Re: Community Compstat Presentation November 28, 2007
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BrightMoment wrote: Captain McDonough <jcpdeastdistrict@yahoo.com> to east <jcpdeastdistrict@yahoo.com> date Oct 25, 2007 2:48 PM subject Community Compstat Presentation To whom it may concern, Crime statistics reported by the Jersey Journal on October 15, 2007 were misleading. Please review the Uniform Crime Data statistics reported to the Federal Government by the Jersey City Police Department from 1990 to 2006. If anyone has questions relative to the crime reporting data please attend our first Community Compstat presentation on November 28, 2007 at PS 4 on Bright St at 7PM. In the interim click on the JCPD web site for an updated crime report at http://www.njjcpd.org/ Regards, Captain Brian McDonough East District Commander on our JCPD web site to which depicts for a detailed analyis as it relates Message from the Chief & the Director about Crime Statistics (Comparative Stats & Graphics Included) .Please take time to review a message from Chief Commey and Director Jefferson on the JCPD web site as it depicts a 16 year time line. relates to Uniform Crime Reports Jersey City Crime Statistics over a (Comparative Stats & Graphics Included)
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Re: Who here really, really hates Comcast?
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Posted on: 2007/10/22 4:36
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Re: Jersey Journal & Star Ledger: BIG FEATURES ON CRIME & LOCATIONS -- SEE LINKS
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I posted that because I think Comey gets it. There's definitely a need for shaking things up. I'm not yet convinced though there is a plan. Neither from the police, nor from the JC council.
I think most people would agree that Comey's comments make sense. More police on the streets. More local policing through precincts. More use of tech on surveillance and communication. The sticking point, as always is funding. I think what Comey is missing is hard and fast targets to measure progress. If the City commits funds, I think we need to demand and measure a return on our investment. Also, I think the City might be missing out on places for the funding. For example, why cant new developers be obligated to provide space in high-rises for precinct offices? Doen't that solve part of the "managing office space issue". Why cant all new public and private buildings be obliged to hook up their CCTV to a central police center? And why cant JC seek federal funds for that? I'm sure there are a chorus of civil libertarian issue on that....but why not at least ask the questions.
Posted on: 2007/10/21 2:05
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Posted on: 2007/10/21 1:43
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Re: New developments rising from the ashes - Hudson Reporter
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Looks like it works both ways - people post fragments of stories here and the JJ gets some great ideas for stories from here. I think both helps the other. Greatly.
Posted on: 2007/10/21 1:32
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Re: Jersey Journal & Star Ledger: BIG FEATURES ON CRIME & LOCATIONS -- SEE LINKS
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Let me just translate. If crime stats go down, JCPD take credit for cime prevention. If they go up, they take credit for increased arrests. They have ZERO accountability. Meaning they have no targets to hit. They answer only to the mayor that appoints them, and its in theirs and in the majors interests that they look good. They have zero independent external auditing nor do they set target reductions in crime. No accountability. +200 new police officers in JCPD and zero accountability? How can you lose?
Posted on: 2007/10/20 2:48
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Great and helpful post from 2nd. A few observations.
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Yep. Me too. Though I see police every day at building sites, shopping areas and places like the Path. I really can't remember the last time I saw a police patrol on my block. I might see a poliice car once a week on my street. Crims see the same lack of presence. Quote:
Well put. I apologised for my "vigilante" remark...perhaps politically incorrect. I intended the meaning of "self-appointed watchgroup" rather than anything more sinister. Quote:
Most crime is predatory. I think all the crime reported in the COMPUSTATS can be classified as predatory. Which ones arent? Quote:
As someone also on the ground floor and a personal victim of local "predatory" crime, the statistics mean a lot to me. The statistics also mean a lot to local politicians, City spending and to the value of all our homes. Quote:
I agree on the fact that people should take all personal and legal measures to ensure their own protection and security. I'd like to see the police providing more deterrence. I feel fairly safe walking the streets but I am from an area that is much less safe than JC. My girlfriend doesn't feel safe on the streets on her own, particular evenings. Quote:
Great advice. I'd add...know where you're going. Know your exits. If you need to ...hit hard, real hard, and move fast. Though I'd recommend don't cross the street to avoid people that have already seen you. Shows you're scared and unprepared. Walk straight through them confidently and look them in the eye. If they mean you harm, they're gonna land on you anyway. I'd also add it would be great if there were more police foot patrols that followed your advice on awareness, keeping eyes open, getting to know the neighbors , and carrying a big stick. And gun.
Posted on: 2007/10/19 2:55
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Re: Jersey Journal & Star Ledger: BIG FEATURES ON CRIME & LOCATIONS -- SEE LINKS
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I would add that can Captain McDonough ask the umpteen people that have been burlarised, assaulted, cars broken into in Downtown JC, and worse, a lot of whom live within a few blocks of your precinct headquarters, whether they are comfortable with the level of policing you are providing?
You're "satisfied" and "comfortable". Is anyone else? Seriously Capt McDonough. Go to the website below. Follow the link to "visualize incident data for Jersey City". Then put in any address you care - including your precinct addresses. Totallly shameful. Honestly I hope you get this - because I believe your heart is in the right place. Help us with solutions please. http://www.nj.com/news/bythenumbers/
Posted on: 2007/10/18 5:32
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From today's JJ ...this explains the huge disconnect between what Downtown residents want, and what Capt McDonough feels is needed. IMO Sam has it right.
Im really awaiting Saturday's issue, and hoping Comey has some positive and constructive suggestions, Looks like McDonough feels hes doing ok at the moment though. Quote:
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Posted on: 2007/10/18 5:26
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You can also go to:
http://www.nj.com/news/bythenumbers/ They have google maps on recent crime stats - type in the address and it can should recent nearby incidents. I'd strongly advise against renting or buying any property without making sure it has security measures, and agree with other posters that you have your items insured. Worse case, for example a couple of years ago a woman was raped in an apartment block close to Hamilton Pk. The rapist climbed through an unsecured first floor window.
Posted on: 2007/10/18 1:29
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Hello pot. Meet kettle. Nope - you don't when it comes to the JCPD, but you do when it comes to posters on this website. Quote:
I'm not an employee of the public. I don't have a right to ask questions of public employees on any forum I choose? Why should I care about the Captain's right to challenge me. He's more than welcome I'm sure to post here or answer in any forum he chooses. Quote:
By vigilante group i meant you are a self-appointed watchgroup. Do your thing in any way you like, and I respect the fact that you devote time and energy to improving the neighborhood. I'm sorry you've chosen to see that as a slur - that wasnt my intention. Where I have a problem ...it seems to be your way or the highway. No-one else is allowed to question local policing except through your org. That's what's wrong with your group.
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Oops FAB on re-reading - I thought BM was being a d**khead on this. However, didnt mean it to look like i was answering for you. My apologies.
Posted on: 2007/10/17 3:34
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Think the difference between you BM, myself and FAB...is that we're questioning the machine and trying to understand the stats and explanations. Might be that you're too close to the problem to challenge whats issued in the press. I respect what your personal intentions for the community. I think all 3 of us want to see our community as crime-free. You may not think that I nor FAB have the right to challenge where our tax dollars are spent if we're not personally involved actively in your DJCW or similar org. Sorry ...we have the right to challenge and question any publicly elected or appointed official. I want to know where and how my tax dollars are spent. Anyone that has any investment in this City has the same right. So back off YOUR personal attacks on both of us. Neither FAB nor I are spending your tax dollars or anyone else from JC. If and when we do, then you can hold us accountable. And you've just illustrated why I have zero interest in joining your vigilante group.
Posted on: 2007/10/17 2:05
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I think it's a sad reflection of our 2-tier society that areas like MLK exist. I know both the City and the various voluntary agencies seem to doing their best to provide a number of things from the basics like food, clothing, shelter and security, as well as improving the long-term outlook through areas such as education and jobs. Structured lesuire and recreation should definitely be a priority. The challenge seems to be how to attract the inward investment in terms of funding and people's time.
Posted on: 2007/10/16 19:49
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Guns that work? More street cameras? Improvements in communications and emergency call filtering? Auxiliary police? Higher taxes? Hopefully we can give credit to Comey for coming forward with proposals: its shows the JCPD at least recognise there is a serious set of issues to tackle. Looking forward to reading the article. Quote:
I'm not sure how to read this alongside McDonough's comment. Seems to indicate that despite the new emergency control center, call filtering and routing is still a huge issue. Maybe we'll get clarification in the Saturday article.
Posted on: 2007/10/16 19:29
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My agenda is pretty simple. I'd like the police to recognise there is a serious crime problem downtown and to increase their visibility on local streets. Yes the JCPD work well with local neighborhood associations and yes I think that the local neighborhood associations do a great job. Encouraging improvement to street lighting and neighbors to be vigilent all round can and does help. No better deterrent though than having cops on the beat.
Posted on: 2007/10/16 8:20
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I don't need to be an active member of any local vigilante group to report crimes if and when I see them. And I have reported crimes in progress leading to arrests.
As for parking tickets, nope, never got one. But the only time I see police patrolling my street is the little traffic buggy during street cleaning. Join the police force to sort out the problem? No thanks. I pay enough in taxes for that, and I'd like my taxes spent well, so I have every right to "whine". Particularly when there continues to be serious crimes committed locally For the stats, go to the NJ by the numbers site and type in any address. As for being a "lamo" - behind the statistics there are real victims. Go tell that to the victims of the crimes including those listed below. http://www.nj.com/news/bythenumbers/ Click on address to zoom: (listed by proximity to 207 7TH ST) 207 7th St Assault 2/17/2007 3:30:00 AM 208 6TH ST Arson 5/28/2007 207 EIGHTH ST (8TH ST) Larceny 7/7/2007 7:30:00 AM 207 EIGHTH ST (8TH ST) Burglary 6/16/2007 7:30:00 AM 204 EIGHTH ST (8TH ST) Assault 4/20/2007 8:13:00 PM 221 8TH ST 1 Burglary 5/21/2007 8:30:00 PM 214 8TH ST Burglary 6/19/2007 4:00:00 AM 107 ERIE ST Burglary 3/28/2007 11:00:00 AM ERIE ST & 6TH ST Burglary 5/26/2007 9:15:00 AM 5TH STREET & MANILA AVE Assault 4/24/2007 2:00:00 AM 158 ERIE ST Assault 6/25/2007 12:15:00 PM 158 ERIE ST Assault 3/26/2007 3:45:00 PM 158 ERIE ST Assault 3/15/2007 8:46:00 AM 160 5TH ST Larceny 5/22/2007 9:30:00 AM 160 FIFTH ST (5TH ST) Larceny 5/22/2007 9:30:00 AM 160 5TH ST Burglary 3/28/2007 5:15:00 PM 160 FIFTH ST (5TH ST) Burglary 1/19/2007 86 ERIE ST Robbery 1/19/2007 5:00:00 PM 212 NINTH ST (9TH ST) U-1A Larceny 6/20/2007 7:00:00 PM 212 9TH ST 1A Burglary 6/20/2007 11:30:00 AM 212 NINTH ST (9TH ST) Burglary 5/21/2007 6:00:00 PM 214 NINTH ST Floor: BSMT Burglary 7/4/2007 12:00:00 PM 214 9th St Burglary 2/3/2007 4:30:00 PM Erie St, & Fifth St. Robbery 4/9/2007 8:33:00 PM FIFTH ST (5TH ST) & ERIE ST Burglary 2/15/2007 9:50:00 PM 189 9TH ST Assault 4/24/2007 3:00:00 PM 238 5TH ST Floor: 3 Assault 1/2/2007 7:30:00 PM 7TH ST & JERSEY AVE Burglary 5/21/2007 12:00:00 PM NINTH ST (9TH ST) & ERIE ST Burglary 5/20/2007 10:00:00 AM 647 JERSEY AVE Floor: 4 Burglary 2/16/2007 6:45:00 PM 513 MANILA AVE Larceny 3/23/2007 5:00:00 PM third (3RD ST) & MANILA AVE Assault 1/31/2007 8:30:00 PM 6TH ST & MARIN BLVD Larceny 5/30/2007 9:50:00 AM 230 NINTH ST Larceny 6/17/2007 FOURTH ST (4TH ST) & ERIE ST Burglary 1/13/2007 1:30:00 PM 661 Jersey Ave Larceny 1/18/2007 3:45:00 PM 180 4th St Larceny 1/10/2007 2:05:00 PM 190 9th St Assault 3/4/2007 12:10:00 AM TENTH ST (10TH ST) & ERIE ST Burglary 5/23/2007 6:15:00 AM 177 3RD ST Assault 1/19/2007 6:46:00 PM 181 ERIE ST Assault 5/12/2007 11:04:00 PM 618 JERSEY AVE Burglary 5/28/2007 7:45:00 AM 427 MARIN BLVD Larceny 5/18/2007 4:00:00 PM 180 9TH ST Assault 6/17/2007 11:28:00 AM 180 9TH ST Assault 5/18/2007 3:39:00 PM 180 9TH ST Larceny 5/18/2007 3:30:00 PM 180 9TH ST Larceny 5/18/2007 2:30:00 PM 180 9TH ST Assault 5/15/2007 7:25:00 AM 180 9TH ST Assault 4/3/2007 10:00:00 AM 369 Manila Ave APT 10A Larceny 4/7/2007 6:00:00 PM
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Captain Brian McDonough. Are you seriously suggesting that the having neighborhood associations in the area make YOU look bad on the stats? The stats you publish to Compstat show rapes, muggings, burglaries and even homicides at similar level to other districts, and you have the nerve to blame neighborhood associations for the downtown stats??? Perhaps if you could publish the "correct" stats, we might get a better picture, but given previous history, I doubt JC is capable of compiling and publishing anything credible. The crime stats on Erie street alone, where you have the East district headquarters should be a source of shame for you and your dept. JC is spending homeland security funds on licence plate readers to issue parking tickets, instead of trying to catch the muggers, burlglars, rapists and that roam the area at will. Fulop - this isn't about better lighting and protecting cars from break-ins. Please go the the maps showing the types of crime and where they were committed. Then let's get our JCPD out patrolling those areas when and where the crimes are being committed, and not directing traffic at building sites.
Posted on: 2007/10/16 3:41
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Re: Are Cops drinking on duty in JC? you have to see this video!!!
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Most ppl with their own agendas spend their time questioning other peoples motives. Fuggin agenda police. I didn't read Healy nor local pols into this ancient history event. Though I would question the current conflict-of-interest in having the City police chief's wife running the off-duty JCPD assignments.
Posted on: 2007/10/10 4:04
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Re: Hamilton Park Neighborhood Assn. - Updates
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I think this is actually a good start. It has been carefully worded so as not to propose solutions - that's the job of the association itself. There is nothing in the objectives nor the tips that any dog owner should have an issue with, except mebbie the 20ft rule :). I'll stop by and sign up.
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Re: Hamilton Park Neighborhood Assn. - Updates
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Seems you can't picnic in a JC public park in an area not designated as such. Enforce the sandwich laws!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ? 239-12. Picnic areas; camping; horseback riding. No person in a park shall: A. Picnic or lunch in a place other than those designated for that purpose. Attendants shall have the authority to regulate the activities in such areas when necessary to prevent congestion and to secure the maximum use for the comfort and convenience of all. Visitors shall comply with any directions given to achieve this end. --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: How to (attempt to) buy an election, Hudson county style @ $70 a vote
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1. Dual citizenship simply complicates your life: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_citizenship 2. With US citizenship, yes, you get flown home from countries that have a good relationship with the US. That list of countries is becoming increasingly smaller. US passport holders are probably the most hated global travellers given recent events. 3. Jury duty notices seem to be sent to everyone that pays taxes - for some reason the US government have a hard time figuring out who is and isnt a citizen. The fallacy isnt whether a non-citizen can serve, the fallacy is that different branches of US government know what they are doing.
Posted on: 2007/9/27 13:54
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Re: FOR MERRILL, SIZE COUNTS -- Options might force them to develop a second building in Jersey City
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Thats not the way it works. Merrill's is regulated based on the type of business it conducts in the countries it trades. Merrill Lynch has banking operations that are regulated by the Fed - same with virtually every "investment bank".
Posted on: 2007/9/27 13:09
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Re: How to (attempt to) buy an election, Hudson county style @ $70 a vote
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The 2 biggest disincentives for people with Green Cards vs full citizenship are:
1. Forced Jury service. Green Card holders can tell the jury service demands to go F itself. 2. Abandonment of dual citizenship - why drop protections from another state for the limited and usually lesser citizen protections offered by the US? Sooo... green card holders get the right to sit on juries and abandon protections from another state so they can vote for the machine or anti-machine? Duh!
Posted on: 2007/9/27 6:05
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Re: MANZO: SEND IN GUARD -- Not solution to gangs, Healy says
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Im not an expert, but i woulda thought u need to tackle gangs with the law and not the military. If local law enforcement can't handle the execution of the law, then there are grounds for outside forces. Atm, I fail to see where the national guard can help here without stronger laws.
Posted on: 2007/9/27 4:49
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Re: Article About Your Tax Dollars - Steven Fulop
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I'm a bit slow but figured out what the machine in JC does: it's fuelled by "pay-to-play" funds, designed to process other people's shit, and kicks-back to people who keep it running. Right?
Posted on: 2007/9/20 5:24
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Re: Fulop: Let's tighten our ethics rules
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There are multiple tiers of regulation that make the financial industry the most highly regulated industry aside from possibly the US DOD. The banking and finance industry are tightly regulated by multiple US bodies including NASDR, SEC, the Fed and laws such as Sarbanes-Oxley, Right to Financial Privacy Act and many other. US financial companies are also subject to Global laws and regulators such as Basle Banking laws in Europe and regional regulatory bodies. Personally i'd like to see something like Sarbanes-Oxley inflicted on all tiers of government. Fulop's own employer holds itself to a high level of standards: http://www.citigroup.com/citigroup/co ... e/data/codeconduct_en.pdf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_regulation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarbanes_Oxley
Posted on: 2007/9/20 5:01
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Given the recent arrests of corrupt pols in NJ I think Steve is ahead of the curve on this issue. Council members that vote no are inviting public and federal scrutiny. They better be damn sure they have nothing to hide.
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