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It is foolish to argue whether it is the "owner" or the "breed" - in cases like these it is clearly BOTH!
============================= 3rd STRIKE Thursday, January 22, 2009 By MICHAELANGELO CONTE JOURNAL STAFF WRITER Dog owner may face charges Jersey City Animal Control yesterday seized two Bullmastiffs involved in incidents that have sent at least three people to hospitals. Advertisement Meanwhile, the dogs' Downtown owner insists the pooches are gentle. Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said yesterday his office is looking into the possibility of pressing criminal charges against the dogs' owner, Susan Kolb of Dudley Street. "This is a case where it appears a reasonable person should have known that the dogs had a vicious propensity," DeFazio said. "This could be an aggravated assault based on reckless conduct." James Joyce, 24, said he needed six stitches after being attacked on Jan. 9 by the dogs at Warren and Morris streets. "I was horrified," Joyce said. "I felt it (one dog) was trying to get my neck and the other dog bit me." By the time he got to work, Joyce said, "My groin had blood on it, my face had blood on it from touching it, I had blood all over my pants." Kolb said Joyce is exaggerating. The owner said she was walking Jumba and Imani, her male and female dogs, when Joyce walked up to the dogs with open arms. They are trained to jump up and give a kiss when approached that way, she said. "They jumped up and he got upset and I grabbed the dogs and he moved away," Kolb said in an interview with the Journal. "I said 'Are you OK?' and he said 'I'm fine.' There were no marks or stains or blood on him." In another incident, on Sept. 21 at the park at Greene and Essex streets, police said the two dogs, reportedly unleashed, knocked down a woman in her 60s and the 6-month-old child she was carrying. Advertisement Both were taken to the Jersey City Medical Center. The baby suffered scrapes to her face, and the woman to her knee, elbow and hip, reports said. Kolb's version of the event differed. "I thought the park was empty and I turned to close the door and there was a tiny little Chinese woman with a big baby," Kolb said in her defense. "She became frightened. She began jumping up and down and she dropped the baby. The dogs never touched her." Jonathan L. Rodriguez, 24, of Brunswick Street, was injured in yet another incident on Monday at 7 a.m., at Washington Street and Christopher Columbus Drive. Rodriguez said Kolb unleashed the dogs and they ran across the street and tore into his arm. A witness drove his car at the dogs to try and scare them off and construction workers from a nearby work site banged their helmets on the ground to distract the dogs, reports said. Rodriguez finally broke free and ran into a nearby building lobby and from there was rushed to the Jersey City Medical Center, reports said. Kolb was issued two summonses for having the dogs off their leashes. Kolb said about the incident yesterday that there were a lot of snow plows on the streets that day, which might have put the dogs on edge. "All of a sudden this guy appears and Jumba latched on, they got off the leash," Kolb said. "He wasn't attacking him. "I'm such a kind person, I try to be a good citizen," Kolb added. "But if my dog was vicious, it would have bitten right through his arm." DeFazio asks that anyone who may have been attacked by these dogs to call his office at (201) 795-6959.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 14:38
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Yes, like I stated earlier, this woman was way over-matched by these dogs. It's probably the end for them.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 14:32
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This woman has got to be a sociopath!!! Her lies and disreguard for others makes me sick. She should be prosecuted to the fullest extent. Hopefully she will do us all a favor and move far away from Jersey City..piece of trash!
Posted on: 2009/1/22 14:30
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I cannot believe this lady said her dogs did not attack and are not vicious. The wounds are very serious and if he had not had a coat on he probably would have lost his arm.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 14:06
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Fyi-The story is front page jersey journal this morning. http://www.nj.com/news/jjournal/jerse ... 32609228147250.xml&coll=3
I think it is laughable that she says the dogs are trained to do anything, much less give a kiss when someone walks up to them. She is a liar liar liar. These dogs are fully untrained, and the male owner admitted as much months ago. Her quote is a complete fabrication: "They jumped up and he got upset and I grabbed the dogs and he moved away," Kolb said in an interview with the Journal. "I said 'Are you OK?' and he said 'I'm fine.' There were no marks or stains or blood on him." In reality, he ran into portside immediately to get away from them and asked the doorman for assistance. No way he said he was "fine".
Posted on: 2009/1/22 13:55
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Picked up my free copy to read for Friday, last night!
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Posted on: 2009/1/22 13:41
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I wasn't bitching about anything person. The comment was an inference into the living environment those dogs were in.
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Posted on: 2009/1/22 6:42
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Phil, Thank you for clarifying your reply. I think all of us, the dog owners and non dog owners who are responsible citizens (for the most part) and decent to our neighbors (for the most part) won't disagree with you that: any victim who has suffered real emotional and/or physical damage should never go uncompensated. (side note) thanks for fixing that "other thing" that I haven't a clue what Vigilante is speaking of. Now, I must get some sleep if plan on living till I'm 101.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 5:26
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shhhhh, you didn't see that.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:43
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JennyMayla wrote: Ok. I'm cool with that. As are my battery of attorneys. And my good karma. See you at the dog park! (I actually think that my homeowners insurance covers it as long as it happens in my home. Fingers crossed.) I think homeowners covers you even if it is off your property in many cases. Anyway, I apologize for saying you were irresponsible personally. You probably are a highly responsible person, my point was to say we should make insurance mandatory and it is irresponsible for our society to allow dog bite victims to go uncompensated.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:42
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and then deep-frying them Pinky........!
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:41
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I'm sure there will be dog bites long after I'm 101 and finally decide to die, if it has teeth, it can bite. This situation was also a unique one, a non qualified person owned these dogs for the purpose of breeding and making profit from it. This is not a typical situation of the average dog owner. http://jumbaboerboels.com/home now fix my typo in your quote....TIA
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:35
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r_pinkowitz wrote: because a person does not have dog insurance in no way makes them irresponsible....I feel really bad for the person attacked, feel the owner of those dogs is a real shit-head breeding them in her apartment....The end! Sorry, I wasn't being clear. It makes us irresponsible as a society for not requiring people to have insurance for dogs. Im not saying Jennymayls is irresponsible, just using that as an example of why we should make dog insurance mandatory. Also, it is the end, as you say, until someone else is bitten by a dog.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:25
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Chill Phil...First of all...because a person does not have dog insurance in no way makes them irresponsible. I have it because I was required by the condo where I once lived and it's become a habit. I am an owner of an Akita and made this choice, I was asked when getting the insurance for my home if I owned a dog and I did so, I included her. I don't know if every insurance company asks that question and that's why I stated "correct me if I'm wrong" in my original post. I work in a place that requires me to deal with insurance companies daily and I know how they will try to deny a claim....I cross my T's and dot my I's... that's me and my choice. In no way do I feel if someone doesn't do as I do ..they are irresponsible and in no way is my post on insurance siding with you..... I have no opinions that I care to share on your postings.....just not my thingie to get into a pissing match on this topic. I feel really bad for the person attacked, feel the owner of those dogs is a real $hit-head breeding them in her apartment....The end!
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:18
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Assumption that jennymayla is asset-less fail.
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I called _your_ claim that all libertarians "talk the talk, but don't walk the walk" a broad and unsubstantiated claim. You pointed to the website in your sig (which apparently isn't even yours) as substantiation of this claim but it has nothing backing this up. E.g. "libertarian" appears nowhere in a search of the web site.
Your refusal to address a claim that you made and attempts to disparage my reading skills and lack of obsession with Schundler and his critics is silly and sad. Quote:
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Ok. I'm cool with that. As are my battery of attorneys. And my good karma. See you at the dog park! (I actually think that my homeowners insurance covers it as long as it happens in my home. Fingers crossed.)
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:05
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JennyMayal wrote: Guess what? MY DOG BITES! She bit me twice in the almost eight years I have had her. Both times were specific incidents when she felt threatened and freaked out. She's a shelter girl and she has some issues. But she's gorgeous so she can deal with her personality disorder -- on a leash, with my supervision. I don't let her run around small people and I warn all people (casually so as not to create fear) when they meet her for the first time. That's my responsibility and that's the deal she and I made when I got her. 99% of the time she is the greatest dog in the world, but that 1% is something I take very seriously. The issue is not dogs biting as much as it is that the owners bear great responsibility for their pets. Oh, kids bite too. Adults even bite. Go figure. You write this, but don't have insurance? This is precisely why it should be mandatory for dog owners to have insurance. You have a dog you know bites people, then say you " owners bear great responsibility for their pets." Well, in the unfortunate and unlikely event your dog bites someone, that person will be SOL. They will have steep medical bills, pain and suffering, possible scarring and you probably have no way to compensate them. That is not taking responsibility for your pet, Im sorry.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 4:02
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Nope. And I'm not worried about it. Thanks though!
Posted on: 2009/1/22 3:57
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HudsonHorizones wrote: Hypocritical know-it-all fail. I love it when people put "fail" at the end of a sentence and think that makes it a solid point. I used the phrase, "facts are stubborn things" because I presented a series of facts, which people were disputing, but the facts remain the same, therefore, those facts are stubborn. Using that phrase does not mean you must use hard facts in every sentence you use. My reference to dogs "representing probably half the population of Jersey City" was not presented as a fact. I used the word "probably" for a reason. Of all the things I wrote, if that is what you can come up with, as a "fail", I will take that as a compliment. Understanding of the expression "facts are stubborn things" fail. Try again. Quote: JannyMayla wrote: MY DOG BITES! .... The issue is not dogs biting as much as it is that the owners bear great responsibility for their pets. Jenny, do you have insurance in case your dog bites someone?
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Yeah, yeah, we all understand the implications of her actions but I would bet almost anything she was freaking out not being "selfish". The Flight crews training kicked in but this passenger never trained for this. I would with-hold judgement when you have no idea how you would react. Several of the passengers didn't even realize they had landed in the river at first.
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Ummm, thanks kind stranger for the pm, that's what I get for posting while watching A.I. : ) statistics not statics
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Of course it is. I'm sure it was extremely scary situation for everyone, but either one of these people (especially the second lady) could have caused the loss of many lives. Opening the rear door that was under water would make the plane sink very quickly and would more than likely kill a good number of people by drowning -- even those that were already outside of the plane. When you're on a plane you absolutely listen to the crew at all times. I am judging them right now, and I think they're selfish idiots.
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It's part of our job. We have to use our best judgement when handing a particular animal. I find cat scratches to be a more frequent nuissance but anything is possible.
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Hmmmm, if "facts are stubborn things", what would you call completely off-base, fact-free generalizations? Hypocritical know-it-all fail.
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I don't understand everyone's problem with Comcast. I have never had any service interruption, when I have called to add services or ask a question I'm rarely on hold more than 5 minutes. Not to mention that while not Fios speeds, they are pretty damned fast:
That being said, I will switch to whatever is faster. I talked to someone at Comcast last week who said they will be rolling out 50/50Mbs within a year and a half in Jersey City. That will compete nicely with Fios.
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Ludo Wrote: Lets say you get your wish and dog owners have to be licensed and pay big bucks to do so. How do you plan on enforcing this law, when the city doesn't enforce the law currently on the books about licensing dogs until there is an incident or another law is broken? And you keep talking about cars being a necessary evil that is highly regulated, but there are plenty of people driving around without insurance or in some cases even a license. How would your law be any different? Honestly, I think any law would come about through a discussion between dog owners, non dog-owners, law enforcement, etc. I can't possibly know enough to write the law for you right now. But nothing is more annoying to me than "Group-Think", which is what happens on this board with the dog owners calling anyone who is concerned about dog bites "hysterical". Or suggest that you must hate dogs if you think something should be done to limit dog bites. It would be stupid for me to ask why these dog owners hate children, the most common victims of dog bites, but its the same silly implication? Its a problem, people are victims and the problem deserves to be addressed. The knee-jerk reaction from dog owners is that any suggestion of a problem or better regulation is heresy and anti-dog sentiments need to be crushed. But I can offer my personal suggestion. First, the big bucks people pay for licenses would be used to pay enforcement officers to patrol and respond to complaints. Perhaps there could be a hotline to report owners who leave dog shit on sidewalks, or whose dogs act threatening. etc. Now if your irresponsible dog owners is caught leaving shit on the sidewalk, well then an investigation might reveal the dog owner doesn't have a license. Im open to other ideas that anyone might have to improve dog-human relations, but with dogs representing probably half the population of Jersey City, this will be a recurring problem and deserves attention.
Posted on: 2009/1/22 2:09
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