the recent tax increases in Downtown due to the reval and pending school tax increases, it's in DTJC's best interest to build as dense as it can, wherever it can. Many homeless people live in that area in the abandoned housing and that area does not feel safe at night.


This right here is the most convincing and honest argument for increased development. We just completed a reval that is causing many homeowners to cough up substantial increases in property taxes. Those taxes will invariably go up substantially in two or three years, once school funding is adjusted. Any opposition to increasing the tax base is silly given the financial realities of the city.

Posted on: 7/9 18:04
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Re: 'What is this, Russia?' Jersey City property owners fight developer
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Regard your comment on how the areas looks--Not everything has to be luxury residential buildings.



It's not a binary thing, you know!? It's not "third world country, sh!thole situation" or "luxury". Any development in that area would be an improvement. The area, as it currently stands, is really, really nasty and it is almost impassable. The road is a mess and the body shop parks cars all over the place. It's way past time to get something done about that area.


Posted on: 7/9 13:37
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Re: Kushner in New Jersey unraveling
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I find it amazing how liberals tout themselves as tolerant until you have a different point of view. Then the hate and bullying comes out. It is bullying plain and simple.
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I like how this has become a constant refrain from the very same people that spew hatred against every minority group on the planet. That somehow we all need to be tolerant of your hatred and lies and bigotry. It's almost comical how frequently right wingers complain about the "so-called tolerant left" and my favorite recent example is this:

http://www.wpta21.com/story/38592321/ ... is-forced-out-of-building

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The church maintains it is not intolerant of others beliefs, but that it's finding those on the other side of this issue are intolerant of the beliefs of Remnant Fellowship Church.


"whaaaaaa, why won't the left tolerate us telling gays that they are all going to burn in hell?"


As much as I dislike Yvonne, and agree with your overall point about certain people/organizations demanding/expecting tolerance for their outrageous views, I do feel compelled to point out that I think some liberals willfully conflate the attitudes or behavior of some far right kooks with that of your garden variety conservative. That's just intellectually dishonest.

Being a conservative, or Republican, does not automatically make you a bigot or a kook.

Posted on: 7/7 22:11
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Re: Kushner in New Jersey unraveling
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I find it amazing how liberals tout themselves as tolerant until you have a different point of view. Then the hate and bullying comes out. It is bullying plain and simple.


Ha ha ha! You are the only person to have ever accused me of being a liberal.

Stop grasping at straws, and please stop embarrassing yourself. Your lying ways, hypocrisy, and ignorance are in full display. Just because so many of us have collectively decided to call you out on it, and not just stand by idly, it does not make any of us a bully.

Posted on: 7/7 18:10
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Re: 4th of July in JC @ Exchange Place - Featuring Snoop Dog
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Was this supposed to be a "concert" or a "performance?"
Notice that Kelly Clarkson and all the Macy's 4th of July entertainment is called a "performance."


Re: concert vs performance... isn't that a distinction without a difference?

Posted on: 7/7 11:20
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Re: Kushner, Unfiltered - The Real Deal
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This information on his personal life did not bother Fulop when he gave the tax abatements in 2013 along with $10 million in redevelopment bonds.


That's not the same Kushner. The KRE Group Kushners are Murray and Jonathan. Murray is Charles' brother. They are estranged.


This has been pointed out to Yvonne on multiple occasions. But, as usual, she ignores any facts that stand in the way of her narrative. Her actual answer to someone pointing out to her that these were two different people (and, who are estranged from each other) was "well, I don't believe they are estranged because they are brothers". She is legit ignoring established facts to push her false narrative. I have said it before, people like Yvonne are an embarrassment and a danger to society and democracy. Her wanton lies are truly deplorable.


The one thing you can count on from JClist and some of its bloggers, is the fact, they trash someone who posts a different point of view, believing they are defenders of truth but are are nothing but bullies.


Pointing out your falsehoods and hypocrisy is not bullying. It is holding you accountable. Which, ironically, it is the very same thing you claim to be doing when criticizing the mayor, the city's administration, or any other number of things.

Posted on: 7/7 11:17
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Re: Kushner, Unfiltered - The Real Deal
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Yvonne wrote:
This information on his personal life did not bother Fulop when he gave the tax abatements in 2013 along with $10 million in redevelopment bonds.


That's not the same Kushner. The KRE Group Kushners are Murray and Jonathan. Murray is Charles' brother. They are estranged.


This has been pointed out to Yvonne on multiple occasions. But, as usual, she ignores any facts that stand in the way of her narrative. Her actual answer to someone pointing out to her that these were two different people (and, who are estranged from each other) was "well, I don't believe they are estranged because they are brothers". She is legit ignoring established facts to push her false narrative. I have said it before, people like Yvonne are an embarrassment and a danger to society and democracy. Her wanton lies are truly deplorable.

Posted on: 7/6 19:44
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Re: 4th of July in JC @ Exchange Place - Featuring Snoop Dog
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Just rode the PATH home and they had a repeating announcement letting people know that tomorrow will be a Saturday schedule with additional trains running on the WTC/NWK line. So, there WILL BE increased service for those going to Exchange Place. No word on times for this increased service or how it will impact regular schedule.

NB: PATH service will be suspended all weekend long for the WTC and Exchange Place stops. Service suspension starts at 11:59 PM Friday, and runs until 5 AM Monday.

Posted on: 7/3 19:05
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Re: 4th of July in JC @ Exchange Place - Featuring Snoop Dog
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Agreed on the PATH.. that schedule is just a disaster waiting to happen... especially where it empties out into the stage area. Feel like that schedule is just another opportunity to stick to Fulop and Jersey City.


Way more likely it's just the rigidity of Union contracts and shit like that. Think about it, you'd be asking people to work on the 4th that would be working otherwise.


Could very well be a factor... it is just that in most cities/states hosting events like this, all the public agencies step up and increase service levels like providing extra train service... seems like a public safety issue to potentially let thousands linger after an event is over?

Of course NJ Transit did a great job during the Super Bowl hosting... wasn't it like 20000 people stuck in Secaucus Junction after people were encouraged to use public transportation?



The Super Bowl thing was a total debacle.

What someone else mentioned about the crowds streaming out at Exchange Place is definitely a concern once the festival area fills up. They will likely have to stop the escalators, so it will end up being people walking up the steps, or waiting forever to board one of the two elevators.

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Re: What Will Be Closed in HC if the State Shuts Down
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Funny how nobody is mentioning how this "deal" is going to screw the Jersey City school system. Thanks Murphy.


Correction: This deal is going to finally force JC to pay for it's own schools. Post after post from Steve (and his sycophants) bragging about JC's successes and growths, it's almost like he was daring the state to do this. Well, they did. And, now we will. Party's over.


Agreed on this. A lot. The smugness of parading JC as a success, while building that success on the collective backs of the NJ taxpayers, was almost like prodding a sleeping bear.

I am super glad to see JC doing well. After almost 12 years here, I am still a happy resident and would love for the city to continue to do well, but fair is fair, and the JC of today is undoubtedly riding a gravy train and being smug about it. It was only a matter of time before this all happened. Only those in denial, or the ones completely indifferent, were unable to see it.

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Re: 4th of July in JC @ Exchange Place - Featuring Snoop Dog
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I know I'm a curmudgeon, but am I the only one who thinks this sounds like stressful mayhem vs the chill LSP Fourths of sitting on the lawn to watch fireworks? I can't imagine what the area will be like with 200,000 people packed in there, but relaxing doesn't come to mind.


I will be surprised if the festival goes off without a fight or other "disruptions". Thankfully, temperatures are not expected to exceed 85 degrees. But, that much people in such a small area is a recipe for disaster. Sadly, the state of the pier after these events is usually a mess of litter and discarded bottles. And, with the PATH running a weekend schedule on Wednesday, I foresee near gridlock and lots of people frustrated before they even get to the event.

Posted on: 7/2 11:09
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Re: Newark Avenue Pedestrian Plaza Expansion
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some ideas to jazz up the pedestrian plaza
* stamped asphalt which would be cheaper than pavers


PLEASE NO! This is probably the worst idea ever by the current administration. Stamped asphalt is tacky, and it clearly doesn't work or last.

Definitely +1 on having more seating options, but not sure that things like ping pong tables would be a viable idea. No way to keep those from getting used as another place where to place drinks or dump trash and collect litter, and there is definitely no way that paddles or balls would not get stolen, or lost. Relying on people bringing their own is likely not practical, either. Interesting suggestion about chess tables. The new pocket park next to The One has two such tables, though I have never seen anyone actually using them for chess.

Posted on: 7/2 11:03
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Re: These 28 N.J. towns are booming with families earning $200K or more
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I'm taking my income and taxes elsewhere. Later, suckers!


I am sure you are not the only one making the same calculation. After 12 years of living in JC, and almost 20 in NJ, I am fast approaching the same point: the state is in financial shambles, taxation is punishing (with no signs of it ever slowing down) and it just seems very bleak overall for a person (or, family) with above average income: rich enough to get over taxed, but not rich enough to just shrug it off.

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Re: Newark Avenue Pedestrian Plaza Expansion
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6 people spoke on this, only one wanted this because his child attends the preschool on Newark Avenue. The rest had real concerns.


Wow! 5 people spoke against it. Surely we must stop this monstrosity and avoid trying to foster increased foot traffic and neighborly interactions. I mean, let's get serious, this pedestrian plaza will likely increase traffic congestion over by Little India, and it will likely lead to increased deaths of patients being transported to JCMC.

Your hysterics and fear mongering are pitiful and reprehensible. You ought to do some soul searching and reconsider your actions.

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Re: Newark Avenue Pedestrian Plaza Expansion
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JERSEY CITY -- Despite still unresolved social issues similar to those in the Hoboken bar scene, the Jersey City council voted on June 27 to adopt an ordinance that would expand the Newark Avenue pedestrian plaza two additional blocks west to Jersey Avenue.

Read more: Hudson Reporter - Pedestrian plaza expansion approved in Jersey City


Surprising, but a welcomed decision. The pedestrian plaza has been a great addition and success for DTJC. Yes, there are some kinks to the setup and I am sure some people might be inconvenienced, particularly those that insist in a right to drive to the very front of wherever they wish. But, in terms of the positive impact of these pedestrian plazas, it is undeniable when you take a stroll and see the increased foot traffic and what I would characterize as an increased sense of community and neighborly interactions. Personally, almost every trip to the area results in meeting new people, or running into old friends and acquaintances.

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Re: PATH Trains Increase
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How the hell does a PATH car cost $2.8 million each?


Obviously, someone has to get their cut.

The PANYNJ's lack of proper, vigilant stewardship of taxpayer's money is really disappointing.

Also, it should be pointed out that the subject of the article is NOT a given. It is just a proposal.

Posted on: 6/28 10:54
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Re: Zoning Question
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It is a word of caution, I have known people who have had fires and the insurance company did not pay out because the house had two kitchens and not one.


Taking the time to properly comprehend what you are reading would help you make valid, worthy comments. In this case, the OP is doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you describe and cautioned her about; she is looking to go from a 2-family situation to a single family.


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Re: What’s going there? (Journal Square edition)
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Is PJ Ryan’s closing? Someone mentioned this at the Hilltop association meeting.


damn, hope not. i actually liked that place, especially during NFL season.


I heard that the downtown PJ Ryan's is closing but the JSQ one is staying and potentially a new one opening somewhere else on the west side of city.


That would be a shame, and a surprise. I haven't been there in a while, but the last time I stopped in, they were busy. I have always liked that place. Good bar food, and (usually) really good draft beer selection. I haven't visited the JSQ location (way too far for me) but I have heard it is actually really good.

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Re: Jersey City Headlines Snoop Dog for 4th of July
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Hypocrisy is just hypocrisy. Snoop Dog was denied the right to visit Australia due to his criminal record, but he is OK for JC. http://www.foxnews.com/story/2007/04/ ... -for-criminal-record.html


You are such a dolt! Do you understand the difference between immigration laws and non-immigration laws?? Snoop Dogg was denied entry to Australia based on his prior criminal record. We do the same in this country!

That visa decision/rejection was based on an immigration statute dealing with criminal records. Can you quote a Jersey City municipal law or statute that says an artist with a criminal record can not perform locally? Or, that such a person is not allowed to enter our city? No? Hmmm... could it be that your fake analogy is just that? Get a clue, and stop embarrassing yourself.

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Re: Jersey City Headlines Snoop Dog for 4th of July
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When you go to council meetings now, Lavarro reads a list of behaviors from the public, including removal it you utter inappropriate language. Snoop Dog made his living using inappropriate language. That is really double standard. So what is Ok for the waterfront is not Ok for the council chambers.


You are losing it... Do you not understand the difference between a public forum for government discourse and artistic expression? Do you understand that the government can and does regulate how it conducts its business, but can not, or should not, regulate an artist's expression, even if (or, particularly when) it does not agree with it?


Anything other than a church choir would be unacceptable to her...I'd like to know what artist she'd pick that can draw a decent crowd but has no curse words in their entire album history LOL. Why is she even complaining, she'd have to pay for parking to get there, so even if it were her preferred entertainment source she wouldn't attend anyway.


Yvonne's astounding lack of self awareness is at once both breathtaking and perplexing. Try as I may to ignore her, I am sometimes simply unable to keep my mouth shut. A person like her is not just annoying, but truly dangerous, as her toxic views and nonsensical thoughts are a negative influence on the state of our city, and the community at large.

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Re: Jersey City Headlines Snoop Dog for 4th of July
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When you go to council meetings now, Lavarro reads a list of behaviors from the public, including removal it you utter inappropriate language. Snoop Dog made his living using inappropriate language. That is really double standard. So what is Ok for the waterfront is not Ok for the council chambers.


You are losing it... Do you not understand the difference between a public forum for government discourse and artistic expression? Do you understand that the government can and does regulate how it conducts its business, but can not, or should not, regulate an artist's expression, even if (or, particularly when) it does not agree with it?

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Avoid the popular times - use google maps. For example, Wed-Fri after 3pm is fairly quiet. Also it helps a lot to show them a smile and a bit of courtesy.


That last line is THE TRUTH. The folks at the MVC endure a TON of abuse from the public. They don't make up the rules, but they have to enforce them, and people unleash on them over required paperwork and other details. While, in theory, they should be courteous and friendly to all customers, I can see why they can also be curt and short at times. If you had to deal with the public all day, and be on the receiving end of expletives or rants, I am sure it would take a toll. A smile and a courtesy, a simple willingness to engage with them in a friendly manner, is likely to net you a better interaction.

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Re: MVC Notice of License Expiration
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Your past experience with MVC is unfortunate. I would encourage you to visit a different location. The location on Summit Ave is very efficient and I have never had an issue there, and I go at least two or three times per year. The one time I visited the huge location close to Paramus was chaotic, but it was the closest one that could handle/accommodate a motorcycle road test, so I had to go there. Definitely give the Summit Avenue a try, if you haven't.

Posted on: 6/19 10:22
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Re: Eyebrow help
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Any suggestions for eyebrow grooming for a gemale with moderately thick brows? I don't think i want threading.


I've had my own grooming considered a crime, but most people would not admit it! (Note the category of your post)


Given recent news report of some seriously adverse reaction after brow treatments, I suppose you could argue this falls under the safety category. ;)

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