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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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A woman was killed at St. Paul's & Kennedy by a tow truck and none of you people gave a shit. Elderly man suffers massive head trauma after being hit by a bus on Palisade Ave. and not a peep from the Monday morning quarterbacks and legal experts on JCList. 24 year old struck on Tonnele Ave and a cop working an off-duty job on his post gets the description of the car that fled out and renders aid to the victim as other cops quickly catch the fleeing vehicle. The first questions from you people are why was the 20 year old driver given a DWI.

Cop is involved in an accident and here comes the angry mob with torches and pitchforks yet people wonder where the us versus them philosophy comes from. Here's your answer.

Posted on: 2013/8/12 12:22
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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Here is an example of how much stock one should put into what they read in the Jersey Journal. At the bottom of the article it says that Robinson was arrested at his home at 5 PM.
I know for a fact that Robinson was nowhere near his home at 5 PM on that date.
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... k_police_arrest_je_1.html

Posted on: 2013/8/11 23:52
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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Jcman, again just because he was indicted doesn't mean he's guilty, and again We still have a Constitution in this Country and last I checked New Jersey is still part of the U.S. and again in order for a breathalyzer to be administered there must be PROBABLE CAUSE ,which leaving the scene (if in fact thats the case) in and of itself IS NOT PROBABLE CAUSE. Again since your stating that if you leave the scene of an accident a breathalyzer can be administered , please cite the case law to back up your statement. Take as much time as you need because I already know the answer.(Hint there is no case law)


Please do not interrupt the ramblings of these degenerates with facts.
BTW here's my favorite judicial quote from a well known defense lawyer, "you can indict a ham sandwich."

Posted on: 2013/8/11 21:46
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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I would have thought it incriminating if the off duty cop was drinking with every drink recorded on CCTV prior to the hit and run. It would give you an accurate idea of how much was consumed over what period of time and the time he left the bar.


Or maybe the cop just got out of work and did not exhibit any visible signs of intoxication therefore eliminating the probable cause for an Alcotest?
We haven't used the Breathalyzer in quite a few years just to enlighten some of the experts on the forum.

Posted on: 2013/8/11 21:15
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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Gotta run out for family day but I'll leave the group with something to hash over. No Google please.
Under what circumstances can a cop deliberately lie on a summons and admit to the lie under oath without suffering negative consequences?

Posted on: 2013/8/11 15:18
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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Most bars have cameras, maybe his watering hole that he drank from could shed some light on how much he drank or even if he was staggering to his car in the car park or street!


Or maybe the cameras caught the pedestrian stagger or dart out into the street? That's called speculation or as lawyers say conjecture. There are specific facts that are unique to every case that will be heard in a court of law.

Posted on: 2013/8/11 15:16
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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sepecat wrote:
Sticking up for your dirty brethren, very noble of you, officer.

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bradleybeachbrawl wrote:
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sepecat wrote:
A pedestrian was struck on 1/9 Southbound (Tonnelle) and Manhattan Ave area around 2 in the morning today. Haven't seen any news articles yet.

Breathalyzer was administered. . . I don't want to say this Cop got special treatment, but it looks like it.


Gee I don't want to say that you must be a real asshole based upon your unsolicited opinions without having any knowledge of the facts surrounding either case, but it sure sounds like it.


I'm not sticking up for anyone. Just pointing out the fact that you have no idea what you are talking about. Perhaps a hobby or interpersonal relationship would remedy your ennui?

Posted on: 2013/8/11 15:11
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Re: Man crossing Jersey City street struck and killed by off-duty Jersey City cop
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A pedestrian was struck on 1/9 Southbound (Tonnelle) and Manhattan Ave area around 2 in the morning today. Haven't seen any news articles yet.

Breathalyzer was administered. . . I don't want to say this Cop got special treatment, but it looks like it.


Gee I don't want to say that you must be a real asshole based upon your unsolicited opinions without having any knowledge of the facts surrounding either case, but it sure sounds like it.

Posted on: 2013/8/11 13:43
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Re: Cop causing havoc on the Blvd
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Can anyone think of a more efficient method of catching a speeding car? I would love to know what qualifies sepecat as a police procedure/tactics critic? Is she a vehicle dynamics accident reconstruction expert?
I'd like to know what she does that allows her to sit at home on a Thursday afternoon at 1:15 with nothing better to do than complain about stuff.
I'm sure the cop who has been out in the street for more than 20 years will be awed by your observation that something could go horribly wrong at any second.
I left him a voicemail to check JCList and move further up the Boulevard.
Thank you for informing the general public that the police are enforcing the traffic laws in the stretch of road. Genius.

Posted on: 2013/8/8 23:58
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Re: Cop causing havoc on the Blvd
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Probably parked in front of a van or SUV all the time so he can use radar on cars passing by maybe?
Maybe just maybe this sort of ambush tactic works quite well and when a car goes by at usually between 40 and 50 MPH he uses that big V8 engine to play catch up?
What if the light at Spruce is red when the one at Rte. 139 is green and someone who is speeding will be long gone while the cop sits at the red light on Spruce?
Does he really recklessly run the light or does he always make certain it's safe to go through? As for not putting the lights why not close the gap between himself and who he is after before using the lights?
Maybe that U-turn was to go after a car in the other direction?
As far as the power trip goes maybe he just takes pride in his job?
I know exactly who you're talking about and I'll advise him to find a new spot so you're not offended.

Posted on: 2013/8/8 23:00
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Re: Amid-wave-of-summer-gun-violence-jcpd-talks-reorgani
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These past few weeks, shootings in the headlines have become just about a daily occurrence. That?s bad news for everyone, from the residents who feel unsafe to the new faces in City Hall and the police department, including an acting police chief with under eight weeks on the job, the new public safety director, and a new mayor who unseated the old citing crime in the city.

There?s no time to ease into these jobs, it would seem. And the city knows it. At Jersey City?s first caucus of the new City Council last Monday, the meeting began with a presentation by the police department seeking to reassure the city that the new leadership is ready and able to handle the wave of violence. And the Council has heard the cries for help. Just a week ago last Saturday morning, Ward F Councilwoman Diane Coleman said she received almost twenty phone calls and had three constituents show up at her doorstep crying ?because they had a dead man in front of their door and couldn?t get outside.? That kind of fear helped stem a movement against former Mayor Jerramiah Healy, and with only a few days in office, Mayor Steve Fulop is looking to stem that concern.

To do so, the department must face up to the fact that the ?prior administration? left a budget hole and a department ?in disarray,? in the words of newly appointed JCPD Chief of Patrol Robert Cowan.

In fact, a number of these departmental fixes apparently could have been addressed with a review of police operation and organization ? a plan Council President Rolando Lavarro had previously called for, but was rejected by the prior administration. At the time, the Healy Administration pointed to the all-time-low in the homicide rate and said another study was unnecessary.

And yet just weeks into the new administration, police brass say they have identified misused and under-utilized police officers and resources. Considering the budget holes and the unpopular tax hike, as Ward D Councilman Michael Yun put it, the department has to do more with less due to ?the fiscal restraints.?

By way of example of better utilizing the available resources, Cowan cited the motorcycle division, which will soon reallocate more officers to work at night and fewer during the day. ?Most shootings happen between 8 pm and 4 am,? said Cowan.

All told there will now be eight motorcycle-riding officers at night and four during the day, which is changed from ten during the day and four at night. That is significantly down from the time Ward C Councilman Rich Boggiano worked most of his 35 years in the department, when motorcycles would more quickly get to crime scenes to establish a police presence. The Councilman said he could recall there being about 160 motorcycle officers, a tactic he said was far more effective. Currently the department owns 30 motorcycles, and though only about 12 officers are trained to use them. More training is coming, according to police officials.

Yet this is indicative of a bigger problem, adds Boggiano, who says, ?There?s been a decimation of the police department.? There are now 777 police officers in the city, down from just over 800 a few months ago, he said.

The city is looking to address the smaller police force both by hiring new officers ? there are 37 officers starting by the year?s end and two lateral transfers of officers from the sheriff?s office to the city ? and by better organizing the department.

During the summer months there have been 26 police officers on staff schedule who could be better utilized elsewhere, says Cowan. While 18 of these officers are typically assigned to schools and were only assigned to staff positions for the summer break, Cowan says eight had been working this ?ridiculous? assignment year-round rather than fill the department?s greater needs.

?You can?t have a police officer in a job that can be done by a civilian,? says Ward A Councilman Frank Gajewski, who previously served as police chief in the early 2000s. ?As a detective you?re making six figures, so there?s a big difference with a lower-paid civilian employee? who can do that same job, he says.

Still, Gajewski acknowledges that ?sometimes a person is put in a [staff] position for a valid reason,? but when that ?valid reason is no longer there,? sometimes police brass can ?forget about them.?

?They?re there semi-permanently, that?s why it?s good to review your roles to make sure people aren?t incorrectly staffed,? he says.

Further consideration has been given to different police tactics not utilized in Jersey City but that have proven successful elsewhere, including Paterson, New Jersey?s Cease Fire program.

Calling the program ?a good tool for solving shootings,? Cowan says the plan would change the distribution of assignments for detectives investigating a shooting.

To better stretch resources, Cowan says overtime use will also fall under hard scrutiny. Indeed, some departments were found to be using over 4,000 hours of overtime, some of which was seen as unnecessary by the new heads of the police department. In the Emergency Squad, the overtime pay amounted to nearly a quarter of a million dollars, a problem that could be addressed by structural changes that Cowan says would not diminish the unit?s effectiveness. ?The department can?t carry that cost,? added Cowan, who said this overtime pay would be used more effectively going forward, possibly going to fund Operation Cease Fire, by way of example.

Other ideas under consideration include utilizing a police dog trained to identify and find guns by scent. At present, Paterson?s is the only department on the east coast with a dog with this kind of training, a practice more common in California. The Paterson dog, by learning the mixture of oil and gunpowder found at a crime scene to track guns used in a crime, has already recovered eleven firearms since April.

Some of these changes, argued Boggiano, stemmed from mistakes of the previous administration, which opted to close the Police Academy. That was a decision made under Mayor Jerramiah Healy?s administration, and the savings was identified by Business Administrator Jack Kelly, who has continued on in his post after Fulop was elected.

?I resent that they closed our police academy and now we have to go to Paterson and get advice from them,? says Boggiano. The academy, he added, would bring in professionals from all over the country to provide similar types of training and novel approaches to policing. In fact, police department officers from all over the area, including New York City, would send their officers to the academy, which Boggiano said could be a source of revenue in addition to keeping the department?s tactics current.

The final cost analysis, however, is unclear. The Council is requesting more information about the reason for the academy?s closing and, if feasible, would consider formulating a committee to investigate bringing back a police training facility. Yet there are a number of new hurdles, including a lapse in certification and a lost lease on US Army property for the training facility, both of which would require time and money that may not be available.

Other plans include going back to crime mapping, a tactic utilized under Gajewski?s yearlong tenure as Police Chief, and moving the police department headquarters from a shared facility at 1 Journal Square Plaza to a dedicated facility. ?It?s an embarrassment,? said Boggiano, who maintained it was important to have the facility be a stand alone building.

Much of these restructuring plans are just in the initial stages, says city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill.

?The Police Chief spoke in detail at the Caucus meeting about the initial restructuring taking place within the department, which is being coordinated in close collaboration with the Mayor?s Office,? said Morrill. ?These changes, coupled with the pending appointment of a new public safety director and the hiring off additional officers, are some of the first steps being taken by the new administration to address long standing public safety issues.?



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Posted on: 2013/7/26 1:34
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Change is a good thing.

Posted on: 2013/7/26 1:33
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Re: Ridiculous fines...
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Oh yeah the leash cannot be more than six feet long.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 18:15
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Re: Ridiculous fines...
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? 108-8. Size of numbers; visibility; placement.permanent link to this piece of content

[Amended 11-10-1982 by Ord. No. MC-278]

Each numeral comprising an assigned or ordered building number shall measure not less than three inches in length and be of such width as to conform with the accepted standards of lettering so that the number is plainly visible to the public. Such building number shall be erected over the main entrance and over any rear entrances to the building or upon either side of the main and rear entrances, within two feet of the door frame; provided, however, that private dwellings may exhibit such building numbers on any steps leading to the main and rear entrances or porches connected therewith.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 18:09
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Re: Ridiculous fines...
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I've always wondered how the public would react to maximum enforcement with zero discretion.

Posted on: 2013/7/24 18:04
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Welcome to the forum Mr. bradleybeachbrawl. I for one appreciate good information and more importantly, information for the good of all.

Stay Safe


Thank you.

Posted on: 2013/5/24 2:46
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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They're not as afraid of Fulop as they are of who is widely speculated to be the front runner for Chief.
You can bank on that.


Officer BBB, you're killing us outsiders with suspense and anticipation! I hope you're not overselling it, hierarchical organizations are notoriously resistant to change. It's why everyone's always disappointed that a new president (or mayor) can't change everything with a wave of the hand.

Do you think there's real operational change in the wind, or just maybe getting rid of the usual nonsense: cronyism, low responsiveness, and inefficiency?


Trust me. There are major changes coming and I can't wait.
The last thing in the world I'd want to do is put something on a public forum and jeopardize this perfect storm.

There is nothing at all in this for me and I am not looking for any favors. I love doing what I do and at the risk of sounding pompous I'm good at what I do so not much will change for me. Maybe the scenery but the job will be the same.
For others things will be very different.

Posted on: 2013/5/24 0:48
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Jersey City Mayor-Elect Steve Fulop Calls in to the Jim Gearhart Show [AUDIO]

By Jim Gearhart ShowMay 23, 2013 8:27 AM

Of the 25 expected to call it quits in August, most notably are Police Chief Tom Comey and at least 2 deputy police chiefs, 5 captains, five sergeants, three detectives and nine officers.

Mayor-Elect Steve Fulop who unseated long-time mayor Jerramiah Healy, is faced with the undaunting task of making sense of all this. The current Jersey City Councilman has said that he will do a very detail-oriented audit prior to any payouts. Fulop takes office on July 1st.

Fulop said that some of the payouts will be in excess of $600,000. The average for these retirement packages is $200,000.

Fulop does believe there is a silver lining in this, in that if the current officers requesting retirement do not want to work any longer, then the town doesn?t want them to be there.


http://nj1015.com/jersey-city-mayor-e ... to-the-jim-gearhart-show/


at the risk of nitpicking, shouldn't that say "daunting task"? or is Fulop just THAT cool a customer?


They're not as afraid of Fulop as they are of who is widely speculated to be the front runner for Chief.
You can bank on that.

Posted on: 2013/5/23 22:44
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Politicians buying votes 35 years ago.


I guess this cuts to the whole vast sewer that is gov't labor union contracts. No matter how they try and frame it as ordinary collective bargaining, it's not, it's PR theater and political muscle flexing. GM isn't afraid of losing votes when it negotiates with UAW. I'm a pretty liberal guy, but I'm with Christie on this one.

I saw something recently about how much more dangerous sanitation was than law enforcement, yet every time there's a negotiation we're reminded of the PD's "self sacrifice" being worthy of big salaries, great bennies and early retirements. LE isn't even in the top 20 of dangerous professions.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j& ... g2=abkRcFamkyKgZYYIss-BpQ

Rank.com has LEO listed as #15. Above is link to FBI stats on assaults. Being a cop isn't exactly the safest thing in the world but it beats the hell out of being trapped in a cubicle.

Posted on: 2013/5/23 0:25
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Posted on: 2013/5/23 0:23
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Politicians buying votes 35 years ago.

Posted on: 2013/5/22 21:47
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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On a side note is the ordinance forbidding consorting with known Italians still on the books?

Posted on: 2013/5/22 20:13
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Residency requirement for appointed positions are included in Fulop's police plan.

Posted on: 2013/5/22 19:33
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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Excuse my mistakes when posting on this board as I am not familiar with the mechanics as far as replying to specific quotes etc.

@Brewster, I do not have any first hand knowledge of the Hoboken incident regarding the Chief so I cannot comment.

I do know that the Jersey City Police Department is in for a major overhaul from the top down. Whether or not personnel agree is irrelevant as Mayor Fulop's policing plan will be implemented beginning on July 1st. This is a fact.

There is no downside to any part of this plan. In the age of Laser surgery the current "leaders" believe leech therapy is working just fine. This philosophy is obsolete and decapitating the leadership is the only course of action followed by the installation of forward thinking commanders who will be held responsible for results. Decentralizing the command structure and allowing district commanders the freedom to improvise and adapt to specific problems can only have positive results.

A national search for a new Chief is unnecessary because we have the perfect man for the job right here in Jersey City. I choose not to mention any names as it would give the appearance of lobbying but I do believe Mayor Fulop will make the correct decision when appointing a new Chief.

This is a fact. There are cops and bosses who are absolutely terrified of what's just over the horizon and others who are chomping at the bit for true leadership.

Posted on: 2013/5/22 2:49
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Re: Chief Comey, other JCPD top brass planning to retire before Fulop takes the helm?
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The number of cops retiring is far greater than the 15 reported. The 15 are senior high ranking officers who are about to get bounced out of their comfy jobs. A large number of officers from the class of 88 will also be heading for the exits because things are about to change dramatically in the JCPD.
Comey and his top three deputies put their papers in last Wednesday effective June 1st. There will be no top echelon management after that date.
The reason behind getting out has nothing to do with getting fired. If these people remained on the job after Fulop takes over they will be at the mercy of the new administration. No more Monday through Friday 9-5. You will now work as a midnight patrol supervisor. Comey is only a Lieutenant which would mean he would simply get bounced to a district. The logic behind abandoning ship prior to July 1st. is strictly financial.
These guys are owed hundreds of thousands each in compensatory time and terminal leave. That is not an exaggeration. If they get out before 7/1 their payouts are guaranteed by the Healy administration. If they wait Fulop could make sure everything is on the level before opening up the checkbook. What would you do?
It should be noted that these extravagant payouts are not as common as Governor Christie would have you believe. The average patrol officer does not have the luxury of banking time like the privileged elite who spend their careers behind a desk.

Posted on: 2013/5/21 23:17
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