I would like to know when an ordinance is passed to shame the parents of this kid ala dog owners who don't clean up their dog's mess. I would like to see a website or a section of the newspaper dedicated to shaming parents of kids who do this kind of garbage. Someone is not raising their kid right if they think this is funny stuff.

Also I no longer want to protect the identity of these kids. I want to know specifically which kids are doing this, because its apparent they are becoming a danger to the community.

I also agree with CapnJon but it won't fly unfortunately.

i think we should take this little prick and all his spineless buddies and line them up and let us throw bricks at them.

this makes me so angry. arrest his parents.

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They're not and there's no evidence, certainly on this board, to support that case. However, crackpot zealots - of either stripe - certainly are.

BEAT HIM WITH BRICK FOR 'FUN'
'I'm lucky to be alive,' victim says

Friday, June 22, 2007
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

A 15-year-old Ferris High School student who was acting on another boy's dare to "try beating up that guy" has been charged with viciously beating a Jersey City man with a brick while a group of fellow students cheered him on, officials said yesterday.

"He hit me with a brick three times on the right side of my face," said Gilberto Negron, 52, whose face is still black and blue, swollen and stitched as a result of the Tuesday afternoon attack.

Negron, a Ferris graduate himself, had just bought lunch at a deli and was on Brunswick Street between First and Second streets when he was attacked, he said. Witnesses said the boy came up from behind him and just began hitting him.

Negron said there were four or five others who "were just cheering the guy on while he was hitting me."

"They didn't take anything," he said. "They just did it for fun."

Negron said he was knocked unconscious a few seconds and woke to see the group running away. He said he went back to Introcaso-Angelo Funeral home, where he works, and into a bathroom to wash off the blood. He said one look in the mirror made him think, "I'm lucky to be alive."

An ambulance took him to the Jersey City Medical Center for stitches on the bridge of his nose, his forehead, and the insides of his upper and lower lips. Doctors say his face is too swollen to determine if his jaw and nose are broken, he said. He's going back for a check-up today, he said.

One of his daughters threw up in a hospital bathroom after seeing him, he said. His other daughter, Adalis Negron, 21, said that when she saw her father back at their Greenville home, she had to turn her back to get control of her emotions.

"He could have killed him," Adalis Negron said yesterday.

Witnesses in the area told police the boy came up behind the victim and just started hitting him. They said they thought the attacker was a Ferris student because they had seen him with Ferris students earlier, reports said.

Police spoke to the high school principal, who gave them photos that led to the boy's identification, said Gerard Crisonino, a spokesman for the school district.

The boy was arrested about 4 p.m. yesterday, city spokesman Stan H. Eason said.

Negron said he was at a loss to understand what happened.

"I never had an argument, never had a fight, I'm old school," he said. "When I went to Ferris, I never saw kids like this. In my days we had to wear a suit and tie, we had respect."

Downtown City Councilman Steven Fulop said "wolf packs" of youths are a serious problem that will become worse in the summer unless children are given more outlets for recreation.

"These wolf packs are a serious problem, and it's not addressed by the police," Fulop said.

Eason said police are responding to the problem, and all other crimes, saying it is reflected in statistics showing crime is down in nearly every category.

"We do not say that the incident of juvenile crime is not serious, but we do not categorize every incident as a wolf pack when they are not wolf packs," Eason said.

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Yes, my post was in bad taste but note the way the article was written by the reporter - As I said in another thread, JC as a whole lacks empathy. This is why I think JC has so much crime and will continue to do so.
Reporters, Police, City Hall and I imagine a good % of the community have a 'who gives a siht' and 'what's in it for me' attitude.

The lesson I read in this news report, is that parts of JC can't guarantee you a secure private crap within your own home, and that personal and property security should be your No1 investment here.

it's just getting re-god-damn-diculous.

that has got to be such a traumatizing event for this person. i mean, every single time the guy gets in the shower now for the rest of his life, he's not going to be able to relax.

what a scum bag.

these articles NEVER go the way I want them to go.

why not:

"as the man dragged him out of the shower at knife point, the naked victim slammed him over the head with his hair dryer, dazing the perpetrator. he followed that up with an across the face swat with a weight scale, causing the man to collapse to the ground of the bathroom floor, flat on his back. the naked man then asked the intruder if he was ready for tea, but his was no ordinary cup of tea he had in mind........."

one day.

I thought he is diabetic. Wouldn't all this alcohol kill or maim him?

The guy is seriously medically addicted and has the shakes all morning until he gets his first drop of sauce at 11AM. He has a real problem and is not in condition to have this kind of responsibility. He needs 6 months at a clinic, not the stress of a mayor's job. If we re-elect him, we deserve him. The City is not being managed at this point.

The real Mayor is the Business Administrator and the Council is running amok.

Definitely 'schadenfreude', so is comparing the incident to a Hitchcock movie!

I am very impressed with with this restaurant; went last night ran into 4 friends who got an order where one dish was not correct and they were cheerfully told that their bill was complementary.

I then sat next to one of the owners who told me:

Sawadee Thai was located in Manhattan but they moved here due to the $25,000.00/month rent.

They are the same family that owns Village Thai.

He complained about the process and time involved in get permits and said that a couple of businesses on Newark Avenue went broke waiting for them.

Alot of customers for a rainy Thursday night.

Do not order the fried bananas if you are on a diet!

He will be convicted and then what,Nothing!

We have 100,000 voters but the average mayoral election brings out 39,000.

This is how the Machine wins.Untill we start voting in larger numbers we are stuck bitching about a drunk and naked guy who is are Mayor.

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might you mean "schadenfreude"?

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Freudenschade.

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Actually, I don't have a dime in either the equities or RE markets...I do have some positions in commodities/precious metals, but only as an insurance policy against hyper-inflation.

I've been watching the markets up close & personal now for over 11 years and I occassionally re-publish some of the info I gleen from my website watch of daily news sources to see just what the reaction of that particular demographic is...

I'd have to rate "jclist" right up there with the biggest sheeple herd sites I've encountered to date, although I sense quite a bit of cognitive dissonance of the adolescent variety and a HUGE underlying dose of cognitive biases.

Here 's the Wikipedia list of the 26 most studied and widely accepted cognitive biases:

1. Bandwagon effect - the tendency to do (or believe) things because many other people do (or believe) the same. Related to groupthink , herd behaviour , and manias . Carl Jung pioneered the idea of the collective unconscious which is considered by Jungian psychologists to be responsible for this cognitive bias.

2. Bias blind spot - the tendency not to compensate for one?s own cognitive biases.

3. Choice-supportive bias - the tendency to remember one?s choices as better than they actually were.

4. Confirmation bias - the tendency to search for or interpret information in a way that confirms one?s preconceptions.

5. Congruence bias - the tendency to test hypotheses exclusively through direct testing.

6. Contrast effect - the enhancement or diminishment of a weight or other measurement when compared with recently observed contrasting object.

7. D?formation professionnelle - the tendency to look at things according to the conventions of one?s own profession, forgetting any broader point of view.

8. Disconfirmation bias - the tendency for people to extend critical scrutiny to information which contradicts their prior beliefs and uncritically accept information that is congruent with their prior beliefs.

9. Endowment effect - the tendency for people to value something more as soon as they own it.

10. Focusing effect - prediction bias occurring when people place too much importance on one aspect of an event; causes error in accurately predicting the utility of a future outcome.

11. Hyperbolic discounting - the tendency for people to have a stronger preference for more immediate payoffs relative to later payoffs, the closer to the present both payoffs are.

12. Illusion of control - the tendency for human beings to believe they can control or at least influence outcomes which they clearly cannot.

13. Impact bias - the tendency for people to overestimate the length or the intensity of the impact of future feeling states.

14. Information bias - the tendency to seek information even when it cannot affect action.

15. Loss aversion - the tendency for people to strongly prefer avoiding losses over acquiring gains (see also sunk cost effects )

16. Neglect of probability - the tendency to completely disregard probability when making a decision under uncertainty.

17. Mere exposure effect - the tendency for people to express undue liking for things merely because they are familiar with them.

18. Omission bias - The tendency to judge harmful actions as worse, or less moral, than equally harmful omissions (inactions).

19. Outcome bias - the tendency to judge a decision by its eventual outcome instead of based on the quality of the decision at the time it was made.

20. Planning fallacy - the tendency to underestimate task-completion times.

21. Post-purchase rationalization - the tendency to persuade oneself through rational argument that a purchase was a good value.

22. Pseudocertainty effect - the tendency to make risk-averse choices if the expected outcome is positive, but make risk-seeking choices to avoid negative outcomes.

23. Selective perception - the tendency for expectations to affect perception.

24. Status quo bias - the tendency for people to like things to stay relatively the same.

25. Von Restorff effect - the tendency for an item that ?stands out like a sore thumb? to be more likely to be remembered than other items.

26. Zero-risk bias - preference for reducing a small risk to zero over a greater reduction in a larger risk.

Sorry to disturb the herd from its collective slumber, you can return back to your regularly scheduled mundanities

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So this is the guy who used to run New Jersey Municipal Court? It's not quite as bad as Marion Barry running Washington DC, but it's not very good.

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Not to get in the middle of this, but I think you can short real estate through futures contracts. I think they break it down into several submarkets nation-wide.

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maybe i'm missing something, but why is somebody being burglarized while they're in their apartment funny?

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I trust neither.

Same difference.

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You are correct, super_furry!

The correct Non-Emergency # is:
201-547-5470

Sorry, as the East District Command # is:
201-547-5408

Why are naysayers more suspect than cheerleaders? Remember the tech stock "analysts" who never, ever gave a "sell" recommendation? Don't shoot the messenger saying that what goes up might not stay there.

Really Tazmanio......sigh
I also read an article in the Times stating that the avg. price of a one bedroom in NYC is 818K and two bedroom 1.2K.
Of courses prices have become negotiable in this area.
They were insane two years ago. But forelosures???
Most of the folks here could afford what they purchased.
Perhaps in all your wisdom you could predict the stock market activity for the next six months.....or maybe the next president or maybe the end of the world

Now half the building is torn down...


anyone??

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Super_furry: the # we show above is correct

(201) 547-5408

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Note that the JCPD non-emergency number is 201-547-5477.
Program that number into your cell phone.

Downtown Jersey City Watch [downtownjcwatch@gmail.com] Thu 6/21/07 1:50 PM Please be aware of suspicious actor and update on robbery at Varick. Please note that at 10:30am, a suspcious actor that fits the exact description of 2 other events in the past 2 years has attempted to open a resident's door on 4th Street between Monmouth and Coles Street. Description: Olive complexion male - possibly Italian American Dark haired - clean cut hair style Mid twenties - white polo shirt Has been described as good looking This description also fits the man who burglarized a home while contractors worked on her house. He stole Identification and laptop in 2006. This description also fits the man who attempted to open a door on 6th Street in 2005. ALSO, UPDATE FROM HARSIMUS COVE Officer Reilly reported the Robbery by 2 Juveniles on Varick. They have witnesses and are working on this case. If you have additional information, please email Officer Reilly at jcpdeastdistrict@yahoo.com. COMMUNITY CONSORTIUM WITH JCPD - meeting with all JCPD Community Officers and Community Leaders Al, Teresa, and I plan to attend this meeting tonight. Please email any incidents to report at this time.Hopefully, we will get more info on the CCTV Citizen Commission. Thanks! Pam ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: [...] Date: Jun 21, 2007 11:56 AM Subject: To: Downtown Jersey City Watch <downtownjcwatch@gmail.com> Are you aware of this? Hello neighbors, In case you haven't heard, there was a robbery Monday night at 8:00 on Varick between York and Bright. A woman (I don't know her, sorry) who lives on the corner of York and Bright was attacked at 8:00PM!! She was pushed to the ground by two young men, robbed, and ended up in the hospital with stitches. I think she had some damage to her teeth. That's all I know. I just called the police dept. and found out that there were witnesses and that they have the names of the people who did it, that is all the info they had at present. We are all savvy city slickers and get the fact that living in an urban area can be dangerous, but I just want to put out a reminder as well as some friendly suggestions about what you can do to make yourself and your neighborhood a little safer 1. Keep your eyes open and be aware of your surroundings, especially when you are alone (ipod users especially) 2. Call the cops if you see something or someone suspicious. Don't feel dumb, your call could help. (non-emergency # below) 3. Voice your concern about crime in your neighborhood to the police.(community relations # below) 4. Pass this email around Be not afraid, but be smart and take action. Don't just protect yourself, protect your neighbors. Peace out - [...] NON-EMERGENCY POLICE NUMBER 201-547-5408 PROGRAM IT IN TO YOUR CELL PHONE NOW. IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT YOU CAN'T USE IT COMMUNITY RELATIONS (Officer Reilley 8:00-4:00) 201-547-5470 Captain McDonough is said to be very receptive to hearing from the public so you can also ask for him or his email, which I am told he will respond to.

I checked out the River Schools, Baby Galileo, and The Growing Tree:

The River School in Newport won't take applications if you don't live in the LeFrak buildings. Otherwise it would be convenient, because there's also a pediatric clinic in the same building. Free parking is also available on the streets after 6pm on weekdays. This one was the most expensive out of the four.

The other River school has a 1+ year waiting list, and siblings have a higher priority than new applicants so the cribs don't free up as easily. There's a bar across from the school but I've never seen it open when I was checking out the school.

The staff was friendly at Baby Galileo, and the tuition is the cheapest here, (plus I think they have a sibling discount). No waiting list, but seemed a bit overcrowded, and they didn't seemed to use tissue paper in the changing area like they do in other daycare centers. I know your baby won't be using the outdoor playground, but I'd check it out anyways. Also, the stroller storage was inconvenient. It was in the basement.

Growing Tree's staff are also friendly, and the tuition is more expensive than Baby Galileo, and less than River school's prices. There's a scholarship program, but I think it may apply to toddlers 1+. They take babies from six weeks and up.

Whaaa, I'm scared!

Really, scared.

Tazmanio, who the F are you?

Short selling the RE market?

Pray tell.

I also went last night, very good food. I thought the cost was resonable too. Thai dumplings were great.
We'll be going back soon. Had the reisling with the food, worked well with the spice.

TWO THUMBS UP!!!

went there last night...great decor, lighting, etc...

and my indicator dish is pad thai....it was excellent!

a little pricey for thai food, but hey, as long as it's good food and service, i don't mind.

my only complaint....nix the smooth jazz!