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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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tern wrote:
The letter came accross as bitter and resentful. As someone else said earlier, it's supringsing a senior figure would put his name to such an embarassing diatribe.


It does seem as if people like Healy, Lipski and Troy act as if they're paid to show that Fulop is the only honest, intelligent politician Jersey City.

Posted on: 2007/3/11 7:15
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Re: Lincoln Park home plan is altered, but not enough for neighbors
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garage-on-bottom pink-brick monstrosities


I can understand why people want to build cheap new two-families.

What I don't understand is why the city planning department doesn't go find an architect and come up with an alternative design/siding combo that would be just as cheap but look a lot better.

Whenever a builder came in and wanted to build the hideous version, the city could hand the builders the less ugly design and offer some kind of incentive (10 parking tickets free? 50 percent off on payoffs to various public officials?) if they use the pretty design.

Example: even if the builders used the exact same design but with white "brick" instead of pink "brick" that would help some.

If the builders totally gave up on trying to make a "brick rowhouse" and went for a really contemporary, glass-with-corrugated-steel kind of look, that would probably help even more.

Posted on: 2007/3/11 7:06
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Re: Trusty Mechanic?
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Althea wrote:
I really like Rich at SUmmit Auto up on Pavonia Ave. This auto mechanic is at the corner of Pavonia and Chestnut, a block away from Dickinson HS, just up the hill on Newark, west of the Turnpike over pass.

Althea


I should add that he always goes out of his way to work with my schedule and has even parked my car back in my driveway, but I am only three blocks from him.

He also gives me a wide variety of advice, such as knowing when and what time of extended warranties to buy, etc., etc. I just can't say enough about how much I trust this mechanic.

Posted on: 2007/3/11 5:18
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Re: Lincoln Park home plan is altered, but not enough for neighbors
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I am not sure that Maplewood would have the architectural standards you are looking for. They have plenty of vinyl clad houses with vinyl clad windows. The only thing they have going for them is a Whole Foods. Whoopee.
I also wish that those GOBPBM's were outlawed, but I guess I am willing to stick around long enough to see it happen.

Posted on: 2007/3/11 3:57
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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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The letter came accross as bitter and resentful. As someone else said earlier, it's supringsing a senior figure would put his name to such an embarassing diatribe.

Robin.

Posted on: 2007/3/11 3:27
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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Binky wrote:

Actually, I think you're quoting Grovepath. As stated earlier in the thread, that wasn't the JJ title. No mention of "pot shots" in the article.
You didn't read it, I guess - just quoted it.


Oh. Glad you're there to correct me, BINKY!


OOps. Gotta correct the correction. My mistake in thinking the JJ wouldn't print so blanant an opinion as if it were a fact. You were quoting the Journal after all. I was wrong to think otherwise. Sorry Bryhove.

Posted on: 2007/3/11 3:17
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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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donut eaters anonymous meeting musta' been cancelled

Posted on: 2007/3/11 0:40

Edited by kro on 2007/3/11 1:03:14
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Re: The Great Jersey City SOUP SWAP '07
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Just cooked up a batch of Green Curry Chicken Soup.

It's yummy.

Want some? I'll give it to you... a week from tomorrow!

Posted on: 2007/3/11 0:26
Thank you for making The Great Jersey City SOUP SWAP an annual success! See you in January 2013 for the next Soup Swap!
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Re: New group being started: Jersey City Families for Better Schools
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DON'T YOU SHAKE THOSE THINGS AT ME!

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Nasty cold for a week or possible asthma for life. They should be sued!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 23:59
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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It is if you are not on the "team" and it's grandstanding to take on a legitimate issue, but not if you are wasting money on ridiculous gun ordinances and walking a woman into court to sue a tiny, non-profit animal rescue organization just to protect the really person at fault, one of your own.

Do i sound bitter?

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bdlaw wrote:
Interesting.

So legitimate criticism of public figures is now "potshots".

OK.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 23:54
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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GP, i apologize for any misunderstanding, but I do not see the second part in the JJ article, online. Perhaps it was only in the print addition, but I did not remember seeing it there. Did i miss something? Probably...

This is why I was suprised that the second part of the byline was added. It seems very nasty. Wow, I really have a hard time with the JJ.

GP i am really grateful for you posting the news.

Althea

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GrovePath wrote:
Althea

As I have said before -- I like Fulop! The title was just taken from the first sentence of the Journal -- did you read the article? The tone is not my bias.

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"A neighborhood meeting about crime in the Jersey City Heights took on a pointedly political tone, with residents and one elected official taking shots at Mayor Jerramiah Healy..."

Posted on: 2007/3/10 23:50
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Re: Trusty Mechanic?
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I really like Rich at SUmmit Auto up on Pavonia Ave. This auto mechanic is at the corner of Pavonia and Chestnut, a block away from Dickinson HS, just up the hill on Newark, west of the Turnpike over pass.

Althea

Posted on: 2007/3/10 23:42
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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GrovePath wrote:
Althea

As I have said before -- I like Fulop! The title was just taken from the first sentence of the Journal -- did you read the article? The tone is not my bias.


I think the editorial page of the Journal (including the local columns; I'm not sure whether they're really "editorial page" or "op ed") seems to be very anti-Fulop and was also anti-Glenn Cunningham. It's hilarious to see Earl Morgan pretend as if he ever had a drop of respect for Cunningham.

What's sad about that is that the Newhouses (the people who own the company that owns the Journal) are members of a great family who probably would love to see Jersey City become a clean, prosperous, well-educated, newspaper-reading community. When the editorial page of the Journal sides with the corrupt people and the sticks-in-the-mud, maybe they're helping the ad people sell one more display ad to Del Forno today, but they're advancing the date when the Journal will become a weekly supplement to the Star-Ledger. If, on the other hand, the Jersey Journal really courted downtown residents, and helped us understand where we live and what we can do to make this city a better, stronger, happier place to live for all of its residents, and it really supported reform efforts, then Jersey City would be by far the strongest economic force in the state, and the Jersey Journal would have a much stronger position in the Advance Publications family.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 23:27
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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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brewster wrote:
If by successfully getting a major bill passed by "playing ball" old school style: no.


I saw Fulop speak to a community group recently, and I was really impressed by what to me seemed to be his fairly impressive, detailed understanding of how the game is played in Jersey City. He's not running into trouble because he's an innocent who thinks that everyone around him is full of sweetness and light, and he seems to have very specific, plausible ideas about what buttons community groups have to press to get things done.

Fulop's attitude seemed to be that the best way to deal with corrupt politicians is not to deal with them, and instead to get new people in.

My naive, nonpolitical instinct would be to try to figure out if even really awful, corrupt politicians have some goals in common with the rest of us.

Example: LeFrak and Goldman may not want to pay for Jersey City to fight crime or improve its schools, but I'm sure they'd like Jersey City to fight crime and improve its schools. If the corrupt politicians here are puppets of LeFrak, Goldman, etc., is there some way to cut out the middleman and go to LeFrak and Goldman and the other puppetmasters and cut a deal that would help Jersey City without hurting the puppetmasters?

But maybe Fulop is avoiding that approach because anyone who tries to dicker with the puppetmasters ends up becoming one of marionettes.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 23:13
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Re: Lincoln Park home plan is altered, but not enough for neighbors
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Those "garage-on-bottom pink-brick monstrosities" are so fugly, I can't stand it! I wish those GOBPBMs were outlawed! It breaks my heart that the city can't see the rich history and the benefit to trying to hold on to the unique character of the neighborhoods of JC. Because of this lack of historical preservation, I know this city is not for me. When I make enough money to move to Millburn/Maplewood, I will - even with the taxes. Sorry JC - you have so much potential!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 22:30
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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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loucheNJ wrote:
Despite his adopting a tone that a third grader would be embarrassed to sign his name to, Troy's accusation that Fulop has accomplished nothing is, in my opinion, pretty close to accurate.


Depends on how you define accomplishment. If by successfully getting a major bill passed by "playing ball" old school style: no. If by shining a bright light on the slime, corruption, and self interest that pervades our gov't and showing not everyone is as jaded as our officeholders and that it doesn't HAVE to be the way it's been, I'd say yes.

Is he perfect and the third coming (after Obama), no. But he's the only JC politician I've met who hasn't depressed me, and my wife believes he got upper Coles repaved in response to her emails, that's an accomplishment.

Machine cogs like Troy hating Fulop is like roaches hating light, it shows them for what they are.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 21:59
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Re: Downtown Jersey City Watch-Updates Thread
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Hello all!

Just a reminder that our next meeting with the Police will be on Monday, March 12th at 7pm at Grace Van Vorst Church, located on Erie Street and 2nd Street. Please enter through the red doors on 2nd Street.

We will have a guest speaker, Oren Dabney of the Jersey City Incinerator Authority.

Also, in our efforts to unite more members with each other according to area, this month will focus Bright Street Area.

On March 15th will be the JCPD Community Policing Consortium. If you are interested in attending to meet with the JCPD and other Jersey City Area residents concerned about crime, please reply to this email.

We have signs translated in Spanish that I would like to share at the JCPD Community Policing Consortium. Can anyone make colored copies for me? Please reply to this email.

Thanks!
Pam

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This email was brought to you by the Downtown Jersey City Watch (downtownjcwatch@gmail.com). "We watch out for each other."

Please send in any information about suspicious events or crimes to this address.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 21:27
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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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loucheNJ wrote:
Check out the letter in March 11th JC Reporter from Robert Troy (retired chief, JCPD) concerning Fulop.


Being the 10th today, does the JC Reporter have horse racing results for the 11th too!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 21:11
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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This does it for Healy, you can now run Hitler or Stalin against him and either one will garner more voes than Healy. Way to go Jerry! Keep going to those ball games and continue to neglect the city. Who the heck is your advisor? He should be fired. The words Nero, Fiddle, Rome, Burn, mean anything to you?

Posted on: 2007/3/10 20:22
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Re: Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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Not in Fulop's defense so much as in criticism of Bobby Troy- don't forget the old saying about "he who is without sin."

Posted on: 2007/3/10 18:29
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Robert Troy's letter re: Stevie Fulop
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Check out the letter in March 11th JC Reporter from Robert Troy (retired chief, JCPD) concerning Fulop. Sorry, it is not on line yet.

Despite his adopting a tone that a third grader would be embarrassed to sign his name to, Troy's accusation that Fulop has accomplished nothing is, in my opinion, pretty close to accurate.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 18:28
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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You have to give Chief 'fat-ass' Comey credit - he does go to a number of community meetings, but I don't understand why Mayor 'fat-ass' Healy doesn't give Chief fat-ass money to spead on recruiting and training.

Chief fat-ass makes it quite clear he needs more officers - siht, I'd be happy with bdlaw running around out there.

Hey Mayor fat-ass, don't be a siht-head and hand over some money!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 18:15
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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Quote:

Binky wrote:

Actually, I think you're quoting Grovepath. As stated earlier in the thread, that wasn't the JJ title. No mention of "pot shots" in the article.
You didn't read it, I guess - just quoted it.


Oh. Glad you're there to correct me, BINKY!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 18:00
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Re: EPPS: ANOTHER TURN RUNNING SCHOOLS? -- Epps has set his sights on another term as superintendent.
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What about deducting 50% of his pay for 2 days each week?

Posted on: 2007/3/10 18:00
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Re: New group being started: Jersey City Families for Better Schools
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Nasty cold for a week or possible asthma for life. They should be sued!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 17:38
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Re: NO MERCY - Gets the max - 25 years - for shooting cops in Communipaw Avenue station
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NO MERCY - Gets the max - 25 years - for shooting cops in station

Saturday, March 10, 2007
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Before the sentencing yesterday, Harley's mother, Denise Brown, asked the judge for leniency, I'd like you to know, regardless of what other people say, my son is a good person and he was raised beautifully," Brown told the court.



Some good tips for the Councilperson-at-large to say to the Judge about her son, who got caught with drugs!

Posted on: 2007/3/10 17:33
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Re: New group being started: Jersey City Families for Better Schools
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This was the article about children's medicines - see below.
Thank-you for the post about 'Avent' Althea. I like how the English newspapers forgot to include 'Avent' on that list I saw. (Avent is made in England)

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Cocktail of additives found in child medicines

Dan Bell
Saturday March 10, 2007
The Guardian

Children's medicines contain a cocktail of additives which are banned in food and drink aimed at under-threes, says a report out today from the Food Commission.
Dyes, preservatives, and sweeteners were found in cough syrups, paracetamol tablets and teething gels. One product contained eight E numbers.

The campaign group looked at 41 medicines for children under three. Only one, Superdrug children's dry cough syrup, was totally free of colourings and preservatives. Some of the additives can lead to asthma or act as mild laxatives, and most are banned from food and drink for under-threes, even though they are allowed in medicines aimed at young children.

Across the medicines analysed, there were four synthetic colourings or azo dyes, 10 preservatives, and six sweeteners. Some 31 out of 41 products contained preservatives, the most common being benzoates - E numbers E210 to E219; reactions can include skin rashes or wheezing. Only some of the medicines displayed warnings of additives' possible side effects.
Buttercup infant cough syrup had two E number dyes, while Calpol paracetamol, Anbesol teething gel, Sudafed children's syrup, and Superdrug children's chesty cough syrup, contained one azo dye apiece. Tixylix night cough syrup, sold for children over one year old, contained both benzoate and sulphite preservatives. Some medicines contained sweeteners sorbitol, maltitol and xylitol, which can have a laxative effect in high doses.

A Food Commission spokesman, Ian Tokelove, said additives were usually listed in the fine print inside the product packs. "If you are a concerned parent, you are often not going to know what is in medicine until you get it home."

The commission is lobbying the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency to ensure child medicines are additive-free. The agency said drug manufacturers were required to justify any additives before getting a licence to market a product; some needed preservatives to maintain their shelf-life.

"Many also have a very unpleasant taste, and require sweeteners and other flavours to help ensure palatability, especially for children," it said. "Some people, including children, have to take multiple medicines and easy identification by colour and other means helps ensure they take the right medicine at the right time."

The report said natural colourings were an alternative to synthetic azo dyes.

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Posted on: 2007/3/10 17:11
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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Hey - I'm just quoting the papers.


Actually, I think you're quoting Grovepath. As stated earlier in the thread, that wasn't the JJ title. No mention of "pot shots" in the article.
You didn't read it, I guess - just quoted it.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 16:09
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Re: Heights residents call foul on absent Healy -- Fulop shows up and "takes shots" at Mayor.
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bdlaw wrote:
Interesting.

So legitimate criticism of public figures is now "potshots".

OK.


Hey - I'm just quoting the papers.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 15:26
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NO MERCY - Gets the max - 25 years - for shooting cops in Communipaw Avenue station
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NO MERCY - Gets the max - 25 years - for shooting cops in station

Saturday, March 10, 2007
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

A judge yesterday threw the book at the man who shot two cops after smuggling a gun into a Jersey City police station in 2005, sentencing him to 25 years in prison with no chance of parole until 2028.

"The message to you and others is there will be no break given to anyone who commits a crime like this," said state Superior Court Judge Kevin Callahan, sitting in Jersey City.

Corey Harley, 28, pleaded guilty to two counts of attempted murder in October for shooting Officer Patrick Kirwin and Sgt. Tim Harmon in the Communipaw Avenue station on June 15, 2005. He also pleaded guilty to two counts of aggravated assault and one count of possession of a gun by a felon.

Yesterday's sentence includes prison terms for an unrelated drug dealing offense and a firearms offense that were pending against Harley at the time of the shooting. He still faces a federal charge that involves a gun, said Hudson County Assistant Prosecutor Stephanie Davis Elston. Harley was in prison from June 15, 2001 to Dec. 30, 2003 for aggravated assault and a weapons offense.

Because of his record, Harley faced an extended sentence of 20 to 25 years.

"The only question is, is it better to protect the people of this city for 20 years or 25 years," Harmon said in addressing the court.

He said he has trouble talking about the shooting, but after the hearing he said: "I've never been in a situation like that - total chaos."

On the night of the shooting, Harley's girlfriend and her three children were at the police station getting a restraining order against him. Two officers found Harley at her home and brought him to the police station - somehow missing the fact that he had a gun.

Kirwin was shot in the back, but his bulletproof vest stopped the bullet; Harmon was struck in the belly, but the bullet hit no vital organs as it passed through his body. Both are back on duty.

Before the sentencing yesterday, Harley's mother, Denise Brown, asked the judge for leniency, saying Harley has been shot more than 30 times during his life and still has eight bullets in him.

"I'd like you to know, regardless of what other people say, my son is a good person and he was raised beautifully," Brown told the court.

Harley apologized to everyone, even the judge, and said the officers were very nice to him just before he opened fire. He said the whole thing was a misunderstanding that "could have been prevented."

Callahan said the shooting was a crime against the officers, the people they are sworn to protect, and the entire system.

Posted on: 2007/3/10 15:24
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