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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCLIST!
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There are benefits to 'fudging' or 'ignoring' crime rates and statistics!

Posted on: 2006/8/18 16:17
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCL
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??? St. Petersburg is the HQ of scientology!

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"1. Orlando, FL

2. St. Petersburg, FL

3. Detroit, MI"
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Posted on: 2006/8/18 16:16
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCLIST!
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I don't know, I was down there and I thought about killing that mouse!

And those tourists -- what's up with them!

Posted on: 2006/8/18 16:09
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Re: Please stop the huge 9/11 memorial at LSP - it will ruin the park's views of the Manhattan skyline!
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Not wanting to condone acts of vandalism, but some time ago in Melbourne Australia, the City Council erected a 'monument' at great cost in the city square to a lot of peoples disapproval.
The 'monument' was hit by graffiti and eggs so often that the maintenance costs got out of hand and it was removed.
It now sits out of public view and kids use it to skateboard on.

On another note, when I look at the proposed memorial / monument for the 9-11 tragic event then look at the memorial for the Korean War Veterans where is the parity?

If contracts haven't been signed to erected the memorial, who is moving all the dirt and who is paying? It really sounds like the 'horse has bolted' and it could be too late!

Posted on: 2006/8/18 16:01
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Re: Please stop the huge 9/11 memorial at LSP - it will ruin the park's views of the Manhattan skyline!
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GrovePath on 2006/8/18 15:29:47

I walked over today and they are working faster than sh!t goes through a goose -- countless truckloads of dirt are going out -- I first thought GREAT we WON -- they are removing it -- but no -- I think they are going fast to get the TALL and LONG steel walls in this weekend! NICE!



Wow. They aren't wasting any time. I was at the rally Wednesday night and I figured that with all the politicos that were there exhibiting rather strong objections to the memorial (to which we cheered), that ONE of them would have actually done something to actually stop this from happening. Sigh.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 15:43
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Re: Please stop the huge 9/11 memorial at LSP - it will ruin the park's views of the Manhattan skyli
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Trenton is trying to make LSP into a dumping ground for monuments! If they build this one -- expect more.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 15:41
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Re: Village Voice - "Suez Canal" Egyptian fish joint rules near Journal Square @ 117 Tonnele Ave.
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The Village Voice is late to the party. The NYT reviewed this place 11 years ago!
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QUICK BITES/Jersey City; A Fragrant and Tangy Egyptian Fish Stew

By ANDY NEWMAN
Published: August 13, 1995

When you get right down to it, there just aren't a lot of places that do a decent samak bil-salsah these days. That's why Suez Canal Fish and Things is such a treasure.

Samak bil-salsah is, simply, fish in sauce, but Hassan Ibrahim's whole porgy baked in tomato sauce, Port Said-style, is anything but simple. The recipe is from Mr. Ibrahim's father, a fisherman in Egypt's main Mediterranean port, and the taste is a fortuitous midsea collision of cuisines: tomato, onion, garlic, parsley, dill and cumin with phantom notes of cinnamon, anise and eggplant. The tangy, salty sauce plays delicately off the fish itself, the sweet flesh of which falls from the (plentiful) bones. Not bad for $6.

Suez Canal Fish and Things, around the corner from the strip of Indian restaurants on Newark Avenue in Journal Square, is worth a visit for the atmosphere alone. Just about the only sit-down restaurant serving Jersey City's 10,000-plus Egyptian community, it has the cozy feel of a neighborhood hangout. Men spend the evening talking over glasses of hot sugared tea. The room gives one the impression of being inside a giant aquarium. An undersea scene is painted on the window, and the red neon crab and blue wavelets on the opposite wall bathe the place in faint purple.

Mr. Ibrahim has unofficially dropped the "and Things" from the establishment's name (though the sign outside hasn't changed) because he no longer serves the Things -- kofta kebabs, lamb chops, chicken -- the better to concentrate on fish. The house mainstay is pollack or porgy dipped in whole wheat flour, grilled over charcoal, dunked in salt water and served with limes.

Suez Canal Fish and Things, 117 Tonnelle Avenue, Jersey City. (201) 333-5305. Open Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday from 1 P.M. to 1 A.M. Open Friday and Saturday from 1 P.M. to 2 A.M. Closed Wednesday.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 15:20
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Meeting Dates
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Get involved in the process by attending the upcoming public meetings. This is an open process involving the community, so that no one will be left out. I understand that the survey results are a guide, and nothing is set in stone.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 14:37
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Re: Ideas for Jersey City T-shirts
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i love: in no particular order

Jersey City: Get drunk, get naked, get elected.

Jersey City: We put the FUN in Superfund.


and this one I came up with:

Paris-Milan-Miami-Jersey City

Posted on: 2006/8/18 14:21
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Meeting Dates
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how much did the vote last summer count? are those recommendations set in stone?

Posted on: 2006/8/18 14:09
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCLIST!
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"1. Orlando, FL

2. St. Petersburg, FL

3. Detroit, MI"

- So, the area around disneyland is angrier than detroit. I guess epcot center lines = rage.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 13:27
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Re: Agreement near on access to Korean War Memorial
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I would like to know how often these vets visit the memorial that they are putting their needs above the neighborhood kids riding their bikes, etc?

Posted on: 2006/8/18 12:47
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Re: Ideas for Jersey City T-shirts
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Sung to Boy George’s Karma Chameleon

Chro, Chro, Chro, Chro
Chromium
Dumped illegally for decades
By those who come and go
Living would be easy
If it didn’t create carcinogen
Red, gold and green
Red, gold and green

Posted on: 2006/8/18 12:46
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Re: Agreement near on access to Korean War Memorial
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Not wanting to put a dampener on this issue, but you will still need a barrier next to the memorial.

The glaring problem here is that the memorial is in the middle of the road and there are 2 seating benches mounted into the road. I don't think we would like neither to be hit by a car attempting a U-turn.

Litigation seems to go with everything 'U.S' - what happens if someone does hurt themself on or around the memorial? What if a child climbs it and cracks their head if they fall?
I hope JC has paid their insurance to cover public liability?

I thought this could be an issue, considering the amount of advertising you see on T.V and newspapers from Law firms offering their service to victims of accidents on public or private spaces.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 12:38

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Agreement near on access to Korean War Memorial
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Agreement near on access to Korean War Memorial
Friday, August 18, 2006
By JOSHUA KEATING
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

An agreement may be near in the ongoing controversy over access to the Korean War Memorial on Washington Street in Jersey City.

The agreement - being worked out among the city, the Historic Paulus Hook Association and a group of Korean War veterans - would keep Washington Street open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m., according to one of the participants.

"We're very close to a compromise and it's going to be a good compromise for us and the veterans," said Steven Fulop, the city councilman who represents the area.

The street - currently closed to cars - has been in a state of legal limbo for years, having been opened and closed several times by Mayors Glenn D. Cunningham and Jerramiah Healy. There has not been an ordinance adopted since 1995.

Fulop said he hopes to have a completed agreement by next week.

Korean War veteran Joseph Swinson, one of the so-called "renegades" who demanded the street be opened even after the Hudson County Korean War Veterans Association agreed to an earlier compromise, said he was satisfied with the talks.

"Fulop is discussing this with both sides now," he said. "Before he was just talking to one side. Now we're being listened to."

© 2006 The Jersey Journal

Look for the comments later today on the 25mc Blog

Posted on: 2006/8/18 12:29
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Double Dipping and Pensions - Get Out your Checkbook!
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From today's Jersey Journal:

Don't look too far to find savings
Friday, August 18, 2006

State lawmakers want to find a way to cut the budget and bring property tax relief, with suggestions ranging from cuts in the state health benefits plan to regionalizing services to consolidating the tiniest towns and school districts.

But if they're looking to pinch pennies, maybe they can start with their own pockets. Or more precisely, their pensions.

A huge chunk of our state dollars go to paying pensions for retired state employees, including our elected officials - nearly half of whom, according to a recent survey, have two or more public jobs.

As it always seems to happen, the two state lawmakers heading the committee looking into state pension reform each holds a second public office.

They aren't the only ones. According to the Associated Press's review, 42 percent of the Statehouse - 12 from the Senate and from the 38 Assembly - work more than one public job.

And 21 of our state lawmakers hold two elected offices - including Bayonne Mayor and state Sen. Joseph V. Doria Jr., North Bergen Mayor and state Sen. Nick Sacco, West New York Mayor and Assemblyman Albio Sires, and Union City Mayor and Assemblyman Brian Stack. Each makes $49,000 a year in his part-time job as a state lawmaker, in addition to his salary as mayor.

The Center for Public Integrity in Washington, D.C., recently ranked New Jersey as worst in the nation for politicians who "double dip" in the public trough.

It's illegal in 38 states to hold dual offices. In Indiana, it's a felony, punishable by up to three years in prison. But not only is it legal in New Jersey - since 42 percent of lawmakers do it, it's almost the norm.

None of this is news to our readers, and of course, if the people don't like paying multiple salaries to the same elected officials, they don't have to keep voting for them.

But keep in mind you'll be paying them for a long, long time.

These lawmakers are not only drawing multiple salaries today, but those multiple jobs also will inflate the size of their state pensions after they retire and reach age 60.

Obviously, these lawmakers working two or even three jobs must be looking forward to a well-earned retirement.

But perhaps it's not too much to ask that they base their pensions on just one of their many jobs?

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Posted on: 2006/8/18 12:23
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCLIST!
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BrightMoment wrote:
[quote]
GrovePath wrote:
From Men' s Health Magazine

How Angry Is Your City?
A side-by-side ranking of where residents are the most steamed


Does your city's rank rankle you? We kind of figured it would.

(From most to least angry cities)

1. Orlando, FL

2. St. Petersburg, FL

70. Jersey City, NJ





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It is probably not that the citizenry of Jersey City is
cool, calm and collected; more likely just apathetic.
A few of us may needle and rankle and rancor, but
I bet the majority could basically care less.

(just opining out loud.)

Posted on: 2006/8/18 12:19
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Re: Village Voice - "Suez Canal" Egyptian fish joint rules near Journal Square @ 117 Tonnele Ave.
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I'm so there too -- I'm going for lunch right now!

I'm going to try the calamari ($8) flooded with a red sauce that owes much to Italian marinara, with the herbal seasoning shifted in a Middle Eastern direction. And I'm getting a dirty rice and a small salad!

Posted on: 2006/8/18 11:23
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STATE MOVES AHEAD WITH 9/11 MEMORIAL
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STATE MOVES AHEAD WITH 9/11 MEMORIAL
Friday, August 18, 2006
By JACK HERMAN
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

The state has no plans to alter the 9/11 memorial it is building at Liberty State Park in Jersey City, even as local opposition mounts.

On Wednesday night, hundreds of residents, politicians and park enthusiasts gathered in front of the construction site for the memorial, in the northeast corner of the park, saying it will obscure the park's "sacred" view of lower Manhattan.

Jay Watson, deputy commissioner of the Department of Environmental Protection, which is overseeing the project, told the crowd he was there to listen, but later said the project has been "vetted enough," and the state has no plans to hold a public hearing.

State Assemblyman Lou Manzo, D-Jersey City, said yesterday he has introduced legislation which would require the state to hold a hearing and also wrote a letter to DEP Commissioner Lisa Jackson asking questions about the project's funding and construction.

Others, including the Friends of Liberty State Park and Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy, have written letters asking Gov. Jon Corzine to intervene.

Calls to Corzine's office were not returned yesterday.

Bruce Kane, who lost his 40-year-old son in the World Trade Center attack and was on the committee that picked the memorial, said the idea to build a memorial in Liberty State Park has been in the works since the victims' families met for a candlelight vigil two weeks after Sept. 11, 2001.

A group of artists and architects whittled down 352 selections to 16, which a group of victims' families chose from.

Most of the ideas were impractical, environmentally unsound or too expensive, Kane said. They eventually decided upon two 30-feet tall, 200-feet long stainless steel walls, which will be cut into a gently sloped hill and be perpendicular to the water.

"The twin walls are focused on Ground Zero and provide a powerful, contemplative space for the names," according to the Web site of architect Frederic Schwartz. "The memorial's strength lies in its simplicity and ability to resonate as it honors not only those lost but also New Jersey's witnesses, survivors and volunteers."

Almost everyone attending Wednesday night's three-hour, open-air meeting - including many local politicians - hope to see the memorial moved somewhere else in the park. The Friends of Liberty State Park suggested moving the monument, redesigning it or having a public meeting to discuss it.

"People should not have to walk up or around a 10-foot high hill that is a couple of hundred feet long, or walk through walls that are 30 feet high and 200 feet long just to see the powerful open vistas," said Friends of Liberty State Park President Sam Pesin. "It blocks the sacred view of Ground Zero, lower New York City and the Hudson River."

Pesin also said he objects to the fact that the DEP charged his group the normal $1,000 fee for holding the meeting there.

Newhouse News Services contributed to this report

Posted on: 2006/8/18 11:18
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Re: Hamilton Park Renovation - Meeting Dates
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Quote:

StevenFulop wrote:
Hopefully you all have been doing well and enjoying the summer.

I have been working with T&M and other city officials to push forward with the Hamilton Park renovation project, and as a result have scheduled three meetings for public feedback on the drawings.

As a side note, the initial drawing will of course be based on the community surveys that were completed earlier as well as initial input/ideas from the different community groups based in Hamilton Park

Best Regards and looking forward to moving this forward with your help.

Steven Fulop


Dates
8/30 - Initial drawings
9/5 - Initial drawings
9/21 - Revised drawings

Location and Time –
St. Francis at 7PM


Steve,

Thanks for continuing to work on this.

Any chance these drawings could be made available beforehand so we can study them and have a more prepared, coherent commentary? Judging by past developer "presentations" to HPNA, there would also be less stupid, time wasting questions resulting from having just a few moments to study drawings from a distance.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 11:15
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Hotel tax introduced by council - would add roughly $5 million a year to the city's coffers
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Hotel tax introduced by council
Friday, August 18, 2006
By KEN THORBOURNE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

Following up on legislation Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy pushed at the state level, the City Council introduced the so-called "hotel tax" at its Wednesday meeting.

The ordinance, which is likely to be adopted at the council's meeting next month, would add roughly $5 million a year to the city's coffers, officials said.

The ordinance doesn't raise the 6 percent local occupancy tax already in place but it eliminates the ability of hotels to deduct real estate taxes - or payments-in-lieu of taxes in the case of tax-abated properties - from the total they turn over to the city.

Taking this option away from the hotels required a state law, which was passed last month.

John Rojan, manager of the Courtyard By Marriott on the Jersey City waterfront, told council members on Wednesday that the ordinance could well cost his mostly minority work force jobs.

"I was concerned if the owners now have to pay this money, rates might have to be raised," Rojan said. "It could slow the occupancy growth. It could affect our employment status as well."

Jersey City Business Administrator Brian O'Reilly responded quickly, saying the hotel industry has long charged the tax, but it was used to offset the taxes and not used to provide property tax relief to the residents.

"The rates in the local hotels have gone up 40 percent over the past several years, and we are just getting what we rightfully deserve," O'Reilly said.

Journal staff writer Jarrett Renshaw contributed to this report

Posted on: 2006/8/18 11:10
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Jersey City mayor charges Shore officer with assault
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Jersey City mayor charges Shore officer with assault
Friday, August 18, 2006
BY MARYANN SPOTO
Star-Ledger Staff

Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy and his wife have filed charges against a Bradley Beach police officer who they claim manhandled them after the mayor tried to quell a lovers' spat near a bar earlier this summer.

Lodging a complaint in municipal court Tuesday, Healy accused officer Terry Browning of aggravated assault, official misconduct and other charges in the June 17 incident.

Because the complaint involves indictable offenses, the matter now goes to Monmouth County Prosecutor Luis Valentin for review. He can either keep all or a portion of the case or send it back to the municipal court level.

Besides aggravated assault and official misconduct -- two crimes that are handled in state Superior Court -- Healy charged Browning with simple assault and harassment, disorderly persons offenses handled on the municipal level.

Healy's wife, Maureen, filed charges of simple assault, harassment and official misconduct.

According to the mayor, the incident began when he spotted an arguing couple on his way out of his sister's bar, Barry's Tavern on Main Street, around 1:30 a.m. Healy said a young man was on top of a car, yelling at a young woman standing on the sidewalk. In recounting the incident the following day, Healy said he told the young man to quiet down or police would respond.

Shortly after that, police did arrive. Healy said he was pounced on when he approached one of the officers, Browning, to tell him that the young woman had nothing to do with the fight.

In his complaint, Healy says Browning grabbed his right hand and "twisted his arm behind his back, threw him to the ground, pushed his face into the asphalt, knocked his glasses off, causing scrapes, cuts and bruising about his body."

Browning also committed aggravated assault, the complaint alleges, by knocking Healy's glasses off and by spraying him in the eyes with a chemical, causing him temporary loss of his sight.

These actions constituted "an unauthorized exercise of his official functions," the basis of the official-misconduct allegation, the complaint said.

Maureen Healy said Browning used his knee to hold her husband's neck and head to the ground. When she tried to retrieve his glasses, Browning pushed her, causing her to fall to the ground, she said. She said in the complaint that she suffered abrasions to her right ankle and a swollen, sprained middle finger.

Acting Deputy Police Chief Leonard Guida said at the time that Healy "involved himself in the investigation" after being warned he'd be arrested if he stayed.

Healy was charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest, two disorderly persons offenses.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 10:58
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Re: Ideas for Jersey City T-shirts
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jc city council
come to the circle jerk

Posted on: 2006/8/18 10:33
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Hamilton Park Renovation - Update
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Hopefully you all have been doing well and enjoying the summer.

I have been working with T&M and other city officials to push forward with the Hamilton Park renovation project, and as a result have scheduled three meetings for public feedback on the drawings.

As a side note, the initial drawing will of course be based on the community surveys that were completed earlier as well as initial input/ideas from the different community groups based in Hamilton Park

Best Regards and looking forward to moving this forward with your help.

Steven Fulop


Dates
8/30 - Initial drawings
9/5 - Initial drawings
9/21 - Revised drawings

Location and Time –
St. Francis at 7PM

Webmaster Edit: Subject Line

Posted on: 2006/8/18 10:23

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Re: Journal Square clothing store owner arrested for selling large amounts of marijuana and pirated
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"Our 'Zero Tolerance' efforts to stamp out the illegal narcotics trade in our city may take us in different directions, but so be it to fight any crime that supports illegal drug trafficking," Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy said in a statement.


Zero Tolerance? From the JCDD incident reports, the city's tolerating illegal narcotics activities quite a bit throughout JC.

Different Directions? Yes, they're going anywhere but the known hot spots!


Posted on: 2006/8/18 10:06
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCL
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Angry? Who's angry?

SCREW YOU!


Posted on: 2006/8/18 9:25
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Re: Powerhouse historic no more
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It was not long ago that the warehouse district was twice the size it was. It was all razed for development. "You've got to compromise" they said. And we did. We didn't demand that every old building along the waterfront remain (even Robert Fulton's foundry!).

Mack-Cali has at least put up some interpretive signage around Harborside. Thank G-d for small miracles.

But when the community compromised, we had hoped that the city would make good to protect the remaining remnants of industrial history along the waterfront. Then came the 111 settlement. "You've got to compromise" they again said. And New Gold will now be allowed to build a 60 story tower smack in the middle of the district.

And of course, now Toll Brothers wants to build 40 stories, and other developers are licking their chops to push their high rise plans on a city that they know doesn't take its history seriously, and wouldn't have the guts to fight for it even if it did.

I'm sure we'll here it again. "You've got to compromise."

Joshua Parkhurst
President
Jersey City Landmarks Conservancy

Posted on: 2006/8/18 8:54
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCL
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What tosh! Florida ranked 1 & 2 worst. Might be because they have a higher percentage of older residents and older people statiscally have higher blood pressure.

People get paid to produce this drivel?

Posted on: 2006/8/18 7:56
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Re: Jersey City ranked one of the least angry cities in America -- though you can't tell it from JCLIST!
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It's not called Chilltown for nothing.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 7:19
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Re: Former mayor Gerry McCann said the Newark Catholic Church Archdiocese allowed contaminated dumpi
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If Gerry McCann told me the sky was "up", I would still look out the window to check for myself.

Posted on: 2006/8/18 7:19
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