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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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Of course, the sad thing about this thread is that a couple of people think that persons making $50k or less DESERVE to live in an area that they can't afford. Why?...why do they deserve it?



They deserve it because we live in a democracy. If you'll read the original article posted, you might notice that affordable housing is mandated by the state of NJ. The unwashed middle classes you shun seem to have collectivized and, in the best socially-Darwinian sense, legislated their claim. If you don't want to live next door to them, I suggest you move -- someplace where your intolerant ideology has a bit more teeth.

Posted on: 2006/7/30 9:29
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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I agree with the fact that lefties suck!!! Listen, you can't save the world. Its very simple. If you cannot afford to live here, MOVE.

That is why they have the great ol' Midwest. For people who cannot afford the ritzy east coast lifestyle...


Appropriate name, now shove it where the sun don't shine, Mr. "...ritzy east coast lifestyle..."

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I love being antagonistic...I clearly got the best of you my friend!!!

Seriously though. My point is that there are clearly people who "CAN" afford to live in parts of JC, Manhattan, and Hobokan. Than there are people who "WANT" to live there, knowing they are paying more to live there, but choose to due to the demographics of the area.

My point is, there is NO control over this. Honestly, what are you or I really going to do beside BITCH on jclist.com about it. Nothing. Go make up a #OOPS#ed up saying and call me an ass. Still doesn't change the economics of this area.

Does it suck for some? Yes, will things most likely change? Probably not.

Posted on: 2006/7/30 9:00
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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Oooooh...he's put little animated dinosaurs on it..coool!

Well I'd definitely want to live next to you...you're probably a captain of freakin' industry, aren't you?

It appears that the only "bright moment" that you had was missing the abortion bucket. Get back to making your hammer and sickle, you hubcap-stealing neanderthal.

Of course, the sad thing about this thread is that a couple of people think that persons making $50k or less DESERVE to live in an area that they can't afford. Why?...why do they deserve it?

There's 14 square miles of Jersey City for teachers, firemen and other "nice" but pathetically underpaid idiots to live in. MOVE THERE and gentrify it. Let the natural equilibrium of economics continue unhindered, without trying to cheat.

"WHAAAA!.....IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE!.......WHAAAA!" get a squeegee and hit the off ramps, you Bolshevik rabble.

Posted on: 2006/7/30 4:21
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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Midwest? I was thinking more of Russia - I think they still back your politics out there.

Personally, I'd have reservations about puting my kids infront of your (hypothetical), lefty-pauper-teachers....I mean, If they can't pay their rent - what exactly are they teaching our kids for?

Of course - they could always take the train, and live somewhere that was economically viable...DUH!


"Trubrit" huh? Definitely not Too Bright are you, as your moronic rants show you're the only wanker with your misread Darwinian faux-economics.

I'm sure most Homeland Brits would consider you an embarassment to their public school system, typical of the ex pat tosspots foraging in the financial waste of our chromium boneyard pits.
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Posted on: 2006/7/30 1:42
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I agree with the fact that lefties suck!!! Listen, you can't save the world. Its very simple. If you cannot afford to live here, MOVE.

That is why they have the great ol' Midwest. For people who cannot afford the ritzy east coast lifestyle...


Appropriate name, now shove it where the sun don't shine, Mr. "...ritzy east coast lifestyle..."

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Posted on: 2006/7/30 0:52
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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Racial diversity is bliss, but enforced economic diversity is hell! Especially when people like you think cheap housing should be handed out to every welfare-grubbing loser. Read that book by Darwin - you might learn a thing or two.


Oh really? I do wonder which book by Darwin you mean. I've read a few of them, and I don't remember there being anything in them about economics. I must not have read "that book" that you read.

Posted on: 2006/7/30 0:39
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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Affordable housing should not mean housing for people who are making $30,000 and have 2 kids, but for single people who ARE NOT making in the six figures and don't have $100,000 to put down on a one bedroom condo.

The median income (household income) in Jersey City is $42,000. At todays rents & prices, there are very few available apartments in Jersey City that someone making $40,000 - $50,000 can qualify for let alone afford.

Yes, only $42,000 a year. And most are hard working and not the ghetto folks most are so afraid of from the projects.

Of course if you read the NY Times & NY Magazine, you would think that everyone is a single white collar corporate professional under 35 making $250,000 a year and that if they make less or in the five figures than they don't deserve to live anywhere in this region.

Lets not even discuss buying since that is out of the question given Prices + Property Taxes + HOA fees.

First thing should be to extend the Earned Income Tax Credit to single individuals making less than $75,000 a year.

Posted on: 2006/7/30 0:00
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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Midwest? I was thinking more of Russia - I think they still back your politics out there.

Personally, I'd have reservations about puting my kids infront of your (hypothetical), lefty-pauper-teachers....I mean, If they can't pay their rent - what exactly are they teaching our kids for?

Of course - they could always take the train, and live somewhere that was economically viable...DUH!

Posted on: 2006/7/29 21:13
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memorial
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What about a memorial for the troops that have died in Afghanistan and Iraqi - and are still being killed today?
What about a memorial for the troops that died in Dessert Storm.
I understand that this is close to home, but isn't there a memorial for 9/11 located between the ferry terminal and Exchange Place (PATH) already or is Cityhall more interested in making the proposed memorial a tourist attraction?

It's a 'touchy subject' but JC could spend the money on its infrastructure and social issues - hang on, where is the money coming from - if someone is giving it to Cityhall as a donation then build the thing, but I heard JC was close to being pennyless.


I believe the memorial at Exchange Place is a city memorial. Liberty State Park is a state park and the memorial is a memorial for the 700 or so people from all over the state who died that day.

The funding I believe is a combination of state funds and private donations

Posted on: 2006/7/29 20:41
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memorial
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What about a memorial for the troops that have died in Afghanistan and Iraqi - and are still being killed today?
What about a memorial for the troops that died in Dessert Storm.
I understand that this is close to home, but isn't there a memorial for 9/11 located between the ferry terminal and Exchange Place (PATH) already or is Cityhall more interested in making the proposed memorial a tourist attraction?

It's a 'touchy subject' but JC could spend the money on its infrastructure and social issues - hang on, where is the money coming from - if someone is giving it to Cityhall as a donation then build the thing, but I heard JC was close to being pennyless.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 20:25
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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The self importance of the 9/11 victim's families and the political clout they wield is staggering, and to me, unwelcome.

Enough already.


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Posted on: 2006/7/29 19:43
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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There are serious consequences to not having "affordable" housing in a modern urban city. They're not talking about building housing projects next to your brownstone. How are you going to have a community if your firemen and teachers can't afford to live here?

The day I find myself surrounded by only elitist snobs like a couple of the posters on this thread is the day I'll gladly move to the Midwest as well.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 19:10
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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I agree with the fact that lefties suck!!! Listen, you can't save the world. Its very simple. If you cannot afford to live here, MOVE.

That is why they have the great ol' Midwest. For people who cannot afford the ritzy east coast lifestyle...

Posted on: 2006/7/29 18:43
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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I sincerely hope that there is NOT sufficient affordable housing in Downtown Jersey City.

You lefties don't get it do you? Half of the complaints on this web site pertain to low income scumbags, ruining the peace and habitability of 07302.

If you want cheap rent - move to Newark you commie bastard! I've worked hard for my brownstone and I don't want some tosser living next door.

Racial diversity is bliss, but enforced economic diversity is hell! Especially when people like you think cheap housing should be handed out to every welfare-grubbing loser. Read that book by Darwin - you might learn a thing or two.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 17:41
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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fasteddie wrote: But I don't get it, what does a giant crooked vagina have to do with 9/11?


Is the Freedom Tower a phallic symbol?

Posted on: 2006/7/29 12:43
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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i think the best memorial to the families that lost loved ones would be to create a shining, good natured city across the river from ground zero that is free of crime, litter and corruption.

on that note - healy needs a bigger broom.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 12:35
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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Notice how no one who actually will be seeing this thing regularly supports it? "The Families" will visit it once a year for a while, then move on. But we'll be saddled with it forever. The howling about removing "tilted Arc" would be nothing compared to getting rid of this once it was in place. At least Tilted Arc was at ground level, not on a pedestal.

injcsince81: thanks for answering the question hanging from the "projects" thread about where you emigrated from. Yes, Americans aren't equiped to deal with the realities of the Siege of Stalingrad, or the tens of millions of civilians the USSR lost in that war. Our idea of civilian sacrifice then was rationing of meat and sugar, now it's to keep shopping.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 12:19
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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I was born in a city that lost 2,000 people EVERY DAY FOR 120 DAYS during 3 months of WWII.

That's 120 times more people that died on 9/11 for a city 1/10th size of NYC. They endured their 9/11 every day for 120 days.

Do they have memorials? Sure - some very moving bronze statues, some modest plaques on the streets where people were mass-murdered...

Nobody ever forgot these 3 months. The heroes (true heroes, children who attacked Nazi tanks with grenades, not accidental 9/11 office worker victims) live in the memories of the people, and in the consciousness of the new generations.

$1 billion for a WTC memorial in NYC? Please. This money can be better spent elsewhere.

Ugly, huge, invasive 9/11 memorials everywhere else? Please. Totally tasteless, and totally missing the point.

The self importance of the 9/11 victim's families and the political clout they wield is staggering, and to me, unwelcome.

Enough already.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 11:41
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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Here's my two cents:

There is no need for any "memorial" of any kind,
neither nice nor nasty.

There is not a chance that anyone will forget
September 11th; therefore we need no
physical reminders or mementos mori.

Such things are generally in embarrassingly poor taste,
and they tend to make people more angry and ashamed than reflective.

Skip the whole thing, and spend the money on
feeding the hungry and medically treating the sick.


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Posted on: 2006/7/29 11:13
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Re: New face of public housing - 72 homes in the Lafayette section of Jersey City
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Quick but off topic question for Roaring: Will you be voting for Kinky Friedman? Is he perceived as a serious contender by the locals?


I'm honestly not sure who I'm voting for but it's definitely not Gov. Perry. Kinky is seen as a quasi-serious contender. He fought hard to get on the ballot as an independent and got the required signatures to get on it after he was challenged by both parties.

I'm not so sure he's serious about it. If I thought that he were serious I would consider him more carefully. Frankly none of the candidates here (even dems) represent my liberal views.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 10:57
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Re: New face of public housing - 72 homes in the Lafayette section of Jersey City
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Also by the way, I've moved to TX less than a year ago from Jersey City where I lived for 12 years and owned a home on Bentley Avenue for the past 6 years. During my time in JC, I helped found the West Bergen/Lincon Park Neighbourhood Coalition (held office of VP for several years), was a board member of Monticello Community Development Corp (chaired the Promotions committee which held several successful fundraisers under my stead) and was on the Steering committee for Bergen Communities United (elected position not appointed).
I am also a minority (gay, Jewish) and was partnered with another minority for the past 9 years (gay, Black). I know better than most about racism and surely know far better about homophobia and anti-Semitism. I am even now more of a minority (liberal gay Jew living in the heart of conservative Baptist Red State) so there is my "southern track record".

Quick but off topic question for Roaring: Will you be voting for Kinky Friedman? Is he perceived as a serious contender by the locals?

Posted on: 2006/7/29 10:52
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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Here's my two cents:

There is no need for any "memorial" of any kind,
neither nice nor nasty.

There is not a chance that anyone will forget
September 11th; therefore we need no
physical reminders or mementos mori.

Such things are generally in embarrassingly poor taste,
and they tend to make people more angry and ashamed than reflective.

Skip the whole thing, and spend the money on
feeding the hungry and medically treating the sick.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 10:36
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Re: New face of public housing - 72 homes in the Lafayette section of Jersey City
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Ok, so I assume your answer is. "Zero." Thanks.


You asked a rhetorical question and expected an answer?


Wow - JPhurst - you won.

You caught me. Congratulations.

I cannot back up my statement about 15 kids and 15, equally absent, fathers, at Lafayette Gardens.

But you know what, I said it in a manner of speaking, not literally, and everybody on this board except you understood it.

You understood it, too, actually, but chose to make an asinine point, instead of addressing an obvious, and a huge, issue of a lack of family structure among the public housing recipients, which greatly contributes to the utter failure of such programs in the eyes of those who pay for them.

Us.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 10:26
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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memoria
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But I don't get it, what does a giant crooked vagina have to do with 9/11?

Posted on: 2006/7/29 10:18
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Re: New face of public housing - 72 homes in the Lafayette section of Jersey City
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Ok, so I assume your answer is. "Zero." Thanks.


You asked a rhetorical question and expected an answer?

Posted on: 2006/7/29 9:28
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Re: Is there enough affordable housing?
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One way of providing more affordable housing is to use means criteria for the city's remaining rent controlled units. Landlords who balk at renting to tenants in need of low rent housing should then have their properties assessed as if the units were decontrolled.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 8:05
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Majestic II "the sequel" and the Columbus Corner (58 & 88 units plus Retail) - Will miss Waterbug!
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Majestic II - the sequel
Planning Board approves two projects downtown

Ricardo Kaulessar
Reporter staff writer 07/28/2006

COLUMBUS CORNER — This building on the corner of Christopher Columbus Drive and Wayne Street is sitting on the future site of Columbus Corner.

The developers who recently turned historic Majestic Theater into condominiums are planning a followup of sorts.

The original Majestic Theater, on the corner of Montgomery and Grove streets, is a six-story, 45-unit complex completed in 2004.

Developers Eric and Paul Silverman now have a larger project planned for the same block.

The Jersey City Planning Board at its Tuesday meeting approved unanimously the Majestic II Redevelopment Project, a two-building, 88-unit development that will encompass Montgomery, Grove and York Streets.

There will also be 96 parking spaces and 8,880 sq. ft. of retail. The Majestic II will be overlooking City Hall.

Currently on the block are an empty storefront (formerly a deli and a carpet store), a church that closed recently, and several apartment buildings with empty lots beside them.

Neighbors cautiously optimistic

Following a presentation by an architect and engineer, several area residents praised Silverman but urged him to do monitoring of the area when construction starts, to test the stability of the area. They also encouraged them to acquire empty lots on York Street for the project.

Silverman said he would work to ensure the monitoring and to acquire the lots.

The board, in approving the project, also praised the proposed construction. New board member Phillip Matsikoudis remarked that the "Silvermans do grade A work."

Board member Michael Sottolano said he looked forward to the project getting under way as it would be wonderful addition to the area, and will force city officials to get started on renovating City Hall.

Silverman after the presentation said that he was "happy, very happy." He also said that the groundbreaking will take place in the next six months, with the project taking a year and a half to complete.

The Silvermans are also currently renovating the old St. Francis Hospital near Hamilton Park into 225 condos and retail.

Columbus Corner



The Planning Board also approved on Tuesday a project known as Columbus Corner that will be built at the corner of Christopher Columbus Drive and Wayne Street as a part of Barrow Street.

The project will consist of one building with three sections: one seven stories, one 4.5 stories, and another at three stories.

There will be a total of 58 residential units with 45 parking spaces and 4,925 sq. ft. of retail.

The developers are Five Star Investments Inc., a development firm based in Jersey City whose principals are employees of the Del Forno Real Estate firm.

The project is named for the Columbus Corner Redevelopment Area it is located within. It is also partially located within the Van Vorst Historic District.

James Lindemon, the architect for the project, made the presentation in front of the board.

Planning Board member Leon Yost asked if there would be green space built into the project for tenants to have access to. Lindemon said the plans could be amended to allow for a "green roof."

Board member Sottolano complained that the different facades of the building did not blend in each other and considered the transition "too harsh."

The board placed seven conditions for the developer to meet before construction begins, including providing green space and communicating with the Planning Board and Historic Preservation Commission regarding the project.

After the presentation, Lawrence Perlaki of Five Star Investments, when interviewed, said that he was happy see the project get started after four years of delays.

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New Planning Board members

There are two new members of the Planning Board, both of whom started their tenure at the previous Planning Board meeting on July 11. The two are Philip Matsikoudis and David Ruiz Jr.

Matsikoudis is a former Jersey City police officer who currently works as an attorney. He is the brother of the Jersey City Corporation Counsel Bill Matsikoudis.

Matsikoudis' term on the board expires on June 30, 2010. He is replacing former member Robert Lopez.

Ruiz is currently an employee of the Hudson County Improvement Authority. He was picked to serve as an alternate member of the board, replacing Roseanna Petruzelli, who served in that capacity but has been promoted to a full-time member, replacing longtime board member Jeni Branum.

Ruiz's term expires on Dec. 31 of this year. Petruzelli's term expires on June 30, 2010 while - RK

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Re: Mayor Healy and many Jersey City residents speak out against the design for the new 9/11 memorial
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Liberty State Park will host public hearing on placement of 30-foot design


Ricardo Kaulessar
Reporter staff writer 07/28/2006

The state will hold a public hearing on Aug. 16 so residents can comment on the prospect of a 30-foot high 9/11 memorial in Liberty State Park in Jersey City.

This past spring, the Friends of Liberty State Park (FOLSP), a volunteer organization dedicated to the park's preservation, requested a public hearing on the state memorial, to be erected at the northern end of the park.

Last week, the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection, which oversees state parks, notified FOLSP President Sam Pesin that the group could hold a public hearing on Aug. 16 in the park at 6:30 p.m. near the memorial site.

In case of rain, the meeting will be held in the CRRNJ train terminal a few hundred feet from the memorial site.

The memorial, titled "Empty Sky," will be made up of two 30-foot high and 200-foot long stainless steel walls perched on a 10-foot high grassy knoll. A jury chose it out of 320 entries submitted in 2004 as part of the New Jersey Memorial Design Competition, which former Gov. James McGreevey initiated.

Wants more choices

New York City architect Frederic Schwartz designed the memorial, and its construction cost $10.5 million.

The memorial has met with opposition because the 10-foot high knoll portion blocks the Manhattan skyline.

"It's a sacred view of downtown New York City, especially in light of what happened on Sept. 11," said Pesin, pointing out that the park was a center to medically treat those who were injured in the terrorist attacks at the World Trade Center.

Pesin said the lack of public input in choosing the memorial will be addressed at the meeting.

"We think a resolution could be found by the state revising the design or convincing state officials to revisit the eight final designs that were narrowed from the 320 submissions," said Pesin. "Then out of those eight, the public can choose two or three that would then be given to the victims' families for a final choice."

The public have their say



Pesin intends to invite Gov. Jon Corzine (who lives in Hoboken), DEP Commissioner Lisa Jackson, and other state officials to the public meeting. He also will invite representatives for the families of 9/11 victims.

"The families want this built as soon as possible but we hope they are patient," said Pesin. "There should not be a rush, there should be a consensus."

Pesin also remarked on the progress the public has made in this issue.

"At the end of February and March, when we started to contact state officials, they never showed any intention to hold a meeting," said Pesin. "I think they are now open to getting more public input."

Tanya Chauhan was among the members who wrote to the state asking them to hold a hearing.

Chauhan lives with her husband and daughter a few blocks from Liberty State Park. In an April 27 e-mail to the state, Chauhan mentioned that she was a "Jersey City resident, a 9/11 survivor, and a frequent user of Liberty State Park" who was "greatly disturbed at the plan for a hill in the front of the park."

She added, "First the Twin Towers were taken away, and now the great view of downtown New York is being taken away."

Politicians ask, but state backs it



Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy and State Assemblyman Louis Manzo (D-31st Dist.) also sent letters to Corzine addressing the need for a public meeting. As a result of the uproar over the lack of public input, Manzo drafted legislation to ensure that there will always be public meetings on any changes to a state park.

DEP Commissioner Lisa Jackson e-mailed a letter to Pesin on Thursday reiterating her support for the memorial to continue being built as planned.

Jackson stated that "Based on my review of the process and the project design, I have decided to support the completion of the memorial as presently designed."

Jackson pointed out that the day after the June 13 meeting, there was another meeting with a memorial committee of 9/11 survivors and families of victims to review the design, discuss the current status of construction, and gauge if family members willing to accept changes to the design.

She states in the letter, "It was the consensus of those family members present that this project should move forward as designed and that they did not want to delay this Memorial to their loved ones and the many victims of September 11, 2001 any longer."

Pesin took Jackson to task for making her decision before the public meeting takes place.

"The Friends formally disagrees with the commissioner's position is now asking the governor directly to listen to public input and reverse this decision," said Pesin. "Lisa Jackson's premature decision violates the spirit of democracy."

For more information on the meeting and about the memorial controversy, check www.folsp.org or call (201) 792-1993.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 6:56
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Is there enough affordable housing? Jersey City conducts survey to see if they meet state requirements


Ricardo Kaulessar
Reporter staff writer 07/28/2006

AFFORDABLE HOUSING – Some of the affordable Grant/Myrtle homes on 123-125 Myrtle Ave. that Jersey City Episcopal Community Development Corporation is currently building.
How many affordable housing units are there in Jersey City?

City officials are building a database to gauge the amount, which is part of an effort to determine how many new units need be built to meet the new state affordable housing requirements.

The Council on Affordable Housing (COAH), a state organization that sets guidelines for municipalities to meet their affordable housing obligations, stated that affordable rental housing in New Jersey should not cost more than 28 percent of a person's income.

COAH is now requiring municipalities to provide one affordable housing unit for every eight market-rate units built and for every 25 jobs created. Previously, municipalities were assigned a specific number of affordable housing units to be built within their borders.

Currently, Jersey City requires developers of market-rate housing to contribute $1,500 per unit to the city's affordable housing trust fund. Then, the city can build more affordable housing.

Doug Greenfeld, supervising planner for the Jersey City Department of Housing, Economic Development and Commerce, is heading up a team of city officials who are conducting the count of affordable housing units in the city.

Greenfeld said it's going to be a large task.

"Because we have had so much development in Jersey City, the work to compile all information needed is greater than expected," he said.

Checking and more checking

Greenfeld said garnering the information requires viewing lists of affordable housing projects already constructed and those in the pre-construction phase, and cross checking them to come up with an accurate number.

Greenfeld said that having a count would let the city receive credit against their future affordable housing obligation.

Greenfeld and other officials need to put together a "housing element," a part of the city's master plan that looks at the amount of affordable housing needed between 1987 and 2014.

Among the information required is a projection of future construction and future jobs and employment trends from Jan. 1, 2004 to Jan. 1, 2014.

Also, the city has to put together a "fair share plan," a detailed proposal of the means it will employ to provide more affordable housing.

Meeting the need



Jersey City is one of 287 municipalities in New Jersey that is certified by COAH to provide affordable housing without being subject to litigation from developers, known as "builders remedy lawsuits," to exclude that housing from their projects.

A projection done last year by the North Jersey Transportation Planning Authority (NJTPA) states that between 2000 and 2030 there will be an increase of over 60,000 new residents in Jersey City. While many of those residents are expected to move into market-rate housing, there will be even more who will be looking for dwellings that won't drain their budgets.

That need is also not lost on politicians, who depend on a base of middle and low-income residents for taxes and votes.

Mayor Jerramiah Healy weighed in on the issue recently.

"We need to keep our longtime residents in the city. It's nice to have new residents move in and to see new development, all of which brings new ratables," said Healy. "But our older residents, many of whom aren't wealthy, are the backbone of the city."

The median income of families in Jersey City, according to the 2000 Census, is $41,639.

Healy balked at the suggestion to increase developers' contributions to the city's affordable housing trust fund from $1,500 per unit of market rate apartments built to a higher dollar amount.

"It would be great if we could get $30,000 per unit from a developer, but there needs to be a balance," said Healy. "We want affordable housing, but we don't want to chase developers out of the city."

Trust fund up to $6M



The affordable housing trust fund is now up to $6 million.

City Councilman Steven Fulop, who represents Downtown Jersey City where housing and rental prices are the highest in the city, lamented the lack of affordable housing in the area.

"I would seek 'inclusionary zoning,' because there's not a lot of land left in Downtown," said Fulop. "Inclusionary zoning" is zoning regulations that create incentives or requirements for affordable housing development.

Arnold Cohen, policy coordinator for Housing and Community Development Network of New Jersey, a statewide association of more than 250 affordable housing and community development corporations, said Jersey City needs to meet the need for affordable housing.

"Affordable housing should be all across the city, not just in certain sections," said Cohen. "Thirty percent of all growth in Jersey City should be affordable housing."

Increasing the stock



At Tuesday's Planning Board meeting, several affordable housing projects received approval, including an 83-unit Jersey City Housing Authority project on Duncan Avenue, in which 74 units will be affordable.

John Restrepo, real estate director for the Jersey City Episcopal Community Development Corporation, received the board's approval at the meeting of two affordable two-family homes on Orient Avenue.

Restrepo has overseen a number of affordable projects in Jersey City. He said bringing more affordable housing to the city is a difficult process.

"A lot of work is negotiations with private owners and making sure all the funding sources are in place," said Restrepo. "But it is important to continue to pursue this effort. I remember a newspaper one time reporting on a project I was working on, and within a week I received over 120 inquiries."

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Re: New face of public housing - 72 homes in the Lafayette section of Jersey City
Quite a regular
Quite a regular


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seventoecat wrote:
Roaring20s wrote:
"America used to be a country to producers...now we're just a nation of whiners. Look at the whines and cries over this topic alone."

Unless you weren't sure, this is an opinion board..... and everyone is entitled. If you don't care for the banter, then cease responding to the thread.
By the way, why don't you tell us all how you Texans supported the Bushies and Enron and allowed the racisim and poverty of Mexicans and Blacks to continue unchecked for decades. Where were you when they dragged that Black man behind the truck? How about the homophobia, sexism and all this other macho BS? And let's go ahead and draw new voting districts to make sure the Blacks, Hispanics and other minorities have no impact on the elections. So, stop being smug... your Southern track record ain't great.


I realise that this is an opinion board and I've stated mine. If you don't care for it, please stop reading my posts...no one forced you to read it.

Also by the way, I've moved to TX less than a year ago from Jersey City where I lived for 12 years and owned a home on Bentley Avenue for the past 6 years. During my time in JC, I helped found the West Bergen/Lincon Park Neighbourhood Coalition (held office of VP for several years), was a board member of Monticello Community Development Corp (chaired the Promotions committee which held several successful fundraisers under my stead) and was on the Steering committee for Bergen Communities United (elected position not appointed).

I am also a minority (gay, Jewish) and was partnered with another minority for the past 9 years (gay, Black). I know better than most about racism and surely know far better about homophobia and anti-Semitism. I am even now more of a minority (liberal gay Jew living in the heart of conservative Baptist Red State) so there is my "southern track record".

I realise that your fairly new to the board but did you ever stop to wonder why somebody from TX is posting on this board? Just click on my name and you'll see my last posts with an option to see all my posts for the last 2 years since I joined JCList.

Posted on: 2006/7/29 2:15
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