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Yeah, yeah, we all understand the implications of her actions but I would bet almost anything she was freaking out not being "selfish". The Flight crews training kicked in but this passenger never trained for this. I would with-hold judgement when you have no idea how you would react. Several of the passengers didn't even realize they had landed in the river at first.
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Ummm, thanks kind stranger for the pm, that's what I get for posting while watching A.I. : ) statistics not statics
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Of course it is. I'm sure it was extremely scary situation for everyone, but either one of these people (especially the second lady) could have caused the loss of many lives. Opening the rear door that was under water would make the plane sink very quickly and would more than likely kill a good number of people by drowning -- even those that were already outside of the plane. When you're on a plane you absolutely listen to the crew at all times. I am judging them right now, and I think they're selfish idiots.
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It's part of our job. We have to use our best judgement when handing a particular animal. I find cat scratches to be a more frequent nuissance but anything is possible.
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Hmmmm, if "facts are stubborn things", what would you call completely off-base, fact-free generalizations? Hypocritical know-it-all fail.
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I don't understand everyone's problem with Comcast. I have never had any service interruption, when I have called to add services or ask a question I'm rarely on hold more than 5 minutes. Not to mention that while not Fios speeds, they are pretty damned fast:
 That being said, I will switch to whatever is faster. I talked to someone at Comcast last week who said they will be rolling out 50/50Mbs within a year and a half in Jersey City. That will compete nicely with Fios.
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Ludo Wrote: Lets say you get your wish and dog owners have to be licensed and pay big bucks to do so. How do you plan on enforcing this law, when the city doesn't enforce the law currently on the books about licensing dogs until there is an incident or another law is broken? And you keep talking about cars being a necessary evil that is highly regulated, but there are plenty of people driving around without insurance or in some cases even a license. How would your law be any different? Honestly, I think any law would come about through a discussion between dog owners, non dog-owners, law enforcement, etc. I can't possibly know enough to write the law for you right now. But nothing is more annoying to me than "Group-Think", which is what happens on this board with the dog owners calling anyone who is concerned about dog bites "hysterical". Or suggest that you must hate dogs if you think something should be done to limit dog bites. It would be stupid for me to ask why these dog owners hate children, the most common victims of dog bites, but its the same silly implication? Its a problem, people are victims and the problem deserves to be addressed. The knee-jerk reaction from dog owners is that any suggestion of a problem or better regulation is heresy and anti-dog sentiments need to be crushed. But I can offer my personal suggestion. First, the big bucks people pay for licenses would be used to pay enforcement officers to patrol and respond to complaints. Perhaps there could be a hotline to report owners who leave dog shit on sidewalks, or whose dogs act threatening. etc. Now if your irresponsible dog owners is caught leaving shit on the sidewalk, well then an investigation might reveal the dog owner doesn't have a license. Im open to other ideas that anyone might have to improve dog-human relations, but with dogs representing probably half the population of Jersey City, this will be a recurring problem and deserves attention.
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Guess what?
MY DOG BITES! She bit me twice in the almost eight years I have had her. Both times were specific incidents when she felt threatened and freaked out. She's a shelter girl and she has some issues. But she's gorgeous so she can deal with her personality disorder -- on a leash, with my supervision. I don't let her run around small people and I warn all people (casually so as not to create fear) when they meet her for the first time. That's my responsibility and that's the deal she and I made when I got her. 99% of the time she is the greatest dog in the world, but that 1% is something I take very seriously. The issue is not dogs biting as much as it is that the owners bear great responsibility for their pets. Oh, kids bite too. Adults even bite. Go figure.
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Philasurfer- Lets say you get your wish and dog owners have to be licensed and pay big bucks to do so. How do you plan on enforcing this law, when the city doesn't enforce the law currently on the books about licensing dogs until there is an incident or another law is broken?
And you keep talking about cars being a necessary evil that is highly regulated, but there are plenty of people driving around without insurance or in some cases even a license. How would your law be any different? The good dog owners would shell out the bucks to make sure they didn't have any problems, but the bad dog owners would just ignore the law and we would have the same problems we have now.
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my 2 cents on the insurance thing... and, I will be straying off topic a bit.
1)IMO, EVERYONE should have insurance with or without a dog. It protects you and your property in the event of ie: fire, theft etc. Nothing sadder for me, then seeing a family burnt out, loose everything and have zero insurance, and most are renters that have no clue that the owners insurance does not cover them. 2)IMO, there is nothing wrong with a property owner requiring the tenant to have insurance if they own a dog (dogs with no teeth excluded). In some states the owner of the property can also be held liable for dog bites on their property. A dog owner that carries liability insurance with a rider for their dog also protects them outside of the home. For any renter or homeowner that has insurance and correct me if I'm wrong: I've never seen a policy that hasn't asked if you own a dog that resides on the property. If you do not disclose this information and you report a loss your claim may be denied because you gave false information on your application or did not follow the terms by amending the policy. That reason alone I would tell the truth and get the dog on the policy. I have renters insurance and I include my dog on the policy. I own a very large dog and only certain companies will write a renters insurance policy that includes her. I pay approx. 95.00 extra per year for the dog. Plus, I love that I have protection of the insurance company, they all have special investigation units that prevent insurance fraud and if someone tried to "sue the shit" out of me, they will handle all of the investigation on the claim. If I am at fault, I own the problem and I have coverage and if someone tried to pull a fast one....I also have some protection. Okay done with my 2 cents......
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Man, you guys are really resistant to facts and information.
Here is a study done by the CDC entitled, "Dog Bites; How Big A Problem?" The Conclusion of which is pretty much exactly my recommendations. Stricter laws and enforcement and more education. The report concludes that dog bites are a serious problem. http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dog4.pdf Here is another study done by the American Veterinary Medical Association called "A Community Approach to Dog Bite Prevention." http://www.avma.org/public_health/dogbite/dogbite.pdf Here is the first sentence of that study: "Dog bites are a serious public health problem that inflicts considerable physical and emotional damage on victims and incurs immeasurable hidden costs to communities" Funny thing is they suggest exactly what I was proposing, something led by some sort of advisory council. This was put together by a multidisciplinary task force, probably the most comprehensive study in the Country on the subject. I think you guys should do a lot less assuming and more research. You are just, plain wrong.
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I agree with your reply about the statics being "general". It's my understanding that over 75% of dog bites are from the pet of family or friends, and 50% of attacks occur on the dog owner's property. I think when throwing out stats about dog bites, it really needs to be broken down.
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Options would be Comcast Internet through the cable lines or DSL through Verizon. I am not sure if there are other DSL service providers in the area. Ultimately Verizon owns the phone lines and the third party provider will go through Verizon anyway, but if you hate Verizon, there may be other options. If you don't need blazing speed, DSL is currently cheap and it should be fine.
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The information provided using this Web site is only intended to be general summary information to the public.
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Man you guys are grasping for straws. Here is the same information, not from lawyers, but from the Center for Disease Control.
more than 4.7 million people a year 800,000 Americans seek medical attention for dog bites; half of these are children http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/biteprevention.htm Quote: Skepticalhook wrote: Even the purported 365,000 bite victims allegedly treated in hospital sounds high. Skeptical, It might "sound high" to you, but you have absolutely no basis to say that outside of your own personal experience. Simply because you, personally, have not observed dog bites has no relationship to how often they happen. Sorry, facts continue to be stubborn things. You guys must hate children or something, look at these child bites that you don't care about! Why do you hate childrend so much?
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Back to those statistics, any idea how many of those were bitten by their own dogs, breeders, trainers, dogfighters (who deserve it), etc? 4.7 million seems awefully high for the errant dog-off-leash attack. I would think too that parents have some responsibility on those children attacks.
I think those numbers make this sound like an epidemic-that would be about 1.5% of the country annually getting bitten by dogs. Are they calculating when my dog nips the end of my finger b/c I don't let go of the treat fast enough? I question the number or, at a minimum, the implication. Even the purported 365,000 bite victims allegedly treated in hospital sounds high.
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Very interesting Vigilante, I didn't even catch that.
I never said dog attacks don't happen, I'm not out of touch with this country. But to call my experience with my personal dog misleading and useless is just silly. I've never been hurt and no one else has been hurt due to my dog. I don't find that useless at all. The point I was originally trying to make is that nothing is concrete so I think it's wrong to generalize anything. You are afraid of dogs and that is going to push your argument in the direction you choose. Confirmed bias. How many times have you personally been attacked by dogs? Because you really speak as if you're attacked every day you leave your house. Statistical breakdowns are very important, otherwise the stats are useless. Car accident stats don't mean anything unless you know if drinking was involved, if someone slid on black ice, if someone ran a light or if someone was trying to dodge a child in the street. That's why sweeping laws are wrong. Laws are usually just opinions made official.
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Both websites are run by? You guessed it! Lawyers!
From Dogbitelaw website: Disclaimer re the Dog Bite Law web site It is important that you understand the limitations of this web site and any other that provides legal information. Dog Bite Law provides general information about dog bites and dog bite law. Materials within the Dog Bite Law web site are for informational purposes only. They are not legal advice and should not be used as such. Transmission of the information is not intended to create, and receipt does not constitute, an attorney-client relationship. Readers should not act upon this information without seeking professional legal counsel. Transmission of information and questions to Mr. Phillips, and receipt of his replies thereto, does not create an attorney-client relationship. While he endorses products that promote dog safety, he does not sell them and is not responsible for any problems that might arise from them. From Dogbiteexpert website: Animal behavior expert witness Dr. Polsky assists attorneys develop / utilize behavioral arguments regarding dog bites & cat bites, prepare declarations & reports, inspect attack premises & render animal behavior expert testimony. Incident reconstruction. Full litigation support. Available nationwide. Both civil & criminal. Scientifically based analysis concerning dog behavior, dangerous dogs, dog bites & cat bites & dog / cat inflicted personal injury.
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Your only other possible option is Verizon DSL. But that depends on where you live too. If your home is too far from the switching station it won't work. Didn't work for me. Besides, DSL is an inferior "broadband" product.
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JimmyB wrote: The issue with these numbers Sorry Jimmy, no issue with the numbers. Facts are stubborn things. I don't think the stats are broken down every way you would wish. These numbers prove one thing, that your study with a sample of one, your dog, is incredibly misleading and useless. In fact, this story is likely under reported if anything due to the fact that most dog bites aren't reported. You can find a million reasons to justify the dog bites that do occur, but the fact is that they do occur, apparently, far more often than you thought.
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No one at the Liberty Science Center begged for money.
The LSC will receive a loan of Urban Enterprise Zone funds from the Jersey City Economic Development Corporation. The loan will be repaid. The LSC has drastically cut the staff to conserve funds. Nearly every museum in the United States is short of funds and looking for new income streams.
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The issue with these numbers is that they don't describe the situation, motive or context which to me is extremely important. A silly teenager antagonizing a dog might get bit. Or a burglar. Animal shelter workers get bit all the time but they keep coming back for more. And of course you have the illegal dog fighting incidents, gross. As for the postal workers, I feel for those guys. But that's usually just a dog protecting its property, not off leash biting random people on the street. Now see if you can find these incident stats connected to JC. And also how many dogs are in ownership compared to these incidents. That would be interesting to see.
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JimmyB Wrote: But pay less attention to the news and more attention to the countless responsible owners in this city. Maybe try counting how many times you get bitten while walking the streets. Fair question, so I decided to look it up. The results are worse than I thought: - there were 4.7 million dog bite victims annually in the USA. - 1,000 Americans per day are treated in emergency rooms as a result of dog bites. - In 2007 there were 33 fatal dog attacks in the USA. -Most of the victims who receive medical attention are children, half of whom are bitten in the face. (I personally have a fried who was sued, he was the dog owner, whose dog bit a 2 yr old neighbor in the face. Not good.) http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html - Nationwide, U.S. Postal Service carriers suffered 3,423 dog attacks and bites in 2003. - According to the American Medical Association, dog bites are the second leading cause of childhood injury, surpassing playground accidents. http://www.dogexpert.com/Dog%20Bite%2 ... cs/DogBiteStatistics.html Those are the facts.
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Maybe I'm not paying attention but how often do these dog attacks or bites actually happen? I can only speak for myself but I got my choco lab December of 2006. He was a puppy. I've walked him at least 3 times a day since. So let's say it's been 2 years, 730 days. I won't add January of this year because I've left him behind when I traveled so I'll subtract a month. I don't travel a whole lot. 3 times a day for 730 days, I've walked him at least 2,190 times. He has never bitten anyone. Ever. 0 out of 2,190. And that's just me. So relatively speaking, I think these attacks are really quite rare. You make it sound like it happens everyday. We pass dozens of dogs on the street everyday and I've never witnessed one of them biting someone. You are afraid of dogs and that's totally fair. But pay less attention to the news and more attention to the countless responsible owners in this city. Maybe try counting how many times you get bitten while walking the streets. There are definitely bad apples but not as many as you'd like to think.
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I think it's wicked shady to talk about these people outside the actual incident itself. To speculate on their living situation and other specific things is tacky. Bitch about their dogs all you want but to talk about the son, the address, and other personal information is uncool. Let's concentrate on bashing each other instead! 
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Current JC rotation:
Eats: * La Conguita - good, cheap Latin food * Honshu - they have better sushi than Komegashi and nicer staff (however, their sake selection is weak; byo sake!) * Bertucci's - yes, it's an Italian chain restaurant, but way better than olive garden and good thin crust pizza * Shadman - fast, cheap Pakastani halal * Wong's Gourmet Chinese - Best take-out Chinese in downtown Places: * Sky Tobacco - not too many places to smoke a cigar indoors during the winter. Good selection as well. * Trader Joe's (in Edgewater) - still hoping for a JC TJs! No Whole Foods!! * Liberty State Park - we are really spoiled with a great park nearby! * BJs - love buying in bulk!!
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Elvis wrote: car comparison, which you either refuse to understand or just plain do not get, i Elvis, I fully understand the car example, but Im telling you it is a useless comparison. Cars are a necessary evil, they provide a critical social function. Dogs are not necessary and do not play a critical role in people's survival. So car dangers are much easier to accept than dog dangers. That is not to say that cars should not, and are not, strictly regulated and those regulations are enforced. Unlike dog laws. I also don't know what evidence you are using to come to the conclusion that I am in the minority in my views. If you took a poll in Jersey City that asked this question: "Would you support stricter dog control laws if it meant less shit on sidewalks and less dog bites?" I suspect I would be in the large majority. Your argument about priorities strikes me as very defeatist. I get it, it is not the main priority in people's lives. But are you saying that since we have large problems, we should not solve the small ones? Quote: Elvis wrote: you want to enforce a law that would inconvenience many people, so the few could feel safer Let me just add that I am not trying to enforce a law so that people FEEL safer, I want to enforce a law so people actually ARE safer. I mean its very easy to get away from the "HYSTERICAL" details, but we are talking about serious injuries to people. I mean if your child got attacked by a dog, I think you might find some inconveniences to dog owners would have been worth the effort. FINALLY, for the record....I do not hate dogs. That is a cheap shot. I like dogs and have had some great ones, but I just happen to like people also and think they have an ABSOLUTE right to be free of dog attacks outside their home.
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