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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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UrbanRenewal wrote:

Something really should be done, and I think a waist-high barrier requirement may just be the best solution.


I agree that the barriers are a good idea - but i don't think it wouldn't work in this case. Where would you "draw the line"?

If the carts are permitted to go into the parking lot, can you imagine how large the perimeter would need to be? Plus, you can't but barriers on the access road right in front of BJs and ShopRite - this would allow a way out for the carts.

BJ's just needs to be a responsible member of the community and put electronic wheel locks on their carts like the other stores do.

I'm not familiar with how the Pathmark lot is laid out, so if the barriers work there they could maybe work here.


Shop-rite, which is right next door to BJ's, uses the wheel locks to prevent the carts from being rolled off the lot. I never see a shoprite cart around downtown, ONLY BJ"S!!

Posted on: 2008/7/1 20:36
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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While moving my car this morning for street cleaning, I counted six, SIX! Yes! SIX! BJ's shopping carts within a two block radius. One was along side that empty building on Monmouth and Bright, One was simoultaneously being pushed by someone across the street into the Colony plaza, two were in the back of the Siperstein Paint parking lot, one was across the street from those two and the third was in a caged in garbage like area along side the big apartment building on York between Monmouth and Varick. I didn't have my phone with me to take pics, but I wish I did! Six carts in the span of five minutes!


Call the JCIA Inspectors line to have them pick them up!

Inspectors
(201) 432-4645 ext.671

email Councilman Fulop and tell him something must be done about the BJ's carts! Thanks

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/7/1 16:56
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I agree UrbanRenewal, those are very good suggestions. How do we get this plan moving forward? Should we contact Councilman Fulop to present these ideas? Remember BJ's doesn't really percieve this as a problem. I have spoke to them on several occasions just to be told all detterents don't work. They were very uncooperative in dicussing and finding a solution. Did you know there is already a ordinance on the books(which they don't enforce) that pertains to stealing shopping carts:

Notes to Chapter 284

[HISTORY: Adopted by the Council of the City of Jersey City 11-20-1990 as Ord. No. McC-233. Amendments noted where applicable.]

? 284-1. Abandonment unlawful.


No person shall leave or abandon any shopping cart upon the sidewalks, streets or roadways of the City of Jersey City.

? 284-2. Identification tags required.


No merchant, corporate or otherwise, shall provide shopping carts for the use of his customers without first affixing thereto a permanent tag of identification setting forth the name and address of the merchant.

? 284-3. Seizure; redemption or sale of abandoned carts; fees. [Amended 6-14-1995 by Ord. No. 95-050; 2-26-1997 by Ord. No. 97-007]


All such carts abandoned or otherwise left on public streets, public property or on private property without the express consent of the owner or tenant thereof or the City of Jersey City shall be seized and impounded by the Police Department or the Department of Public Works, to be sold in accordance with the provisions of N.J.S.A. 40A:14-157 at public auction as unclaimed property after a period of six months, unless the owner thereof shall claim them from the Police Department or the Deprtment of Public Works within said period and pay the sums as provided in Chapter 160, Fees and Charges, to cover municipal retrieval and storage costs. Such fees shall be paid to the Treasurer of the City of Jersey City for the purposes of the City of Jersey City.

? 284-4. Violations and penalties.


Any person violating or failing to comply with any of the provisions of this chapter shall, upon conviction thereof, be punishable by a fine of up to fifty dollars ($50.).

Posted on: 2008/6/27 18:28
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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2dogdoll,
Thanks for your reply to my question. You made alot of great suggestions that I definitely think we may have to use in the future. As of now, I think a good course of action may be to go with pchops solution. I'm in pchops, anyone else?

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/6/26 14:12
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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2DogDoll wrote:
Dear Elvis:
FYI some of the BJ carts do have locks on them and some of BJ?s carts do require a deposit of $20 to use. E-mails are the coward?s way out. Since you have such a vendetta against the club, why don?t you go there in person, Elvis. The club has long hours, both day and night. And since you are cheering him on Jaah, why don?t you join him.

You both claim that BJ?s does nothing to retrieve their carts. Are you both so naive that you seriously believe that BJ?s wants to lose between $200 - $400 per cart per day? Every destroyed cart costs the club money ? costs that are eventually passed on to the shoppers. I sincerely doubt either one of you is a member. If you were, you would have a different perspective on the matter.

I?ve shopped in BJ?s since it opened. BJ?s has sponsored some wonderful educational, social, cultural, and charitable programs over the years. I know for a fact that they?ve tried countless ways to stop shopping cart theft, but if the thief really wants to take one, there is virtually nothing that can be done to stop it. I have seen ShopRite carts, Target carts, Bed, Bath & Beyond carts, and now, Morton carts. I can?t tell you how many of them have been left on my corner.

The solution continues to be requesting that the police issue a ticket to anyone walking down the street pushing a shopping cart.

And Jaah, a lot of local institutions will be hurt when BJ?s leaves. I do hope you plan to open your pocketbook to help defray some of their costs.


2dog,
the carts are all over our neighborhoods, what would you propose we do about it. The police will not issue fines to people who take the carts, I have called them to report a person wheeling a cart up Newark Ave and they said you have to call BJ's about it. The police don't want to be bothered with it. BJ's carts are the only carts I see around because they don't have the wheelocks..case closed. Upon calling BJ's about the problem they basically said there is no problem and they will do nothing about their lack of an anti-theft program. If people were going into Bj's and stealing merchandise off their shelves they would do something about it ..right? Well why won't they prevent the theft of their $200-$400 shopping carts. We want our neighborhoods shopping cart free, carts make them look filthy and ghetto. Since the police will not ticket cart stealers, how do YOU propose we stop this neverending problem??

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/6/25 23:04
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Great work Elvis, thanks alot for your attention and effort reguarding this problem. Hopefully you can get through to these people. I will continue to call the JCIA inspectors line whenever I see a cart and have them picked up and destroyed. I recently went to an HDSID meeting and spoke to the board about this issue. They agreed that it was a problem and that they would send a letter to BJ's telling them that for every shopping cart picked up by the JCIA, a fine will be issued. I also was told that the area in which BJ's resides is due to be redeveloped and that BJ's may not be around much longer. How much longer..I don't know.

Thanks again Elvis, lets keep the pressure on BJ's!

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/6/25 21:49
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You yuppie scumbags.

Don't you think if someone is pushing a shopping cart full of stuff down these messed up sidewalks, that they don't really have much of a choice?

Just the trouble of pushing a cart down down sidewalks this bad is punishment enough for borrowing a cart without written permission. Pushing a stroller or granny cart is hard enough, maybe some of you can relate to that.

I've bought a shopping cart full of food at A&P (right across from the Travel Car Service office), and waited 45 minutes for a cab. (3 calls to Travel 10 minutes apart, they said they'd be there in 5 each time, and then 15 minutes more calling other cab services, and the wait when I found one that was willing to go there).

Not everyone has a car or even the extra money for a cab. And cabs are so unreliable that you can't count on them (except the gypsy cabs at Pathmark, they are more polite, have cleaner cars, and they're right there. You can also get kids to help load the car for a couple dollars).

If you want to fix the "problem", encourage BJ's to encourage customers to report where they left the cart, so that their collection truck can recover them more easily.

Honestly I'm disgusted by anyone who sees this as a problem and not just part of the bizarre charm of Jersey City.

So far as them being used as trash receptacles, I have seen at least 10 garbage cans disappear (hit by cars and never fixed) in the 8 years I've lived in JC. I can name the former location of 5 off the top of my head. Why not put your energy into making sure the city has adequate garbage cans, and replaces them when they are destroyed?

In order to fix the problem, maybe YOU should consider walking the cart back to the store you stole it from instead of being a lazy scumbag and dumping it on the sidewalk for other people to deal with. It's called illegal dumping you ignorant fool! Shopping carts make neighborhoods look dirty and ghetto-ish, so why don't you take some pride in yourself and your neighborhood and help keep it clean. Purchase a "granny" cart and make do, save your money and bye a bycycle with some saddle bags or buy an inexspensive used car. You sound pretty resourceful...make it happen. WALK THE CART BACK TO THE STORE!!

Posted on: 2008/6/21 19:26
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Re: Where are all the BJ shopping carts coming from?
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elvis wrote:
If some of you had bothered to read the whole thread you would know, the problem is BJ's doesn't think this is their problem. I have called and talked to them myself, and was told quite frankly, that it is Jersey City's fault for having thieves. I believe the direct quote was "YOUR neighbors are the ones stealing the carts, what do you want us to do about it?" So while all these solutions are great ideas, BJ's would never implement them.

What Jaah is trying to say is, that if somehow we could get BJS to work WITH us, we could solve this. But the only way to do that is to hit them where it hurts. If they start losing money, they might be inclined to hear us out.


Thankyou Elvis,that is exactly what I meant. By the way, I never said the thieves who steal the carts shouldn't be photographed, I think thats a great idea. What I did say is that you need to be careful doing such because some people when confronted with a camera will resort to violence...so be careful. Bj's not doing anything to remedy the cart stealing is one part of the problem. The other part is the people who constantly steal the carts and dump them for the residents to deal with. It IS illegal to steal and then dump a shopping cart but the police don't enforce the law. I believe it's a $50 fine if caught with a cart.
If you see any carts around your neighborhood call the JCIA inspetors line: (201) 432-4645 ext.671 and have them removed and destroyed. Eventually the loss of enough carts will get BJ"S attention and they will do something to prevent their loss.

Thanks,
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Posted on: 2008/6/20 18:16
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2DogDoll wrote:
Rather than destroying the carts, why not take a picture of the inconsiderate wretches that steal them and post their pictures around the neighborhood.

The carts need to be destroyed so there is a monitary loss to BJ's. That is the only thing that will get BJ's attention. The other part of the problem is the people stealing the carts and then dumping them for others to deal with. Posting their pictures is a great idea but be forewarned, alot of people may not take kindly to being photographed and you may have a fight on your hands. Posting the cart stealers is a proactive idea though!!!

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/6/19 19:18
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TheVillage wrote:
By reading from the posts this past week it appears that there are carts at the following locations.

- 1st and Brunswick:

- 1st and Erie:

- Coles and Columbus:
- Coles and Newark:

- Morgan and Marin (3 carts on the northeast corner).
- Jersey and 10th between 9th

- Sussex St and Washington St
- Warren and Grand
- Warren and Sussex (blue shoprite cart)

How about we take action and tackle the problem by bring them back to BJ's.

Anyone up for getting together lets say this Sunday at 10am, selecting a location listed above, if the cart is still there bring it back to BJ's. Meet at BJ's at 10:30 and bring them into the store and deliver them to the store manager.

Anyone interested?????


I can take the cart at 1st and Brunswick


To All,
Whenever you see a cart call the JCIA inspectors line -
(201) 432-4645 ext.671
I have and they have been very receptive to the problem. They will come , pick up the carts and then destroy them. I have called about several carts and they have been taken off the street. Most of the carts appear on Mondays because most people do their food shopping on weekends.
We, the public , have to work together and stay on top of these carts. The more carts picked up and destroyed the more loss to BJ's!!

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/6/19 18:04
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I am going to the HDSID meeting next week to voice my concern about all these shopping carts all over the district. I dropped by their new office yesterday and spoke with a woman there about this very problem. She said that a possible solution is to have JCIA, who regularly picks up these carts, tell BJ's they are going to destroy every cart they pick up rather then bring them back to BJ's, which IS what they normally do. Perhaps the threat of losing the carts permantly would be enough of a monitary incentive to fix this prob. I would love if a bunch of people would join me. The meeting is next tues at 10:30am at 125 Newark Ave. The meeting is open to the public. The board has local business owners on it and we could appeal directly to them, they want to clean up the area and renovate it. I believe the HDSID also deals with the neighborhood associations, maybe they can mediate and get them all on board. Sound like a plan?

JAAH

Posted on: 2008/6/12 15:31
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Re: Jersey City and Hiroshima (after the atomic bomb)
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Hi all,

Have you ever thought that there are many places (lots) in Jersey City that strikingly resemble Hiroshima after the atomic bomb was dropped? It's not just one or two places. It's everywhere. It's kind of depressing, isn't it?

Atsushi

I personally can't stand the way the parking lot next to Jordan's Lounge on Newark Ave looks. The bent and dilapidated prison-bar looking fence, the uneven and warped ground commonly puddle strewn with rocks and trash sprinkled all around. Not to mention the damaged old cylcone fence on the other side of the entrance. (The fences are 2 completley different types where they should be uniform and visually match) After a good rainfall the left parking lot forms ponds of water adding to the overall beauty of the of the lot.(I din't even think it's paved) The whole parking area needs an entire facelift!!!

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I have tried to e-mail the Village Association at the address listed in a few previous postings and it keeps coming back DENIED. ( used info@jcvillage.org.) Any ideas? Anyone know when and where they meet?

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Posted on: 2008/6/5 10:03
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Hey Elvis,
Just curious...how did your call to Tim Hebert (BJ's manager) go?

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/6/2 19:18
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Just found a cart on my block with garbage in it, called BJ's and told them to come get it. Told them, once again, about their cart problem and asked why the don't have anti-theft wheel locks on them. Customer service rep said they did but they broke and have not been repaired. What exactly is broken is unclear to me but at least they acknowledged the did have them at one time. I then said there is a shoprite next to BJ's with the locks and I never see there carts around town, only BJ's, so the locks must work. Customer service rep agreed..amazing!!! So EVERYONE on JCList keep on BJ's about these damn shopping carts. Everytime you see one call BJ's and tell them to come get them.Tell them the carts are a huge problem in our neighborhhod and to PLEASE install the anti-theft wheel locks.

Thanks,
Jaah

Posted on: 2008/5/31 14:40
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elvis wrote:
Thanks for the info. I called to talk but was told by a Tom Wrider "BJ's Manager" that those electronic shop Rite Cart things dont work! Which was good to know considering I have never seen a Shop Rite cart outside of their lot ever! He also told me that is was all the JC residents fault and said that maybe I should mind my own business. This is where I got a tad defensive as he was attacking me. I said "I respectfully disagree. I have never seen a Shop Rite or Pathmark Cart out of their lot" To which he responded by telling me I was wrong. I was dealing with a real mensa man here. Bottom line, Tim Hebert is the man to talk to when you call, although he wont be in until Monday. You better believe they are getting a call Monday 9:30 am.

Nice job Elvis, WE all need to keep the heat on BJ's to force them to change!!

Posted on: 2008/5/30 18:48
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elvis wrote:
Seriously. BJs needs to get on it. You never see any Pathmark or Shop Rite carts. They have a responsibility to the neighborhood to keep those carts on site. Is there someone we can call?


Everytime I see a cart I call BJ's 201-798-0500 then dial#0 (customer service) and tell them where the cart is and to come pick it up. You can also call the JCIA inspectors line#
(201) 432-4645 ext.671 and they should come right out. We, the public have to keep the pressure on BJ's to show our displeasure and hopefully force them to change. They MUST inact a stronger anti-theft system.

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/5/30 17:48
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Blame your neighbors for the problem - people should know better than to take private property - the fact that BJs even has to do something about this is ridiculous!

Way to stay classy Jersey City.



Oh, poooor BJ's.

Because they are not protecting the carts with a wheel-lock system, BJ's is complicit in this problem. It's probably part of the their sales strategy to leave their carts unprotected. In an urban location many of their customers will come without cars. Unlike a supermarket most of BJ's sales are large bulk items. If they don't turn a blind eye to cart "theft", they'll lose a lot of customers and sales. Most of the carts are retrieved eventually and then liberated once again in a repeating cycle. If this system didn't work to BJ's economic advantage, they could have collaborated with Shoprite years ago when they installed a successful wheel-lock system.

BJ's is effectively using Jersey City as an extended parking lot for dumping its carts and the City is putting up with it. Individuals should be fined for taking the carts onto the city streets, but the City should find a way to fine BJ's (or any store without a theft-prevention system) for all their carts blighting the landscape. The way to stay classy, Jersey City, is to clean up your shit.


While I agree with your opinion about people who take carts should be fined and that JC needs to do more to make Bj's install an anti-theft system, I don't agree with your thoughts on the so-called repeating cycle and the fact BJ's is OK with it because if they weren't they would lose alot of customers. Any thoughts on how we can bring this cart issue into awareness to the public and force BJ's to install more ant-theft detterents?

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BTW, tried to send and e-mail to info@jcvillage.org twice and delivery failure was the result.Is the address still in existence? Does the Village Assoc. still function? Thanks

Posted on: 2008/5/29 22:20
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radryan03 wrote:
BJs hires someone to go looking for their carts on a regular basis - I have seen the truck in the Hamilton Park neighborhood. It usually has a TON of carts on the truck.

Blame your neighbors for the problem - people should know better than to take private property - the fact that BJs even has to do something about this is ridiculous!

Way to stay classy Jersey City.


People stealing carts should be addressed by JC. Fines should be issued to people caught with a cart off BJ's property,and if necessary, arrests for repeat hardheaded offenders. But, in all fairness, BJ's needs to install a stronger deterrent sytem to keep these carts on their lot. Anti-theft locking weels and barriers around the lot should be used to keep the carts in. I have also heard about a coin operated cart sytem where you put a quarter in a cart dispenser and it releases 1 cart to you. When you return the cart you get your quarter back. All shopping carts should be locked up at night!

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I call BJ's and tell them everytime I see a cart on the street to come pick it up. If alot of us did that we could keep the pressure on themand keep them honest with their cart pick-ups. I live on 4th and Monmouth, the Italian Village area, I think it's called. If we had a strong resident association I'd say we go to our local meeting and address it there. Since it is a problem with a few areas of JC getting each areas resident association on board would be a start. Or as I said, maybe bringing the issue up to Councilman Fulop could work. He could probably help formulate a plan to combat this at least.

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/5/29 19:41
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JimA wrote:
I'm at Brunswick & 2nd and find the carts everywhere there. Maybe it's from the Hudson Reporter being delivered on Saturdays. Have you seen the family's pushing the carts down the street full of papers? By the time they get to the end of the Village they just leave them when there done. I wonder if the Hudson Reporter knows how their papers are distributed?

If your willing, keep an eye on that Hudson Reporter situation. If they are responsible report it to that papers higher ups/managers and let them know this is unacceptable. The only way we can stop the constant shopping cart pollution is by ALL of us residents sticking together and making it an issue with the responsible parties. Thanks,

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/5/29 18:23
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Doesanyone have any ideas on how to stop the flood of BJ's carts all over JC. Would getting Fulop involved help. Maybe he could speak to BJ's about installing anti-theft devices on the carts or building a barrier around the lot to keep the carts in. Maybe fines can be issued to residents seen taking a cart. I don't know...anyone?

Posted on: 2008/5/29 17:47
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If you call BJ's they will humor you and tell them they are coming to pick them up.


Every time I see a BJ's shopping cart left on the side of the road, mostly on Newark Ave, I call BJ's customer service dept and tell them where it is and to come pick it up. Alot of the times I notice they DO come and pick it up, and yes, sometimes they don't and it takes from a few days to a week to get them. But everyone needs to call and keep up the pressure on BJ's to get them and let them know this situation is inacceptable. Why don't the have the anti-theft wheel locks for their carts? There is something about seeing shopping carts left lying around a neighborhood that make it look trashy.

Jaah

Posted on: 2008/5/29 13:48
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So I step out my front door today and LITERALLY 3 ft in front of my front steps, in the MIDDLE of the sidewalk, is a pile of dog s**t. What the f**k is wrong with people, why any pet owner feel it is ok to do that! Whomever is allowing their dog to s**t in front of my house and leave it there please be forewarned...I will be watching! I live on 4th st. please pick up after your dog. Stop being such a sneaky, ignorant mf!!

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Posted on: 2008/3/24 22:38
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Just came from Savas and ordered 12 perogies and a jar of kraut = $10. Love the food and the prices!! Can't wait to dig in.

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Re: Parking - FIRE HYDRANTS!
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I see some pretty inconsiderate drivers double parking and blocking the crosswalks everyday as I walk to the path along Newark Ave. On the corner of Newark St. and Bay is a fairly consistant nightmare, when 1 double parked car pulls away another is ready to take its place usually in under 2-3 mins. Yesterday a beer truck was completely blocking the crosswalk there, cutting off all crossing pedestrian traffic and creating a very dangerous situation. Cars coming up Bay St toward Newark can't see crossing pedestrians and pedestrians are literally forced into the street/ halfway into the intersection before they clear the front of the truck!! Police need to crackdown on these quality of life issues.

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ADT looks like it's the most expensive to install...way more $ then the others. Why is installation soo exspensive?

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Thinking about purchasing one for my home but not sure which brand to go with: Lohmans, Brinks or ADT. I've done some research but would like some feedback on what others have chosen and why they feel it's the best of the three. Thanks!

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