r_pinkowitz wrote:

You may also want to get a zone permit for the days you do park on the streets...hopefully this can avoid any future drama.

NolieOlie wrote:

Do you know if I would be able to get my money back for the boot? Would I be able to take care of that in court to?
Thanks again for your advice

lowkey2 wrote:
I understand that 1.3 could be used for cheerleader outfits and kickballs, but with no field where would these sports take place.

Turf is essential for urban sports to thrive. I could question this move if we were in Kansas surrounded by fields, but aren't....no turf=sports in dirt boxes=not fun=low participation.

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NolieOlie wrote:
This booting situation is getting out of hand. I walk to my car this morning and find that I have a boot. I read the violation and it says that they they first spotted me at 9 28 am on Manila and that I was booted at 4 21 pm on Eerie. In all truth..I parked my car at 9 25 to run up to my boyfriends apartment for 10 minutes, got back in my car and went to my sisters house ALL day and came back at 4 15 to go to my boyfriends apartment. So I call the parking authority and the woman tells me that I was parked all day and kept moving my car all day. I asked her if she followed me around all day...she said she knows what I was up to. I hung up, called back, and asked to speak to someone with a brain. She hung up on me haaaa! But seriously, how is that legal? How can they prove that And make false accusations?

What zone sticker do you have on the vehicle that was booted?

I don't have a zone permit because I have private parking at my house. It is just the fact that I was absolutely NO WAY parked in that zone for 2 hours! I know better than that because I was already booted for parking over 2 hours. That was my mistake. But, the fact that this woman who works for the JCPA tells me that she knows what I did all day....That is absurd and basically implied that I was lying. I can't see how I should be responsible for paying these fines when I was parked in the zone for 5 minutes in the morning, and 45 minutes in the afternoon. Does this make sense??? Or I am crazy? I have proof from the computerized system that my car was parked until 4:15 in my private parking garage. This might sound confusing Im just sooooo angry!

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NolieOlie wrote:
This booting situation is getting out of hand. I walk to my car this morning and find that I have a boot. I read the violation and it says that they they first spotted me at 9 28 am on Manila and that I was booted at 4 21 pm on Eerie. In all truth..I parked my car at 9 25 to run up to my boyfriends apartment for 10 minutes, got back in my car and went to my sisters house ALL day and came back at 4 15 to go to my boyfriends apartment. So I call the parking authority and the woman tells me that I was parked all day and kept moving my car all day. I asked her if she followed me around all day...she said she knows what I was up to. I hung up, called back, and asked to speak to someone with a brain. She hung up on me haaaa! But seriously, how is that legal? How can they prove that And make false accusations?

What zone sticker do you have on the vehicle that was booted?

NolieOlie wrote:
This booting situation is getting out of hand. I walk to my car this morning and find that I have a boot. I read the violation and it says that they they first spotted me at 9 28 am on Manila and that I was booted at 4 21 pm on Eerie. In all truth..I parked my car at 9 25 to run up to my boyfriends apartment for 10 minutes, got back in my car and went to my sisters house ALL day and came back at 4 15 to go to my boyfriends apartment. So I call the parking authority and the woman tells me that I was parked all day and kept moving my car all day. I asked her if she followed me around all day...she said she knows what I was up to. I hung up, called back, and asked to speak to someone with a brain. She hung up on me haaaa! But seriously, how is that legal? How can they prove that And make false accusations?

JC_DowntownRegular wrote:
The JCPA has been doing this for quite some time and they just don't care. Apparently everyone is trying to scam the city and the JCPA is never wrong. Ever.

Part of the problem is that the street signs say you can't park within the ZONE for more than 2 hours. So as far as the signs go, they are technically correct. However, unless they do follow a car around all day they will not know whether or not you have been moving from parking spot to parking spot. I do not know what the law actually states, so maybe the signs are really wrong.

I would fight the ticket using just this argument. Just remember, the burden of proof is on you. It will mean taking time off for the day, but if you do fight it, bring witnesses, notarized statements, and anything else that can prove your whereabouts for the given day.

Frankly, in the last several months, the JCPA has really begun to spiral out of control. I've heard of papal infallibility but never JCPA infallibility. In my opinion, I think the JCPA needs intervention and new oversight - and by oversight, maybe it is time the State Attorney General looked into their operation, audited them, and maybe even take over the operation until all issues are resolved. With the number of complaints that the JCPA generates, maybe it is time for the city to establish a Civilian Complaint Review Board. Maybe that would generate enough oversight and scrutiny to direct the JCPA to act in a professional manner that serves the people of this fine city in their best interest.

With the JCPA, the poor city services, the poor street conditions, the rumble strips where we don't need them, the horrible schools, and all that money we pay in taxes to get all of the above, these are all enough to start driving people out of Jersey City.

JSQ wrote:
The rule that not knowing the law is not a valid excuse has been established in ancient Rome. He could pull the one with "the dog ate my homework" with equal success.
Foreigners usually learn about this rule from the US consulate which granted them visa initially (if they had any visa, that is) - because this rule applies to entries too. This makes foreigners more aware of the rule than the natives.

The city wants to move the PATH power station to 350 Warren Street, site of the 1905 Butler Brothers warehouse. But property owner and developer Bob Lehrer has so far rejected the city's offers for part of the warehouse space.

An alternative site -- a triangle of land just across the Bergen-Hudson Light Rail tracks from the Powerhouse -- has drawn criticism from neighbors, including ones in a luxury high-rise called Marbella.

NOTE: This is a courtesy copy of this rule. The official version can be found in the New Jersey
Administrative Code. Should there be any discrepancies between this text and the official
version, the official version will govern.

TITLE 16. DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
CHAPTER 27. TRAFFIC REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES
Expires on July 12, 2011

SUBCHAPTER 1. TRAFFIC REGULATIONS

16:27-1.1 Traffic regulations
All matters concerning traffic regulations, including applications for traffic control devices,
shall be referred to the Bureau of Traffic Engineering and Investigations, Division of Traffic
Engineering and Safety, at the New Jersey Department of Transportation, PO Box 613,
Trenton, New Jersey 08625-0613. All public comments and questions about traffic control
devices shall be referred to the Bureau.

16:27-1.2. Definitions
The following words and terms, when used in this chapter, shall have the following
meanings, unless the context clearly indicates otherwise.

"Authority" means the public authority, municipality or county having jurisdiction over
highways upon which a traffic control device is located.

"Bureau" means the Bureau of Traffic Engineering and Investigations in the Division of
Traffic Engineering and Safety at the New Jersey Department of Transportation.

"Commissioner" means the Commissioner of the New Jersey Department of Transportation.

"Department" means the New Jersey Department of Transportation.

"Division" means the Division of Traffic Engineering and Safety at the New Jersey
Department of Transportation.

"Engineer" means the municipal or county engineer, the municipal or county traffic
engineer, a qualified consulting engineer retained by the authority, or a qualified consulting
engineer retained on behalf of a private entity, as applicable, who is licensed as a New Jersey
Professional Engineer.

"MUTCD" means the current "Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for Streets and
Highways," issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Highway Administration.

"Traffic control device" means a sign, signal, marking, or other device used to regulate,
warn, or guide traffic, placed on, over, or adjacent to a street, highway, pedestrian facility, or
shared-use path by authority of a public agency having jurisdiction.

"Traffic control signal" or "traffic signal" means any highway traffic signal by which traffic is
alternately directed to stop and permitted to proceed.

SUBCHAPTER 2. (RESERVED)

SUBCHAPTER 3. STANDARDS FOR TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES
16:27-3.1. Standards

(a) The basic principles concerning the design and usage of traffic control devices are
governed by the MUTCD. The MUTCD, adopted by the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA)
as a national standard for all classes of highways, is adopted by reference herein. All
Department decisions with regard to traffic control devices shall be based on the MUTCD as
provided by N.J.S.A. 39:4-120.

(b) The MUTCD is available in electronic format from the FHWA at
http://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/.

(c) The MUTCD is available in book form or as a compact disk from the following
organizations:

1. American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) at:
https://www.transportation.org/publica ... kstore.nsf/Home?OpenForm;

2. Institute of Traffic Engineers (ITE) at: http://www.ite.org/bookstore/index.asp; and
3. American Traffic Safety Services Association (ATSSA) at: http://www.atssa.com/.

SUBCHAPTER 4. APPLICATION PROCEDURES FOR TRAFFIC
CONTROL SIGNALS

16:27-4.1. Application process

(a) This subchapter provides the procedure that all authorities must follow in order to
obtain the Commissioner's approval of an ordinance establishing a traffic control signal,
pursuant to N.J.S.A. 39:4-8.a.

(b) An application requesting authorization to proceed with the design of a new traffic
control signal, for modification to an existing traffic control signal that has not previously been
approved, or for modification to an existing traffic control signal that has previously been
approved, shall be submitted to the Bureau by the authority, except that on county roads, a
municipality may submit an application if accompanied by a letter of consent from county
officials. This application will enable the Bureau to determine if a traffic control device is
warranted.

(c) The application required by (b) above may be submitted on behalf of the authority by
an engineer of a private entity, such as a land developer or lot owner, if the application is
accompanied by a letter from the authority consenting to the application by the engineer.

16:27-4.2 Application requirements

(a) The application shall include traffic count data, as follows:

1. For new traffic control signals, the traffic count data shall be consistent with the
requirements of the MUTCD; and

2. For existing traffic control signals, the traffic count data (for example, peak-hour
counts, eight-hour counts, pedestrian counts, etc., as appropriate) shall be sufficient to
justify the proposed design.

(b) The application shall include a crash summary or collision diagram. This information
should cover the most recent three-year period and include direction of vehicles, type of crash
(right angle, same direction, and so forth), date, time of day, weather conditions and severity
of the crashes including injuries and fatalities.

(c) The application shall include a recommendation regarding the installation or
modification of a traffic control signal in the form of a certification of the engineer, bearing the
engineer's New Jersey Professional Engineer's seal, that:

1. The engineer has conducted an analysis of the data submitted pursuant to N.J.A.C. 16:27-4.2(a) and (b);

2. The engineer has conducted an investigation of traffic movements and conditions at
the intersection or location of the traffic control signal;

3. The engineer's recommendation is based on the analysis and investigation; and

4. The engineer's recommendation is in the interest of safety and the expedition of
traffic on the public highways.

16:27-4.3 Application decision

(a) If upon review of the application, the Bureau finds a traffic control signal is warranted,
the Bureau will authorize the applicant to proceed with the design of the traffic control signal.

(b) If upon review of the application, the Bureau finds a traffic control signal is not
warranted, the Bureau will so notify the applicant and include in that notification remedial
actions needed, if any were identified as part of the review process of the Bureau.

16:27-4.4 Design requirements

(a) Upon receipt of authorization from the Bureau to proceed with the design of a traffic
control signal, the engineer may design the traffic control signal. The design shall be in
conformance with the MUTCD and shall include the following:

1. A signal layout plan drawn to an appropriate engineering scale containing the
following information:

i. Existing details of the physical layout including edge of pavement or curb line,
right-of-way lines, channelization, existing traffic controls, driveways, catch basins,
sidewalks, corner sight distance restrictions, bus stop locations, parking prohibitions,
and so forth. (Specify dimensions.)

ii. Proposed geometric improvements:
(1) Roadway widening;

(2) Corner cutbacks;

(3) Channelization;

(4) Pavement width transitions;

(5) Driveway openings.

iii. Signal equipment:
(1) Pole and pedestal foundation location;

(2) Length of mast arms;

(3) Signal head details shall be illustrated on the plan's Signal Legend;

(4) Location and manner of suspension of signal heads including special details
(e.g. special mounting height or mast arm mid-mountings);

(5) Special signal visibility limiting devices and back plates, if any; and

(6) Approximate location and type of detectors including pedestrian push
buttons and related signs.

iv. Regulatory and warning signs only:
(1) Locations;

(2) Legends (on other than standard signs, sign and letter sizes will be
required);

(3) Operation (if special electrically operated sign).

(4) Parking signs need not be shown.

v. Pavement markings:
(1) Stop lines, lane lines, centerlines, crosswalk lines, pavement edge lines,
channelizing lines, word and symbol markings;

(2) Line colors, widths and spacings should be detailed and all lane widths
should be dimensioned.

vi. Proposed traffic regulations (limits of regulations clearly indicated on plan):

(1) Parking, stopping or standing, bus stops, loading zones, lane use control and
so forth.

(b) The design of a traffic control signal shall include a signal operational schedule and any
specific operational notes. The signal operational schedule shall be shown only on a separate
document and not on the signal layout plan.

16:27-4.5 Installation and inspection

(a) Upon completion of the design, the authority may install the traffic control signal.
(b) Upon completion of the installation of the traffic control signal, the engineer shall
inspect the final installation for conformance to the design plan, shall note any modifications
from the design plan, and shall determine if all modifications, if any, are in conformance with
the MUTCD.

16:27-4.6 Certification and approval

(a) After the traffic control signal has been designed, installed, and inspected, the authority
shall submit to the Bureau:

1. A certification of the engineer bearing the engineer's New Jersey Professional
Engineer's seal, stating that:

i. The traffic control signal has been designed in conformance with the MUTCD;

ii. The engineer has inspected the traffic control signal; and

iii. The traffic control signal has been installed in conformance with the design; or,
the traffic control signal has been installed in conformance with the design with
modifications identified and found to conform to the MUTCD, with reference to the
applicable section(s) of the MUTCD;

2. A copy of the as-built plan;

3. A copy of the signal operational schedule; and

4. A certified copy of an adopted ordinance establishing the traffic control signal. (A model traffic signal ordinance is available from the Bureau.) If the signalized intersection
involves multiple authorities, each of the authorities having jurisdiction must also submit an
ordinance or resolution as appropriate.

(b) Upon receipt of the engineer's certification, the as-built plan found in compliance with
the MUTCD, and the adopted signal ordinance and county resolution, if applicable, the Bureau
will recommend to the Commissioner the approval of the ordinance pursuant to N.J.S.A.

39:4-8.a.

16:27-4.7 (Reserved)

SUBCHAPTER 5. REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION
16:27-5.1 Requests for information
All requests for information concerning whether or not a specific traffic control device has
received the approval of the Commissioner must be submitted in writing to the Bureau of
Traffic Engineering and Investigations, New Jersey Department of Transportation, PO Box 613,
Trenton, New Jersey 08625-0613, accompanied by a payment in the amount of $25.00.

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heights wrote:
being a foreigner or terrorist

yes they are all the same, foreigners/terrorists/blacks/asians. f em all, USA USA USA!!

you are a real piece of work.

JC_DowntownRegular wrote:
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heights wrote:
Serves him right ! Just like the dopes that had more than $100k in those failed banks where the F.D.I.C. only gives half of anything over than $100k. Ignorance and being a foreigner or terrorist is no excuse for breaking the law.

Heights, I guess everyone can not be as well versed in international commerce and customs regulations and as financially savvy as you.

Yes it is up to each individual to know the rules and regulations beforehand, but don't throw it back in their face when they make an honest mistake.

I'm sure you never ever made a mistake. And you probably never ever brought anything back into the country without declaring it.