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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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You mean rumors of witnesses. Mostly spread by bigoted liars, and in some cases, nuts.


Completely ignoring the fact that the reporter verified the story himself by interviewing eyewitnesses and talking to the JCPD? That's right, that goes against your narrative.


He verified there were allegations, and not the actual content of them.

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The last thing I want to do is support Trump, but I have to admit that I do remember the news reports about Paterson.

They did show a video. It may have been canned footage, but I held onto this belief for 14 years. I saw it reported as Paterson, not Jersey City.

If it was something that was later found to be unfounded, then I'm glad the truth has come out, however, I understand why Trump said it.

This was always shocking to me that people would respond this way, and I distinctly remember listening to President Bush's plea to treat Muslim Americans fairly and thinking of the video of Paterson.

I'm wondering now if they're denying they ever broadcast it because it was completely based on rumor.


People believe what they want to. In a day and age when you can easily look up facts, listening to rumor is merely laziness, or in the case of some, an exercise of confirmation bias.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 23:10
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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You mean rumors of witnesses. Mostly spread by bigoted liars, and in some cases, nuts.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 22:41
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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No, that's what we have domestic white supremacists for.

Scientology is more of a scam and racketeering operation that threatens their own members.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:52
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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Not really. Not when a major p[arty candidate uses it as an excuse to tout bigotry, while making up incidents and support out of whole cloth, and many jump to the liar's defense with more lies.

And that shitty bog does not say what you say it does. It even backpedals while trying to claim cover for Trump, much like you asses.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:49
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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Trump says old news clip shows he's owed an apology over Jersey City 9/11 comments

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/ ... gy.html#incart_river_home



Those posters need to apologized to me for saying my friends and those that was born and raised and still live in Jersey City were eyewitnesses to those muslim men celebrating on top of roofs in Jersey City are liars!

Fulop need to retract his lie too. I saw him being interviewed yesterday saying Trump was a liar. LOL.

Got more news from Washington Post collaborating what my neighbors and friends told me...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive ... 281448290025183&tid=ss_fb


It's more likely they latched onto that unverified lie back then. I still don't believe you. Event the Post article never says those supposed rooftop celebrants were more than alleged.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:42
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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You cannot logically convince a person who holds irrational beliefs, nor people who spout nonsense with ulterior motives, such as supporting a candidate of their pet political party.

But at least you can educate the ignorant.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:40
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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What argument. Where is your support of the false flag nuttery. Extraordinary assertions require extraordinary evidence. Usage of logical fallacy terminology does not get rid of your original burden of proof. Until you come up with it, I am in my rights to brush it off as nuttery.

Try to keep up.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:34
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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As a liberal, I do not claim the conspiracy theorist loon. Crazy is cross-political. I know just as many lib-tards, conserve-tards and liber-tards that believe that tripe.

The support of a nut who thinks it was a false flag is not exactly the most rational support an argument can have. If a 9-11 Truther scum is what you need to feel warm at night, have fun.


Nice dodge. Try answering the question. You tried to create a parallel between the JC celebrations and a "small number of crazy white people."

So I'll repeat, was the behavior of this small number of crazy white people squarely in line with millions of other such people across the world?

http://www.usnews.com/news/religion/a ... ims-seem-to-celebrate-911


Not a dodge at all. It addressed both Trumps lie that you support, as well as showing that there are small numbers of hateful nuts in any community.

BTW, there are nutty white power 9-11 truther sites world wide too. Big f***ing deal.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:20
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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As a liberal, I do not claim the conspiracy theorist loon. Crazy is cross-political. I know just as many lib-tards, conserve-tards and liber-tards that believe that tripe.

The support of a nut who thinks it was a false flag is not exactly the most rational support an argument can have. If a 9-11 Truther scum is what you need to feel warm at night, have fun.


Textbook ignoramus reply. When nothing of substance can be argued, throw out the "conspiracy theorist" label. Did you know that the geocentric view of the earth as the center of the Universe wasn't debunked unto the mid 19th century. They called Galileo the same. Only he was also a "blasphemer" and a "heretic." Of course, as to 9/11 Commission Report, as stated in post number 2 of this thread, is itself a "conspiracy theory."


Self aggrandizing argument by assertion does not make you anything more than a nut. Go back on your meds. You may feel better.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:18
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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As a liberal, I do not claim the conspiracy theorist loon. Crazy is cross-political. I know just as many lib-tards, conserve-tards and liber-tards that believe that tripe.

The support of a nut who thinks it was a false flag is not exactly the most rational support an argument can have. If a 9-11 Truther scum is what you need to feel warm at night, have fun.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 21:05
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No, I don't.

But let us create an another shitty argument as a dodge to support a presidential candidate that tried to tar thousands of people with the behavior of an "alleged" few, not even any confirmations.

A small number of crazy white people believe that the Jews had advance knowledge of 9-11 and did not go to work at the WTC that day too. But that tiny number of f***ing assholes is not significant either.

Trump lied, and other scummy race baiters are rising to support him, tarring themselves in the process. It's nice to know who the scummy bigots are on here.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 20:37
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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The dispute has always been about he number, with bigots like you excusing him with this article about an alleged small number that was never confirmed.

He's lying, race baiting scum, and those that support him on pronouncements like this are in good company with him.


Posted on: 2015/11/23 20:24
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Even if you drive mostly highway miles, getting out to a real highway from Jersey City can involve a lot of start/stop driving and wear down pads quickly.

Given that, if the OP then lived with squealing brakes for a while, his rotors can easily be scored past recovery, and also have led to a damaged caliper as a result. Brakes are one thing that should be addressed immediately, as the expense of repair can go up very quickly, as well as them becoming very unsafe.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 20:23
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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I don't believe anything you say. I beleive these oldtimers who lived here more than you. YOu can say you anything you want. I don't believe anything you say. It's so obvious you are a sympathizers. I shouldn't be surprised there are lot of them living in Jersey City anyway. The authorities know where you all live.



LOL. You are really very funny.
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No kidding. If you want to hear some really racist shit, listen to a JC old timer one day. They are holdovers from Pre-PRA bigotry in many cases.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 20:02
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"Meh", as in the excuses people make for him are week and apologetic. That includes idiocy about being PC as a cover for being a bigot.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 19:58
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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Meh. Trump race baits, and openly supports racist behavior. Try not to feel bad about it.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 16:33
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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And then you have our resident crank excuse maker for bigots carrying water for him, lying in a plausibly deniable manner. I doubt Yvonne's friend even exists.


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There is also this little story about five guys horsing around on the waterfront that day. Five Jewish young guys, it turns out.

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2015/11/ ... -it-wasnt-cheering-arabs/

There will always be small pockets of assholes in any group. To tar a whole ethnicity with the shenanigans of a few, and to exaggerate that on top of it it do so, that is what makes Yvonne a terrible person.


Posted on: 2015/11/23 13:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5BtQgTGOI4

Are these people bigots or is it just people who question the safety of the country?


What does that have to do with your crank friends in 2001? That's a video from 2009 that has nothing to do with JC.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 1:32
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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Yvonne's supposed friends are also lying sacks of shit.

It much more likely that they remember it wrong. I'm sure their belief is genuine, but incorrect. Same with Trump.


I am not as charitable to cranks who pretend to have first hand knowledge of events to excuse and spread bigotry.

Posted on: 2015/11/23 0:17
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Re: Trump: 'Thousands' in Jersey City cheered on 9/11
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The Filth in JSQ around the mosque there were openly cheering in the streets.

As well as other spots in JC where vermin gather.

Sorry for the noobs 'who moved here to DTJC" and never saw what really goes on in JC.


Facts are Facts.


I lived in the JSQ area all my life, went to school at PS#11 and PS#25, and then Prep for HS. I have friends all over town.

Sorry, but you are full of it. I did not see any group of people celebrating that day.

Yvonne's supposed friends are also lying sacks of shit.

Posted on: 2015/11/22 23:00
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Re: Fulop and the ‘Fight for Fifteen’
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And yet they still have issues requiring large amounts of housing subsidies, price controls on drugs, and a new supplemental system for inadequate savings.

Posted on: 2015/11/11 23:40
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Re: Fulop and the ‘Fight for Fifteen’
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Looks like my mistake..

That is actually the monthly number..

But, it reflects much larger family sizes, as the monthly per worker total is under $2,400.

Posted on: 2015/11/11 23:28
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The Gini Coefficient for Singapore is terrible, and the standard of living is based on household income, not GDP, most of which goes to the very wealthy.

Which means the terrible income distribution is even worse.

I don't see how that is in any way admirable?

Posted on: 2015/11/11 23:27
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Re: Fulop and the ‘Fight for Fifteen’
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Singapore's income isn't low. They have a per capita nearly the same as the United States. Which isn't bad considering they were a rather poor South Asian backwater of the former British Empire about 50 years ago.

The median household income for Singapore, with at least one employed household member was $8,300 last year.

For the US, it was about $55,000 last year.

Calling bullshit on that.

Posted on: 2015/11/11 22:56
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Re: Fulop and the ‘Fight for Fifteen’
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Singapore has added the Silver Support Scheme to make up for insufficient savings and has raised taxes on the wealthier as well. They also give a deep five figure grant to subsidize home ownership, especially near other family members.

But that is neither here nor there. We do no need to aspire to be a place where workers are miserable and poor and is VERY authoritarian.

Posted on: 2015/11/11 22:49
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Re: Fulop and the ‘Fight for Fifteen’
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Singapore also has a very large welfare system to mask the issue with income being low. They have a subsidized national health service, give rebates for food, utilities and rent, and other big government benefits. At the same time though, there is more unrest over stagnant wages.

As for not answering the dumb question.. it's dumb, and a straw man at that.

Posted on: 2015/11/11 22:10
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Re: Fulop and the ‘Fight for Fifteen’
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Singapore's income distribution is shitty, and they have next to no worker rights. We should not aspire to living under shitty conditions because some people, somewhere else do so.

A minimum wage increase would result in next to no cost increase to consumers, and would lift millions of families out of poverty, as well ad allow them to provide for families without having multiple jobs, freeing some jobs for others as well.


Posted on: 2015/11/11 21:44
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Re: Fulop wants to change the election from May to November
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That would not change if the election date stayed in May. That's an indictment of the dumb lack of a primary, which could piggy back on the same day as the presidential primaries.

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You forgot to add..

"if I was a cop."

Posted on: 2015/10/30 17:47
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Re: Liberty State Park advocates fighting state bill, ballot measure they say will harm park
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A small Smorgasburg style food fair would be nice, with a smaller indoor version in the winter.

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