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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Your constant whining about how Fulop should Back Manzo is the Equivalent of manzo slapping Posters up all over downtown.


You're missing the point about the genius of Manzo posters and stickers. By putting them up all over town and never removing them, he's always ready for the next election and gets a jump on the competition. Foresight like that should qualify him to be mayor

Posted on: 2009/1/18 14:40
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Telecomreg wrote:
Fulop has to step up to the plate here. We have a reform slate (so far) under Manzo


OK, I got this far, and I have to take issue with the claim of "reform". Let me first say that (with the exception of Jimmy King), I will accept the premise that Manzo's slate consists of upstanding citizens. But here's the problem, and it's the exact same problem that many of the other council members have: 2 masters.

Jim Carroll is an active duty cop, who will take a leave of absence if he's elected. Is it plausible to believe that he will really be able to take a tough stand against the police when it comes to voting? Would he be able to vote against police contracts filled with goodies at taxpayer expense? Or will he abstain? How does that serve Ward D?

Lori Serrano is a school district accountant. One assumes that she won't be taking a leave of absence since city council doesn't pay a living wage. Is it plausible to believe that she will really be able to take a tough stand against the board of education when it comes to voting? Her case is even more problematic that Carroll's. And as a former Jersey City Housing Authority chair, Ms. Serrano is certainly no newcomer to JC politics.

As for Jimmy King, the very idea that he brings reform is ludicrous. Remember who he supported last time (while running as an independent for Ward C)? Surprise, it was Healy. Don't forget his time at the Parking Authority (http://www.talkingpolitics.net/JCPA.htm). From the site: "Early in Smith's term, several new commissioners were named to the JCPA. Those commissioners first suspended King, then initiated an investigation into activities allegedly involving JCPA spending, hiring a forensic accountant and an attorney. The investigation also probed allegations that King - who had the authority to hire and fire staff - handed out promotions to JCPA personnel who were members of his civic association."

Don't get me wrong - most of the sitting councimembers have similar situations. It just seems to me that calling this a reform slate just because the candidates, up until now, haven't held elected office, is a bit of a stretch. They're relatively fresh faces, but they seem to know their way around the block.

Posted on: 2009/1/18 0:49
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Yes, no doubt I do have an agenda. However my goal is good goverment, and good goverment includes good people, and Jim Carrol is one of those good people. As to your views that the city doesn't benefit by supplying its officers with incentives to continue their education, which they do on their "on their own time": These views are simply not consistant with the policies that exist in many major police departments across our nation, where educational opportunities are offered to their police officers as incentives to them to complete this training on their own time. So, you don't agree with me that a police officer having a law degree benefits the city, well I continue to disagree with you for reasons stated in my previous post. However, what really seems to bother you is that a police officer can make an extra buck by maybe doing a real estate closing. Quite frankly this would seem more like jealousy on your part than a reasoned response.

I am happy you agree with me that Robert Troy was a disasterous appointment by Mayor Healy. And yes, a well trained police officer in all aspects of the law can save the city millions of dollars in civil liability. I am not implying that , its a fact, just look at the money which untrained police officers across the country have cost their municipalities in legal fees and punitive damages etc...


Well, of course I'm jealous - who wouldn't be? But what bothers me, and what should bother anyone interested in less expensive government (which I assume qualifies as "good" government) is that my taxes are paying for more than just adequate police protection, but for expensive, unnecessary, and essentially self-serving education which does not benefit the city.

A sergeant on the beat, behind a desk, or supervising the radio room (and whatever else they do) simply has no need for a law degree. None whatsoever.

Sending cops for homeland security training - good.
Sending cops for forensics training - good.
Sending cops to learn foreign languages - good.

Paying for cops' career changes when they start to collect their pensions - not good. The fact that "everyone does it" doesn't make it right. And as our economy continues to tank, is it so unreasonable to ask someone to pay for their own education? Especially someone who makes over $100k/year? Really?

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=data

"...just look at the money which untrained police officers across the country have cost their municipalities in legal fees and punitive damages etc". This points to the need for better on-the-job training, not the need to equip every beat copy with a J.D.

Posted on: 2009/1/16 0:04
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Ross, yes you are correct when you say that Jersey City paid for Jim Carroll's law school.

Now I will tell you how Jim Carroll having a law degree benefits the taxpayers, which should be obvious to someone without an agenda. The City of Jersey City will pay for any police officer studying a criminal justice and law curriculum, this is contractual. Jim Carroll, a police sergeant has probably better than ten years to go before he retires. It certainly benefits the city to have its police superiors highly educated in the area of law, both from the perspectives of civil liability for the City as well as being highly trained in criminal law. Now, if Mayor Healy had recognized this, we would not have been burdened in the way we were with the appointment of Police Chief Robert Troy, who by the way has the city involved in FIVE very expensive law suits involving his improper actions. Count them again FIVE LAWSUITS.

Please stop throwing mud and inuendos at a guy like Jim Carroll just for the sake of throwing the mud. Think through what you are saying before you press the submit button.


Sammy, Sammy, Sammy

First and foremost - EVERYBODY (yourself included) has an agenda. Mine in this case is just to point out facts that may otherwise go unnoticed or unchallenged. Yours, apparently is to get Jim Carroll elected, and that's perfectly fine.

As for having attorney-cops, frankly, that's a stretch. Sure, police are supposed to understand the law, but they really don't need to go to law school (at what, $25-50k/year, and at taxpayer expense) to learn what they need. When was the last time you called 911 to negotiate a real estate closing? Seriously. So what if it's contractual? Is it right? Is it fair? My point is that the same system which allows multiple Gaughans on the payroll, will also allow Sgt. James Carroll, Esq. to collect a pension AND rake in attorney's fees.

Regarding Bobby Troy (a disastrous appointment, I agree), that's why the city has a law department, so please don't imply that having attorney-cops would have made any difference. The very idea is preposterous (x 5, count it 5 )

Posted on: 2009/1/15 23:14
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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So Carroll's a police sergeant, an attorney (more than likely on the city's nickel), is running for paid political office, and the Gaughan's are milking the system?


Carroll is a police officer who will have to take a leave of absence to be a councilmen.He does not have any legal work with the city nor county.
The gaughn family on the other hand have at least six jobs and three free cars with gas in the family.Big difference.


Just to clarify, the "city's nickel" refers to his law school being paid for by the city, similar to Bret's Chief of Staff Michael Cook. How it benefits the taxpayers to have a cop who's an attorney is beyond me. So, he'll have his police pension to go back to. Does he qualify for another pension if he becomes a councilman and serves 4 -8- 12 years?

Posted on: 2009/1/15 3:02
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Re: Schundler drops mayoral bid
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... a nice departure from the typical JC lefties and self interest types.


McCann was a closet republican and no JC mayor has really had the sort of social services budget to be a real "lefty".

But as far as "self interest types" you'd be hard pressed to find a bigger narcissist than Schundler. And why not, when you had Bill Buckley telling the world to watch for Bret's ascending to the presidency in 2008 (what happened?) it would be tough not to get an inflated (or rather more inflated) ego.

http://www.njfaq.com/bret2001/preex/buckley071999.shtml

Everything about his administration, from the charter school to support for vouchers to his battle with the ACLU was geared toward running for governor, and yes, president. Anything that benefitted Jersey City was coincidental.

Just look at his last pathetic grasp for attention when Fulop's pay-to-play stuff was in the news. I almost felt sorry for the guy.

Almost.

Posted on: 2009/1/15 2:52
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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I happen to know Jimmy Carroll. Jim is a lifelong Jersey City resident who lives in the heights with his family. Jim who is an attorney is very community spirited and involved with the schools, and he donates his proffesional services to the church. Jim is a police sergeant in Jersey City and a fine example of the youth and proffesionalism that should be reflected on the city council. this was a very very good pick for a very important council seat by Manzo.





Could't agree more on Jimmy Carroll.He is a real nice guy who has done a lot of great things in the heights.Sixteen years of Bill
Gaughan are more than enough.Streets are filthy up there and Gaughans whole family is on the payroll.I will defenitly Volunteer
some time to help Jimmy Carroll knock off Bill(four jobs)Gaughan.


So Carroll's a police sergeant, an attorney (more than likely on the city's nickel), is running for paid political office, and the Gaughan's are milking the system?

Posted on: 2009/1/15 1:04
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Re: Christ Hospital apparently threw out dead baby's body with trash
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I hope someone buys some baby dolls, removes their clothes and in a sign of protest, dumps one in all the internal trash bins at the hospital.

Another reason to sue for unnecessary suffering to the mother and family. Now-a-days money talks to force change and accountability!


great idea. you do that.

Posted on: 2009/1/9 1:06
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Re: Why is Schundler keeping low profile in Jersey City mayoral contest?
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Maybe he's planning a Giuliani strategy by waiting until the runoff election to enter the race.

Posted on: 2008/12/30 16:55
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Re: Healy sings on TV tomorrow - Listen here!
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I'd still like to know who is footing the bill to produce all these cd's and whether a kick-back is on the cards for some-one who might have sponsored this promotion.

please don't tell me that cityhall funded this self indulgence.

Go to city hall and ask to see the mayor then ask him for yourself. I for one like the Christmas card he sent me it has a beautiful picture of his family on the front.


That would require effort. Sniping is so much easier.

Back of card: "Not paid for by Taxpayer dollars. Paid for by Healy for Mayor 2009"

JJ: http://www.nj.com/jjournal/stories/in ... 29585199253600.xml&coll=3

"The CD was paid for by Healy for Mayor 2009"

Merry Xmas!!

Posted on: 2008/12/24 23:52
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Re: Liberty Science Center begs Jersey City for $2.5M - Fulop: 'Bailout' by city would set bad prece
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"Fourth, I've learned that Liberty Science Center employs over 100 Jersey City residents..."

Above is the only conceivable justification for this loan. LSC has always been an inferior attraction and Koster's "leadership" has made it worse. The exhibits are boring, the entrance fees excessive, and while the arrogance at not wanting to be part of JC has subsided over the years, it is still there. If it's not, then LSC needs to fire its public relations staff.

I would never point to "Destination Jersey City" as an achievement. More shallow rah-rah crap with ugly and ill-maintained signage.

Think how much that $2.5M could do if it went directly to the Boys and Girls Club, the United Way of Hudson County, and the Community Food Bank. Instead, a big chunk will go to line Koster's pockets and those of the rest of his management "team" - in short, those directly responsible for the mismanagement of LSC.

Fulop was right on this one.

Posted on: 2008/12/15 19:12
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Re: IMPORTANT: Vote NO to the 1st question
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League of Women Voters sez:

Reasons to Vote Yes:
● Supporters believe the framers of the Constitution envisioned public approval
for borrowing since the debt limitation clause was in the 1844 and 1947
Constitution.
●State authorities have been used increasingly for the purpose of bonding for
projects.
●Citizens need to constrain the Legislature from borrowing without voter
approval. The November 2007 State of New Jersey Debt Report places general
obligation debt (approved by voters) at 2.8 billion dollars. By contrast, the same
report puts debt subject to appropriation (State authority bonds) at 25.2 billion
dollars.

Reasons to Vote No:
●We have a representative form of government. It is the job of the Legislature,
elected by the people, to make funding decisions. Voters should not constrain
the Legislature which must weigh the need for public capital projects against
available resources.
●Passage is likely to make it more difficult to address regional capital or
infrastructure needs that will not have support of the entire state.
●Ballot questions cannot accurately present complicated appropriation issues to
voters for an effective government process.

http://www.lwvnj.org/VotersService/20 ... 04_Ballot%20Questions.pdf

Posted on: 2008/11/4 16:35
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Re: Dan Levin tosses hat in Jersey City mayoral ring
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Dan may be a good guy but he has no chance of winning or even being competitive... in the mayoral race or any council seat ..Ward E or At Large. I call on you Dan to reconsider your plan to run. Support Fulop for mayor and Skinner for council. They need you support Dan!!!


Has Fulop even annnounced officially yet? Isn't that why Skinner got in the race? I'm not so sure about his citywide strength. What if he decides to run for Ward E again - should Skinner drop out?

As for Dan, he's lived in JC longer than Fulop and has been a community activist for years. Don't know about Skinner - how long has she lived here? Also, she's a one issue candidate. Not that education isn't important, but it's a minor part of the city council's portfolio. Dan could probably be competitive in Ward E. I agree, his chances citywide are slim.

Posted on: 2008/8/22 21:38
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Re: Thank you for supporting a Better Jersey City
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Why was Schundler there.....hanging at the door, greating people as they entered like he had anything to do with the event. For 7/8 years he has not been active in Jersey City now he's trying to jump on the reformer bandwagon.
B. S. was a very aloof mayor whose main accomplishment was not getting arrested.


Maybe he was pulling a Hillary - hoping Fulop would help him retire his campaign debt

http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008807160467

Posted on: 2008/8/22 12:10
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Re: The American Spectator: A Second Act in Jersey City
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I'm one of those guys mentioned in the article who arrived in JC post-Schundler. Having been here now for 2+ years, I can say that I agree with a lot of the sentiment in this article, namely, that this place has come a long way, but perhaps not as far as it could or should have. Here's my question: is this Schundler guy another Bloomberg, like the article seems to suggest? Can he be trusted? Is this JC's man for mayor? Let's hear from some people who lived through the Schundler years.


somewhat hyperbolic and overheated at times, but much truth: http://www.stopbretschundler.com/

NYC/Giuliani were more responsible for JC's economic and building boom - bret was along for the ride. he and his council never met an abatement they didn't like (a continuation of cucci/mccann policies for sure, but bret was no maverick). As far as being a caricature, bret embraced the religious right with open arms. that much has not changed. fulop is the putative reformer now, bret is yesterday's man, a footnote in JC political history.

Posted on: 2008/7/29 22:04
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Re: Why Aren't More Shows Booked at Landmark Loew's Jersey Theatre? (The Magnetic Fields Appear 10/23)
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not air conditioned.

Posted on: 2008/7/21 13:29
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Re: Failure to Appear Notice
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The Parking Authority must have a ton of no show-patronage jobs to support, I wonder if there is any way to find out who is on the payroll.


See: http://www.jcparking.org/contact%20info.htm


Better yet, file an open public records request with the city clerk. Tell them you want the names, titles, and salaries of all parking authority employees. Then, follow them around and see what they do. Report back to us.

Posted on: 2008/7/19 16:32
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Re: Jersey City and Hiroshima (after the atomic bomb)
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Please don't get me wrong. I do like Jersey City, and that's why I've decided to move there. But I've wondered why so many empty lots have pile of rubbles that remind me of the pictures of the buildings destroyed by the atomic bomb in Hiroshima. I've taken many trips to JC prior to my decision, and it seems that nothing is being done to these empty lots. Why are things not happening in JC as much as they should?

Atsushi


They're atomic piles, the result of too many nuclear families living here.

Posted on: 2008/6/6 23:00
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Re: Jersey City Municipal Court sucks!!!
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The ticket numbers should be on your suspension notice. Actually, all you need is one - NJMCdirect will display all your outstanding tickets if you enter a single one. I know this from sad experience.

Posted on: 2008/5/2 20:59
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Re: Jersey City Municipal Court sucks!!!
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Don't confuse corruption with incompetence. You can pay all your tickets AND your restoration fee online without ever having to take the bus to Summit Ave.

http://njcourts.judiciary.state.nj.us/njmcdirect/atswepr2/home.do

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/About/restfee.htm

btw, the municipal court can't restore your driving privileges. You either have to do it online, or have someone drive you out to the service center in Wayne - - now THAT'S a nightmare.

Posted on: 2008/5/2 20:50
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Re: Former Assemblyman Lou Manzo ripped Jersey City yesterday about abatements
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Fulop voted against the abatement for the Beacon, where you claim to reside. This shouldn't come as a surprise since Fulop has consistently rejected abatements that are not needed.


So abatements for market rate projects in Paulus Hook ARE needed because, hell, no one wants to live there?

Posted on: 2008/3/29 20:10
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Re: New York Times: Ex-Jersey City Mayor Eyes Return to City Hall
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Bret was luckier than he was smart. Lucky enough to enter a special election with 19 other candidates. Lucky enough to be rich. Lucky enough to face Lou Manzo and Jerry Healy. Lucky that Bobby J preferred having a Republican Mayor of JC. Lucky to have Rudy Giuliani as Mayor of JC.

That kind of luck rarely repeats itself.

Lucky for us.

Posted on: 2008/3/25 1:52
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Re: Judge escapes scandal, lands city job
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oh yeah... whatever did happen to those judges? that's the problem, these scandals flare up and then noone pays attention to the aftermath -- there are no consequences once all the initial furor dies down.


From the article: "The state Attorney General's Office charged four of the judges with committing second-or third-degree crimes and they are awaiting their days in court."

Maybe there aren't enough judges

Posted on: 2008/3/15 23:26
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Re: New York Times: Ex-Jersey City Mayor Eyes Return to City Hall
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Schundler, 49, is doing the math again. 4 years in City Hall, then another run for governor, 4 years in Trenton, then the VP spot on Huckabee's "Gimme that old time religion" ticket. Then, the final move in 1600 Pennsylvania just in time to preside over the rapture. Nice work if you can get it.

Jersey City thrived under Schundler because NYC did - not because of any great management or leadership in City Hall. Just refer to http://www.stopbretschundler.com/ for more, albeit sometimes overwrought, details.

Posted on: 2008/3/15 13:52
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Re: Willie Flood hires son twice for $50G-plus ( Yes, that son )
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sadly, JCLaw's description of the city as a whole sounds about right to me - all we downtown yuppie scum have is the media.

(I would think the intersection of old-school Jersey City corruption and all the new development coming in would make a great vehicle for someone looking to make a name for themselves as a investigative reporter, but I haven't gotten anyone to bite just yet.)


You're watching too many movies if you think going to the media (which by all accounts ranks just BELOW politicians in the public's opinion) is going to solve the problems of corruption. Turning on the lights sends the roaches scurrying, but it doesn't get rid of them.

Besides, most of the practices people are complaining about here, like hiring relatives and dual-office holding, are currently LEGAL. So, they're not breaking the law, just acting less than ethically. But if you must tempt the media, try ethicist@nytimes.com.

On the other hand, anyone who has real (not "but of course they're crooked") evidence of wrongdoing by public officials (elected or otherwise) should contact the Hudson County Prosecutor or Chris Christie. Not the Jersey Journal.

Posted on: 2008/3/9 22:18
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Re: Healy's got alot to learn if he wants to win the election
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Except that Healy was photographed before the election and still managed to win with something like 75%. Looks like Mayor Madrid should call Mayor Healy.

Posted on: 2008/2/27 23:13
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Re: NJ School Kids Forced to Have FOUR New Immunizations
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"But really, really do your research before you inject formaldehyde, rat poison, mercury, aborted fetus tissue, monkey, feces, and other neurotoxins into your body... I had to beg for the ingredient list. Sure enough, they were on the list. I highlighted them, brought the pamphlet/list back, and have never been asked about them again. "

Peanut - please do us all the public service of posting a picture of the ingredient list showing "aborted fetus tisse, monkey, and feces". I'd really like to see that.

Posted on: 2008/2/16 18:43
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Re: Healy: City needs $8M state aid to ease the burden on taxpayers
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They left out that to get the 8 mil.we will have to be included in the distressed city program like trenton and camden.
So much for the world class city Healy is always crowing about.

Investers don't look kindly on distressed cities.


Just ask Bret Schundler about that: http://www.stopbretschundler.com/

He was the first to take America's Golden Door down that path.

Posted on: 2008/2/12 3:19
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Re: $1.5M makeover to begin at City Council Chambers
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A $1.5 million spend like this would be much more palatible if it didnt add directly to our individual property tax bills. At a time when JC has real trouble balancing it's budget, and with the debt crisis (no-one wants to buy Municipal bonds/debt anymore), all this means is that every dollar of JC overspend is likely to directly hit JC property owners pockets.

Mr Fulop - you work in the big bad world of Finance. Can you beat some sense into these council numbskulls?


Sorry, nug. Check the October 24 agenda - Fulop voted for the renovation. They all did.

Posted on: 2007/12/21 0:25
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Re: Embankment- Update Thread
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The advocacy groups you mention are biased lobbying organizations that each have their own specific agendas, none of which have anything to do with providing transportation alternatives, aiding economic growth, or facing the realities of Jersey City's expanding population.


Good God! Advocacy groups with agendas?!?! What next, voters with opinions? This is madness, sir. Thank you for opening our eyes.

Posted on: 2007/8/13 16:11
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