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How much do you want to bet that most of the jobs created by this warehouse will go to people from outside of Jersey City. Evertime there is a development you hear "job, jobs, jobs", but none of the jobs ever seem to go to Jersey Citizens, or too Jersey City companies. The construction companies from Jersey City get freezed out while the contract goes to some "connected" contractor from sussex county or somewhere, who buses in workers from out of the city.
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Since the authorities consider this a 'grey' area, common sense should apply.
My tip is so long as the motorbike isn't a Harley but a Vespa or scooter, parking on the footpath should be ok. Just kerb it for 2 reasons: 1. Allow enough room for strollers and wheel chairs to pass. 2. Blind people use the building line with their white cane to get around. (nothing worse then a blind person falling over the bike.) Also when parked against the kerb, leave enough room from the kerb so motorists don't knock it when they open their doors. These tips are geared for safe passage for everyone and to protect your investment. If it is deemed illegal to park on the footpath and you get a ticket - don't call me, I'll call you! curb = kerb (not sure which one is used in the U.S.)
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There already is a place called The Grove of Remembrance in Liberty State Park that has a tree for every New Jersey victim. It also has a large plaque with every NJ victim's name and I think it is very tasteful. We don't need ANOTHER memorial. What is the Grove of Remembrance then? Chopped liver? Perhaps more trees should be planted to account for every victim. But that's it.
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The entire neighborhood was most definitely historic, in the same way that any of our historic downtown neighborhood residential neighborhoods are historic.
In any such district, there will be buildings that, on their own, stand out as landmarks. Other buildings are contributing buildings that, on their own might not warrent designation, but should be protected as part of a greater whole. A single Italianate rowhouse might not be considered a national landmark. A neighborhood full of them is. The warehouse district represented the last remnants of the industrial age in Jersey City, and one of the few areas where you had this contiguity. Rather than re-hash everything, I will simply refer people to the excellent nomination of the district that had been prepared by Rick James, a former Conservancy board member. As for 111 it was not simply a contributing building but a pivotal building that could have been landmarked in its own right. Goldman's own historic consultant CONCEDED that the building had historic value. His only argument against granting it historic protection was that because of its deterioration, it's ability to project that history was "impaired." The translation of this into normal English is that because Goldman neglected the building and let it rot, that he should be allowed to take advantage of his own neglect, say it's "just a pile of bricks" and tear it down. The Conservancy vigorously and publicly opposed the settlement of this litigation, because by allowing New Gold to bully the city, they tore a building in the heart of the district down. It now makes it more difficult to designate the rest of the district as historic and protect these remaining landmarks. And as of now, there is no such designation. The redevelopment plan does require that other buildings be restored in a certain way. Without historic designation, however, there is no review by the Historic Preservation Commission. Essentially, the city is asking the planning board to oversee historic restoration. I have a great deal of respect for members of the planning board, but this just isn't their job and not their area of training (although there are a couple of very good members who know the area). Furthermore, in a historic district, there is consistent oversight when a property owner makes later restorations, renovations, or maintenance. That will not exist in the new "rehabilitation zone" called for in the plan. The Powerhouse still has its designation on the National Register of Historic places, and I doubt anyone would contest that it could be placed on the municipal register individually. There are also some buildings in the district that could receive individual designation (the Butler Brothers warehouse, for example). But there is no doubt that the settlement hurt not just 111 but the entire neighborhood. And there is no doubt that other developers like Toll Brothers will now be emboldened to demand the right to construct high rises in what could have been Jersey City's version of SoHo. We said that this would likely lead to a domino effect all along. But we must admit, we didn't think developers and city officials would have the chutzpah to prove us right so soon. Joshua Parkhurst President Jersey City Landmarks Conservancy
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The Powerhouse is no longer in danger of being torn down and there has been a developer designated to redevelopment it. Unfortunately, it will be boxed in by the "Trump" tower to the south and a potential 67 story tower behind it, where 111 First St. now stands
111 First Street is a historic building, with it the warehouse district met the standards for historic designation, without it, the district may not.
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The ordinance re-zoning this property for the warehouse remained tabled (since March) and the council approved a resolution that is the first step in creating a redevelopment plan in the area, to determine if the area is in need of redevelopment.
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check the DMV manuals-
Scooters over 50cc, require a motorcycle endorsement on your driver's license (motorcycle license) and motorcycle tags. These scooters can go on a highway or through tunnels, anywhere a motorcycle is permitted. Scooters less than 50cc (hence many 49cc), require only a drivers license (double check if a moped license works), but are not permtted on highways/tunnels etc. Quote:
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I'd agree that 111 First has no architectural merit. It's a pile of bricks. But the warehouse building opposite of it has architectural merit (in my opinion), and certainly the Powerhouse itself is an architectural gem.
If we allow the Powerhouse to be torn down (or stripped of its protected status), we're no better than the Taliban which shelled the giant Buddha statues into dust. I am actually serious about this parallel.
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The judge gave the city opportunity to correct technical and procedural issues and redesignate the historic district prior to the legal settlement. The city failed to act.
My quote referred to this article - Powerhouse designation threatened " Toll Brothers, for example, is preparing to file a site plan for a 40-story high-rise at the site of the Manischewitz building in the district, a project that would not happen if not for the settlement, several city officials said." When the city's corporate counsel presented the settlement terms to the city council in June, he denied that the settlment terms would cause a domino effect throughout the district. Now, before the city has even enacted the settlement terms, the "dominos" are begining to fall. Powerhouse Arts District - RIP Quote:
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That's great news.
I'd support saving a couple of buildings down there but to label the whole are historic was a bull**** move from the start (it was a tactic to battle goldman @ 111 first). To my mind a building need to be old AND have architectural merit to be worth preserving. Most of the buildngs in that district don't meet the test. The historic designation was pushed through by the anti-development lobby and it was unfair and could not be supported in court or in the council. Actually, building new towers by the powerhouse is probably the only chance to save it. The city will have some leverage to have developers donate towards it's rehab. Otherwise it will sit fallow like the embankment probably will for the next 20+ years.
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Does anyone know if the city tried to appeal the judge's ruling? If not, did the city give some reason? (Other than the actual likely reason of everyone being on the take.)
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Thursday, August 17, 2006 By JARRETT RENSHAW JOURNAL STAFF WRITER The Jersey City council yesterday officially stripped the historic designation from the Powerhouse Arts District and removed it from the oversight of the city's Historic Preservation Commission. The changes were included in the amendments to the Powerhouse Arts District Redevelopment plan approved yesterday by the City Council. The amendments passed by a 7-2 vote, with Councilman Steve Fulop and Councilwoman Viola Richardson opposing the changes. The changes are a result of the controversial 111 First St. settlement, which allowed New Gold Equities to bypass the district's historic protections and build high-rise residential buildings. "This is a domino effect that we feared," said Daniel Levin, president of Civics Jersey City, who argued that the lifting of the protections will lead to other developers building high-rises in the zone. The judge in the lengthy legal battle invalidated the Warehouse Historic District - which shielded the area's historic structures from wreckage - and forced the city to make the changes, said Jersey City Corporation Counsel Bill Matsikoudis. He also added that the changes do not impact the artist housing included in the plan.
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Take the money.
What absolute garbage to hear these corrupt politicians talk about pride.
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How many 9/11 memorials do we have now in JC?
I say we have an individual memorial for each and every person. A tree should be planted in the park for each victim. The 9/11 families have their own private memorial and the park gains much needed trees. Simple.
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Good question and suggestion! I've emailed the organizers of DJCW (how 'bout them consonant acronyms, huh, quite a mouthful) and asked that they send me either a link to download signs or send me the digital files as jpeg/PDF so I might upload them to my server and provide a link here. As soon as I get a reply I'll post here. 
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What you're thinking of is called zero based budgeting, which forces department to start from scratch instead of lumping more money on the amount they got last year.
Granted it will take a lot of political will to implement it and make sure everyone sticks to it. But somewhere along the line it has to be done. As for turning down $8 million in state money, well it's past the point of pride. Residential taxpayers are at wits end. I refer to the NY Times story of last week that showed property taxes grew many times the rate of taxpayer's salaries. Unfortunetely (except for Steve Fulop) most of the council never seems to have met an abatement it didn't want to grant and now we are paying for it. Quote:
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Jersey City is in distress.
18% property tax increase, increased crime, the feeling of impending doom and gloom in our future as tax abatements expire and we the people make up for that economic loss and an increased division of the economic strata of the city. Negatives articles about Jersey City in the papers should be combatted by getting to the root of the problems and fixing them, not dodging labels. Developers? Heh... They will build wherever they can get the biggest bang for their buck. It's not about the surrounding communites, they have invisible walls with the rest of Jersey City and have become cities within themselves. I like the idea that hiring and promotions would have to be justified by the city, I have always wondered about the number of patronage jobs we pay for through our tax dollars along with other spending. Reduce spending Tax abatements only for the areas that need it, not the overdeveloped waterfront Fight Crime What really reflects poorly on this city are the hardcore realities such as crime stats, not the truth, that Jersey City is in distress. FBI Uniform Crime Report Jersey City (scroll down) http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/2005preliminary/05table4.htm#gl Every crime, except for rape increased from 2004 to 2005. 2005 Violent crimes 3,136 Murder 38 Rape 43 Robbery 1,642 Agg. Assault 1,413 Property Crime 8,729 Burglary 2,216 Larceny/theft 4,658 MotorVeh. theft 1,855 Arson 73 Take the $8 million and fix this city!
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What 8 million from the state and all you have to do is be transparent and accountable on how this money is to be spent?
Hard decision for some politicians - with words like: transparent / accountable / justify / approval board I don't think JC's reputation could get any worse if this 'charity money' was accepted.
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I think that parking a bike inside your own front yard won't be a problem based on my experience. It only makes sense as the bike is on private property.
I suspect, but am not sure, that you can park a bike on the sidewalk if it isn't an obstruction to pedestrians. I see it all the time and kudos to the Parking Authority for not being a pain about this (unlike NYC). The alternative would be getting a $5 parking tag but subjecting your bike to being knocked over and 1/2 or so less parking space for cars (heaven forbid). One less source of conflict in this town is a good thing... Quote:
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Thanks for the posting, BrightMoment. Where can we pick up the "We Watch" sign for our apartment and maybe even the car?
Would be great if it was something that could be downloaded or e-mailed out -- I would love to send it to a bunch of friends to use as well. The more of those signs we get out there, the better the impact.
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I was a friend of Jon Schlissel, a neighbor and former president of the VVPA who perished in the attacks of 9/11.
I think the memorial and its location suck. So am I entitled to your deference now?
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Subject: DJCW Meeting Wrap-Up (phone list attached)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 13:38:11 -0400
From: Downtown Jersey City Watch <downtownjcwatch@gmail.com>
Dear Neighbors,
Attached to this email is a PDF list of useful Jersey City phone numbers.
(Here is link for jpeg until I have time to link PDF)
http://static.flickr.com/91/217060670_64ab9c5f84_o.jpg
Here is PDF link for JC Phone Numbers:
JC Phone Numbers
We encourage that you post this list in your home or building. Please feel free to share it.
Below are the notes from the DJCW meeting of Monday, August 14th. In addition to Prosecutor Edward DeFazio, Jersey City Chief of Police Thomas Comey and Captain Brian McDonough from the East District made some remarks and took questions from the group.
Edward DeFazio, Hudson County Prosecutor
? He and his colleagues deal with prosecuting for all of Hudson County
? They deal with 10,000 defendants a year. They secure 5,000 indictments a year.
? Ed lives downtown and understands the issues here.
? When asked about closed-circuit TV: feels that it is difficult to get good enough resolution to positively ID someone used for corroboration of an event. This is always the challenge. Videotapes from private residence are admissible, but can't be the only evidence. However, cameras themselves can be a deterrent to property crime in particular.
? Percentage of murders cleared by arrest (they arrested someone but the person has not necessarily been to trial yet or been convicted: 75%-80%. This is a very high percentage compared to cities like Washington D.C ., where the cleared by arrest statistic is closer to 50%.
? They seize cash, cars and real property from drug arrests. Most of this money goes right back into law enforcement costs. A small percentage goes to community activities that keep kids off the streets such as Boys and Girls Club.
? NJ has pretty tough gun control laws but trafficking is a problem.
? Many guns used in crimes here come from Pennsylvania, where the gun control laws are severely lacking.
? To work on this and other issues, a U.S. Marshals office is opening in Secaucus to cover the Hudson county area.
? He feels that our law enforcement and his office do a good job, but there is always room to improve, and they are working on that. He also feels that the police have begun to enact changes that will yield improvements in response volume and time.
? Feels that groups like the DJCW are crucial at dealing with some of the more intractable crime problems; that police and the courts cannot do it by themselves. Citizen involvement makes the difference!
? Recidivism: feels that this has some deeper societal causes, and that it is hard to control. Having said that, the laws around drug sentencing here are fair and comprehensive.
? Nuisance crimes (non-prosecutable) is the largest issue in the Downtown area, and that consistent cooperation between police, businesses and citizens can help improve the situation.
Police Chief Thomas J. Comey
? Eventually, police will be able to get direct video feeds right in their patrol cars from one of the over 65 surveillance cameras located throughout Jersey City. This will facilitate apprehension of crimes in progress.
? There was a delay in deploying the Curfew Van downtown, but that is happening by September.
? The Jersey City police responded to 23,500 calls in July. This is a significant increase and is an indicator of better police response times and interactions with the public.
? His goal is to continuously increase that response and deploy police most effectively. Compstat is actively being used and it is helping them assign police where the need is most urgent.
? The problem, as always, is limited resources. He pointed out that Newark Airport provides Newark with $40 million in revenue a year which helps to defray the costs for law enforcement. If Jersey City were to get all of the police it needs, he believes that it would increase our tax rate because of the prohibitive expense.
? So his goal is to keep increasing efficiency. For example, for crimes that are nuisance crimes or not life-threatening, the PD will not necessarily deploy a patrol car, but a bike officer instead. The patrol car can then be deployed for urgent crimes.
Captain Brian McDonough
? Car theft/burglary is still the main crime in downtown. He emphasized the need for citizens to minimize crimes of opportunity by:
---------------Not leaving valuables visible in your car
---------------When possible, parking in a well-lighted area away from trees
? Recently the PD made a few arrests for assaults and some juveniles were brought in for questioning. Their parents were called in to get them; after that, certain types of assaults stopped. His point was that sometimes, one group or person could be generating a lot of the activity in a given area. If that person or group is apprehended, it can have a big positive impact.
? Emphasized to please call in incidents and nuisance crimes; they do read all emails, and all calls are logged.
? Call response times depend on the demand on the police and the urgency of the crime at any given time. They work very hard to respond as quickly as possible, when possible.
? Compared to last year, violent crimes in JC are down significantly.
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The DJCW distributed "We Watch" cards to put in windows, the new phone list and general DJCW information. They also discussed community engagement efforts driven by the JCPD to create weekly channels of interaction and information-sharing about crime-related issues throughout the city. The DJCW actively participates and shares information on incidents and complaints with representatives throughout JC.
SPECIAL THANKS TO OUR GUEST SPEAKERS AND ALL THE VOLUNTEERS WHO SUPPORTED NATIONAL NIGHT OUT!
See you next month.
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There are several NJ Transit buses that cross the GWB. They all stop at the GWB bus terminal.
Having buses go through the Holland Tunnel would be a traffic nightmare right now. There would need to be a major overhaul of the traffic patterns and idealy another tunnel. The bus lane works at the Lincoln Tunnel because there are 6 lanes in 3 tunnels and a dedicated two mile lane for the busses to go filter into the Port Auhority bus terminal. Building a bus shelter outside the Holland Tunnel requires a location next to a subway stop. Having it at the new Fulton Station would work if there is again a desginated lane for buses only. Having only 4 lanes at the Holland Tunnel would leave one car lane depending on the morning or afternoon rush hour. All the outbound car traffic fitting into one lane is insane at rush hour with all the traffic lights leading up to the Holland Tunnel on both sides. People do no respect the red lights now and block the box causing delays.
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While I agree that these jitney buses are dangerous, polluting, and borderline legal, they are a vital service at this point. NJTransit's offerings are horrendous, and I recently found out that they routinely take buses from one line out of commission to fill in on other lines when needed. Buses really don't show up sometimes.
Especially with the recent muggings, these jitneys provide a service for folks just needing to go through the downtown area, not to mention us JC Heighters (I know, it's a downtown list, shame on us, but I did live downtown for years.) Show me a good plan to implement changes without taking them off the streets. Even with 1/2 of them running, it still is a huge improvement over NJTransit. Gotta agree with alb on some of this...there are plenty of other much more serious health concerns, not the least of which is all the construction on toxic landfills in downtown.
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Did anyone attend the meeting? What happened?
"The council may consider the zoning changes during tomorrow's Council meeting, or they may keep it tabled as the city conducts the redevelopment study. The meeting is scheduled for 10 a.m. at the Mary McLeod Bethune Center, 140 Martin Luther King Drive. "
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 I would have the buses load and drop off at the World Trade Center Transportation Hub and Fulton Street Transit Center. It is a bus terminal, you can build one very cheap and quickly. Basically a glorified parking lot. It would help lower manhattan revitalize. Lots of people in suburban new jersey live close to bus stops, so it would be very convienent for them to take a one seat bus ride direct to lower manhattan without having to transfer to the PATH or Ferry, which adds another fare and 15-30 minutes onto commute. It would relieve the overcrowding on the PATH train, and take cars off our roads - all those people who drive to PATH stations from far essex and middlesex counties could take one seat bus ride to lower manhattan. Plus, the bus terminal would connect to ferry, PATH, and subway, and take NYC transit buses as well as NJ transit buses, so you could transfer to NJ transit buses from NYC transit buses, and vice-versa Quote:
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LSP Public Meeting on
Skyline-blocking 9/11 Memorial Design This design separates instead of connects us to where the tragedy occurred. Wednesday August 16 6:30 pm to dark Organized and hosted, with respect and dignity, by The Friends of LSP Park Users? Participation is Urgently Needed It is not too late if the public comes tonight and/or writes the Governor. Mayor Healy and Assemblyman Manzo are against this design that blocks sacred views of Ground Zero, lower Manhattan and the Hudson River. People power is needed tonight. Three letters to Jersey Journal today at http://www.nj.com/opinion/jjournal/letters/ Location of the Public Meeting: The chairs will be in the ?North Field? near the CRRNJ Terminal in LSP?s NE corner, next to the parking lot at end of Zapp Drive, the cobblestone road, and next to the Memorial Hill which blocks skyline, Ground Zero, & river views. The design includes the Hill, that will be 10 ft high and two stainless steel walls, 200 ft long and 30 ft high, next to historic Terminal. All people who care about LSP are urged to attend this important meeting. Transcripts of public comments will be sent to Trenton. The Friends had asked and patiently waited for NJDEP Commissioner Jackson and Governor Corzine to hold a public meeting, but they haven?t, so we?re holding this approved public meeting so people can express their opinions and learn about this memorial. Please attend to speak and/or hear fellow park users. This controversial 9/11 Memorial ?Hill and Walls? design blocks sacred and important NYC skyline/river views. The design was undemocratically approved with no public input. It isn?t too late for the Governor to terminate this obstruction of the ?national shrine? of the NYC/river view, and to revise this design or have a DEP public meeting on the 8 finalists chosen by the ?expert jury?. Background Material : www.folsp.org click on 9/11 Memorial Sam Pesin, president The Friends of LSP
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I think NJ transit should use the holland tunnel as well, a bus line running through the holland tunnel would give people in the heights, union city, and other areas a one seat bus ride to manhattan. It is crazy that NJ transit only uses the lincoln tunnel.
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