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Re: Advice to a 'soon to be' resident of downtown JC
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A few things off the top of my head. About the noise level. We live right on Hamilton Park and sometimes, I feel it is very noisy. Kids/adults screaming or speaking very loudly in the middle of the night, basketball it seems 24 hours a day. But, I have to add, that I lived in midtown Manhattan years ago and it was MUCH MUCH noisier in Manhattan. Plus, you mentioned that you won't be living directly on the park, so I think it will probably be a lot quieter out your window.

Things I like:
1. It is very charming here. It feels like I'm living in a neighborhood and not just in the middle of a development. 2. There are some community groups around here.
3. You really don't need a car to live here.
4. Diversity! Although this area is becoming more gentrified, it is still a lot more diverse than other areas.
5. Pretty good food in a relatively small area.
6. Close to the city, highways and airport.

Things I don't like:
1. Crooked politics that, I feel, impact the quality/quantity of services. Crappy public schools (for the most part), fairly poor sanitation, small library system given the size of the city, small police force given the size and demands of the city, hard to access public services (parks department, historical preservation department). I don't know how many politicians in the city and county have been indicted for various things, but it seems like too many.
2. A specific complaint that doesn't necessarily have to do with Jersey City alone (I think it applies to Hoboken too)...it's very, very difficult to find and hire various construction workers if you need work done.
3. Hard to find, what I think are, good medical services. There's an adequate emergency room in downtown JC, but I think it is nearly impossible to find good doctors for non-emergencies. All of my docs are outside of Hudson County (dentist, GP, ob/gyn, ENT).
4. In Hamilton Park there is a weird rivalry between a couple of the community groups (friends of hamilton park vs. HPNA). It is so bizarre. My understanding is that the HPNA tries to prevent the other group from making improvements in the park because the HPNA was "there first". End result, some things are hard to get done or don't get done, because of sabotaging and bickering. Really, really juvenile and obstructionist thinking. Haven't seen anything like it outside of middle school.
5. Lack of a dog run in HP when there is a clear need for one (I think politics gets in the way here).

Posted on: 2006/4/30 15:11
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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truth is the historic po--lice have almost no teeth no matter what you do. bark, bark...little bite.

Posted on: 2006/4/30 8:22
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Advice to a 'soon to be' resident of downtown JC
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Greetings to all fellow forum members!

I've been reading a lot of the postings in jclist.com for the past few weeks and decided to join the forum. We will hopefully become official residents on downtown Jersey City in June (we are purchasing a condo 3 blocks away from Hamilton Park, can't wait to move!!). We were not familiar with the downtown area of Jersey City until over a month ago, when we went for an 'Open House' tour with some friends. We really liked the area and were fortunate enough to find the kind of condo we were just looking for.
The forum has been a wonderful and colorful source of information to learn more about the community, resources, politics, and the idiosyncrasy of the residents. I look forward to participating in the forum discussions myself.

As a 'soon-to-be-resident' to the area I wanted to get a feel for what things you like the most about downtown Jersey City, and what things you like the least. What excites you about this place? What worries you? Just to get you started, we presently live in midtown Manhattan, in an area that is not really residential. It is very convenient to get to work (we walk everywhere pretty much) and get to see all kinds all people, any time of the day or night. However, the noise on the streets (like garbage and demolition trucks during the day and late night) is simply unbearable! The taxes are killing us, and forget about thinking of buying a condo here (and I can't stand the co-op philosophy on residential buildings). The city is just too busy and too noisy for us. We are longing for a more residential, quieter, charming place to live, where we can find a sense of community and stability... and, of course, with a convenient commute to NYC.

Anyway, feel free to share your thoughts, and any advice on how to prepare for our new 'home' city will be greatly welcome. Thanks so much in advance!!

Posted on: 2006/4/29 15:12
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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thanks to all for the input! i and the other 2 owners ARE the condo assoc., & i have their consent, so i'm going for it....woohoo...! ross e., i LOVE your reply - the comments re: reclaimed wood, homemade glue, historically accurate nails & tomatoes were hysterical - so......bourgeois! i love it. hopefully i'll have the boxes up in a few weeks, and to heck with the historical po-po. as if the derelicts hanging out on the corner of grove & wayne are historically accurate?!??! ahahahahaha....!

Posted on: 2006/4/29 7:08
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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First, build your window boxes out of reclaimed, historic barn planks
http://www.blacksfarmwood.com/07_12_03.html

Make sure they're held together with historic nails:
http://www.vandykes.com/product/02220266/
or better yet, microbrew your own glue from rendered animal carcasses (VERY historic)

and, of course, only heirloom tomatoes will do:
http://www.heirloomtomatoes.bizland.com/

Need manure? Visit City Hall

Posted on: 2006/4/29 1:58
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Re: **CELEBRITY SIGHTINGS IN JERSEY CITY ***
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nice, jimmy. Had me lmao, too.

Posted on: 2006/4/29 1:16
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Re: Green Roof?
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They are very popular in Chicago

Posted on: 2006/4/29 0:17
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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I live in Van Vorst on the 3rd floor and have had window boxes for three years. And no one else in the building ever had any.

Go for it

Posted on: 2006/4/28 23:30
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Re: Green Roof?
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Hey, I 'd love for Jersey City to be the "practice sprout" for New Jersey ...., I wonder if there is anyone around here who has one.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 19:27
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Quote:

The real hard core crowd like Cleo/Renuka/Harley is thoroughly pro Sonia and support everything newport, even Cafe Spice!!

what cracked me up, was that i actually posted that i loved living in newport! a ti-iny happy voice among the flying rotten eggs.. . all those complaints really got to me. there are so-o many more much worse places to live in an' around nyc !
and here i was living happily for years, completely unawares of all that froth on the boards and - w-a-am!
that was quite an irony .
but how do we get the freacking member numbers? is there someplace they have to tell? see, way i reason it - once everybody knows, how few people are members - it'll seriously deflate her baloon. besides, if they're just a 10% - there's no way they can claim to represent anything but a minority.
ps i loved cafe spice the first year - with $25 entrees. great goan curries. there were no indians in site . not many customers in general. now it's a diner and a desi social club with nothing much interesting to eat. pity!

Posted on: 2006/4/28 18:36
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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Forget about these historic busybodies.
If your own building's rules will allow you
to put out windowboxes, by all means do it.

Let the so-called historic maven and his cronies
better spend their time addressing the problem
of people doing things that are really inappropriate.

Good for you to want to plant flowers for all of us
to look at and enjoy.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 18:30
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Not too shy to talk


Quote:

Butchcjg wrote:
Sonia's recently post to explain why she banned me says that it's b/c "some people join this post merely to illecit responses and make allegations".


In her dictionary, that is everyone who has a different opinion.

PS Did you get my PM? I sent it to you on the other board, and then cc'd it to you on this one.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 18:14
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Not too shy to talk


Quote:

icricket wrote:
i don't care if she banned me. besides sc it was just an endless string of complaints about smth or other and quite pointless bashings of lefrak. like in any rental building people find problems, but it's all kinda political at the same time. i found it very distasteful. what bothers me, is that they claim to represent the community. most renters don't give a hoot anyway, and condo's are too few. of course, all condo owners will be members of their association and collective members of joint condo association. now THAT in my view will be a legit slice of community that is there to stay and really care - although at this point it will be only 2 buildings out of 9. that's why i want to know, how many members nwa has - with sonia at the helm, i will never join them, and i don't want her to speak for me either. however, she could be unelected, no? question is , who'll want to step in? but she definitely acts like a queen bee in permanent residence - off with this head, chop the hands of that one...


cricket. I thought banning you was the funniest. You have joined the board what like 5 days ago, and then you posted a link, and the once it was deleted, you simply question why that was deleted, and boom! you were gone. That was one of the worst times for Sonia with DeltaFox and wondering questioning about Shore Club and mariott and everything under the sun.

Anyway, the point that irks me is the same. That the board apparently stands for everyone in newport, though probably less 1% of the populations is a part really cares about it. The real hard core crowd like Cleo/Renuka/Harley is thoroughly pro Sonia and support everything newport, even Cafe Spice!!

Posted on: 2006/4/28 18:11
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Not too shy to talk


Sonia's recently post to explain why she banned me says that it's b/c "some people join this post merely to illecit responses and make allegations".

Oh yes, I joined wayyyy back in November and just sat quietly all this time and participated in conversations only so that 7 months later I could start making accusations. It was my plot!!!

Err, how annoying.

I dont live in Newport, but I lived in a Newport-owned building (The Roosevelt). Soon I'm moving, though, and thus won't pretend to represent that community nor have a need to be a part of it.

Any places to be a part of the Hamilton Park Neighborhood online, besides this place? I'm moving to an apartment directly on the park!

Posted on: 2006/4/28 18:04
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Re: Green Roof?
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From CNN.COM. Here is an excerpt:

Green roofs, first championed in Germany, have grown in popularity around the world, and experts predict more growth as the practice sprouts as far away as China. In North America, green roof space grew 70 percent last year.

"What you're going to see is a meteoric rise in this industry because it takes serious issues like storm water and offers multiple solutions," said Steven Peck, president of Green Roofs for Healthy Cities, a non-profit industry association.

The article is located here.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 17:51
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Quite a regular


i don't care if she banned me. besides sc it was just an endless string of complaints about smth or other and quite pointless bashings of lefrak. like in any rental building people find problems, but it's all kinda political at the same time. i found it very distasteful. what bothers me, is that they claim to represent the community. most renters don't give a hoot anyway, and condo's are too few. of course, all condo owners will be members of their association and collective members of joint condo association. now THAT in my view will be a legit slice of community that is there to stay and really care - although at this point it will be only 2 buildings out of 9. that's why i want to know, how many members nwa has - with sonia at the helm, i will never join them, and i don't want her to speak for me either. however, she could be unelected, no? question is , who'll want to step in? but she definitely acts like a queen bee in permanent residence - off with this head, chop the hands of that one...

Posted on: 2006/4/28 17:26
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Can you say soup nazi.This sonia is such a ego maniac.Banned for a week.Like anyone would care.Mr roggers is so happy since she banned me long ago.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 17:04
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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i also think that your posts were quite polite and certainly not deserved to be banned. i was banned from that board 'cause i helpfully mentioned the existence of kannekt during the intense shoreclub postings....- which turned out to be a deathly offense to sonia. it is not even in the rules - that you can't mention any other bbs's. and kannekt happens to be a very useful waterfront board, at that.
i am not a member of nwa, though i live in newport. what i want to know is how many people from newport are members vs how many people are living in newport. i do not think that nwa is representative of people living there and it is very misleading for them to claim that they represent the community. is there any way to find out, how many members they have ?
why should that be a secret? at least they should post it on their board, no?

Posted on: 2006/4/28 16:38
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Butchcjg, I've seen your posts on that site, and you're right. You've never antagonized anyone there. You should definitely keep screenshots going forward, once that one-week "ban" is removed. Frankly, that site is a joke, and is not representative of the people living there.

I recently had the *pleasure* of having my posts edited then deleted by Sonia. See screenshots below. I'm surprised she hasn't banned me from that site after that. I guess she's afraid I'll blog about it!

ORIGINAL POST
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EDITED POST
[IMG]http://tinyurl.com/my7yj[/IMG]
http://tinyurl.com/my7yj

HER RESPONSE TO ME AFTER I ASKED WHY SHE DELETED MY POST:
[IMG]http://tinyurl.com/p9qmx[/IMG]
http://tinyurl.com/p9qmx

Posted on: 2006/4/28 16:12
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Re: **CELEBRITY SIGHTINGS IN JERSEY CITY ***
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Just watch your purse!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/shandi1.html

Quote:

Jennifer wrote:
ooh! oooh! i wanna contribute to this list...! not that i watch this show (really), but i was on the path home from nyc, and my cousin (an overly proud hobokenite)spotted some finalist from america's next top model, and lo & behold, she got off @ grove - MY stop...her name is shandie, the one who cheated on her boyfriend when the models were off in italy. ha! take that, hoboken....sorry, harsimus, it'll just suck for another second. maybe change the title of this thread to "people sightings in JC"....


Hey papermagazine.com said she was a DJ now in NYC maybe she could spin somewhere here.

http://www.papermag.com/?section=article&parid=1003&page=2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shandi_Sullivan

Posted on: 2006/4/28 15:40

Edited by GrovePath on 2006/4/28 16:04:49
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Quote:

Butchcjg wrote:

This is exactly what she does!! She censors, but then says she doesn't and says the burden of proof is on you. (How can you prove someone is censoring if they remove the post and then ban you!?)





Take a screenshot of it next time you post it.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 15:26
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Re: **CELEBRITY SIGHTINGS IN JERSEY CITY ***
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This is a still from a clip of Kirk Cameron, former teen star turned evangelical, proselytizing on late night TV:

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I found the clip here:

Kirk

(May require registration to view)

Posted on: 2006/4/28 15:18
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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I checked with the Attorney Genera's Charity Registry and NWA filed their 2004 report with the AG and it showed:

Income:
$1610 - Direct Public Contributions

Expenses:
$305 - Program
$1322 - Management


Unless 2005 significantly changed, then they are a low-budget organization, so why not just disclose this information and start banning anyone who questions it?

Of course, I dont think "in-kind" contributions have to be recorded in this report and I saw some accusations of that.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 14:45
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Not too shy to talk


Sonia - I know you read this board, as do other posters, so I'll just respond to you here.

You DID remove my posts, when all I was doing was saying I just didnt understand why you don't show your association members the budget so that everything is transparent. What's wo wrong with that? I didnt say it in an inflammatory way, but rather suggested it was a way to to prove Fulop long and be transparent.

Then you started removing my posts, so then I posted saying "where's my post?" NOW you say the reason you removed me is b/c I was falsely accusing you of removing posts.

Talk about an abuse of power, Sonia. And, from what I've read here, it seems like this is how you work! Scary, scary. Why do you want to ban anyone who challenges you or Lefrak? What's there to hide? You say nothing, so why are you so defensive?

Posted on: 2006/4/28 14:37
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Not too shy to talk


So - I posted about the censorship there...

And she responded saying the reason she banned me "for one week" is because I posted a false accusation that she had removed my post, which was apparrently an attept to claim censorship.

That's SOOOOOO bogus! She *DID* remove my posts! TWO of them!!!!

This is exactly what she does!! She censors, but then says she doesn't and says the burden of proof is on you. (How can you prove someone is censoring if they remove the post and then ban you!?)


I'm getting irked...makes me feel like getting a bunch of us together with protest signs for the next NWA meeting!

Posted on: 2006/4/28 14:23
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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I have a question about the association.
Do they have a board? Do members pay a dues?

Posted on: 2006/4/28 12:07
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Re: Censorship on Newport Waterfront Association Boards
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Quote:

Butchcjg wrote:
Well, I agree not much goes on there....this board is definitely better.

But, just by principle, I can't stand being banned.

And, I plan to make it known how that board is run! If the board is run that way, then surely the organization is run that way too.

And, it really makes me wonder what she's hiding.


She's pretending to be a rep of the residents of Newport when she's really the developers webtool. In the past she had admitted that her rent is lower that what others are paying and I'll wouldn't be surprised if the major funding for her site is from the same source. She is never very critical of LeFrak.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 11:09
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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Quote:

Jennifer wrote:
Not sure where to direct this question - anyone know anything about whether or not I need permission from the Historic Police to put up window boxes on the 3rd floor if window boxes already exist on the 1st floor? Or worse, will they prevent me from doing so unless we also put them up on the 2nd floor for appearances sake (I only own the 3rd fl., & just want window boxes so I have something to look at)?

Just don't wanna spend the $$$ on the stuff only to have them yell at me. I'm in VVP, and I know that there are some things they can stop & some things they don't care about. Thanks!

Just do it. The historic police will have a hard time determining which tennants in your building did or didn't have windowboxes 100 years ago. If they come around, drop a flowerpot on their head.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 4:24
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Re: **CELEBRITY SIGHTINGS IN JERSEY CITY ***
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ooh! oooh! i wanna contribute to this list...! not that i watch this show (really), but i was on the path home from nyc, and my cousin (an overly proud hobokenite)spotted some finalist from america's next top model, and lo & behold, she got off @ grove - MY stop...her name is shandie, the one who cheated on her boyfriend when the models were off in italy. ha! take that, hoboken....sorry, harsimus, it'll just suck for another second. maybe change the title of this thread to "people sightings in JC"....

Posted on: 2006/4/28 3:38
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Re: Window Boxes & Historic Police
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Check with your condo association, and if no rules apply, then plant away.

Posted on: 2006/4/28 3:36
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