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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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soulman wrote:
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justjoe wrote:
Well, that explains why last summer I saw a big fat bunny hopping blithely along in the alley way between All Ironworks on Coles and the embankment.

I was surprised at how healthy and animated he was and thought he might have been a pet that had recently escaped. escaped from someone's pen.

Does anyone know how to prepare fried rabbit?

1/3 c. flour
1/2 tsp. salt
1/8 tsp. black pepper
1/8 tsp. cayenne pepper
1 wild rabbit or 2 squirrels, cut up
vegetable oil
3 T. flour
1 1/2 c. milk or chicken broth
salt and pepper
brown bouquet sauce

In a lg. plastic food-storage bag, combine 1/3 c. flour, the salt, black pepper, and cayenne pepper. Shake to mix. Add rabbit/squirrel pieces and shake to coat.

In a lg. skillet, heat 1/4" of oil for rabbit, or 1/8" of oil for squirrel, over med-high heat until hot. Add coated meat. Brown on all sides. Reduce heat and cover tightly. Cook over very low heat until tender, 20-25 mins. for rabbit, 35-45 mins. for squirrel, turning pieces once. Remove cover, and cook 5 mins. longer to crisp.
Transfer meat to plate lined with paper towels. Set aside to keep warm.

Discard all but 3 T. oil. Over med. heat, stir flour into reserved oil. Blend in milk. Cook over med. heat, stirring constantly, until
thicken and bubbly. Add salt and pepper to taste. Add bouquet sauce if darker color is desired. Serve gravy with meat.


Now cut that out!

Posted on: 2008/4/1 22:19
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Quote:

justjoe wrote:
Well, that explains why last summer I saw a big fat bunny hopping blithely along in the alley way between All Ironworks on Coles and the embankment.

I was surprised at how healthy and animated he was and thought he might have been a pet that had recently escaped. escaped from someone's pen.

Does anyone know how to prepare fried rabbit?

1/3 c. flour
1/2 tsp. salt
1/8 tsp. black pepper
1/8 tsp. cayenne pepper
1 wild rabbit or 2 squirrels, cut up
vegetable oil
3 T. flour
1 1/2 c. milk or chicken broth
salt and pepper
brown bouquet sauce

In a lg. plastic food-storage bag, combine 1/3 c. flour, the salt, black pepper, and cayenne pepper. Shake to mix. Add rabbit/squirrel pieces and shake to coat.

In a lg. skillet, heat 1/4" of oil for rabbit, or 1/8" of oil for squirrel, over med-high heat until hot. Add coated meat. Brown on all sides. Reduce heat and cover tightly. Cook over very low heat until tender, 20-25 mins. for rabbit, 35-45 mins. for squirrel, turning pieces once. Remove cover, and cook 5 mins. longer to crisp.
Transfer meat to plate lined with paper towels. Set aside to keep warm.

Discard all but 3 T. oil. Over med. heat, stir flour into reserved oil. Blend in milk. Cook over med. heat, stirring constantly, until
thicken and bubbly. Add salt and pepper to taste. Add bouquet sauce if darker color is desired. Serve gravy with meat.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:46
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Les Am?ricains sont si idiots! Everyone knows zat zee best way to eat zee lapin is in zee sauce of zee vin.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:28
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Thanks for another asinine April Fools article.

Info on adopting house rabbits is available at

http://rabbit.org

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:26
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Maybe we can send some of them over to Van Vorst to coax that damn african boomsling out of the sandbox.

Both stories are equally believable.

Not to mention the fact that the article is imbedded as some sort of scan, & the purported AP byline doesn't exist.

GWB

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:21
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Mama's wittle baby woves wabbit, wabbit, Mama's wittle baby woves wabbit stew!

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:10
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Quote:

justjoe wrote:

Does anyone know how to prepare fried rabbit?


Barbecued is better.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:03
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Quote:

justjoe wrote:


Does anyone know how to prepare fried rabbit?



Now that's just wrong, justjoe!

Posted on: 2008/4/1 21:01
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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And now, New Heights, you know why I don't take Ambien. :)

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:59
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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I lived in Queensbridge and Ravenswood projects in NYC and it wouldn't have been too bad if I hadn't been on drugs. I got hooked on drugs in Paradise--Miami Beach. I had many of the risk factors that contribute to addiciton and crime, the highest being abuse, poverty and lack of education. Hey, now I guest teach college classes and am asked for my opinion on TV. Lucky for you that you didn't get arrested as projects are targeted a lot by enforcement. I think getting arrested and imprisoned was a major contributor to my staying addicted. And now, if it weren't for some initiative and luck I still wouldn't be working. I went on job searches forever and did well in the interview but once they did the background check they said see ya. I HAD to start my own business which is relevant to earlier posts since I clean houses and walk dogs. But I am a darn good organizer and decorator too. The projects are mostly dangerous for those that get involved in the life, but I still wouldn't want to go back.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:57
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Re: Former Assemblyman Lou Manzo ripped Jersey City yesterday about abatements
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Here's the posts you left out, brewster:

Quote:

Schundler rammed some awful things down JC's throat, like creating "authorities" unaccountable to citizens to handle critical things like sewers. He did this primarily to balance his current budgets by "selling" the city's assets to the authority, which issued bonds to buy them. Get it? He borrowed to balance the budget, something he wasn't legitimately able to do.


What's that? You criticizing the actions of Schundler? But where is the comparative to offer you the ascertainable standard that tells you the actions you're describing above were the wrong thing for Schundler to do?

They aren't there, because you used common sense, human, normative standards to objectively evaluate the actions taken by an elected official in office that you consider illegitimate or inappropriate. Just as I have done in challenging Fulop's reversal on his position on waterfront abatements in this thread.

If you feel the need to add disclaimers to your positions, that's your prerogative, but it's absurd to suggest that the actions taken by politicians in office have no objective standards by which they can be measured, and can only be quantified relative to other actions taken by others.

In the absence of a better explanation than the one he gave earlier on this thread, I consider Councilman Fulop's January 2008 vote in favor of a 20-year abatement on market-rate luxury condos in Paulus Hook to be a reversal of a previously held position upon which he has largely staked his public image as a reformer. I'm holding him to the standards he himself has been publicly demanding all politicians be held to.

If you'd like me to compare him (as I have already done in previous responses) to his fellow council members - I know of no other council person who has so vociferously denounced the city's abatement policy for waterfront development. So while I detest the others for perpetuating the cycle, I can't call them hypocrites on the issue. And Fulop has disappointed more than just myself by voting for this amendment (see other posts in this thread).

Here's an interesting exchange from the same thread:
Quote:


Quote:

PubliusIII wrote:
The anti Bret venom is just a cover for those who fear good governement. I mean how else to explain the angry tone that surpasses any of the criticism of Healy or Cunningham who have been absolute disasters?


brewster wrote:

How is the shell games he played with budgets, authorities, utility asset sales, and bonds "good government"? The train wreck he created to balance his budgets on the backs of future ones will be with us for decades.

And if you think we haven't been complaining about Healy being a disaster you haven't been paying attention.


Again, you speak of the train wreck Schundler created in objective terms, and then, my favorite part, is that you deflect PubliusIII's subject-change in exactly the same way I have been responding to you, scooter, and super_furry in this thread! By putting into perspective that citing our current Mayor for his disastrousness and citing Schundler for his failures need not be mutually exclusive. Just as my questioning Fulop and seeking to inject some reality into the mystique surrounding him is not the same thing as endorsing the activities of the rest of City Hall.

It's disappointing that you're so threatened by having an objective conversation about where Fulop may have let you down, and that you're determined to apply certain rules to discussions about him that you don't apply in your discussions about others.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:45
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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justjoe, great to hear someone can come out ahead. but i think the crucial difference is the times. it just seems as there are NO hardworking parents raising these people. There are no values being instilled. when i say "these people" i mean the ones causing the problems, not all the residents.
I see it on a daily basis, mothers bitching out their kids, littering in front of their kids, dealing drugs in front of their kids. I've said it till i'm blue in the face, blame the parents.
And i'm sure some will say "but he's 25". doesn't matter, if he was raised like sh*t, he's not going to automatically turn into a prince at 18. Sure you can't go after parents when they're adults, but i bet if you fined them the first time junior got into trouble, that may be motivation to set him right. if only to protect their own pockets.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:45
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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Well, that explains why last summer I saw a big fat bunny hopping blithely along in the alley way between All Ironworks on Coles and the embankment.

I was surprised at how healthy and animated he was and thought he might have been a pet that had recently escaped. escaped from someone's pen.

Does anyone know how to prepare fried rabbit?

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:30
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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FWIW, housing projects, of themselves, are not the culprits. Something else is going on.

Back in the late 40s and early 50s, my family lived in Hudson Gardens, the complex at the top of Newark Ave, across Palisades Ave from Dickinson HS. Yes, life was tough. My father was in the TB Santarium. My mother left for work at 6am. We were eseentially unsupervised, like most of the rest of the kids our age.

I did my own share of juvie crime (petty theft, no personal violence). Drugs were not an issue, and that may be one of the missing factors. But wine and beer were available.

Despite many opportunities to go to hell, I did not. From the time I was 12 years old, I always had a job that made an important contribution to the family. After High School, , despite lack of further education, I found great jobs. Learning as I went, I created a few profitable businesses along the way and I now own an Internet business with clients in 7 countries.

My younger brother became both an MD and a lawyer. My sister has a Phd in education. My children and adult grandchildren have great careers, mostly professional.

This is not bragging; just facts that refute any charge that housing projects are inherently bad and are the cause of ruin for all who live in them.

What's the missing part of the puzzle as to why so many bad people come out of them today? As I said, I don't know.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:22
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Re: Former Assemblyman Lou Manzo ripped Jersey City yesterday about abatements
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SalOnTheHill wrote:
Quote:


So you're actually saying that the only valid way to evaluate a politician's actions while in office are in comparison to what other politicians are doing?

By that same logic, your stated gripes against Schundler (which I agree with) are invalid because you're examining actions taken by a politician without comparing that politician to others.


Innaccurate. Read my comments from the Schundler thread. They are totally relative to other candidates:

Quote:
As a recent arrival, I voted for Schundler's 2nd term, I don't think I would do so again. But given our nonpartisan system of unlimited candidates and some of the of the possible horrific candidates that the fates might send up in runoff against Schundler, I can't rule out a vote for him. He may be a sacrosanct, self serving, blowhard, but at least he's not a drunken idiot.

a different post
But who knows what stinkers we'll have to hold our nose and choose from come runoff time if Steve Fulop doesn't make the cut, presuming he runs. Schundler vs Healy?

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:18
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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This isn't to give anyone a hard time, just want to share an experience I had surrounding statistics. I was on the John Walsh show where a woman told everyone her organization was not racist because it sterilized the same amount of white women as black. I forget the exact number she gave but it was around 50/50. The problem with that number is that blacks make up only 13% of the population so she was actually sterilizing 5 times as many. I always keep that in mind.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:16
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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propscene

your excuse for the dog walkers success is hysterical. something tells me that in your opinion anyone who's successful got lucky or did it because of connections.
you dont need lawschool connections to be a dog walker.

If you hang out in a housing project with other underachievers chances are those will be your "connections". They sit on the stoop all day and talk about how to get more food stamps or how shitty their living condition is but dont do a damn thing about it. Walk by a project and hear what they talk about. not one will say "hey lets figure a way to get out of this shithole!"

Why is it that liberals always have to look at the negative in everything.

Stop making excuses for yourself and others, especially entire groups of people.

marybarr- its ok to disagree with me I just though you might have been on ambien when you wrote those comments

Posted on: 2008/4/1 20:06
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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Every comment relating to african americans Ive read regarding this issue is nothing short of rascist. are you telling me that because of what happened 60 yrs ago a 15 yr old child cant learn to read or write. By the way the military is less than 20 percent african american not 90% as you make it out to be.

Did you ever hear the term "Irish Need Not Apply"? your excuses are pathetic and you should be ashamed for the way you describe african americans.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 19:56
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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The more you compare the Irish to the Black experience in 'coming to America,' the lamer it sounds. But keep trying.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 19:36
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Re: Downtown: NJCU Professor, Leonardo Zayas arrested in Internet sex sting with 14-year-old girl.
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Quote:

tamard wrote:
GWB: "First of all, guilty until proven innocent".



Quote:
Leonardo Zayas engaged in conversations via the Internet, specifically chat and instant messaging, with who he believed was a 14-year-old girl. During the course of those conversations, Zayas initiated sexually explicit dialog. Zayas masturbated and transmitted those images via his web camera, and Zayas also instructed who he believed to be a 14-year-old female to masturbate. Additionally, Zayas requested to meet the presumed 14-year-old-girl for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity.


GWB you have got to be joking... In light of the PHYSICAL evidence of masturbation and transmitting images over the web- kind of hard to plead innocent on that one.

2 words: Chris Hansen.


Nope, not joking in the least. I have been flabbergasted by the flat-out untruths news reports can contain. If you've ever been "close" to a story that's been covered by the press, I'm sure you have had similar experiences.

I've had quotes from me, and quotes from people I know, show up in the paper bearing little resembalance to what was actually said.

In short, I don't trust the press, particularly in the "news breaking" type stories- Seems as though folks go by memory & what they think they heard as much as anything else in their rush to get the story up.

Further- is it possible that he sent video of himself doing whatever he was doing, who knows who he thought he was sending it to?

I don't want to argue that particular point- Just to use it to make a broader point. We don't know what we don't know, and we don't know that what we do "know" is accurate. All we know for sure at this point is that that man, with that name, has been arrested after being accused for some pretty wicked stuff. That's it.

Now ultimately I have little doubt that he's being prosecuted justly. I seriously doubt Bergen County is just picking on him. But that's why we have a grand jury & much more importantly a public trial with a petit jury.

People do get arrested and tried and then aquitted all the time. It's not like it's an uncommon occurance. This particular gentleman by news accounts ain't looking so good, but that doesn't mean that we should be pounding the stake in the ground and spreading the gasoline at his feet just yet.

GWB

Posted on: 2008/4/1 19:27
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Re: Embankment Rabbits
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wow...alrighty then



= P

Posted on: 2008/4/1 19:14
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Re: Downtown: NJCU Professor, Leonardo Zayas arrested in Internet sex sting with 14-year-old girl.
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Zayas is being prosecuted by Bergen County. I wonder if Jersey City P.D. has an internet sex crime division?

Anyone know?

Posted on: 2008/4/1 18:52
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Embankment Rabbits
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http://www.ap.org/ As reported by the Associated Press today

Posted on: 2008/4/1 18:50
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Re: Former Assemblyman Lou Manzo ripped Jersey City yesterday about abatements
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Quote:

brewster wrote:
Quote:

DanL wrote:
how can Sal not be right.....

both Councilman Fulop and Mayor Healy said they opposed waterfront abatements when campaigning.

if Councilman Fulop runs for Mayor, he will get pounded on about these issues, not just abatements, but developer contributions and the likely partnering with long time politicos looking get on his train....

some he will defend, some (hopefully, but unlikely) ignore....

competition is good as opposed to being brokered and the campaign will be "bloody", lets all hope more people than in the past take advantage of their right to vote.

now lets get back to Lou Manzo and abatements....


Dan, competition is great. That means comparing 2 different candidates, not simply attacking the 1 city official who most agrees with your position because he isn't "perfect". It's that "in isolation" rather than by comparison part that gets me crazy, and made others think he's a troll, that is, making an argument he really doesn't support. If there's a comparison to be made to Manzo, it was not in there. Perhaps you'd like to make it, I'm sure it would be informative.

I see this "he's not perfect" attack as the same logic that caused people to vote for Nader, because Gore had some warts. We all know where that got us. The folks who claimed in 2000 there was no difference between the Dems and GOP have seen how wrong they were in the larger picture. Lets not repeat the error and split our votes so far that none of our reform candidates make the runoff. I'm not saying Manzo or anyone else should walk away in favor of Fulop, but let the debate be rational and based on comparisons to each other, not some fictional ideal.


So you're actually saying that the only valid way to evaluate a politician's actions while in office are in comparison to what other politicians are doing?

By that same logic, your stated gripes against Schundler (which I agree with) are invalid because you're examining actions taken by a politician without comparing that politician to others.

I call BS on your whole line of reasoning, and suspect it's a conveniently crafted argumentation style that fits only when you're looking to preserve your own politician's public image. I think it's really unproductive, and deceptive, to suggest that when a politician's highly publicized rhetoric on a key issue is incongruous with how that politician has voted, as recently as 2 months ago, on that very issue, that the voter should simply give that politician a pass and not challenge them on it.

You don't see the forest for the trees, man. And you think not talking about these issues in advance of the full swing of the election, when you can bet your sweet ass that the opposition will be talking about these issues, in great detail, is helpful to Fulop? The sooner he directly deals with the issues that have his hands dirty (this being far from the only one), the better he will be able to refute them when they're the subject of editorials in the JJ.

Those seeking to rabidly "protect" their candidates from scrutiny end up doing them more harm in the long run than those who question them openly and invite scrutiny upon them. You and your merry band of cheerleaders are doing Fulop no favors.

Edit: As for the "not perfect" attack accusation - it's another of your fallacious arguments. I never suggested that any elected official is or could ever be "perfect", or that such a pipe dream is realistic. Holding an elected representative to the positions they espouse when asking for votes and the public persona they diligently create for themselves is not asking them to be perfect. It is asking them to be accountable.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 18:45
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Re: Former Assemblyman Lou Manzo ripped Jersey City yesterday about abatements
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Quote:

DanL wrote:
how can Sal not be right.....

both Councilman Fulop and Mayor Healy said they opposed waterfront abatements when campaigning.

if Councilman Fulop runs for Mayor, he will get pounded on about these issues, not just abatements, but developer contributions and the likely partnering with long time politicos looking get on his train....

some he will defend, some (hopefully, but unlikely) ignore....

competition is good as opposed to being brokered and the campaign will be "bloody", lets all hope more people than in the past take advantage of their right to vote.

now lets get back to Lou Manzo and abatements....


Dan, competition is great. That means comparing 2 different candidates, not simply attacking the 1 city official who most agrees with your position because he isn't "perfect". It's that "in isolation" rather than by comparison part that gets me crazy, and made others think he's a troll, that is, making an argument he really doesn't support. If there's a comparison to be made to Manzo, it was not in there. Perhaps you'd like to make it, I'm sure it would be informative.

I see this "he's not perfect" attack as the same logic that caused people to vote for Nader, because Gore had some warts. We all know where that got us. The folks who claimed in 2000 there was no difference between the Dems and GOP have seen how wrong they were in the larger picture. Lets not repeat the error and split our votes so far that none of our reform candidates make the runoff. I'm not saying Manzo or anyone else should walk away in favor of Fulop, but let the debate be rational and based on comparisons to each other, not some fictional ideal.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 18:14
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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petey8 wrote:
No one said, or even implied, that other groups weren't discriminated against. What I said was THIS:

"The Irish and Italians weren't beaten and hung, sanctioned by US law, for learning the language and opening businesses, among other things."


Ummmm, no the Irish were forced into the army right at the dock when their ships came in and scores of them died. then they were denied jobs and services---and yes they were beaten if they tried to make money. And it was sanctioned by US law which was the forerunner to the modern police department.

New Heights wrote
Marybarr- I hope you were on ambien when you wrote this.

So, everyone that disagrees with you must be on drugs?

Posted on: 2008/4/1 18:01
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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Quote:

petey8 wrote:
No one said, or even implied, that other groups weren't discriminated against. What I said was THIS:

"The Irish and Italians weren't beaten and hung, sanctioned by US law, for learning the language and opening businesses, among other things."


And, sure, many Italian immigrants, Irish immigrants, Et Cetera immigrants faced poverty and mediocre schools back home and discrimination when they got here, and you can still see the effects of those problems on our society.

There are plenty of poor white kids in the Heights, and it's as unrealistic to expect all of them to start successful supermarket chains as it would be to expect poor black kids in the scary projects by the MLK light rail stop to do that. The ideal would be to figure out what to do to help all of those kids do better, not to use one group to beat up on the other group, or my entrepreneurial great-grandparents to beat up on the poor kids of today.

If someone asks, "Who DON'T those poor kids start successful businesses?" in a sincere way, OK, I'm sure there's red tape we should cut. I'm sure there are programs that should help backfire.

But I don't think we should assume all welfare programs are equally bad and cut benefits willy nilly on the assumption that people will find food and housing somehow, or else don't deserve to find food and housing.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 17:54
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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Quote:

billc wrote:
Whoever said the Irish in America were not persecuted and discriminated against needs to brush up on their history.


Apples and oranges. And, yes, I know a bit about my Irish history.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 17:40
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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No one said, or even implied, that other groups weren't discriminated against. What I said was THIS:

"The Irish and Italians weren't beaten and hung, sanctioned by US law, for learning the language and opening businesses, among other things."

What is the matter with you???? You actually want to even try to compare these groups? This is the kind of talk we get in Jersey City in the year 2008, 5 minutes away from New York City? I can't believe it.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 17:40
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Re: Fatal shooting at Montgomery Gardens public housing complex.
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Not too shy to talk


Whoever said the Irish in America were not persecuted and discriminated against needs to brush up on their history.

Posted on: 2008/4/1 17:03
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