Cased the joint the other weekend.
Very nice and new.
Lovely eastern european Gabriela gave me the tour.
Everything looks top notch and the steam and sauna had me weak kneed.
$74 per month plus initiation fee.
They will knock down the initiation to $50 if you're in the last month of your contract at another gym.

However, all that being said, Gold Coast is $600 for 14 month or about $45 per month to lift heavy objects and run in place. Although the amenities are nowhere near as good as Brickhaus, value made the decision easy.
I'm sure new residents to new Grove Street condos will find Brickhaus and the Super H gym or whatever it is called most appealing. Enjoy.

Thank you Steve.

I'd really appreciate it. I have calle dteh board of elections and they don't seem to care. I don't know what else to do.

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But did the thread talk about who got the money and how it was allocated?

I think the organizations hiring the officers pay something like $15 an hour directly to the officers, but I don't remember clearly where I heard that figure and maybe it's off.

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I think the base assumption is that the officers are somehow being paid to ignore the car theft.

If McDonough is reading this thread and is incensed that I once again am assuming that the Jersey City officers are massively paid off: prove I'm wrong by having the officers show that they care about stolen cars.

If the officers act THIS nonchalant, or, really, even hostile toward people who have actually gone out and found their own stolen cars, it's just very hard to believe that there's anything even a little bit honest or competent about the JCPD.

If the members of the JCPD want us to take them seriously as a force for good and not view them as just another street gang, then they have to shape up.

Thanks for checking out the pec dec situation guys...seems no reason for me to go from Newport to Brick Haus then.

Prices seem about the same as well.

right on caj... we vote at every election too, no matter what. it just amazed me the lack of information/campaigning for this time around... getting real/current info on the candidates was nearly impossible.

having said that, a few people we voted for won. so, that's good (i hope)!

I hate the jitneys! there is an accident involving one of them AT LEAST once a month near my apartment. I live by the corner of Newark Ave and Pavonia (right by Dickenson HS) and those f**kers refuse to stop at the stop sign at that corner and will just roll into the intersection looking up Newark ave and not paying any attention to the cars in front of them.

I've seen them hit so many cars, including my own at that corner. Usually there is barely any damage to them and they usually total the car in front of them (thankfully not that much damage to mine).

The drivers are awful. they all seem to drive like maniacs. They pick and chose who and where they want to drop off and pick up people, half the time refusing to drop me off at my bus stop or picking me up at the stop. the buses themselves always smell like piss, and they rattle like they're about to fall apart any minute. I'm glad they got rid of some, they should get rid of them all or JC should regulate them better.

That's a good one about the Lojack people being amazed that they wouldn't track it, you officially have me beat. For me, coming up against that nonchalant attitude was as much of a drag as actually getting the car stolen was.

People who haven't had to go through it yet wouldn't know, so as a public service:

As far as your car goes, you are on your own in Jersey City - the system seems to have given up on stressing over car theft some time ago.

Maybe they've had to prioritize on drugs and violent crime, I can understand that. But for car theft it's like the wild wild west here, anything goes. At least that was my experience.

I don't commute by car so now I'm thinking of going with Zipcar, because I don't want to either own a total beater or have to wonder each morning if my car's still going to be there.

So one more parking space for the rest of you.

Neighborhood misses the artist's touch

Wednesday, November 07, 2007
BY RUSSELL BEN-ALI
Star-Ledger Staff

For decades, the warehouses in Jersey City's former industrial hub sat neglected or underused -- forlorn reminders of the city's historic role in manufacturing, transport, trade and labor.

But as a recent housing boom exploded in neighborhoods around these warehouses, plans emerged to refurbish them into artists' lofts. Developers, city planners, local artists and residents hammered out a rocky truce for a redevelopment plan.

The Powerhouse Arts District -- taking its name from a mammoth, abandoned brick relic of the industrial age -- would be something special. Located in an immensely valuable stretch of land a few blocks from the Hudson River, it would be a haven for artists, preserving red brick warehouses and housing a theater, concert hall or gallery rivaling anything in New Jersey.

But the developers balked at the plan and now, after many legal battles, controversy has returned. Critics argue the latest plans are wildly out of scale -- huge, modern high-rises with little respect for the historic character of the cobblestone streets and century-old buildings that remain.

City officials are backing developer Toll Brothers City Living on a proposal to turn the eight-block area into a taller, more densely built "bridge" between the new waterfront high-rises and the historic rowhouses to the west.

"Let's not get defined by what's there," said Robert P. Antonicello, director of the Jersey City Redevelopment Agency, who laid out the questions he would like to see answered by new development. "How do we think out of the box, and how do we create something that the city actually needs?"

When it comes to entertainment and shopping, many Jersey City residents head to suburban retail, entertainment and performing arts centers, or else to nearby Manhattan.

"At the end of the day, what Jersey City lacks, what it used to have (was) a central stage in Journal Square," Antonicello said. "It had a place where the city 'recreated,' it had a place where on special holidays people went."

An effort to restore such a hub is already under way in Journal Square, where the Loews Jersey movie palace, which features live music and art shows, is being restored.

Officials want another retail and entertainment anchor in the city, which was once a shopping mecca, one that's closer to downtown and the tens of thousands of waterfront residential units under construction or built over the last two decades.

They see potential for another anchor in the Powerhouse Arts District, with its proximity to the water, the PATH and Bergen-Hudson Light Rail.

The area is named for an imposing 210-foot-tall historic structure, the Hudson and Manhattan Railroad Powerhouse on Washington Boulevard. At the foot of the vacant, contaminated building sits a key power supply for the PATH trains.

The city is currently in talks with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to relocate the transformer so the powerhouse can be renovated and converted into space for retail, arts and entertainment, restaurants and galleries, said city Corporate Counsel William Matsikoudis.

Three years ago, the area was approved as an arts district after more than a decade of talks and planning.

But that has changed.

ARTISTS FIRST TO GO
First, a colony of artists was driven from 111 First Street, a hulking warehouse that has since been demolished by two Manhattan developers headed by Lloyd Goldman. The developers plan to build a 52-story "vertical city" of condos, art studios, a hotel, stores and a gallery -- all designed by famed Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas.

In addition, the Toll proposal calls for three residential high-rises, each taller than permitted by the existing plan, with luxury condominiums, pools and gyms, as well as residential and work spaces reserved for artists.

The plan will preserve the facade of the old six-story Manischewitz factory building on Provost Street, home to one of the last industrial buildings to be used in the district. The matzo-baking firm that occupied the factory moved to Newark earlier this year.

The proposal includes plans for Provost Square, a 25,000-square-foot pedestrian plaza. Benjamin D. Jogodnik, a Toll Brothers senior vice president, said the arts-oriented plaza will be surrounded by shops, caf?s and galleries.

But the square's big draw is a 550-seat performing arts center, as well as classrooms, studios and rehearsal space available to local arts and performance groups.

Some residents oppose the plan, however, having invested in a neighborhood they had hoped would be more SoHo than Times Square. They argue the 111 First St. battle established a precedent favoring the gigantic over the historic, and they note the plan calls for the dismantling of Provost Street, one of the few remaining cobblestone thoroughfares.

"The feeling now is if you have enough money, you can build whatever you want, and the current laws and current plans are thrown out the window in favor of the biggest interest," said Carrie Craft-Chu, a clothier and condo association president at 140 Bay St., the first converted warehouse in the district.

The amended plan also is opposed by the Jersey City Landmarks Conservancy and the Powerhouse Arts District Neighborhood Association.

City officials argue, however, that their plan benefits all city residents.

"It wasn't just for the eight blocks," city Planning Director Robert D. Cotter. "It was to be a place to come and enjoy the arts, and that involves a whole broad spectrum."

Russell Ben-Ali may be reached at rbenali@starledger.com or (973) 392-5807.

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/ ... 980.xml&coll=1&thispage=2

Developer set to sell condos to N.Y.'ers

Wednesday, November 07, 2007
By PAUL KOEPP
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

The developer of a waterfront highrise in Jersey City is looking to pull homebuyers from New York.

K. Hovnanian Homes has announced it has received its registration from the New York State Attorney General's Office allowing New York real estate brokers to sell condos at 77 Hudson St.

About 80 of the 420 units in the 49-floor building have been sold in New Jersey since they were made available to certain buyers in July and then to the general public in September, according to Tom Graham, senior community manager for K. Hovnanian.

But he said that with the new registration, the developer can now tap the huge potential of the New York City market, especially "the Manhattan buyers who presently think Brooklyn and Long Island City are their only options."

"We're showing them another choice in Jersey City and what we think is a better choice," Graham said.

K. Hovnanian is also offering brokers half of their commission immediately upon the closing of a sale, instead of the usual two-year wait, he said.

Prices range from $500,000 to more than $2.75 million for condos in the building, which is located on the south side of York Street between Hudson and Greene streets, one block from the Hudson River.

Graham said construction is ahead of schedule, despite a recent fire in the attached 70 Greene St. building, which is being developed by Chicago-based Equity Residential. The first residents should move in by spring 2009, he said.

1 dead, 1 hurt in Bergen-Lex drive-by

Wednesday, November 07, 2007
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

A man was shot to death in Jersey City last night and another was wounded in a drive-by shooting at an intersection known to be an area of drug trafficking, officials said.

Just after 5 p.m. yesterday, someone shooting from a car struck one man in the face - he died about three hours at the Jersey City Medical Center - and another in the leg at the corner of Bergen and Lexington avenues, Jersey City Police Lt. Edgar Martinez said.

No arrest had been made as of press time last night.

Early last month, Javon Williams, 19, of Bramhall Avenue, was fatally shot at Oxford and Bergen avenues following an argument that started at Bergen and Lexington, Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio noted last night.

The intersection has been notorious for drug trafficking for years, with the Lex Mob, named for the intersection, playing the lead role.

In 2005, 26 members of the gang pleaded guilty to various federal charges in a prosecution by the U.S. Attorney's Office that used racketeering laws to crack down on the drug dealers.

It wasn't long after those prosecutions that Lex Mob influence in the area began to be seen once more.

"It's a known distribution point," DeFazio said of the intersection. "Anytime you see things like this, there could be a correlation," the prosecutor said, regarding Williams' murder and last night's shooting.

Anyone with information on the shooting is asked to call the Jersey City Police Department tip line at (201) 547-JAIL.

DEMS SAVOR WINS
Sandy and Stack capture Senate seats

Wednesday, November 07, 2007
By JASON FINK
JOURNAL STAFF WRITERS

Sandra Bolden Cunningham of Jersey City was elected last night to the state Senate seat once held by her late husband, the city's first African-American mayor, leading the expected sweep by the Democrats in legislative and county races.

With only token opposition in independent Louis Vernotico, Cunningham and her Assembly running mates - Hudson County Undersheriff L. Harvey Smith and Bayonne City Councilman Anthony Chiappone - won the vote to represent the 31st District, which includes all of Bayonne and parts of Jersey City.

About 25 people greeted Cunningham at her campaign headquarters on Martin Luther King Drive just minutes after the polls closed at 8 p.m. She was received warmly, with kisses and hugs from her supporters.

"This seemed a lot easier today," she told supporters. "We really won our battle in June, and it's amazing we did. It's a testament to who we are and what we stand for. The cream always rises to the top."

Cunningham defeated Assemblyman Lou Manzo in the June primary.

She said her biggest priority in the Senate will be improving health care.

"We've been fighting to save Bayonne and Greenville hospitals," she said. "That's a major area for me."

Union City Mayor and Assemblyman Brian Stack, who defeated the Hudson County Democratic Organization's choice in a bitter primary in June, won the 33rd District Senate seat with no opposition, as did his running mates, Hoboken City Councilman Ruben Ramos and Caridad Rodriguez.

Stack was greeted by enthusiastic applause from more than 100 supporters at his campaign headquarters on 38th Street in Union City when he came in about 25 minutes after the polls closed.

"I want to thank everyone for the hard work they've done," Stack said. "We've built a community that's one large family, and it shows."

Stack said his top priorities will be property tax reform, protecting Abbott school districts and health care.

"It's not about building a political machine, it's about helping people."

In the 32nd District, the only legislative contest that featured Republican candidates, all the incumbents - Sen. and North Bergen Mayor Nicholas Sacco and Assembly members Joan Quigley of Jersey City and Vincent Prieto of Secaucus - easily won re-election.

They beat John Pluchino for Senate and Edward T. O'Neill and Jacob Hahn for Assembly.

County Executive Tom DeGise was re-elected to his second full term, beating Republican Agha M. Khan and independent Herbert H. Shaw, a perennial gadfly who ran on the slogan Politicians Are Crooks/Politicos Son Corruptos.

Democrat Juan Perez was elected the new county sheriff, beating Republican Gregory Rivera. The current sheriff, Joseph Cassidy, was defeated by Perez in the primary.

Barbara Netchert, who was named county clerk when the previous clerk, Javier Inclan, took a job in Gov. Jon Corzine's administration, was elected as a Democrat, defeating David Solari, the Republican.

In a race to complete the term of 7th District Hudson County freeholder, left vacant when Sal Vega became mayor of West New York and 33rd District assemblyman, Jose Munoz, the Democrat, beat Vasilios Scoullos.

ok, I will see what can be done to get this changed back however, this is a function at the board of elections not the municipal government.

Some of the locations in the city were changed due to very poor voter turnout and lack of handicap access however, I certainly agree that this makes no sense. I will bring it up tonight at the council meeting.

Steve

Joe -

By way of update for this area:

1) We are pursuing a $2mm grant from the state for the streetscape so this is moving forward actually

2) The redevelopment plan will be on the agenda for Newark/Christopher Columbus before the end of the year

3) The entertainment license ordinance which I worked on primarily for this will be on the first agenda in December (I have a draft circulating)

4) The employment and Training building on Newark Avenue will have the RFP out to sell this month (city has been approached on several ideas that are very different)

5) Next agenda in November the ordinance officially closing Newark Avenue in front of Grove Pointe to bus traffic will be on the agenda as the original plan had this open which we are trying to close

6) 7 new restaurants since we changed that law a year ago on the liquor licenses

7) I will call the Incinerator Authority director this AM to get the trash removed.

Hope this helps
Steven Fulop

We received this email notice several days ago. Please secure all bikes indoors at night as no locks may prevent theft. To: Downtown Jersey City Watch <downtownjcwatch@gmail.com> date Nov 1, 2007 11:02 PM Hello East District Command, I wanted to let you know about an incident last night. My bike is locked up outside of my house on Fifth between Erie and Manilla near Hamilton Park. Someone attempted to steal it. The kryptonite lock had been severed 3/4 of the way through. I am fairly certain it was our dog that scared the person away. My bike is safely indoors now and thought it important to inform you of the incident. [redacted]

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Do a search, nugnfutz. Info was posted here and long topic discussion. I have confidence in your "detective" skills.

Well its about 18% turnout as of 11pm. Rather pitiful yes. But most of the races in Jersey City were unopposed so I can see why. Still, there were choices in a couple of the races and there were four very important referendums (or referenda?), three of them dealing with the issue of how the state should spend its money. People should always vote and not take this right for granted.

I voted, for the record, as I have in every election. Even school board elections, and I don't have any kids.

We see cops directing traffic downtown everywhere. How much do they get, how much does the City get, and how much lines the pockets of their bosses?

too bad this never materialized:

http://www.stevenfulop.com/streetplan.htm

I never ride the jitneys and besides, they smell terrible and should be scrapped and the $1 fare is WAY too cheap, For that same Dollar I ride an 83 or 84 bus to Union City from Jersey City with a Reduced Fare ID Card because I am a person with a disability. Retire those Jitneys and clean up the air!!!!!!

You can get them from Lowes or Home Depot, about $30 each. They are adjustable to fit any window width, and you can by them in various heights for different windows lengths, 3 bar, 5 bar, or 7 bar.

Simple to install, a few screws into the sides of the window frame.

Robin.

The Record (based in Bergen County)
Sunday, November 4, 2007
Editorial Page COLUMN
A living memorial is best
By JAMES AHEARN
SPECIAL TO THE RECORD

A fitting tribute to New Jerseyans who died on Sept. 11 is already in place, on a restored brownfield, and called the Grove of Remembrance.

THE CONSTRUCTION bids for the Sept. 11, 2001, memorial proposed for Liberty State Park have come in. The bids were expected to be $10 million or so. The low bid turned out to be $22 million. The high bid was $25 million.

The state Treasury Department is negotiating with the architect for revisions that would cut costs but preserve the plan. I submit that that would be wasted energy.

The plan is a grandiose, overblown architectural fantasy that would forever spoil the breathtaking view from the park of the harbor, the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island and the skyscrapers of Lower Manhattan. (memorial doesn't block Statue or Ellis Island).

I have an alternative memorial in mind. It would cost nothing, because it is already in place in the park, although few know it is there. It is smack where a memorial should be, well back from the water's edge but with a view of the site where the World Trade Center stood.

This installation, on 11 acres of a former brownfield, is called the Grove of Remembrance. It was built with a modest federal forestry grant of $143,000 and with $220,000 in cash and in-kind donations.

The grant paid for 691 mature trees, one for each New Jerseyan who died in Lower Manhattan on that terrible day. The grant also paid for mulch, soil and shrubs, and for a big bronze plaque engraved with the names of the dead.

The grove, a living memorial, is maintained free of cost to the state by volunteers and by Jersey City schoolchildren who grow flowers and plants in classroom conservatories and take them to the grove each spring for planting. The kids learn about gardening and the responsibilities of citizenship.

Every year, there is an Arbor Day contest, for which children write a poem or a short prose piece. The winners read their compositions aloud, in a ceremony in the grove, and plant a tree. It is homey and nice.

The first year this custom was observed was 2003, when then-Gov. James E. McGreevey planted the first tree in the grove, attended by relatives of the New Jersey Sept. 11 victims. Four days later, on April 25, Arbor Day, 300 volunteers planted, mulched and watered another 200 trees. The Grove of Remembrance was thus established.

Vanity

Our Jim had bigger plans, though. A garden was all well and good, but he wanted something monumental, a built structure that would commemorate his own leadership as well as the dead.

In December that year, he announced a national competition for a design for a memorial. Three hundred twenty entries were submitted. These were whittled to a half-dozen by a team of architectural and design professionals. Then a jury of a dozen New Jersey relatives of 9/11 victims picked the winner. It had been submitted by a Manhattan architect, Frederic Schwartz.

He called it "Empty Sky," because it would be open to sun and rain, morning and night. It would consist of two parallel, 30-foot-high concrete walls, faced in stainless steel, 16 feet apart. Each wall would be 200 feet long, the same length as each side of the World Trade Center towers. On the steel would be engraved the names of the 691 New Jersey dead, in random order.

The walls, open at the ends as well as the top, would be built atop (inserted into) a 10-foot-high earthen mound. They would focus the gaze of visitors toward the site where the towers stood, on the other side of the harbor. At night, bright lights atop the walls would shine straight up into the sky.

The installation would cover 1.6 acres, including much of the public, harborside plaza adjoining the historic Central Railroad of New Jersey Terminal. The plaza, formerly used for concerts and other public gatherings, is now truncated, ending at a pile of dirt 30 feet high, surrounded by a fence. The pile is to be compressed into the planned 10-foot mound. (mound is already at 10 feet).

Funding source

What has yet to be established is where all the money for the memorial is to come from. The Port Authority is supposed to contribute $7 million and the state $6 million, although it is confronting a deficit of more than $3 billion. McGreevey had spoken vaguely of private donations, but no campaign has been mounted.

Jersey City officials have criticized the scale and location of the memorial, as has Sam Pesin, the indispensable, irrepressible president of Friends of Liberty State Park. He complains, justifiably, that state officials have convened no hearing on the plan since it was chosen. If they did, they would get an earful.

Governor Corzine has supported the plan, and I suppose that, if need be, he could just sit down and write a personal check for whatever was needed. But there is a better solution. It would be to give greater visibility and recognition to what's already there, the Grove of Remembrance. If in addition something more was deemed necessary, it should supplement the grove, not stand between it and the harbor, cutting off the view.

James Ahearn is a contributing editor and former managing editor of The Record.

They're cruising alright -- for a bloody bruisin'.

If only it weren't usually that rancid cheap-ass old lady perfume that smells like a mix of urine and "flowers." Gah.

Anyway, I was quoted 74 smackers a month at the brick haus -- on top of the 149 enrollment fee. And the locker rental was way steep, too. I think 20/month for a tiny one.

so what is your solution to the problem ?

was the mess there before the building opened ? we know the building serves a a homeless hotel after hours, but it seems to me that all is cleaned once the building opens ?

also, when you say all of columbus, are you referring to the point before the twice weekly sweeping the sidewalk of the apartments between Jersey and Barrow get ?

and yes those rats a very big

martini any one ?

dirty tony
www.dirtytonys.net

i was wondering if anyone has had window guards installed on their own and if so, who they put them in.

i want to have a few installed on my apartment windows to give myself a little piece of mind.

any input is appreciated!

Only a 14% voter turnout in Hudson County. Jeez.

Get up-to-the-minute results here:

http://www.hudsoncountyclerk.org/cgi-bin/election.pl

[/b] Dennis Kucinich Wins DFA Pulse Poll with 49,000+ Votes Cast! With over 150,000 votes cast, the DFA Pulse Poll is the largest internet poll to date in the 2008 primary. "...no one worked harder to win your support then Congressman Dennis Kucinich. He made his progressive record on Iraq, universal health care, and the patriot act clear. He didn't just ask for your vote, he worked for the votes of your friends and neighbors. He asked his supporters to join DFA and vote to make sure you heard his message. He shot videos, issued press releases, and met with local DFA leaders and members all over the country to try and get your vote. And it worked. Congressman Kucinich did not get the 66% required to earn the DFA Presidential Endorsement, but he did win our internet poll with an astounding 49,000 votes. Congratulations to Congressman Kucinich for working to win."---Charles Chamberlain, Political Director, DFA The results are in. I want to thank you for sending a loud and clear message to the business-as-usual Washington pundits. You have made it clear that the Democratic Presidential Primary is far more competitive than beltway insiders would have you believe. With over 150,000 votes cast, the DFA Pulse Poll is the largest internet poll to date in the 2008 primary. The political pundits and beltway Democrats have been claiming that the primaries are already over, but 95% of the votes cast prove they are wrong. Progressive activists want clear positions on Iraq and Iran. They're concerned with the power of special interest money in elections, and they want strait talk on issues such as funding social security and presidential power. DFA members want a Presidential candidate who will fight for progressive values and are looking for the candidates who are committed to changing the way politics is conducted in America. Take a look for yourself. Check out the interactive results now: http://DemocracyforAmerica.com/pulsepoll/results We've heard from many of the candidates directly over the last three weeks. Senator Barack Obama challenged DFA members to take the country forward in a new direction. Senator John Edwards demanded that as a DFA member himself, it is our time to take action together. Governor Bill Richardson stood up for our brave men and women fighting for our country and pledged to bring every single troop home starting his first day in office. Senator Chris Dodd demanded we stop the Bush administration's abuse of power now and not wait for elections in 2008. But no one worked harder to win your support then Congressman Dennis Kucinich. He made his progressive record on Iraq, universal health care, and the patriot act clear. He didn't just ask for your vote, he worked for the votes of your friends and neighbors. He asked his supporters to join DFA and vote to make sure you heard his message. He shot videos, issued press releases, and met with local DFA leaders and members all over the country to try and get your vote. And it worked. Congressman Kucinich did not get the 66% required to earn the DFA Presidential Endorsement, but he did win our internet poll with an astounding 49,000 votes. Congratulations to Congressman Kucinich for working to win. Check out the complete interactive results: http://DemocracyforAmerica.com/pulsepoll/results For more analysis check out these posts from DFA staff: Pulse Poll: Counting votes and Fake votes By DFA Technology Director, Tim Watson http://www.BlogforAmerica.com/view/22860 The Power of the Draft Gore Movement By DFA Political Director, Charles Chamberlain http://www.BlogforAmerica.com/view/22861 Organizers and the DFA Link Community: How they voted By DFA Field Coordinator, Ilya Sheyman http://www.blogforamerica.com/view/22863 And finally, the top three announced candidates in New Jersey: Dennis Kucinich 35% John Edwards 23% Barack Obama 16% No candidate earned more then 66% needed to win the DFA Presidential Endorsement. However, if you haven't gotten involved in the campaign of your favorite candidate yet, please consider joining the 35% of voters in the pulse poll that chose Congressman Kucinich for first in New Jersey. http://www.dennis4president.com This election is too important to sit on the side lines. No matter what candidate you support, please take action today. Thank you for everything you do, -Charles Charles Chamberlain Political Director ********************************************** Now that the DFA Pulse Poll is over, there is a new poll that was started yesterday morning for NJ voters. It is at the NJ blog Blue Jersey which also provides good coverage and comment on progressive issues in NJ. Go here: BlueJersey.com to log in and vote. If you don?t already have an account it?s easy and free to sign up. Let?s show NJ that Dennis has as much support here than as in the national DFA poll. LET?S VOTE, PEOPLE!!!!! DemocracyForAmerica.com Published on: November 05, 2007

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Au contraire! I'm also in Ward 14E and at 1PM at my table, I was #37. The table across Grace Church Gym had a similar count, so hope we at least broke a hundred here.

At the risk of sounding like a na?ve wide-eyed pollyanna I think the ballot box is a good start, but it won?t be easy.

Filling the council chambers with people and raising the kind of ruckus the papers can't resist covering sometimes sends a message--and it's fun--but it has to be followed up with all that other tedious stuff: emails, letters, phone calls, public confrontations, and lots of controversey and discussion in neighborhood associations, civic groups and congregations, and in public forums like this one.

JC?s demographics are changing, and the pols aren?t getting any smarter, but as someone smarter than me once said: ?Before us is a mountain of bullshit. If it?s going to be moved it?s gonna be one handful at a time?.