Adonis wrote:
Phrasing the question as "Is Gentrification All Bad?" implies that the presumption is that it is, at best, mostly bad.

In reality it is mostly good, if not entirely good. You question might as well be rephrased as "Is Improvement All Bad?". It's kind of an idiotic question.

?I see our job as trying to create a healthy commercial corridor and capture as many retail dollars as we can,? he says. It?s not as if he?s got his eye on Tiffany and Per Se, but he would like the dollar stores and pawnbrokers to be joined by some slightly more genteel options. He mentions Island Salad, a Caribbean-themed place...It?s the sort of place a couple of young Park Slopers in search of an extra bedroom might wander into and think: Yes! I could live here.

Grannum is unapologetic about trying to bring a better life to Bed-Stuy?s poor by attracting the very outsiders who are supposedly making things worse. ?We need affluent and middle-income people,? he insists. ?We need a healthy community, and we need services that are first-rate. I just came from a meeting, and someone said, ?Go to Seventh Avenue in Park Slope and recruit some of those stores!? And I tell them: Businesses don?t bring affluence; they follow affluence.?

thejerseycitylife wrote:
Most of us have enjoyed Milk Sugar Love's delicious organic ice cream at farmers markets and festivals around town... and now owner Emma Taylor plans to open shop in Hamilton Park.

Local Ice Cream Vendor, Milk Sugar Love, to Open a Storefront in Hamilton Park

Best,
thejerseycitylife.com

CdeCoincy wrote:
Same thing at Bloodbath and Beyond in Chelsea and Lincoln Center.

As far as TJ being to small, maybe they just take one floor.

VA2015 wrote:
Quote:

sp2xs wrote:
Quote:

Vigilante wrote:
Quote:

Lima17 wrote:
Quote:

VA2015 wrote:
In Hoboken every single dive bar turns into a "dance club" complete with DJ, disco ball, and doorman collecting cover charge on the weekends. This is a huge part of why the live music ordinance in JC took forever to pass.

Can you name a few? The loud fratty bars are usually that way all week long. I don't know of any dives that start charging cover on the weekends.

I think they were joking about the "every" dive bar thing but as I remember there were a few places that were regular old bars until the weekends when suddenly they'd have velvet ropes, lines and loud shitty music.

I don't know about the velvet ropes, but the Shannon, McSwiggans, and Mulligans meet the rest of that criteria. I know, because those three bars constituted the majority of my weekends a few years back.

Yeah, McSwiggans was the one I was thinking of. OF course I was being slightly hyperbolic, but really I have never seen this sort of phenomenon outside of Hoboken.

MikeyTBC wrote:
Thirty Acres and the list really stops there. You've been under a rock if you dont know.

Others to try that weren't mentioned are:
Barge Inn - home style American Italian.
Honshu - sushi, get the spicy tuna tartar
Lamp Post - has surprisingly good bar food - try the chicken francaise sandwich.

Sutherland wrote:
GPs
White Star
Roman Nose
Park & Sixth Gastro Pub
Skinner's Loft
Casa Dante


I can't believe someone said Hamilton Inn, their food is terrible. It seems it's mostly frozen food out of a box. I get that it's a fun bar to hang out in and eat food while drinking, but I don't consider it a restaurant. They should just order in from White Star.

Vigilante wrote:
Quote:

Lima17 wrote:
Quote:

VA2015 wrote:
In Hoboken every single dive bar turns into a "dance club" complete with DJ, disco ball, and doorman collecting cover charge on the weekends. This is a huge part of why the live music ordinance in JC took forever to pass.

Can you name a few? The loud fratty bars are usually that way all week long. I don't know of any dives that start charging cover on the weekends.

I think they were joking about the "every" dive bar thing but as I remember there were a few places that were regular old bars until the weekends when suddenly they'd have velvet ropes, lines and loud shitty music.

Vigilante wrote:
I miss The Frozen Monkey. Hoboken has too much money now to be a breeding ground for arts, music etc. All that stuff and the hipsters who are actually not trust-fund kids will be moving up the hill to the Heights and other cheaper areas. That's what happens with development and popularity and money. DTJC has already lost it's edge as more and more lame towers are built.

CdeCoincy wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a supermarket inside a regional mall? Curious, because I haven't and wonder why.

Someone pointed out that Sears is on death row. JCP might not be far behind. With all the parking, why not a TJ and/or a WF?

caj11 wrote:
Well, it's official now. The Newport Ferry terminal is no more and service will not be restarted from there. See the link:

http://www.nywaterway.com/AdvisoryDetails.aspx?aid=369

Based on what I, and apparently councilwoman Osborne, was told by the New York Waterway, it seems like they were misleading everyone, giving the indication that they just needed another permit or part for gangway (they said something about ordering a part from Florida at one point) and just a short time away from reopening. This is a major disappointment - why didn't they just say there wasn't enough traffic to justify keeping it open?

tommyc_37 wrote:
The Monk Room menu looks almost identical to Roman Nose's menu. Personally, I'd really prefer something that's not pizza and pasta. Frankly, anything BUT pizza and pasta ... we have plenty of that. I hope these guys open something different here.

VanVorster wrote:
Indie theaters in Jersey City, with its diversity and demographics, would do well and be supported. Not everyone wants to socialize in Manhattan. Hoping White Eagle Hall comes to fruition fast and looking forward to whatever they have in the Powerhouse.

http://www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039 ... re-and-thriving-1.5203635

tommyc_37 wrote:
I'll also chime in on walkability and overall pedestrian friendliness. Let's get one thing straight - in the grand scheme of things (nationally) Downtown Jersey City is extremely pedestrian friendly. Extremely.

But compared to some of our similar neighbors, like Hoboken and brownstone Brooklyn, Jersey City is challenged in some ways. There are some hideous stretches, right in the heart of our downtown, that make pedestrian activity VERY difficult. This, in my opinion is unacceptable. Notorious streets that receive an F for pedestrian friendliness? Marin Blvd - the entire thing. Columbus Drive - the entire thing, at least west of Warren Street. Grand Street west of Marin. Washington, between Grand and 2nd Street or so.

Also unacceptable - that developers are continuing to build structures that encourage the use of cars, and enable people to be reliant on cars. Not only does it do aesthetic damage to all of our eyes by putting massive parking structures that start on ground level, instead of retail spaces, therefore isolating the sidewalks and sucking all vibrancy from them ... but it does the greater damage of pandering to people who prefer to get in their car from the parking garage, and zip off into the sunset, versus attracting residents who don't have a car, don't necessarily want a car, and would prefer to be walking around their neighborhood interacting with people and being customers at local businesses.

THAT is how a city is supposed to be structured.

The Atlantic just published an article on Brussels, and how its mayor is a proponent of banning all vehicles in the city's core. That is forward thinking. Jersey City can do better than it has done.

Trivia wrote:
Quote:

We have MORE than enough bars and restaurants and places to hang out. There seem to be an endless supply of people who want places built to their specs. Ain't happening. What do clubs bring? Crime and stupidity. Have you ever been in Hoboken on a weekend night around the PATH station? It's a joke. Jersey City doesn't "need" that. The last thing we need is a Welcome Mat for idiots. And if you think "well we just need a club that's fun but kind of chill and no troublemakers and blah, blah, blah.." then you are blowing smoke up your own ass.

I dunno, JC was the ghetto for a long time, and still is in most parts. Its seems like arts and culture attracts the right people, at least that's what I've seen in Brooklyn. I don't think JC will ever be like Hoboken, for one it is a lot bigger, and it is not a college town. Believe you me, I do not like the idea of anything Hoboken-like. But they don't really have much in the way of places to go if you are not getting shwasted. I have never been to a gallery there, and the only venue was Maxwells. Its known for its sports bars with huge TV's and drunk yuppies who pretend they live in NY and tell people they just "sleep" in NJ. Egh Hoboken.

tommyc_37 wrote:
What corner is it exactly on first and Erie? What was there in the past?