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Meanwhile, the video of Curtis Sliwa which Trump points to as proof that there were "thousands and thousands" celebrating on 9/11, actually debunks Trump's big lie. The Sliwa clip was edited to leave out important facts. Even Sliwa is calling out Trump for the falsehood.
Quote: Last week, Sliwa wrote on his Facebook page that Trump incorrectly implied that video of groups of people in the Middle East cheering the attacks actually took place in the U.S. Sliwa wrote that the video actually came from ?the West Bank of Palestine, not the East Bank of the Hudson River!? Oops! Trump Cites Video Debunking 9/11 Story As Proof He Was Right
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So after the terror attack on Planned Parenthood, do you think that we should also shut down Christian churches which use hate speech and encourage violence? Arrest all the radical preachers? Is that what you want? Are these "practical steps" which you would support?
Posted on: 2015/12/1 20:17
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As I was walking down Grand Street toward the water on 9/11, I was told by a construction worker that there was a squadron of Syrian jets approaching from the Atlantic. He knew it to be true because someone told him. That wasn't the only false rumor I heard on 9/11, although that may have been the craziest. The problem is that many believe the rumors that confirm their particualr biases. Trump lies, claiming that the saw it all himself, "thousands and thousands" of people celebrating, so that he can stir up fear and hatred. And the gullible and the hateful believe every word.
Posted on: 2015/12/1 16:01
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I heard the rumors as well after 9/11. I heard lots of crazy rumors They proved to be groundless. And even Trump is no longer repeating his lie about "thousands and thousands" celebrating.
Posted on: 2015/11/29 18:35
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Your first person reports are always second hand. Even Trump has backed away from the lie, and yet you still repeat it. I guess that say all that need be said.
Posted on: 2015/11/29 14:52
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Trump has now backed away from his lie that he saw "thousands and thousands" celebrating in Jersey City on 9/11.
His poll numbers are also dropping. Quote: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Saturday reframed his claim that he saw Muslims in Jersey City, New Jersey, cheering the attacks on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan on Sept. 11, 2001 by asserting the sentiment was shared worldwide. Trump asks heckler to be ?nicely? escorted out as he reframes comments about Muslims cheering on 9/11
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Every urban legend begins, "I know a guy" or "my neighbor told me," or "there was a cop...." And, not so strangely, the urban legend always reflects the particular set of biases of the story teller.
After a tragedy like 9/11, there are lots of crazy rumors. The fact is that local police and the FBI investigated the stories of Muslims celebrating and found nothing. The same happened when the local and national press did their own investigations. They found nada, zip, zero. The one thing that is absolutely sure is that Trump's statement that he personally saw "thousands and thousands celebrating" is a complete lie.
Posted on: 2015/11/27 18:41
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If this bizarre outburst is in any respect representative of his views or reflects the way that he deals with the public, this gentlemen should be looking for a different line of work. This self-inflicted wound on social media may have done the community a service.
Posted on: 2015/11/26 17:49
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No, Plastic Man or Mr. Fantastic. Kamala Khan, Ms. Marvel, is a complicated and conflicted Jersey City high school kid who happens to develop superpowers. She was born in Jersey City in a Pakistani immigrant family. Her parents are moderate but strict. Her brother is a more observant Muslim. Kamala goes to the Marvel version of McNair High School and has an ethnically mixed group of friends pretty typical of Jersey City. In the Peter Parker/Spiderman tradition, she fights evil while dealing with day to day issues, like how much she really wants to eat a BLT sandwich.
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I know that the Muslim-bashers on the board will never admit it, but the obvious truth is that Trump is a bald-faced liar. He says he personally saw "thousands and thousands" celebrating in Jersey City on 9/11. He later specified that he saw this TV. Where is the video tape? It doesn't exist because it didn't happen. The press never reported celebrations by Muslims. They reported allegations and investigations that some Muslims may have celebrated, but nothing was ever substantiated. I was at the waterfront on 9/11 with thousands of others and I know that there was no celebration by anyone. I also recall that these were crazy times filled with rumors and wild stories. I do recall a bodega owned by an Egyptian that was mobbed when word got out that the owner had a photo of Bin Laden behind the counter. Turns out the shop owner was a Coptic Christian and the photo was of the Coptic Pope. I have no doubt that everyone who heard about Muslims dancing in the streets did hear the stories. I just question whether anyone ever saw it happen. It is always somebody's cousin or neighbor. Even if there were small numbers celebrating that doesn't change the fact that Trump is a fear mongering liar and bigot. Post-9/11, we found no evidence N.J. Muslims celebrated terror attacks
Posted on: 2015/11/24 17:30
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"This is yet another example of Trump?s revisionist history of his own recent statements. Trump didn?t say that he had read reports of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating the attacks; he said he had seen thousands of them doing so. This seems like the sort of thing people other than him, and apparently Ben Carson, would remember seeing. (Update Nov. 23, 6:02 p.m.: Carson has clarified that he was thinking of people celebrating in the Middle East, not the United States.) Perhaps Trump?s investigators can dig up this footage as soon as they finally get back from Hawaii with proof that Obama?s birth certificate is forged." (Emphasis added.)
Trump Is Tapping Into One of the Oldest 9/11 Urban Legends
Posted on: 2015/11/24 14:27
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You are very funny. I love being told to keep "spewing hate" by a out and out bigot. Your ilk are in the majority only in your fevered dreams.
Posted on: 2015/11/24 2:10
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You want us to believe that rag of a blog? Speaking of lies, lies and hypocrisy and fantasy worlds. You really are insane.
Posted on: 2015/11/24 2:00
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My mistake. I misread the poster. Sorry.
Posted on: 2015/11/23 19:35
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Did you bother to read the article that you linked to? "In the immediate aftermath of the attacks, The Star-Ledger did a search for evidence of Arab-Americans cheering in Paterson ? the city with the second largest population of Muslims in the country ? after rampant rumors began to circulate. The newspaper concluded these were unfounded. "
Posted on: 2015/11/23 19:11
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LOL. You are really very funny.
Posted on: 2015/11/23 18:31
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That the best you've got? More bullshit and lies. More unsubstantiated rumors and slurs. You bigots get so damn boring. Trump?s Week of Fearmongering and Falsehoods
Posted on: 2015/11/23 18:28
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I remember. The Blind Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman, now serving life plus 15 years. There are radicals in every community. The FBI just arrested a group of white supremacists in Virginia who were stockpiling guns and explosives to attack black churches and synagogues in order to start a race war. All of which does not change the fact that Trump's claim that there were "thousands and thousands" celebrating the fall of the towers on 9/11 in Jersey City is a hateful lie.
Posted on: 2015/11/23 17:29
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Obviously facts and even basic reality don't matter to you, as you are so happy to believe Trump's lies. And personal safety? White supremacists are as dangerous as Islamists. White supremacists have killed twice as many Americans as radical Muslims since 9/11. Funny how white supremacists overwhelming support Trump. Homegrown Extremists Tied to Deadlier Toll Than Jihadists in U.S. Since 9/11 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/ ... of-top-terror-threat.html
Posted on: 2015/11/23 17:00
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By the way, for any of the clowns using an unlinked Washington Post article to justify their hateful fantasies, the Washington Post is calling Trump's lies precisely what they are:
Trump?s outrageous claim that ?thousands? of New Jersey Muslims celebrated the 9/11 attacks https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fa ... lebrated-the-911-attacks/ Specifically regarding the September 18th Washington Post article: Update: Some readers have tweeted to The Fact Checker a Washington Post article from Sept. 18, 2001, as evidence of Trump?s claim. The article, which appeared on page 6, described FBI probes after the attack in Northern New Jersey, saying in the 15th paragraph ?law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.? Of course, ?a number of people? obviously does not equal ?thousands? ? and ?allegedly? indicates there is no video footage or other proof that celebrations actually took place. Recall that Trump claimed he saw this on television?and that it was ?well covered at the time.?
Posted on: 2015/11/23 15:04
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Bye, JMan. You obviously wouldn't recognize a fact if it bit you on the ass. You are too deep in your bigotry and ignorance.
Posted on: 2015/11/23 1:01
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Blow it out, Jman. You obviously cannot handle the facts. Your denials are as lame as your insults.
Posted on: 2015/11/23 0:55
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Fool, I was in JC. I was at the waterfront where there was indeed no celebration of any sort. The fact that you want to believe lies because they fit your particular bigotries is entirely your problem not mine. And that the fact that you call me a liar only demonstrates what a low-life cretin your are.
Posted on: 2015/11/23 0:52
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Now that is really stupid, Jman. Politifact checked out Trumps claim and ruled it "Pants on Fire." It also looked at the Washington Post article you cite and concluded: "The Post story includes no source for this information, and we found no evidence that any of these allegations ever stuck." http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met ... -thousands-new-jersey-ch/
Posted on: 2015/11/23 0:48
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Sadly amusing how the brain-dead bigots twist the facts to suit their particular hatreds. Yes, Trump claimed "thousands and thousands," which, of course, is a bald face lie.
Not that facts matter to the right-wing haters/
Posted on: 2015/11/23 0:41
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And lies are lies. And bigotry is bigotry. You obviously have nothing to support your claims, but you think that we should believe you when you rant about "filth" and "vermin?" Sure.
Posted on: 2015/11/22 23:01
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Yvonne, the Reuters article that I linked to said that the "celebration" in Patterson never happened. I note that you have not linked to the Star-Ledger article. In any case, Trump is still a damnable liar. There were not "thousands and thousands" of people cheering in Jersey City on 9/11 as the towers fell. I was there. I know.
Posted on: 2015/11/22 22:19
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"Paterson was shaken by the September 11 attacks. On that day, a report circulated on some radio stations and Internet sites that Muslims in Paterson had demonstrated in celebration.
Paterson officials promptly issued a statement denying the report, and Muslim leaders insist it was pure fabrication." Read more at Reutershttp://www.reuters.com/article/2007/0 ... 70726#MKtl874SHLjFETZD.99
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