sillyscorp wrote:
so if we have established that the thing that people hate about shoprite is the people in there (who presumably are from this area... I doubt people travel very far to go there)

bodhipooh wrote:

What can I say? I feel your pain! I try to follow a pescatarian diet, and I just don't feel like we have any good fish options in town. Several people here have said that Shoprite is decent for fish, but I rue my every visit there, so I just get my fish needs fulfilled at WF (in Tribeca on my way home, or Millburn on weekends) and sometimes get some of the frozen stuff from TJs. We definitely need a decent fishmonger in town. A business like that would do some serious business by virtue of being the only one.

About the PH elementary, I have heard great things about it. I don't have any elementary school aged kids, but it is good to know for when people ask. But, I do have question (thread hijack alert...): I had heard that some kids were no longer guaranteed a spot there due to overcrowding. Is that not true? Or, perhaps no longer the case? IIRC, kids that were sent elsewhere only had to do that for a year. Any information would be great. Thanks!

Good lord. Do you have any other First World problems you'd like to discuss?

"I had to look at poor people while I bought my Belgian Tilapia!"

Voyeur wrote:
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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:

I did end buying in that area...though closer to Hoboken, not by the projects.

If you think the area compares to Greenville or BL you need your head examined.

Yes, you're right - I'm the one that needs my head examined.

JCishome wrote:
If you like boat rides, that sounds like a great idea...except it would cost a bundle. Have you thought about Weehawken? You'd be halfway to Edgewater but could use the light rail to commute.

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jcguy05 wrote: i am thinking about moving to edgewater just for the supermarket, they have wf, tj, AND mitsuwa. My 3 favorite supermarket for very different reasons. Meanwhile JC has none :( Only thing stopping me is the damn daily commute to newport i am told the traffic is insane during rush hour and the <10 mile commute takes 1.5 hours one way!

The traffic to/from Edgewater IS insane. I have ridden my bicycle there faster than it takes me to drive the same distance. There is no good route there. I have tried turnpike to 3, JFK all the way, multiple combinations of local roads, through Hoboken (using Bloomfield, Clinton, Washington, and Willow) and the best route I have figured out is via Paterson Plank Road from DTJC to 14th St, and then the god awful River Road. That whole area would BLOW UP in popularity if they had better road access into and out of it. If you ever get stuck in the River Road traffic, you will be stranded for what feels like an eternity trying to cover a relatively short distance. After the last time that happened to me, I swore off the area and now head out to Millburn for my WF/TJs fix. They don't have a Mitsuwa, but the peacefulness and much more pleasant crowd more than makes up for it.

RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
There's going to be buildings where those tracks are now.

07310 wrote:
"The specialty grocer is slated to announce Thursday that it has signed a lease to open a 29,000-square-foot store in the heart of the city's downtown. "

29K sq ft grocery store is small. Most grocery stores in NJ are 40K-80K sq ft.

RUinHamiltonPark wrote: My original post was about a condo I looked at on Grove between 14th and 15th, so it could be possible that that is where Honeycat lives. There are a few buildings there, and then what appear to be townhomes across from St. Lucy's. There are also a few buildings on 16th Street with apartments. Honeycat- where was it confirmed that it will be a hotel by Burke's? Frankly what scared me off from a nice, large condo at a good price on that block was Burke's and the homeless shelter. You're shielded from that more by 700. IMO, that area has so much potential...walk to Newport, Hoboken, HP...so much shopping. If they got rid of Holland Gardens (and they are supposed to) it would make a real dent.

jsqfunk wrote:
Has anyone heard anything about the future of this site?
The last thing on NJ.com was over a year ago.

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... ys_montgomery_garden.html

The JC housing authority does not list any updates

For those of you who are unfamiliar with this area, this is what the buildings look like now - note the lowest two floors on each building are boarded up.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jonathansabrams/10762307883/

user1111 wrote:

"If the merchants don't make money, is that good for Jersey City?" asked Jeff Fabia, who owns the bar, restaurant and pizza place known as Grove Square at Grove Street and Newark Avenue.

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jcguy05 wrote:
Hi i just got hit with a 30% increase in my tax abatement payment and plan to appeal.

From talking to the tax assessor office (surprisingly helpful), the nice lady said the reason is because of the increased assessment on my condo.

However i am very confused about the assessed value in the http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/ website, can someone please tell me how to actually read it.

I purchased the property in 09 for 380k, it is now worth around 400k. But the monmouth website is showing "Assessed" as 180k and also it doesnt show any increase in the assessed value, it is 180k for the last 5 years with no change.

I guess my question is where can i find the actual assessed value of my property that jersey city used to increase my tax abatement 30%? I am paying more than 6k a year in taxes i know for a fact they are not based on the 180k assessment, or it would be much lower.

Once i know the actual assessed value then i can find comparables to do the appeal.

Thank you

For assessed value of 180k in JC you should be paying $13,438.8/year for 2014 ($7466/$100k assessed value).

http://tax1.co.monmouth.nj.us/cgi-bin ... istrict=0906&ms_user=monm

Are you sure you are reading the site correctly? There should be a table giving the following

Land/Imp/Tot = Assessment before exemptions
Exemption = any abatement
Assessed = Tot - Exemptions - what your tax bill is based on

You can also check you billing under: http://taxes.cityofjerseycity.com/

The JC equalization rate for 2014 was 31.24%. If your property is valued at $400k - that implies an assessed value of $124960 ($400k*0.3124) - grounds for an appeal since there's a difference of over 15%. It does however mean you have to prove the $400k value or so based on sqft cost of recent comparable sales.

But that $124960 assessment means you should be paying around $9.3k - a lot more that the $6k or so you have been paying.

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honeycat wrote: The A&P, BestBuy and Target is less than a 2 min walk. And a 10 min walk to the Newport Path Station. I bike to hoboken which is right down the block as well.

1 post potential shill that is completely lying to the world with this statement. As usual, multiply time by at least 2. In this instance , it is about a mile from 700 Grove to the Newporth Path. Lots of people can't even run there in 10 minutes let alone walk. <2 minute walk to A&P, Best Buy and Target? LOL Mulptiply by 4. NEXT!

WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:

Who cares about the stock price? WF's revenue, gross margin and cash accounts are growing every year. WF is doing better year after year - they know what they are doing. So much butthurt because they didn't pick YOUR city.

Bubble_Tea wrote:
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jcguy05 wrote:
it's not even the population density, but the demographic - downtown jersey city is full of mid/high income residents who are health/organic focused - the perfect target audience for WF. Not to mention i can count at least 10 highrise rental towers coming in the next 2 years to this area increasing the population density even further.

Yet WF chose to overlock jersey city in favor of suburbs with far less density and more competition. No wonder their stock is down by 30%+ YTD. What a bunch of idiots.

Is JC the "perfect" target for Whole Foods? I'm not so sure. A lot of the DT-JC residents are extremely frugal savers relative to New Yorkers, which is why they live in DT JC rather than NYC in the first place.

That's obviously a generalization, but I think it's particularly true among the two major foreign cultures that have moved into DT JC en masse. They also tend to concentrate their food shopping at grocery stores that specialize in food from their native countries.

I'm not suggesting any negative connotation here--it's GOOD to save. I'm just pointing out what Whole Foods has likely considered as they analyze demographics and neighbors for their business strategy.

I think that analysis will change as more and more of these rental projects are completed, because of growth in the sheer number of potential shoppers.

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JCMan8 wrote:
Do you really think the execs of WF are stupid and don't recognize the obvious market potential in DTJC?

It's possible. Years ago I once had an exchange of emails with an exec at Harbor Freight Tools when I urged them to open a store on 440. I said "you've opened stores out west in towns of 30k but you won't open one here with half a million people within a 15 minute drive?" His response: "but the rents are too high there for our business model". He was completely unable to get his head around the kind of volume the store could do compared to some shitass village in Nebraska. So, yes, WF execs may be capable of making stupid choices.

PS they've since opened stores, including 3 in Saddle Brook, Clifton and Hasbrouck Heights that are 10 minute apart, but not one in Hudson Cty.

Michael Sinatra responds:
Michael Sinatra
Hi all,
On behalf of the entire team at Whole Foods Market, thank you for reaching out to us with your interest in bringing our store to Jersey City. As a resident of Hudson County myself, I certainly understand your desire. Our real estate teams are consistently out and about looking at potential opportunities to serve more shoppers in the area and we've long heard loud and clear from Jersey City residents that they want a Whole Foods. Should you ever have a suggested location, please feel free to let us know in our "Suggest a Store" forum of our website.
http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/forum ... 36-4fab-9cec-ae561906a267
In the meantime, we appreciate your continued patronage in Vauxhall and Edgewater... also, please know that our store in Tribeca, located on Greenwich St, 2 blocks north of the path at WTC, does in fact deliver to Jersey City and offers personal shopping and concierge services. For more information about those services, call our store at (212) 349-6555.
Thanks so much,
Michael Sinatra
Public Relations & Public Affairs
Whole Foods Market, Northeast Region

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Yvonne wrote:
I was raised in Hoboken and Washington St and Newark St were always the shopping districts packed by shoppers. However, if you wanted to do serious shopping, you left Hoboken and went to JC and shopped at Newark Avenue and then Journal Square. Fantastic stores and places to eat.

What are you talking about? Unless you are homeless and looking to update the look of your shopping cart, no one shops on Newark Avenue. In fact, most of those stores that sell junk are always empty.

People shop at Newport, Target, or drive elsewhere.

terrencemcd wrote:
The resolution approving a letter of intent between the city, the JCRA and the Powerhouse developers was approved. The next step is coming up with a redevelopment agreement. Not sure what the timeline is there, but when I find out, I'll post an update.

jerseymom wrote:
Sharpton's group to hold 'march against police brutality' in Jersey City

By Patrick McGovern | The Jersey Journal
on September 26, 2014 at 5:17 PM, updated September 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM

The North Jersey chapter of the National Action Network will march down Martin Luther King Drive in Jersey City on Saturday to protest what it calls ?police misconduct, prosecutorial misconduct, and police shootings in our city.?

?It?s open season on young black men,? said Carolyn Oliver-Fair, president of the North Jersey chapter of the NAN. The National Action Network, founded in 1991 by Rev. Al Sharpton, is a civil rights organization with chapters throughout the country.

According to Oliver-Fair, although the group is angry about the issues their communities face, the march will be peaceful.

?We need to come to the table and discuss these issues intelligently,? she said. ?We need to draw attention to these issues.?

In June and July there were three police-involved shootings in Jersey City, two of them fatal.

-- On June 24, Lavon King, 20, was shot dead by a police officer in a shed behind a home on Ege Avenue. Police said King was identified that day as being wanted on outstanding warrants. Police say the chase ended in King's death when King struggled with the officer for the officer's gun.

Last month King's family said they would be filing a wrongful death lawsuit.

-- On July 13, Lawrence Campbell was shot dead by police officers after he shot and killed a Jersey City police officer who was responding to a report of an armed robbery outside a drug store. Authorities say Campbell was wanted in a murder and that he told a bystander that he was going to do something that would make him famous.

-- On July 15, a man attacked a Jersey City police officer inside his marked vehicle this morning and was shot twice by police a block from a memorial for Campbell.

The Hudson County Prosecutor's Office said this week that the fatal shootings of King and Campbell are still under investigation and it has refused to release copies of their autopsy reports.

One goal of the group, according to Oliver-Fair, is to create a citizen review board in Jersey City. The board would be made up of civic leaders, human rights advocates and other grass roots organizers.

According to a press release, some of the goals of the march are ?building trust again? and ?unifying actions for the betterment of community safety.?

The march is scheduled to begin at 1 p.m. at MLK Drive and McAdoo Avenue. The demonstrators will go north on MLK Drive to Clinton Avenue, where the march will end at 3 p.m.

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