sporkster wrote:
No one has asked the most important question...

IS HE SINGLE???

jcnative wrote:
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Weeding, especially in this digital age, is a regular necessary process, kinda like pruning the branches to keep the tree healthy.

Annod wrote:Sonia Araujo, assistant library director, said the books were not "just being thrown away."

"It's a weeding procedure that every library in the world does," she said. "It is a way of us trying to keep out books that are factually incorrect - medical books, science books and computer books- so we can make room for new editions."

Outdated and damaged books from the library's 12 branches are first offered to different community centers and schools or put in the library's used book store, she said, but if nobody wants the books, they become brittle and yellowed and are eventually discarded to make room for new books.

piglet wrote:
Hey, I forgot who said that the VV dog run doesn't stink. It does! I went by there the other day, when it was hot and humid and it smelled horribly....like urine and poop. I don't know what you people were talking about?

HPDweller wrote:
I passed by the run yesterday and did not detect any offensive odors whatsoever, I stopped and leaned on the fence to watch the doggies too so i got close enough to detect any foul smells and I'm happy to say there weren't any

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parkman wrote:
I?m really getting tired of having to respond to every little complaint ...

Parkman, you are not obligated to respond to every single complaint -- you have already gone above and beyond what anyone else would have done. Thanks for all the hard work. Now take some time to enjoy it and let the critics go somewhere else.

Plus, with the exception of the noise complaint, just about all the other complaints seem to come from one single person who, contrary to what he may believe, is not speaking for the many others who use the dog run and enjoy it.

(Now I have to go into a JCList relocation program to protect myself from his fury, but whatever.)

r_pinkowitz wrote:


The city ordinance has a 10pm curfew in all city parks. It's not enforced but, if people get stupid with the dog run issues, and want to challenge the time they can be issued a ticket. If there is 1 or 2 people who choose to make it bad for others. Have a talk with the community relations officer at JCPD. A 60 ticket is no fun to pay and will teach them to play nice real fast!

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RABBITRABBIT wrote:

By the way parkie: All the friggin signs are making this victorian park look like a friggin war zone. can't they be a little more subdued?

Apparently their size and quantity isn?t sufficient enough for a few of the dog owners; they continue to ignore the rules.

And I?m surprised you haven?t spotted the typo in the run, very disappointing.

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NONdowntown wrote:
Don't know if i'm just reading too much into the tone of this post, but i have a stinking suspicion that 'ThirdRail' and his/her pooch make use of the VVP dog run after hours...

actually i recently moved out of the downtown area. I was about 100yards from the dog run but moved before it was built. If I was still in my last home, I wouldn't be in the run cause on of my dogs isn't too friendly towards other 'pooches'. All I was saying is that I've seen a lot going on in the park, a few dogs barking is one of the safer of them. Annoying- yes, but like I said, most responsible owners should take note (can't speak for all of them)

And yes you are reading too much into an internet post.

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Mr_X wrote:
Hello, I live right on the park. The dog park is right outside my window.

I've lived here for 4 years,

You really should have looked into a neighborhood before settling there. The talk of a dog run has been going on for some time now.

There's "talk" of a lot of things happening in a lot of neighborhoods. I think it's a bit disingenuous to suggest that any resident who moved in four years ago is on constructive notice that a dog park will be installed outside their window, and it's their problem if they don't like it.

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If the dog run is closed at 10pm, the whole park should be closed, that's the law right?

Absolutely not. If the problem with after-hours dog-run use persists, the city has sufficient discretion to close off the dog run without closing off the rest of the park. Just as the city is able to keep the restrooms in public parks locked at off-hours, without padlocking the park.

Don't know if i'm just reading too much into the tone of this post, but i have a stinking suspicion that 'ThirdRail' and his/her pooch make use of the VVP dog run after hours...

fat-ass-bike wrote:

Mr_X wrote:
"what's interesting is that this guy comes out to yell at the dog owners if the dogs are barking, but when there was a very loud fistfight between who drunks the other night, he was not to be found and did not call the cops. While I feel his pain (and just to be clear - i am right near the park too and have been awoken early and on weekends due to the barking) his noise complaints are certianly geared towards a certain type of recipient. He doesn't call the cops on the loud cars, the crazies and the drug dealers. Just the dog owners."

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Here's the thing... I used to run to my window anytime I heard someone screaming. A year ago some woman started screaming. I went to my window and some guy was beating her by the payphone across from the library. I grabbed the phone and dialed 911. The cops were there before they picked up the other end of the line though. I call the cops anytime I see violent or dangerous activity. I want my family and friends to be safe too.

I'm not going to call the cops on a passing disturbance. Boisterous people walking home drunk, loud cars passing, even loud neighbors throwing parties until the wee hours on occasion. That's all to be expected in this neighborhood. (I'll post my other ideas on noise in another thread sometime)

But when I hear screaming outside every 10 minutes each time a hound tries to mount a poodle, it desensitizes me to the possibility of real danger. So in reality, it makes the park less safe when there are no people in there. I've heard wolf cried too many times.

trp3 wrote:
OMG rabbit, I feel like a dog in heat.

fat-ass-bike wrote:THE DOG RUN IS CURSED

fat-ass-bike wrote:
People are fine, its the individual ass-wipe that doesn't follow rules and authority. If joe-citizen tells or reminds one of these 'individuals' the rules, they are more then likely to get a 'fcuk-you' as a response............but good luck doing the 'soft' approach with the after hours dog issue. If it was me, I'd be on the phone to the cops and animal control if its crap not being picked up.

Kindelan wrote: IF YOU YUPPY BASTARD, DOG-OWNING RETARDS make it so that a cop comes around and hassles me (or worse a closed gate) it is on and popping, just so you know.

kro wrote:
small tangent...

anyone ever inform the wacky white dude with the two basset hounds to reel 'em in and give others some sidewalk?!

parkman wrote:
The police just vacated the run of about 6 dogs and their owners. The dog owner community must police themselves and respect the rules of this park in order to make our new addition successful. No one wants to start an ?us against them? situation, we will all lose in the end.

It has taken years to make this run a reality, lets not screw it up now by being inconsiderate and selfish.

Mr_X wrote:
Hello, I live right on the park. The dog park is right outside my window.

I've lived here for 4 years, and since they've put in the dog park, it has been a nightmare of barking and yelling nearly 24-7. I've lived with dogs all my life. I love them, but this is hell.

People are in there at all hours, until 1 or 2 am or later, and then again from 5 or so in the morning. They're there all hours, running around with their dogs. The dogs start barking. They get into fights and then the owners yell at the dogs.

They're even louder than the shakespeare people that use the place to practice their drama in the summer, but at least the shakespeare people have the decency to leave the park after 10pm.

How can this stop?
The park is supposed to close at 10pm.
We need our sleep.
We're going insane.

I called the police (547-5477) and asked them to send a cop over, but I hate to involve them in such low-level crimes. I know they hate dealing with this.

I asked the people who were there out past midnight to please keep it down or leave, but they seem not to care.

My neighbor suggested bb-guns and rat posion, but his wife thought lasers and high-frequency speakers might do the trick without jail time.

The dog owners can't be expected to resist the temptation of entering the gates, so what can be done to prevent it from happening or punishing those who do so?

Can we lock the gate after 10pm?
Can we fine people in there past 10pm?
Can we confiscate their dogs if they're in there past 10pm?
Can we do anything more than call 547-5477?

Suggestions, please...

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RABBITRABBIT wrote:

The library is right next door and has bathrooms (and books) for kids....

There's also a Diner and Beechwood and Sweet Priscilla's cafe just two blocks away in different directions

The library bathrooms are great, when the library is open, but it's closed after 5 p.m. on Saturdays and on Sundays.

Beechwood, Sweet Priscilla's and Subia's are all great options for adults, and I think even Bubby's might have a bathroom, but they're way too far away for children between "pullups" age and about 5 who say, "I have to go NOW." In that case, the current options are for the child to have an accident wherever the child happens to be standing, or to try to make discreet use of the bushes.