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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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jennymayla:

My mistake for misunderstanding.

I do not have any facts but I do find it fishy that the government didn't want residents to know about a simple "photo-op".

I thought I answered question 2. Did it happen under Bush? And it never would have either. Don't know how much more detail can be given here.

I think reveiling the memo's was a mistake but that's another topic.

Jeebus:

I agree in a way. But also, I don't think that local officials should have listened. I think citizens should have been aware. What is the point of police knowing? I think this is a time when judgement has to come into play. What did they think people in buildings were gonna do? Clap for Air Force One as it flys at eye level? Either way, I think some punishment should be given. I wonder if NYC Mayor will do anything.

wibbit:

Really no point in posting that comment.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:38
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Re: Boycott A-1 Deli
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I'm not a racist, but I am discriminating.

Best subs are at Marrow Deli on Jersey Ave near C.Columbus.

Even if you disagree, you're only out ~$4 for the sandwich.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:33
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Director Louis Caldera needs to be informed about the wonders of Photoshop if the FAA needed a pretty picture for some brochures, power point presentations, and websites.

More cost effective and less traumatic.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:32
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Quote:

stepanstas wrote:
jennymayla:

This could not and has not happened to "Bush folks". I don't buy for a min that Obama did not know about this. In a way, it's his plane, if someone took your car, don't you want to know what they are doing with it?

As far a "truth", the truth his Obama wants to show off possible mistakes of other people and administrations but wont recognize his own. Apparently, the government officials in NY (state level) were told and so were local police (which might be why someone here mentioned that a police officer knew right away). But the police was told not to say a word to the public about this until after it happens. Genius. Whatever happened to transparent government?

"but how does this reflect so poorly on the current administration in a way that could not have just as easily happened with the Bush folks?" Quit trying to make this seem like an event that our government knew nothing about. It could not have just as easily happened. It's not like the President and the rest of the White House are on different teams. If this was a non-government operation, then it could have just as easily happened, but this was all government run.

I_heart_JC:

well, let me ask you this. Has it happened under President Bush?


I seriously doubt the President of the United States looks out his window and wonders where the two planes are, who has the keys and what time they will be back.

It was a stupid judgment call on someones part that sent people in two states into a panic.

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Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:25
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Re: Which of the mayor candidates have a plan to deal with the NJ property tax?
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i agree, that sounds like a bunch of bs. So no candidate really has an actual plan to deal with the high property taxes?

High property tax and crime are the two biggest problems in jersey city that directly impact everyone who lives here i think.

Oh well...

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:17
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Re: Boycott A-1 Deli
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why the fk is everyone calling each other racist on this forum now. Is that the latest fad?

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:12
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Quote:

stepanstas wrote:

I think the Obama admin is really stupid for this. I guarantee this would never have happened under President Bush.



You are right, under the bush administration this never happened. Instead the planes actually hit the buildings...

Now go play in traffic.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:11
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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So all we will get after this is a lame apology. At the least the person who told the local officials to not pass on the information about this ridiculous stunt should be fired. If a private company had done the same thing they would be prosecuted under the NJ "terrorist threat" law. Yet people accept things from people in the government (with nothing except someone claiming to accept "full responsibility"; but, as always, paying no price for what they did) that would result in criminal prosecution if the very same thing had been done by non-government people. Sad.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 3:10
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Re: ANIMAL CONTROL dumps CATs/KiTTENS in Lincoln Park
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FGJCNJ1970 wrote:
I think everyone should be FIRED.

JC's Animal Control and all these guys are just incompetent.

You know... in WW2... German Officers said they "Were just following orders".

They got hanged in the gallows... following orders was NO EXCUSE.

And now OUR OWN public officials are saying they are just following orders....

Established in the 1970's? Come on.

Please...

TIME TO FIRE THESE FOLKS....

No more following blind, STUPID and out dated orders

FG



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Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:51
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Quote:

stepanstas wrote:
jennymayla:

... Quit trying to make this seem like an event that our government knew nothing about. It could not have just as easily happened. It's not like the President and the rest of the White House are on different teams. If this was a non-government operation, then it could have just as easily happened, but this was all government run.


I didn't say it was an event that the government knew nothing about. I asked you how you are so sure it is some sort of cover up and what "the truth" you speak of actually is. Don't assume you know what my intent is in asking. I am genuinely curious because I think what happened today is completely crazy and you seemed to have a pretty strong point of view about it, which I was hoping was based on some facts I had yet to read elsewhere.

I also asked how you are so certain that nothing like this could ever have happened under the previous administration (like, say, until-recently otherwise secret torture policies, for example).

Unfortunately, you couldn't accurately answer either of the questions, which is enough of an answer in and of itself.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:48
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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jennymayla:

This could not and has not happened to "Bush folks". I don't buy for a min that Obama did not know about this. In a way, it's his plane, if someone took your car, don't you want to know what they are doing with it?

As far a "truth", the truth his Obama wants to show off possible mistakes of other people and administrations but wont recognize his own. Apparently, the government officials in NY (state level) were told and so were local police (which might be why someone here mentioned that a police officer knew right away). But the police was told not to say a word to the public about this until after it happens. Genius. Whatever happened to transparent government?

"but how does this reflect so poorly on the current administration in a way that could not have just as easily happened with the Bush folks?" Quit trying to make this seem like an event that our government knew nothing about. It could not have just as easily happened. It's not like the President and the rest of the White House are on different teams. If this was a non-government operation, then it could have just as easily happened, but this was all government run.

I_heart_JC:

well, let me ask you this. Has it happened under President Bush?

Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:34
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Re: ANIMAL CONTROL dumps CATs/KiTTENS in Lincoln Park
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I think everyone should be FIRED.

JC's Animal Control and all these guys are just incompetent.

You know... in WW2... German Officers said they "Were just following orders".

They got hanged in the gallows... following orders was NO EXCUSE.

And now OUR OWN public officials are saying they are just following orders....

Established in the 1970's? Come on.

Please...

TIME TO FIRE THESE FOLKS....

No more following blind, STUPID and out dated orders

FG

Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:32
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Re: ANIMAL CONTROL dumps CATs/KiTTENS in Lincoln Park
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Joe Frank should be ashamed of himself. SHAME SHAME SHAME on you, Joe Frank.

Glad the investigation revealed the truth. Pathetic as it is.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:23
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Re: ANIMAL CONTROL dumps CATs/KiTTENS in Lincoln Park
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bump - it's on right now

Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:20
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Re: Recommendation For Recharging Window AC
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Check Craigslist. There are tons of A/C units for less than $100. I sold two just in the past week.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 2:06
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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I too would love to know how you can "guarantee this would never have happened under President Bush."

please, enlighten us.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 1:46
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Quote:

stepanstas wrote:
Excuse me for being suspicious but I don't buy this for one min.

My office building knew nothing about this and everyone didn't know what was going on. Nobody in the building knew this was scheduled and people began to evacuate on their own just to be safe. (This is why you saw so many people on Grove St.)

I think the Obama admin is really stupid for this. I guarantee this would never have happened under President Bush. Even if some people were notified, the proper people were not and if the Port Authority does not know, that is REALLY, REALLY BAD. Just goes to show what the truth is.

And even if it was "scheduled" and was a "photo-op" what idiot came up with an idea like that? Show Air Force One and a military plane over JC right before it crashes and destroys the city and kills people? I don't care how good of a pilot you are, flying that close to buildings should never happen.


What is "the truth"? What are you basing this on? This was a huge mistake and a major misstep for sure, but how does this reflect so poorly on the current administration in a way that could not have just as easily happened with the Bush folks?

I want to understand this, so please explain -- and no political rhetoric or baloney from the peanut gallery please.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 1:36
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Re: Tremors or ground shaking
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Most likely what just happened was a "waffling" of the tectonic plate which ends in the area of the Meadowlands out by Route 3. For eons this remnant of a major glacial movement that was born from a primordial swamp, the largest home for mastodons and the like in the world has bumped about due to a "gassing" effect still happening today. It's kind of like your stomach settling after a big meal. Nothing to worry about but expect more in the future.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 1:13
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Quote:

stepanstas wrote:
I think the Obama admin is really stupid for this. I guarantee this would never have happened under President Bush.


You're right. This has been another shining example of how the current administration just scoffs at our terrorism concerns.

Posted on: 2009/4/28 1:13
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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I had no doubt that the plane was looking for me. It circled several times obviously trying to find me and crash into me. It was terrible. Me. Me. Me.......

Posted on: 2009/4/28 1:02
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Re: Tremors or ground shaking
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Tremors happen around here - although rare.

I remember this one in 2001
http://www.seismo-watch.com/EQS/AB/20 ... 7.NY2.6/011027.NY2.6.html

It sounded more like a big bomb though (and it was right after 9/11 so it freeked me out at the time badly)

Posted on: 2009/4/27 23:51
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Re: Low flying Jet spotted over Jersey City confirmed as Air Force One
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Excuse me for being suspicious but I don't buy this for one min.

My office building knew nothing about this and everyone didn't know what was going on. Nobody in the building knew this was scheduled and people began to evacuate on their own just to be safe. (This is why you saw so many people on Grove St.)

I think the Obama admin is really stupid for this. I guarantee this would never have happened under President Bush. Even if some people were notified, the proper people were not and if the Port Authority does not know, that is REALLY, REALLY BAD. Just goes to show what the truth is.

And even if it was "scheduled" and was a "photo-op" what idiot came up with an idea like that? Show Air Force One and a military plane over JC right before it crashes and destroys the city and kills people? I don't care how good of a pilot you are, flying that close to buildings should never happen.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 23:34
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Re: Forget Taqueria!
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Jesus, this place sounds like it sucks.


totally sucks

always makes me sick

staff doesn't bow down to everyone

they don't serve burritos like Bubby's

no guac

and there are "better" tacos in Union City, which I can also walk to from various points in Downtown JC.

don't go


Man, if you got stock in the place I'd sell.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 23:22
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Re: Recommendation For Recharging Window AC
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I'll sell you a new one, I bought it last year before I moved to JC but the new place has central air. I used it for about a month last summer.
It's a Friedrich 7,800 BTU with remote. It lists for $350 but is on sale for $300 I would sell it for $200.

http://www.pcrichard.com/catalog/prod ... d=5000&subCategoryId=5040
PM me if interested

Posted on: 2009/4/27 22:59
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Re: Forget Taqueria!
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"I was merely commenting that their schtick is getting old to me"

you were either destined to love it or hate it, it would seem.

"I'll let Abe and others worship at the altar of Tacqueria"

hiyo. I worship at the alter of value for dollar and quality product... service takes a back seat within reason, not that I have a problem with the service at this particular spot.

"And on a side note: amusing != hilarious."

really?

amusing: pleasantly entertaining or diverting:
hilarious: arousing great merriment; extremely funny

in any case, I think this summed it up perfectly:

"It's a similar concept to fast food. Walk up to the counter, order food, sit down and wait for it"

thanks for the diversion folks!

Posted on: 2009/4/27 22:29
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Re: Why is there a new flight path today - low commercial planes towards EWR
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jc_insomniac wrote:
I know this is *so* seven hours ago, but I found this video of the folks who were evacuated from the office buildings at Exchange Place:

http://www.drawandquarter.com/low-fly ... t-easily-agitated-public/


This gets me so angry, seeing these folks running when the plane was coming in their direction...

STUPID, STUPID, STUPID move on our governments part to do this. How can they be so insensitive and so STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!

ps..thanks for posting the video, jc_i

Posted on: 2009/4/27 21:40
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Why did Corzine withhold DEP report?
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Why did Corzine withhold DEP report?
April 23, 2009 ? 6:55 am
By Bob Ingle

http://blogs.app.com/politicspatrol/2009/04/23/3631/

Lisa Jackson
A new NJ Department of Environmental Protection report says our state?s standards are more than 200 times laxer for chromium in the soil than needed to protect health. Chromium in soil is associated with cancer. But hold your cheers for the DEP. The report was finished April 8. The Washington-based Public Employees for Environmental Protection said ?The new risk assessment came to light because of a state public records request filed by Zoe Kelman, a former NJDEP chemical engineer, who resigned in disgust after her warnings about chromium migrating off completed sites and likely coming into direct contact with residents and workers were ignored.? It continues: ?Last week, NJDEP closed public comment on a controversial chromium cleanup settlement for Jersey City sites owned by PPG Industries. This new risk assessment was completed on April 8th but was not given to the community and was released to Ms. Kelman after the April 15th comment deadline passed.?

PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch, ?This assessment validates the alarms sounded by Zoe Kelman. Yet, despite repeated wake-up calls on chromium dangers, New Jersey continues on snooze control.?

Kelman said she was removed from chromium-related issues and denied meaningful work by then-DEP Commissioner Lisa Jackson after she voiced concerns. Jackson now heads the federal EPA.

New Jersey sites are contaminated because of old industrial operations. Hexavalent chromium is the substance against which Erin Brockovich campaigned in California.

In 2003, former Sen. Bob Torricelli was appointed by federal Judge Dennis M. Cavanaugh in Newark to oversee an environmental cleanup project in Jersey City. Torricelli is paid by Honeywell International to clean up a 34-acre site contaminated by chromium. The judge?s order also authorizes Torricelli to hire professional and technical personnel who also will be paid by Honeywell. The site was contaminated by a chemical plant that pumped waste into wetlands along the Hackensack River, which Honeywell must also clean.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 21:40
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Re: Forget Taqueria!
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Quote:

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it becomes hilarious when people take offense and react to it on an internerd message board

their menu notes are amusing, def unexpected and got a laugh out of it the first time I went there. after that, it's just fun to see who reacts and who doesn't (it's a "tell", you know?)


Sorry Abe, but I wouldn't call my comments "taking offense" at their smugness. They're entitled to behave any way they like, I was merely commenting that their schtick is getting old to me (and it would appear others as well).

AlanWright hit the nail on the head with his response. But something tells me they aren't running that shop to maximize profits. Like I said, live and let live, they can do whatever they want.

I'll let Abe and others worship at the altar of Tacqueria, the rest of us will spend money at places where our business is appreciated - I can tell from his responses (and i'm guessing from Tacqueria itself) that our business won't be missed! Everyone wins...


And on a side note: amusing != hilarious.

Posted on: 2009/4/27 21:31
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Re: Forget Taqueria!
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All this talk of Taqueria had me fiending for a fish taco this afternoon! Too bad they were closed today. Boo!

Posted on: 2009/4/27 21:24
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Re: Embankment - Where do the candidates stand?
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OOps I meant this comment for g_Elkind's post.
C'mon,where do the council people stand????????

"Silence told me secretly, everything"


I was being polite and thought that g_elkinds post would send a wake up call. Sadly, they have done NOTHING!

I received 4 emails from the Fulop Camp asking me to support 5 school board candidates and not one email urging us to send in comments "Action Alert Thread" to The federal Surface Transportation Board.

Councilman Fulop, your silence is deafening! Prove me wrong and send out this mass email to everyone of your email distribution list just like you did for those 5 school board candidates!

Posted on: 2009/4/27 21:22
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