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Cops going door-to-door to find 'wolfpack'
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Cops going door-to-door to find 'wolfpack'

by Michaelangelo Conte
Wednesday August 29, 2007, 5:29 PM

Jersey City police are going door-to-door in an all-out effort to find the teen "wolfpack'' who severely beat a 60-year-old man as he was walking home from shopping Saturday morning, cops told The Jersey Journal today.

"We hope with the resources we have here and the citizens coming aboard, we will come to a successful conclusion," Capt. Hugh Donaghue said of the push to catch the teens who put Robert Wilkinson in the hospital with broken bones and a collapsed lung.

As reported in today's edition, Wilkinson was walking home from a neighborhood store at 6:30 Saturday morning when he was attacked at Bramhall Avenue and Seidler Street by thugs believed to be as young as 14 who demanded money, then beat him when they found his wallet empty.

Wilkinson is in stable condition at the Jersey City Medical Center, a spokesman for the hospital said this evening.

Police saturated the area beginning yesterday and have been going door to door asking residents if they know anything that might help in tracking down the gang of five. Officers are also passing out fliers asking for help in the investigation and have implemented a zero tolerance policy in the area that has resulted in several drug arrests, Donaghue said.

Police brass met yesterday to develop a plan of attack and met again today for a report on the ongoing effort, Donaghue said.

"There is no excuse for what these punks did, and we know their behavior does not represent the typical young adult of Jersey City,'' Donaghue said.

Anyone with information is asked to call the police tipline at (201) 547-JAIL.

Click here for the Jersey Journal

Posted on: 2007/8/30 3:41
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I pay $56 a month at Gold Coast Fitness and it's worth every penny , service and staff are excellent, I'm not waiting for any new gym to open, i'm already at the "friendliest health club in town".

Posted on: 2007/8/30 3:07
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Re: Wayne Street Issues
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Jersey City has a rent control ordinance that comes into effect if you own anything over 3 units (or 4 units if you live there). Its called "Rent Control"......not "Rent Leveling"

Wayne Street has a large number of rent controlled buildings and converting these to condos is a real problem because the commies at 30 Montgomery Street don't let the landlords kick out the scum.

It's not that the landlords are stupid and don't know that the rent prices has gone through the roof. The City has hijacked the property and the tight guidelines prevent the landlord from improving the property by offering poor incentives and returns. There isn't even vacancy decontrol.

The responsibility of looking after poor has been delegated to the middle classes. The City loves this situation. It looks good on paper to have a certain percentage of affordable housing. (Because, hey....that's why we live in a diverse city, right?)

So next time you walk up Wayne Street or Bright street and get hassled by drug dealing shits on the way to your million dollar brownstone......you can thank the City of Jersey City and its communist rent control ordinance, and the self serving minority wankers at 30 Montgomery Street that enforce it.

"Let Prosper".......my f*cking arse!

Posted on: 2007/8/30 2:44
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Does anyone know anything about what's going to be built right infront of the Mandalay? I saw today that work started, but can't find any info?

Posted on: 2007/8/30 2:39
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Re: Bergen Lafayette: New wolfpack outrage said to fit pattern -- Teens break bones of 60-year-old m
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Of course they're gang related, the city doesn't want to say it, but it obviously is.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 2:25
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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i live in brooklyn (i'm in JC all the time and right now as a matter of fact, because this is where my gf lives and i may end up here soon as well)... my neighborhood has a couple blogs and not a forum. the blog rarely posts about crime unless it seems major, big drug bust or a big fire, etc. i know this is not because it isn't happening, obviously. you just don't hear about it as much. but its very common i'm sure. the same goes for other areas near me in bk. you hear about of muggings up in prospect heights though. its common for people to get mugged after they leave the Q train stop at 7th ave right in the little 'utopia' of park slpe. same kind of shit as you hear about on this board, so, don't think JC is any worse or better. JC is however, considerably smaller. I'm not sure how the per person etc percentages work out in comparison to nyc areas though. Also if you live near projects you're going to hear about more things than if you didn't. There are plenty of neighborhoods that are deemed 'safe' and 'hip/cool' or 'gentrified' that are close to projects. Same stuff different location.

JC also seems to have a pretty involved community, esp at this website, that keeps people informed when the local news does not.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 2:24
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored minivan
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Posted on: 2007/8/30 1:58
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored minivan
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Well, like I posted in the thread on the "wolfpack" who attacked the 60 year old man, the machete attacks are indigenous to the M13 gang.....this city needs a gang outreach program.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 1:53
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Re: Bergen Lafayette: New wolfpack outrage said to fit pattern -- Teens break bones of 60-year-old man
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I pose a question that I've been thinking about for some time...doesn't it seem that these senseless beatings are some gang related initiation or endorsed activity? I heard recently that the machete attacks are specific to the M13 gang. If the "wolfpack" senseless beatings are in fact gang inspired, isn't this issue much deeper than the speculations made in this thread so far?

Posted on: 2007/8/30 1:51
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Can't believe all the negative responses. I have been a member for half a year, and it beats all the shabby places in JC. The extra's are perfect (like free towels, schampoo's etc), and it has everything you need.

It is very quiet during the day, and yes, the pool is basic. But I have never found it to be anything else but clean. Plus, lets face it there are not that many places where a pool comes included.

Yes, there are a lot of children hat use the pool during the day (as is mine), but they all wear swim daipers plus if the pool was not clean they would be the first to stay out!

You should definitely check it out, and see what you think for yourself.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 1:44
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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don't forget the "welcome to the neighborhood" gunshots on mercer street this past Monday August 27th at 2AM.

Having spent the past 10 years in downtown nyc, anecdotally the crime is much more significant here. All you have to do is walk around and see the leftover car window glass scattered about the sidewalks.

Seems the police should put the same effort into crime prevention that they do into writing parking tickets..

I think the question is do the people moving into the "luxury" high rises feel the crime and do they put up a big stink. Seems like a bare minimum is done around the brownstone neighborhoods currently.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 1:31
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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ianmac47 wrote
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Also, I am almost certain there was at least one more mugging not listed on Erie, I think Erie and 5th,


I live on 5th & Erie ... I have not heard anything about a mugging.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 1:17
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Re: Bergen Lafayette: New wolfpack outrage said to fit pattern -- Teens break bones of 60-year-old m
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I went to court to fight a ticket and there were several kids there that were busted for curfew violations. They were asked to write a 500 word essay about the experience. I don't know if that's an effective punishment.



That is a bit ridiculous, is anyone reading them? Could we get copy of these through freedom of information? I'd be interested in seeing what they said.

What happened to good ol' community service? I had to do it when I got busted as a kid, it sucked, but I did it and learned my lesson.

Posted on: 2007/8/30 0:00
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored mini
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At least SOMEONE is telling them that they can't sell drugs on wayne street.



LOL

Montgomery Bloods vs Wayne Dominicans with $1MM houses in between.

This is such a confined area it seems like the police should be able to stabilize things in a few square blocks.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 23:50
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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Quote:

Scottacus wrote:

If there have actually been 8-10 assaults and 10-12 car break-ins all summer (as suggested in Ian's list), that actually would seem not out of the ordinary for an urban area to me. I am sure there's more, though.


I was thinking the same thing. The stats don't really seem that bad. Considering the size of the city and it's close proximity to other large urban areas like NYC and Newark, and downtown's close proximity to public housing projects (Montgomery Gardens, Holland Gardens) I would say we are doing relatively well.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 23:02
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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First day of school's coming and a playa's gotta represent.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 22:42
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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Scottacus wrote:
... Crime definitely spikes during the summer and the end of August seems like a particularly busy time each year.


One of the busiest weekends for Disneyland in CA is the weekend before Labor Day. All the parents in California who promise to take their kids to Disneyland over the summer leave it to the last minute and mass crowds descend on the park that weekend. Happens every year.

So it's kinda like that. JC-style. With gangs and crime.

Sweet-slash-yikes.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 22:33
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Keep in mind the list was based only on posts from JCList, which is not the entirely population of the downtown. Further, it excluded house burglaries, though between JCList and Wired I think there were two or three. Also, I am almost certain there was at least one more mugging not listed on Erie, I think Erie and 5th, but I could not find a post to confirm this with a date (posts are great because they are dated and people usually say, tonight or yesterday, X Happened). There were also rumors of incidents in Paulus hook, not listed here, and the dash and grab from in front of Ibbys was not listed.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 22:32
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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I agree with jenny that some context would at least be helpful. That way we could see how bad it is and really put pressure on the city, or stop bitching so much.

If there have actually been 8-10 assaults and 10-12 car break-ins all summer (as suggested in Ian's list), that actually would seem not out of the ordinary for an urban area to me. I am sure there's more, though.

My guess is that this week in particular is bad because so many cops are taking their summer vacations before Labor Day. Crime definitely spikes during the summer and the end of August seems like a particularly busy time each year.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 22:06
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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nikkiinnj wrote:
Maybe this is something that can be addressed at tonight's meeting.


What mtg is that nikki??


JCPD West District Town Mtg: Wed, Aug 29 @ 6PM

The one that unfortunately I have to miss.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 22:06
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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Maybe this is something that can be addressed at tonight's meeting.


What mtg is that nikki??

Posted on: 2007/8/29 22:02
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Re: Summer's Over, But is the Crime Wave?
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I would be curious to see crime stats for a similar neighborhood in Manhattan or one of the other boroughs.

This is not to say that the stats are not alarming -- I'm just wondering if it's so out of the ordinary for urban living.

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Posted on: 2007/8/29 21:38
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Re: To intro LeFrak deal tonight -- Unwilling to live with 5 year abatement 31-story "Aquablu"
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Its all Aqua along the water. Aqua has a retail base that sits opposite the retail base of Shore Club, the greenish tower. The tower part of Aqua is 31 stories.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:39
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored mini
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From what I hear in the streets the "victim" is not as inocent as he tries to sound. This apparantly started with a group of bloods from Montgomery coming over to Wayne st stating that no one else was aloud to sell drugs there anymore. Thats when guys from Columbus attacked them.


hehe you sound like huggy bear!

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Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:32
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored minivan
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Quote:

ChiltownJerz wrote:
From what I hear in the streets the "victim" is not as inocent as he tries to sound. This apparantly started with a group of bloods from Montgomery coming over to Wayne st stating that no one else was aloud to sell drugs there anymore. Thats when guys from Columbus attacked them.


At least SOMEONE is telling them that they can't sell drugs on wayne street.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:28
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored minivan
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oh ok then its just some gang turf war... wow what a relief !!

I feel so much better now ......haha

the funny part is , I really do .

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:23
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Re: Bergen Lafayette: New wolfpack outrage said to fit pattern -- Teens break bones of 60-year-old man
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HERO69 wrote:

""And the liberals say it is not their fault (the teens), it's society's fault, their parents....locking them up for 10 years is too harsh...it will ruin their life.""

WTF?

No one here is saying that, moron. No one.

Yer a f*cking liberal-obessed retard like Rush The Drug Addict, Hannity The Angry Leprechaun and Bill The Perv O'Lielly.


BTW, how's yer fellow conservative and restroom gay boy Sen. Craig doing today, Hero69?? Aren't you proud he ain't a LIB??

LOL!

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:20
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Re: Downtown: Bayonne teen attacked by 4 men screaming profanities in Spanish in a dark-colored minivan
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From what I hear in the streets the "victim" is not as inocent as he tries to sound. This apparantly started with a group of bloods from Montgomery coming over to Wayne st stating that no one else was aloud to sell drugs there anymore. Thats when guys from Columbus attacked them.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:18
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Re: What are they building in front of the Shore Club
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There are 2 buildings coming up there. The taller one is a new apartment building (Aqua) and the shorter one is a commercial building for some stores. I've heard that Steven's (the school currently near Kim's) will be one moving to the smaller building.

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:17
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What are they building in front of the Shore Club
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I was in Hoboken todya nd noticed that they were building another building (looks like it will be a tower) in front of the ShoreClub at Newport. Any idea what this building is? How tall?

Posted on: 2007/8/29 20:08
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